Re: Survey :follow up note!

[Guest guest]

,

One more thought that might prove to be VERY significant. If anyone out

there has been paying attention to the FDA the last few years they would

know that at the direction of the AMA, the FDA has been trying to pass a law

that would make all nutritional and herbal supplements require a RX in order

to be obtained. It would be pre-emptive and timely to obtain prescription

writing status here in oregon for those of us docs that dispense and

recommend nutritinal and herbal supplements. Any thoughts on this?

Knecht, DC

>From: " Knecht " <allenknecht@...>

>Reply-allen@...

>drmfreeman@...

>CC:

>Subject: Re: Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

>privileges for DCs

>Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:32:25 -0700

>

>,

>

>I think it would be absolutely fantastic if we could obtain limited

>prescription writing priviledges. What most docs may not realize is that

>not only would we be able to prescribe needed meds like muscle relaxers and

>adequate pain relief meds to help us adjust those acute joint injuries, but

>those of us who practice broad scope have many patients who would benefit

>from intravenous vitamin therapy which can only be accessed through an MD

>or

>ND at this time. Please lobby for this. You have my full support.

>

> Knecht, DC

>

>

> >From: " Dr. Freeman " <drmfreeman@...>

> >Reply- " Dr. Freeman " <drmfreeman@...>

> > " OregonDCs " < >

> >Subject: Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

> >privileges for DCs

> >Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:53:30 -0700

> >

> >Docs,

> >I have a serious question I would like to pose to you all. How many of

>you

> >would take advantage of an educational program that eventually allowed

>for

> >limited prescription rights for Oregon licentiates? Now I know that many

> >docs will say that the reason that you got into chiropractic is because

>you

> >wanted a non-medicinal approach to healthcare, and I agree

>wholeheartedly.

> >On the other hand, there are occasional times when I can see that it

>would

> >be of a great advantage for a DC to be able to write a prescription for a

> >drug that is not available over the counter.

> >The opthalmologists did a nice job of getting legislation passed that

> >allowed them to set up this kind of a program, and I think it is now

> >feasible that a similar program could be accomplished for the DCs, as

>long

> >as there is an adequate educational program in place.

> >I have no desire to start a philosophical debate (although if you think

>it

> >is a bad idea to even ask this question by all means write back) but am

> >just interested in canvassing opinion at this point in time. My personal

> >belief is that chiropractic can stay intact philosophically while

> >recognizing the need for occasional use of medication. Perhaps this is

>too

> >much of an idealized model, perhaps not.

> >If there is interest of a wide scale then we can go to the next step of

> >investigation, something that I am willing to do.

> >

> > D Freeman

> >Mailing address: 2480 Liberty Street NE, Suite 180

> >Salem, Oregon 97303

> >ph 503 763-3528

> >fax 503 763-3530

> >cell 503 871-0715

>

>

>

>

> Knecht DC

>Namaste Chiropractic

>1809 NW

>Portland, OR 97209

>503-226-8010

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Government controls working in our favor? The FDA? The same organization who

took 9 years to acknowledge that folic acid prevents neural tube defects

(spina bifida) because the woman has to be non-deficient (tanks topped off)

when she becomes pregnant suggesting that sexually active, child bearing age

women should take vitamins without any symptoms?

I don't want to be cynical about our government but can you use the

words " Medicare " and " efficient " in the same sentence? Hah! I knew you

couldn't!

Nothin' but love for ya,

--

Dr. Abrahamson

> From: " Knecht " <allenknecht@...>

> Reply-allen@...

> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:13:18 -0700

> allen@..., drmfreeman@...

> Cc:

> Subject: Re: Survey :follow up note!

>

> ,

>

> One more thought that might prove to be VERY significant. If anyone out

> there has been paying attention to the FDA the last few years they would

> know that at the direction of the AMA, the FDA has been trying to pass a law

> that would make all nutritional and herbal supplements require a RX in order

> to be obtained. It would be pre-emptive and timely to obtain prescription

> writing status here in oregon for those of us docs that dispense and

> recommend nutritinal and herbal supplements. Any thoughts on this?

>

> Knecht, DC

>

>

>> From: " Knecht " <allenknecht@...>

>> Reply-allen@...

>> drmfreeman@...

