Re: back on the lotion bars

[Guest guest]

OK, guys. I made the lotion bars. Now, here's the next question.

The ingredients (by weight) totaled 15 oz. plus I added 1-1/2 tsps

of f/o. The recipe filled up (23) of those small deodorant screw

up containers. When I bought the containers they said they were

1/2 ouncers. Obviously, they must mean 1/2 "fluid" ounces when

filled. Because if the total ingredients came to 15 oz. I would have

gotten (30) containers filled, not (23). So.......when labeling the

containers I thought that since they were in a "solid" state, you had

to label them by weight. Even though they were sold to me as

1/2 ouncers, they can't be labeled that for the body lotions. So does

that mean I have to weigh an empty container to get its weight, and

then weigh a filled container to figure out how much the "contents"

weighs and that would be the "ounce weight" to put on the label?

I hope I explained that or should I say questioned that correctly? Does

everybody know what I'm getting at here? I never thought about it

when I did lip balms a couple of weeks ago. I labeled them as 1/4 oz.

because that's what was represented when I purchased them. So I

probably labeled them incorrectly according to the gov't, right?

Boy, this is a pain. By the way, the lotion bars seemed to come out OK.

Now, what is the average price for these? Any suggestions?

M

Re: OK, nobody's here.

ounces would be weight on a scaleI measure everything solid also cause I figured it would be the same as cooking.If a (cooking) recipe calls 1 tbl butter melted and another calls for 1 tbl melted butter there IS a difference in the amount of butter.TerriOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

[Guest guest]

, yea you might want to wiegh an empty one and then a full one to get the wieght. I think that when they tell you somehting will hold such and such wieght, they are talking about a water weight, I dont know. But oils and was weight different so it dosnt stay true. Makes ya nuts I know. I dont know about the price, I dont sell that size nor know what it costed you to make one.

TTYl!

Shaye

-----Original Message-----From: Joe Murray [mailto:jmurray2@...]Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:38 AM Subject: Re: back on the lotion bars

OK, guys. I made the lotion bars. Now, here's the next question.

The ingredients (by weight) totaled 15 oz. plus I added 1-1/2 tsps

of f/o. The recipe filled up (23) of those small deodorant screw

up containers. When I bought the containers they said they were

1/2 ouncers. Obviously, they must mean 1/2 "fluid" ounces when

filled. Because if the total ingredients came to 15 oz. I would have

gotten (30) containers filled, not (23). So.......when labeling the

containers I thought that since they were in a "solid" state, you had

to label them by weight. Even though they were sold to me as

1/2 ouncers, they can't be labeled that for the body lotions. So does

that mean I have to weigh an empty container to get its weight, and

then weigh a filled container to figure out how much the "contents"

weighs and that would be the "ounce weight" to put on the label?

I hope I explained that or should I say questioned that correctly? Does

everybody know what I'm getting at here? I never thought about it

when I did lip balms a couple of weeks ago. I labeled them as 1/4 oz.

because that's what was represented when I purchased them. So I

probably labeled them incorrectly according to the gov't, right?

Boy, this is a pain. By the way, the lotion bars seemed to come out OK.

Now, what is the average price for these? Any suggestions?

M

Re: OK, nobody's here.

ounces would be weight on a scaleI measure everything solid also cause I figured it would be the same as cooking.If a (cooking) recipe calls 1 tbl butter melted and another calls for 1 tbl melted butter there IS a difference in the amount of butter.TerriOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

[Guest guest]

Morning ,

Your right... I've never gotten the right weight for any lotion bar container

so weigh an empty one and then deduct that weight from a full one and label

accordingly. As for a price I really can't help too much because I just switched

over to this same container myself, but I'm going to try $2.50-$2.75 somewhere

in there. After the response from the girls at my sisters work over a solid

lotion I could charge $10 each and they would still fly LOL I was getting

$4.00 for the larger deoderant containers and they very very happy with the

price and this was the price that they flew at one of the shows I did last

year.

Terri

Joe Murray wrote:

OK, guys. I made the

lotion bars. Now, here's the next question.

The ingredients (by

weight) totaled 15 oz. plus I added 1-1/2 tsps

of f/o. The recipe

filled up (23) of those small deodorant screw

up containers. When

I bought the containers they said they were

1/2 ouncers. Obviously,

they must mean 1/2 "fluid" ounces when

filled. Because if

the total ingredients came to 15 oz. I would have

gotten (30) containers

filled, not (23). So.......when labeling the

containers I thought

that since they were in a "solid" state, you had

to label them by weight.

