Guest guest Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 >hi lisa,,, what, were we twins in a different life......ive also got the chf, diabetes, and the sleep apnea. i just did the sleep studies in dec, jan and was told i woke up 32 times in an hour....i have no recollection of waking up....i cant tolerate the mask but since i seem to be okay in the mornings they dont seem concerned about it.... next time i get to philly to see the heart failure specialist ill definitely look into it....thanks for the info...... bob in pa --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 Bob, I do think we were twins separated at birth (after all I have twin daughters myself, lol). Don't mess around with the Sleep Apnea........it affects so many things. Be sure the docs are all aware of it. I have been on a CPAP now for 10 years. I had Sleep Apnea for 5 before we even knew I had it. My memory was drastically affected, I would pass out if I sat for more than a few minutes and wake up disoriented, my mood was bad and I got angry a lot of the time. Be careful! in CA Re: Bob: Weight Loss >hi lisa,,,what, were we twins in a different life......ive also got the chf, diabetes, and the sleep apnea.i just did the sleep studies in dec, jan and was told i woke up 32 times in an hour....i have no recollection of waking up....i cant tolerate the mask but since i seem to be okay in the mornings they dont seem concerned about it....next time i get to philly to see the heart failure specialist ill definitely look into it....thanks for the info...... bob in pa---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company]Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 hi turk,,, everybody tells me sleep apnea is dangerous and does contribute to heart troubles.. i did two nights of sleep studies......once without the mask and then a month later with the mask...i almost never breathe through my nose and couldnt handle the mask....i layed awake most of the night trying to figure out how to sleep with the mask on and yet still breath through my mouth....when i figured it out i was able to fall asleep....... the sleep doc asked me to rate the mask on a one to ten scale with 10 being the worst....i said 1000. he laughed and said, lets wait a year... i still swear these guys just pass me around cause i have medicare and a good supplement...after my hundred bucks in january they get it all and nothing comes out of my pocket... i have severe arthritus as well (in my hips) and the docs here in scranton prescribed vioxx. and it worked....i was pain free for about 3 weeks.....then i went to philly to see the congestive heart specialist....when he saw the vioxx he became real concerned....seems it makes the kidneys want to retain water...so im off that and back to ibuprofen (and i eat them like candy)...and now i see a law firm on tv advertising for people that have taken vioxx to call immediately....it never ends i guess...... i dont know what to say about the sleep apnea,,,,exept for an occasional night that i cant sleep, i feel just fine..... and hey,,,im closer to you than most of these gals......you're welcome to come here and clean any time you care to..... and welcome back bill,,,,,,i to missed your humor....... bob in pa --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 lisa,,, i totally agree with you but what about my case,,,,the mask is absolutely intolereable.....i just lay awake with the inside of my nose on fire... bob in pa At 03:09 PM 4/13/02 -0700, you wrote: Turk, Having sleep apnea could be extremely dangerous if you continue to not get treated. I know of many people who had auto accidents because they fell asleep at the wheel. Kind of like the passing out most of us have felt prior to going into Cardiac Arrest. The longer you have it the worse you are affected by it. It is extremely hard on your heart...remember that when it happens no oxygen is getting to your brain. Your brain then makes you move or jerk in order to get you breathing again....might even set off your ICD. It also affects the cells in your brain and causes memory problems. The longer you have it the longer it takes for your brain to recognize the low levels of oxygen....which increases the time between breaths. The plus side is that when you do something about it finally you feel so much more rested and have more energy. Your memory will also improve greatly. It's a must to take care of it. I have been on a CPAP for 10 years and recommend it totally. in CA Re: Bob: Weight Loss >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:22:35 +0000 > > > >hi lisa,,, > > >what, were we twins in a different life......ive also got the chf, >diabetes, and the sleep apnea. > >i just did the sleep studies in dec, jan and was told i woke up 32 times in >an hour....i have no recollection of waking up....i cant tolerate the mask >but since i seem to be okay in the mornings they dont seem concerned about >it.... > >next time i get to philly to see the heart failure specialist ill >definitely look into it....thanks for the info...... > > bob in pa > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Please visit the Zapper homepage at http://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 ,,,, the doc mentioned something about the surgery,,,,dont remember much about it,,,but he did say, lets wait a year....guess he figured it isnt all that bad and hopefully ill lose some wieght and get rid of it.... bob --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Hi Bob; I have Sleep Apnea too. Is it dangerous would you recommend going to the sleep center, never even discussed it with anyone. Let me know please thanks. TURK >From: J <robertj@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Bob: Weight Loss >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:22:35 +0000 > > > >hi lisa,,, > > >what, were we twins in a different life......ive also got the chf, >diabetes, and the sleep apnea. > >i just did the sleep studies in dec, jan and was told i woke up 32 times in >an hour....i have no recollection of waking up....i cant tolerate the mask >but since i seem to be okay in the mornings they dont seem concerned about >it.... > >next time i get to philly to see the heart failure specialist ill >definitely look into it....thanks for the info...... > > bob in pa > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Turk, Having sleep apnea could be extremely dangerous if you continue to not get treated. I know of many people who had auto accidents because they fell asleep at the wheel. Kind of like the passing out most of us have felt prior to going into Cardiac Arrest. The longer you have it the worse you are affected by it. It is extremely hard on your heart...remember that when it happens no oxygen is getting to your brain. Your brain then makes you move or jerk in order to get you breathing again....might even set off your ICD. It also affects the cells in your brain and causes memory problems. The longer you have it the longer it takes for your brain to recognize the low levels of oxygen....which increases the time between breaths. The plus side is that when you do something about it finally you feel so much more rested and have more energy. Your memory will also improve greatly. It's a must to take care of it. I have been on a CPAP for 10 years and recommend it totally. in CA Re: Bob: Weight Loss>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:22:35 +0000>>> >hi lisa,,,>>>what, were we twins in a different life......ive also got the chf,>diabetes, and the sleep apnea.