>> CC:

>> Subject: Re: Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

>> privileges for DCs

>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:32:25 -0700

>>

>> ,

>>

>> I think it would be absolutely fantastic if we could obtain limited

>> prescription writing priviledges. What most docs may not realize is that

>> not only would we be able to prescribe needed meds like muscle relaxers and

>> adequate pain relief meds to help us adjust those acute joint injuries, but

>> those of us who practice broad scope have many patients who would benefit

>> from intravenous vitamin therapy which can only be accessed through an MD

>> or

>> ND at this time. Please lobby for this. You have my full support.

>>

>> Knecht, DC

>>

>>

>>> From: " Dr. Freeman " <drmfreeman@...>

>>> Reply- " Dr. Freeman " <drmfreeman@...>

>>> " OregonDCs " < >

>>> Subject: Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

>>> privileges for DCs

>>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:53:30 -0700

>>>

>>> Docs,

>>> I have a serious question I would like to pose to you all. How many of

>> you

>>> would take advantage of an educational program that eventually allowed

>> for

>>> limited prescription rights for Oregon licentiates? Now I know that many

>>> docs will say that the reason that you got into chiropractic is because

>> you

>>> wanted a non-medicinal approach to healthcare, and I agree

>> wholeheartedly.

>>> On the other hand, there are occasional times when I can see that it

>> would

>>> be of a great advantage for a DC to be able to write a prescription for a

>>> drug that is not available over the counter.

>>> The opthalmologists did a nice job of getting legislation passed that

>>> allowed them to set up this kind of a program, and I think it is now

>>> feasible that a similar program could be accomplished for the DCs, as

>> long

>>> as there is an adequate educational program in place.

>>> I have no desire to start a philosophical debate (although if you think

>> it

>>> is a bad idea to even ask this question by all means write back) but am

>>> just interested in canvassing opinion at this point in time. My personal

>>> belief is that chiropractic can stay intact philosophically while

>>> recognizing the need for occasional use of medication. Perhaps this is

>> too

>>> much of an idealized model, perhaps not.

>>> If there is interest of a wide scale then we can go to the next step of

>>> investigation, something that I am willing to do.

>>>

>>> D Freeman

>>> Mailing address: 2480 Liberty Street NE, Suite 180

>>> Salem, Oregon 97303

>>> ph 503 763-3528

>>> fax 503 763-3530

>>> cell 503 871-0715

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Knecht DC

>> Namaste Chiropractic

>> 1809 NW

>> Portland, OR 97209

>> 503-226-8010

>>

>>

>> _________________________________________________________________

>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

>>

>

>

>

>

> Knecht DC

> Namaste Chiropractic

> 1809 NW

> Portland, OR 97209

> 503-226-8010

>

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[Guest guest]

hey scott,

i think you misunderstood my post. it is my interpretation that the AMA via

the FDA is trying to take away our ability to recommend and dispense

nutritional supplementation by making them prescription only. i said

nothing about the government being efficient! if we can obtain limited

prescription writing priviledges, then it won't matter whether the AMA

succeeds or not, assuming that our priviledge includes dispensing

nutritional supplements.

allen

>From: Abrahamson <drscott@...>

><allen@...>, <drmfreeman@...>

>CC: < >

>Subject: Re: Survey :follow up note!

>Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:52:40 -0700

>

>Government controls working in our favor? The FDA? The same organization

>who

>took 9 years to acknowledge that folic acid prevents neural tube defects

>(spina bifida) because the woman has to be non-deficient (tanks topped off)

>when she becomes pregnant suggesting that sexually active, child bearing

>age

>women should take vitamins without any symptoms?

>I don't want to be cynical about our government but can you use the

>words " Medicare " and " efficient " in the same sentence? Hah! I knew you

>couldn't!

>Nothin' but love for ya,

>

>--

>Dr. Abrahamson

>

> > From: " Knecht " <allenknecht@...>

> > Reply-allen@...

> > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:13:18 -0700

> > allen@..., drmfreeman@...

> > Cc:

> > Subject: Re: Survey :follow up note!

> >

> > ,

> >

> > One more thought that might prove to be VERY significant. If anyone out

> > there has been paying attention to the FDA the last few years they would

> > know that at the direction of the AMA, the FDA has been trying to pass a

>law

> > that would make all nutritional and herbal supplements require a RX in

>order

> > to be obtained. It would be pre-emptive and timely to obtain

>prescription

> > writing status here in oregon for those of us docs that dispense and

> > recommend nutritinal and herbal supplements. Any thoughts on this?

> >

> > Knecht, DC

> >

> >

> >> From: " Knecht " <allenknecht@...>

> >> Reply-allen@...