Even though they were sold to me as

1/2 ouncers, they can't

be labeled that for the body lotions. So does

that mean I have to

weigh an empty container to get its weight, and

then weigh a filled

container to figure out how much the "contents"

weighs and that would

be the "ounce weight" to put on the label?

I hope I explained

that or should I say questioned that correctly? Does

everybody know what

I'm getting at here? I never thought about it

when I did lip balms

a couple of weeks ago. I labeled them as 1/4 oz.

because that's what

was represented when I purchased them. So I

probably labeled them

incorrectly according to the gov't, right?

Boy, this is a pain.

By the way, the lotion bars seemed to come out OK.

Now, what is the average

price for these? Any suggestions?

M

Re: OK, nobody's here.

ounces would be weight on a scale

I measure everything solid also cause I figured it would be the same as

cooking.

If a (cooking) recipe calls 1 tbl butter melted and another calls for

1

tbl melted butter there IS a difference in the amount of butter.

Terri

Our members map

http://.homestead.com/locations.html

Our Message Board

http://www.voy.com/21568/

Check out these great Molds!!

http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htm

All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be

forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post

author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal

opinions only.

[Guest guest]

-

I weigh the empty tube/bottle first & then re-weigh it with product in

it. I bought bottles that said they were 8oz. When I put lotion in,

they hold 7.5oz. With body spray it's 8.5oz. With bubble bath it's

9.5oz. It's gonna depend on the actual weight of your product from what

I've experienced.

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

[Guest guest]

yes...you should label with the contents not the container included.

Deb

[Guest guest]

I think they meant fluid ounces when they told you how much the lotion

bars would hold .. not ounces by weight. It would be pretty hard for them

to predict how many ounces by weight the container would hold .. since

they have no idea what type of a recipe you are putting in it, after all

...

- Ela

(000)___(000) Ela Heyn

/ @ @ \ ferret@...

| |

======@====== http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5483

[Guest guest]

Cost to make them? Well, I'm not sure now. I have everything in my

inventory marked price-wise what I paid per ounce, including the s/h.

But now I'm confused again because of the oils. When you purchase

them, aren't they priced by the fluid ounce? If so, when I made the

lotion bars I WEIGHED the oils as we discussed. So when figuring

up cost of ingredients, I don't see how it can be a true cost. I guess I

could take the time to pour each oil I used (by weight) and then see

how much "fluid ounces" each was and figure it from there. But it sure

seems like there's got to be an easier way. GIRLS????

M

Re: OK, nobody's here.

ounces would be weight on a scaleI measure everything solid also cause I figured it would be the same as cooking.If a (cooking) recipe calls 1 tbl butter melted and another calls for 1 tbl melted butter there IS a difference in the amount of butter.TerriOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

[Guest guest]

Terri

Personally, I think you sold them too low. I was selling the twist-up type that

look like large lip balm tubes which when ordered said 1/2 oz. also. I sold them

for $4.00 and had no problem selling them. Don't forget - you have to figure in

your labor and labeling. So I'll probably sell these for about the same price. That's

a pretty decent profit.

M

Re: back on the lotion bars

Morning , Your right... I've never gotten the right weight for any lotion bar container so weigh an empty one and then deduct that weight from a full one and label accordingly. As for a price I really can't help too much because I just switched over to this same container myself, but I'm going to try $2.50-$2.75 somewhere in there. After the response from the girls at my sisters work over a solid lotion I could charge $10 each and they would still fly LOL I was getting $4.00 for the larger deoderant containers and they very very happy with the price and this was the price that they flew at one of the shows I did last year. Terri

[Guest guest]

Colleen

That's what I figured. Seems like the logical thing to me. I guess we all

agree on that part, anyway. Yay

M

Re: back on the lotion bars

-I weigh the empty tube/bottle first & then re-weigh it with product init. I bought bottles that said they were 8oz. When I put lotion in,they hold 7.5oz. With body spray it's 8.5oz. With bubble bath it's9.5oz. It's gonna depend on the actual weight of your product from whatI've experienced.ColleenCountry Meadow Creations

[Guest guest]

,

Here is a thought. Why don't you weigh each container of oils when you

get it? Subtract the approximate weight of the container, and then divide

the cost by the number of ounces in the container.

This will give you a number representing what you paid per ounce of that

oil *by weight*, and you can write that on the outside of the container.

Sorry if I misunderstood the question; this just seemed like the easiest

solution based on my understanding of what you were trying to do.

- Ela

(000)___(000) Ela Heyn

/ @ @ \ ferret@...

| |

======@====== http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5483