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Depends on where you live, Connie. If you're in So. Calif. I can email you

privately the name of a supplier. I also know of a company in Ohio. Deby

Wholesale

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> I've noticed that the prices on products on some websites for supplies

> is the same as my local health food store.Can anyone tell me where I can

> buy oils for soapmaking at wholesale prices. I now have my retail tax

> number.Thank-you.Connie

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> " You are the sum total of your life experiences " CONNIE.

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Living in New York state is just that ---paperwork (probably is in other states

too. <VBG>. After just having the pleasure of being audited, i will have to say

- yes get that certificate you never know. Actually I believe it is a must if

they arent' paying tax.

I just staple the copy to the file folder that I put the invoice copies in .

chris

Katy wrote:

> I'm new at this wholesale thing...Just filled my first order last week. My

> question is....do we have to have an actual copy of the customer's resale

> certificate on file in case we're audited? My fiance' and his Dad own an

> auto body shop here in town and he said that they have to provide a copy if

> they want to be tax exempt for a purchase. Seems like a lot of paperwork to

> me. How are you guys handling this? Thanks!

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Yes, you have to have a copy on file. And that's exactly the reason that you

stated. If the State audits you, you need to show "proof" that they're exempt

and that's why you didn't charge the tax. Believe me, I worked in the Acct'g

Dept. for a large company.

M

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I'm new at this wholesale thing...Just filled my first order last week. Myquestion is....do we have to have an actual copy of the customer's resalecertificate on file in case we're audited? My fiance' and his Dad own anauto body shop here in town and he said that they have to provide a copy ifthey want to be tax exempt for a purchase. Seems like a lot of paperwork tome. How are you guys handling this? Thanks!KatyOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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I definitely need to spend this winter getting more organized with my

paperwork! It's all there....somewhere! :-) Thanks for the advice Chris!

Katy

> Living in New York state is just that ---paperwork (probably is in other

states too. <VBG>. After just having the pleasure of being audited, i will

have to say - yes get that certificate you never know. Actually I believe

it is a must if

> they arent' paying tax.

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Thanks ....I figured it would probably be better to be safe than sorry. I bet your accounting background has really helped you in business. I've always hated that side of it but I guess I've got to get used to it. Thanks for your help!

Katy

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I'm new at this wholesale thing...Just filled my first order last week. Myquestion is....do we have to have an actual copy of the customer's resalecertificate on file in case we're audited? My fiance' and his Dad own anauto body shop here in town and he said that they have to provide a copy ifthey want to be tax exempt for a purchase. Seems like a lot of paperwork tome. How are you guys handling this? Thanks!KatyOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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What many do is to take their cost...double it or triple it...whatever your

retail would be...and the reduce that by 25-50%......

This, below, is one very helpful item to do this with....Laurie H. From MN

===============

Dan has make up these spreadsheets...gotta have Excel for them

though...This is info off his add...sorry, I am not meaning to push an add

at you...but it does have all the info in here.

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If you need help figuring out what to charge for your soap and toiletry

products? How much profit do you make? His COST-SELL spreadsheets were

designed to give you very accurate selling price suggestions based on the

cost of your raw products, your recipe and your labor.

He has one just for SOAP and another for TOILETRY items. His www. site addy

is: http://www.cybercitymall.com/crafters/costsell.htm

He also has a FREE SPREADSHEET that will take any soap/candle/toiletry

recipe and convert it to just the size you need?

It's called a RECIPE CONVERTER and he gives it away to show you the quality

and helpfulness his products products. To request a free copy:

http://www.cybercitymall.com/crafters/recipe.htm

These are spreadsheet " files " and require the EXCEL 2002/2000/97 spreadsheet

" program " to operate.

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> For those of you that sell wholesale, what is your method of figuring

> out cost that still allows you to make a profit?

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> Best,

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Just my thoughts and experience on wholesale:

Most retailers like to mark up 100%. That means wholesale price should be

about half of retail.

We don't do a volume discount as a rule unless someone is doing a LARGE

private label and then we figure that accordingly.

We DO, however have a minimum order. I think this is important.

A retail store needs to carry a certain 'amount' of your product to make a

showing in the store. You'll need to figure out what this amount is based

upon your product and prices.

The 'minimum order also keeps quasi 'retailers' from buying wholesale just

to get a discount. This sometimes happens on the internet when you don't

really know if the customer has a store or is just looking for wholesale

discounts.

Creekside Soaps

On 6/1/05 9:41 AM, " "

< > wrote:

> From: " Koalas Boutique " <Koalas_boutique@...>

> Subject: wholesale help needed.

>

> hiya. Ok i was asked to do wholesale. And i kind ofunderstand the

> basics but I think i need help with some of the extras. Ok this is

> what i do understand.