> >> drmfreeman@...

> >> CC:

> >> Subject: Re: Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

> >> privileges for DCs

> >> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:32:25 -0700

> >>

> >> ,

> >>

> >> I think it would be absolutely fantastic if we could obtain limited

> >> prescription writing priviledges. What most docs may not realize is

>that

> >> not only would we be able to prescribe needed meds like muscle relaxers

>and

> >> adequate pain relief meds to help us adjust those acute joint injuries,

>but

> >> those of us who practice broad scope have many patients who would

>benefit

> >> from intravenous vitamin therapy which can only be accessed through an

>MD

> >> or

> >> ND at this time. Please lobby for this. You have my full support.

> >>

> >> Knecht, DC

> >>

> >>

> >>> From: " Dr. Freeman " <drmfreeman@...>

> >>> Reply- " Dr. Freeman " <drmfreeman@...>

> >>> " OregonDCs " < >

> >>> Subject: Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

> >>> privileges for DCs

> >>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:53:30 -0700

> >>>

> >>> Docs,

> >>> I have a serious question I would like to pose to you all. How many of

> >> you

> >>> would take advantage of an educational program that eventually allowed

> >> for

> >>> limited prescription rights for Oregon licentiates? Now I know that

>many

> >>> docs will say that the reason that you got into chiropractic is

>because

> >> you

> >>> wanted a non-medicinal approach to healthcare, and I agree

> >> wholeheartedly.

> >>> On the other hand, there are occasional times when I can see that it

> >> would

> >>> be of a great advantage for a DC to be able to write a prescription

>for a

> >>> drug that is not available over the counter.

> >>> The opthalmologists did a nice job of getting legislation passed that

> >>> allowed them to set up this kind of a program, and I think it is now

> >>> feasible that a similar program could be accomplished for the DCs, as

> >> long

> >>> as there is an adequate educational program in place.

> >>> I have no desire to start a philosophical debate (although if you

>think

> >> it

> >>> is a bad idea to even ask this question by all means write back) but

>am

> >>> just interested in canvassing opinion at this point in time. My

>personal

> >>> belief is that chiropractic can stay intact philosophically while

> >>> recognizing the need for occasional use of medication. Perhaps this is

> >> too

> >>> much of an idealized model, perhaps not.

> >>> If there is interest of a wide scale then we can go to the next step

>of

> >>> investigation, something that I am willing to do.

> >>>

> >>> D Freeman

> >>> Mailing address: 2480 Liberty Street NE, Suite 180

> >>> Salem, Oregon 97303

> >>> ph 503 763-3528

> >>> fax 503 763-3530

> >>> cell 503 871-0715

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Knecht DC

> >> Namaste Chiropractic

> >> 1809 NW

> >> Portland, OR 97209

> >> 503-226-8010

> >>

> >>

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> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Now is the time to get RX privileges for all OTC and nutritional supplements

written into our law as a legend, or list like the naturopaths have done.

Someday they will yank the ability to get iron, ephedra, etc as OTC drugs

and then we will still have the privilege to write script for the same

because our law will not be tied to the same one threat governs health food

stores. This would safeguard our profession and add to our ability to

broaden our scope.

Willard

Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

> >privileges for DCs

> >Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:53:30 -0700

> >

> >Docs,

> >I have a serious question I would like to pose to you all. How many of

>you

> >would take advantage of an educational program that eventually allowed

>for

> >limited prescription rights for Oregon licentiates? Now I know that many

> >docs will say that the reason that you got into chiropractic is because

>you

> >wanted a non-medicinal approach to healthcare, and I agree

>wholeheartedly.

> >On the other hand, there are occasional times when I can see that it

>would

> >be of a great advantage for a DC to be able to write a prescription for a

> >drug that is not available over the counter.

> >The opthalmologists did a nice job of getting legislation passed that

> >allowed them to set up this kind of a program, and I think it is now

> >feasible that a similar program could be accomplished for the DCs, as

>long

> >as there is an adequate educational program in place.

> >I have no desire to start a philosophical debate (although if you think

>it

> >is a bad idea to even ask this question by all means write back) but am

> >just interested in canvassing opinion at this point in time. My personal

> >belief is that chiropractic can stay intact philosophically while

> >recognizing the need for occasional use of medication. Perhaps this is

>too

> >much of an idealized model, perhaps not.

> >If there is interest of a wide scale then we can go to the next step of

> >investigation, something that I am willing to do.

> >

> > D Freeman

> >Mailing address: 2480 Liberty Street NE, Suite 180

> >Salem, Oregon 97303

> >ph 503 763-3528

> >fax 503 763-3530

> >cell 503 871-0715

>

>

>

>

> Knecht DC

>Namaste Chiropractic

>1809 NW

>Portland, OR 97209

>503-226-8010

>

>

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Willard: I like your idea.

Ann Goldeen

Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

> > >privileges for DCs

> > >Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:53:30 -0700

> > >

> > >Docs,

> > >I have a serious question I would like to pose to you all. How many of

> >you

> > >would take advantage of an educational program that eventually allowed

> >for

> > >limited prescription rights for Oregon licentiates? Now I know that

many

> > >docs will say that the reason that you got into chiropractic is because

> >you

> > >wanted a non-medicinal approach to healthcare, and I agree

> >wholeheartedly.

> > >On the other hand, there are occasional times when I can see that it

> >would

> > >be of a great advantage for a DC to be able to write a prescription for

a

> > >drug that is not available over the counter.

> > >The opthalmologists did a nice job of getting legislation passed that

> > >allowed them to set up this kind of a program, and I think it is now

> > >feasible that a similar program could be accomplished for the DCs, as

> >long

> > >as there is an adequate educational program in place.

> > >I have no desire to start a philosophical debate (although if you think

> >it

> > >is a bad idea to even ask this question by all means write back) but am

> > >just interested in canvassing opinion at this point in time. My

personal

> > >belief is that chiropractic can stay intact philosophically while

> > >recognizing the need for occasional use of medication. Perhaps this is

> >too

> > >much of an idealized model, perhaps not.

> > >If there is interest of a wide scale then we can go to the next step of

> > >investigation, something that I am willing to do.

> > >

> > > D Freeman

> > >Mailing address: 2480 Liberty Street NE, Suite 180

> > >Salem, Oregon 97303

> > >ph 503 763-3528

> > >fax 503 763-3530

> > >cell 503 871-0715

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Knecht DC

> >Namaste Chiropractic

> >1809 NW

> >Portland, OR 97209

> >503-226-8010

> >

> >

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>

>

>

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> 1809 NW

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> 503-226-8010

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[Guest guest]

Willard;

That we should do to protect our scope of practice from future acts of

institutional terrorism.

Les

At 06:39 PM 6/24/02 -0700, Dr. Willard Bertrand, D.C. wrote:

>Now is the time to get RX privileges for all OTC and nutritional supplements

>written into our law as a legend, or list like the naturopaths have done.

>Someday they will yank the ability to get iron, ephedra, etc as OTC drugs

>and then we will still have the privilege to write script for the same

>because our law will not be tied to the same one threat governs health food

>stores. This would safeguard our profession and add to our ability to

>broaden our scope.

>

>

>Willard

>

> Survey of thoughts about prescription writing

> > >privileges for DCs

> > >Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 07:53:30 -0700

> > >

> > >Docs,

> > >I have a serious question I would like to pose to you all. How many of

> >you

> > >would take advantage of an educational program that eventually allowed

> >for

> > >limited prescription rights for Oregon licentiates? Now I know that many

> > >docs will say that the reason that you got into chiropractic is because

> >you

> > >wanted a non-medicinal approach to healthcare, and I agree

> >wholeheartedly.

> > >On the other hand, there are occasional times when I can see that it

> >would

> > >be of a great advantage for a DC to be able to write a prescription for a

> > >drug that is not available over the counter.

> > >The opthalmologists did a nice job of getting legislation passed that

> > >allowed them to set up this kind of a program, and I think it is now

> > >feasible that a similar program could be accomplished for the DCs, as

> >long

> > >as there is an adequate educational program in place.

> > >I have no desire to start a philosophical debate (although if you think

> >it

> > >is a bad idea to even ask this question by all means write back) but am

> > >just interested in canvassing opinion at this point in time. My personal

> > >belief is that chiropractic can stay intact philosophically while

> > >recognizing the need for occasional use of medication. Perhaps this is

> >too

> > >much of an idealized model, perhaps not.

> > >If there is interest of a wide scale then we can go to the next step of

> > >investigation, something that I am willing to do.