>

> Ratail = costs x 3 Roughly. Soaps average about $1/oz

>

> Wholesale = costs x 2 Roughly. soaps ~ $.60/oz

>

> now I do also know that usually the more someone buys the more of a

> discount they would get. The question is though just how much of a

> discount and at what amount does one get a discount.

>

> Who much does a person usually buy when they buy wholesale. I would

> assume that one should have a set amount that a person would HAVE to

> order at least at first right? Or no?

>

> hhmm I think i need to find a wholesale handbook. lol lol well when

> I get figured out. maybe we can discusse home parties. lol lol That

> seems tobe the next step everyone is asking about. lol lol And never

> even being to a house party myself i would have no idea what to do.

> All i would know is that it would have something to do with either a

> peticure/manicure or facial party.

>

> So any wholesalers out there. Some advice would be fun. :D thanks

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I just posted to a bunch of groups asking about this very subject...can't

remember if I asked here..old age is setting in...did I mention I'm only 30

and losing my marbles! YIKES! God help me at 40 and 50...beyond that I don't

think there's any hope! Hehehehe

I am looking at wholesaling my goodies. I definitely plan on a minimum order

amount. I am looking at making the initial order higher than follow up

orders also.

I will also be requiring at tax ID number even from those out of

state...just one way of trying to make sure they are a legitimate business.

NO tax Id, no wholesale orders!

I am charging 2/3 of my retail price to wholesalers. My time is valuable and

I MUST be paid for it. I don't do this for free! I am sending several

brochures to many of the tourist area shops and to many that are not so

local. I go up to the Adirondacks whenever I get a chance. I spent this past

weekend in Sacandaga and Old Forge - hated leaving there! Always do! Going

up to Schroon Lake in July for an Adirondack Rustic Expo. Can't wait! I

think there's a weekend in June, we're going up to Old Forge for the day for

something going on in town.

Private labeling is a whole nother discussion! If you have insurance MAKE

SURE you're covered for it! Make sure you put your info on that label

according to what the insurance company tells you! God forbid you don't and

some ninny comes along with " I got soap in my eye and I'm gonna sue. " I love

those people! NOT! Why on earth would you think putting soap in your eye was

ok? Don't give me that handmade bologna either! Sticking your finger in your

eye hurts so why wouldn't something made from oils and chemicals hurt? DUH!

Gotta be smarter than the thing you're trying to use! Some people just

aren't equipped I tell ya! :-)

~Shyra A.

The Aromatic Mills <http://www.aromaticmills.com> www.aromaticmills.com

Your Soap, Toiletry, and Cosmetic Supply Source!

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On Behalf Of Ryhanen

Just my thoughts and experience on wholesale:

Most retailers like to mark up 100%. That means wholesale price should be

about half of retail.

We don't do a volume discount as a rule unless someone is doing a LARGE

private label and then we figure that accordingly.

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Good morning,

I am totally a newbie to all of this but very interested a few barber shops want

to carry a few of my products in the city. For example: A group wants to

purchase say 12 of a $6.00 soap. You would sell them to the group for $4.00

each?

What would your minimum be?

Do you expect payment at delivery?

When doing this are you able to keep your label on the item or do they expect to

use their label to reorder?

Thanks

" Shyra A. ~ The Aromatic Mills ~ " <aromaticmills@...> wrote:

I just posted to a bunch of groups asking about this very subject...can't

remember if I asked here..old age is setting in...did I mention I'm only 30

and losing my marbles! YIKES! God help me at 40 and 50...beyond that I don't

think there's any hope! Hehehehe

I am looking at wholesaling my goodies. I definitely plan on a minimum order

amount. I am looking at making the initial order higher than follow up

orders also.

I will also be requiring at tax ID number even from those out of

state...just one way of trying to make sure they are a legitimate business.

NO tax Id, no wholesale orders!

I am charging 2/3 of my retail price to wholesalers. My time is valuable and

I MUST be paid for it. I don't do this for free! I am sending several

brochures to many of the tourist area shops and to many that are not so

local. I go up to the Adirondacks whenever I get a chance. I spent this past

weekend in Sacandaga and Old Forge - hated leaving there! Always do! Going

up to Schroon Lake in July for an Adirondack Rustic Expo. Can't wait! I

think there's a weekend in June, we're going up to Old Forge for the day for

something going on in town.

Private labeling is a whole nother discussion! If you have insurance MAKE

SURE you're covered for it! Make sure you put your info on that label

according to what the insurance company tells you! God forbid you don't and

some ninny comes along with " I got soap in my eye and I'm gonna sue. " I love

those people! NOT! Why on earth would you think putting soap in your eye was

ok? Don't give me that handmade bologna either! Sticking your finger in your

eye hurts so why wouldn't something made from oils and chemicals hurt? DUH!

Gotta be smarter than the thing you're trying to use! Some people just

aren't equipped I tell ya! :-)

~Shyra A.

The Aromatic Mills <http://www.aromaticmills.com> www.aromaticmills.com

Your Soap, Toiletry, and Cosmetic Supply Source!

-----Original Message-----

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Ryhanen

Just my thoughts and experience on wholesale:

Most retailers like to mark up 100%. That means wholesale price should be

about half of retail.

We don't do a volume discount as a rule unless someone is doing a LARGE

private label and then we figure that accordingly.

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I do not deliver. I ship only. I don’t have time to drive all over the

earth. I live near Albany so there is a great area here to cover and it can

be VERY time consuming going some where. My hubby works 15 minutes from our

house. During rush hour is can take him 1 ½ hours to get home or it can take

20 minutes….traffic here is a zoo! The Northway ain’t always the best way to

travel either.

I sell my products wholesale at 2/3 my retail price. I don’t have any soaps

higher than $4.50 retail right now. I need to be paid for my time and not

just my ingredients. I don’t do craft fairs as there’s no guarantee that

I’ll even make my booth fee back. The weather can drive people away also and

there’s no way of knowing 6 weeks ahead of time if the weather will be

nasty. I am thinking about doing 2-3 craft fairs this fall with my mother.

We’d share the booth. She makes jewelry. We figure this way neither one of

us will be completely out the booth fee. We’re bound to make at least

something!

Also, ALL orders must be prepaid. I am not making $150 worth of soap and

then get screwed over. I do not accept checks from anyone including my own

mother! They bounce and it costs me money and time. I take credit cards and

PayPal. I will take a bank check or USPS Postal Money Order ONLY. No other

Money Orders are acceptable. Yes I am fussy. If they don’t like it, buy from

someone else. I provide excellent customer service and jump through hoops

for my customers. I don’t sell myself short. I am not a pee-on who takes

crap from anyone! You have to have a backbone to make it in business. My dad

has none! His business is in the toilet and he should be making serious

money….he barely breaks even as a mechanic. He charges people for like

nothing. He totally screws himself. He always says the customers will go

elsewhere…… Meanwhile, he’s had many of his customers for over 20 years. So

I don’t think they all would jump ship on him. Many of them travel to have

HIM work on their cars – we’re talking 30- 60 minute trip for these folks.

He used to work for a guy in Albany when I was a kid and the business went

under. When he opened his own place, many of those customers went to him

even though he has the business closer to his house. Oh it wasn’t his

business that went under….want to clarify that!

There are customers out there that want something for nothing. I do NOT

cater to them at all. Go to the dollar store if you want some cheap crappy

thing that is made by some poor child in China or India or wherever who gets

paid 10 cents a month to make the stuff. These are not my customers. People

don’t blink at spending $4 on 2 oz of lotion at BBW….these are my types of

customers – folks who will pay and not complain. I shop there and never even

thought about how expensive it is.

The first order has a minimum of $150 not including shipping. Follow up

orders have a $100 minimum. There’s also mins on the number of products they

can order. For example, they can’t get just 1 bar of each scent. They must

get 6 or depending on which they are. This goes for all of the products. I

am not making 1 bath fizzie in 10 scents. People will ask for this also. I

will send samples with their order. Not full size items!

I offer my regular labels at no additional charge. I also offer a line that

is Adirondack in style for no additional charge. Other than that it is

considered custom work and there’s charges.

If anyone EVER takes my labels off and replaces them, they better run and

hide! I will sue so fast! I have a clause I am working on sticking in my

order form about this. Don’t you dare take my work and then claim it as your

own!!!!!! I’ll hunt you down and slap you silly with a dead fish. Why?

Because fish stinks! LOL I am not joking about the clause and suing. My work

is copyrighten as are my labels. I do customer labeling so there is no need

to rip me off. I would have a COW if I ever found someone doing this.

Something like this just happened to poor Marti. She’s on a bunch of the

groups. Some claimed that they were her! They used her business name and

re-sold the products the loser bought from Marti. I’d sue that nitwit fast!

~Shyra A.

The Aromatic Mills <http://www.aromaticmills.com> www.aromaticmills.com

Your Soap, Toiletry, and Cosmetic Supply Source!

-----Original Message-----

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On Behalf Of KAREN TRAWICK

Good morning,

I am totally a newbie to all of this but very interested a few barber shops

want to carry a few of my products in the city. For example: A group wants

to purchase say 12 of a $6.00 soap. You would sell them to the group for

$4.00 each?

What would your minimum be?

Do you expect payment at delivery?

When doing this are you able to keep your label on the item or do they

expect to use their label to reorder?

Thanks

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