> > >

> > > D Freeman

> > >Mailing address: 2480 Liberty Street NE, Suite 180

> > >Salem, Oregon 97303

> > >ph 503 763-3528

> > >fax 503 763-3530

> > >cell 503 871-0715

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Knecht DC

> >Namaste Chiropractic

> >1809 NW

> >Portland, OR 97209

> >503-226-8010

> >

> >

> >_________________________________________________________________

> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

> >

>

>

>

>

> Knecht DC

>Namaste Chiropractic

>1809 NW

>Portland, OR 97209

>503-226-8010

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Somethink to think about while we get all glowy inside over the prospect of

RX writing is to think about the DO's and what happened to their profession

as they were absorbed into the big medical vacumn. Very few DO's now

preform manipulation of any kind or even know how to.

We virtually have a monopoly on a healing art and although the PT's are

trying to make inroads into it, I personally believe that starting to write

and then rely on RX over the next few years would truly mean our eventual

demiss as a unique healing professionl

When Dr. Dallas brought up this grand idea for the DCM I sent out a

questionaire to every MD, DO and FNP here in Tillamook County to get an idea

of their thoughts on our getting even limited RX writing abilities. All but

one said they would fight tooth and nail and with money to stop it. A

couple even responded that they could not believe we would even consider

wanting to with our history of healing without. Some thought it was foolish

on our part to consider it stating that it took them 4-5 years training in

dx. and Rx writing and a few months or even a year of training for those of

us in the field would be dangerous to the public. We must remember all the

sites lately and research being done showing how many errors are occurring

with RX's at this time in the hands of what many would call highly trained

experts in RX use.

We must remember that many are coming to us even with the all the negative

mud being thrown ourway over the years. Our patients don't come to us for

RX. and yes it would be nice to be able to write a RX for a muscle relaxer

for that occaisional patient we have to refer. But many, a very high

percentage of our patients (especially new) come to us because the RX's have

failed to do anything but cover up their complaints and usually lead to

another RX to take care of side effects. Just at the time when Society is

turning to natural health care including record numbers seeing alternative

care providers, is not the time to try and become the other

take care

Steve Kinne

[Guest guest]

Steve,

As usual your perspective is interesting and well considered. What happened to DOs has to be consideration for DCs looking at this question, although one has to wonder if it was the meds that did it or a variety of factors.

It is not true that is takes 4-5 years of dx to learn how to write scrips; that is a gross exaggeration. Medical students get one term of pharmacology, and then two years of various clerkships and a minimum of one year of internship before they are let loose on the public. They get a total of about 4 days instruction in how to care for musculoskeletal complaints, including the appropriate scrips.

I think the key to this issue if it ever sees the light of day is to have a very limited pharmacopia; one that extends what we do with the OTC drugs. DCs should not be prescribing Tamoxifen or Methotrexate under any circumstances. There are occasions when I would like to prescribe a narcotic pain reliever. They are not frequent, but I think that darvocet is not that far removed from Tylenol that it is an unreasonable stretch.

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Re: Survey :follow up note!

Somethink to think about while we get all glowy inside over the prospect ofRX writing is to think about the DO's and what happened to their professionas they were absorbed into the big medical vacumn. Very few DO's nowpreform manipulation of any kind or even know how to.We virtually have a monopoly on a healing art and although the PT's aretrying to make inroads into it, I personally believe that starting to writeand then rely on RX over the next few years would truly mean our eventualdemiss as a unique healing professionlWhen Dr. Dallas brought up this grand idea for the DCM I sent out aquestionaire to every MD, DO and FNP here in Tillamook County to get an ideaof their thoughts on our getting even limited RX writing abilities. All butone said they would fight tooth and nail and with money to stop it. Acouple even responded that they could not believe we would even considerwanting to with our history of healing without. Some thought it was foolishon our part to consider it stating that it took them 4-5 years training indx. and Rx writing and a few months or even a year of training for those ofus in the field would be dangerous to the public. We must remember all thesites lately and research being done showing how many errors are occurringwith RX's at this time in the hands of what many would call highly trainedexperts in RX use.We must remember that many are coming to us even with the all the negativemud being thrown ourway over the years. Our patients don't come to us forRX. and yes it would be nice to be able to write a RX for a muscle relaxerfor that occaisional patient we have to refer. But many, a very highpercentage of our patients (especially new) come to us because the RX's havefailed to do anything but cover up their complaints and usually lead toanother RX to take care of side effects. Just at the time when Society isturning to natural health care including record numbers seeing alternativecare providers, is not the time to try and become the othertake careSteve KinneOregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.