>>i just did the sleep studies in dec, jan and was told i woke up 32 times in>an hour....i have no recollection of waking up....i cant tolerate the mask>but since i seem to be okay in the mornings they dont seem concerned about>it....>>next time i get to philly to see the heart failure specialist ill>definitely look into it....thanks for the info......>> bob in pa>>--->[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company]>_________________________________________________________________Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.comPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Bob, My dad had the same problem and elected not to do anything about it. He has a rare form of Parkinsons called MSA (multiple system atrophy). Very few people have it so there is little known about the stages and life expectancy. There is also no way to really treat it. In his case he chooses not to do anything about it.....he knows he will die soon anyway and with his other problems feels this is minor. My mom on the other hand see how it adversely affects all of his other problems. Since you can't tolerate the CPAP....which by the way lulls me to sleep now.....have you considered the surgery. When I was first diagnosed over 10 years ago the positive outcomes of the surgery were minor and not worth it. Today they have improved the procedure and the odds. If my weight loss surgery does not improve mine, then I am considering the surgery. Re: Bob: Weight Loss >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:22:35 +0000 > > > >hi lisa,,, > > >what, were we twins in a different life......ive also got the chf, >diabetes, and the sleep apnea. > >i just did the sleep studies in dec, jan and was told i woke up 32 times in >an hour....i have no recollection of waking up....i cant tolerate the mask >but since i seem to be okay in the mornings they dont seem concerned about >it.... > >next time i get to philly to see the heart failure specialist ill >definitely look into it....thanks for the info...... > > bob in pa > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Please visit the Zapper homepage at http://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Bob: If the doc says to wait then he is the one to listen to. Just pay attention to your symptoms as we know most how things are affecting us. Re: Bob: Weight Loss ,,,,the doc mentioned something about the surgery,,,,dont remember much about it,,,but he did say, lets wait a year....guess he figured it isnt all that bad and hopefully ill lose some wieght and get rid of it.... bob---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company]Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Hey Bob; If thats what you want no problem bud, anything to help a fellow zapper. Let me get back from SF and we'll set up a date and I'll come and clean your house and I'll bring a few cuties with me as well so it'll be easy on me. Good Luck Good Health , in your case Good Hips and Good Heart. TURK >From: J <robertj@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Bob: Weight Loss >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:18:10 +0000 > >hi turk,,, > >everybody tells me sleep apnea is dangerous and does contribute to heart >troubles.. > >i did two nights of sleep studies......once without the mask and then a >month later with the mask...i almost never breathe through my nose and >couldnt handle the mask....i layed awake most of the night trying to figure >out how to sleep with the mask on and yet still breath through my >mouth....when i figured it out i was able to fall asleep....... > >the sleep doc asked me to rate the mask on a one to ten scale with 10 being >the worst....i said 1000. he laughed and said, lets wait a year... > >i still swear these guys just pass me around cause i have medicare and a >good supplement...after my hundred bucks in january they get it all and >nothing comes out of my pocket... > >i have severe arthritus as well (in my hips) and the docs here in scranton >prescribed vioxx. and it worked....i was pain free for about 3 >weeks.....then i went to philly to see the congestive heart >specialist....when he saw the vioxx he became real concerned....seems it >makes the kidneys want to retain water...so im off that and back to >ibuprofen (and i eat them like candy)...and now i see a law firm on tv >advertising for people that have taken vioxx to call immediately....it >never ends i guess...... > >i dont know what to say about the sleep apnea,,,,exept for an occasional >night that i cant sleep, i feel just fine..... and hey,,,im closer to you >than most of these gals......you're welcome to come here and clean any time >you care to..... > > and welcome back bill,,,,,,i to missed your humor....... > > bob in pa > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Oh Bye the way Bob Thanks for the info on the Apnea and as soon as i get back i am going to make an appt but what i am concerned is is there a cure for it. What can they do i cant breathe from my nose especially from the left side. I guess I'll see what they say. Thanks again. TURK >From: J <robertj@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Bob: Weight Loss >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:18:10 +0000 > >hi turk,,, > >everybody tells me sleep apnea is dangerous and does contribute to heart >troubles.. > >i did two nights of sleep studies......once without the mask and then a >month later with the mask...i almost never breathe through my nose and >couldnt handle the mask....i layed awake most of the night trying to figure >out how to sleep with the mask on and yet still breath through my >mouth....when i figured it out i was able to fall asleep....... > >the sleep doc asked me to rate the mask on a one to ten scale with 10 being >the worst....i said 1000. he laughed and said, lets wait a year... > >i still swear these guys just pass me around cause i have medicare and a >good supplement...after my hundred bucks in january they get it all and >nothing comes out of my pocket... > >i have severe arthritus as well (in my hips) and the docs here in scranton >prescribed vioxx. and it worked....i was pain free for about 3 >weeks.....then i went to philly to see the congestive heart >specialist....when he saw the vioxx he became real concerned....seems it >makes the kidneys want to retain water...so im off that and back to >ibuprofen (and i eat them like candy)...and now i see a law firm on tv >advertising for people that have taken vioxx to call immediately....it >never ends i guess...... > >i dont know what to say about the sleep apnea,,,,exept for an occasional >night that i cant sleep, i feel just fine..... and hey,,,im closer to you >than most of these gals......you're welcome to come here and clean any time >you care to..... > > and welcome back bill,,,,,,i to missed your humor....... > > bob in pa > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Thanks in CA; That explains why i am sleepy all the time besides my meds i guess that contribute. I wont delay treatment and I appriciate the advices and info. TURK PS: You have a lovely state(CA) >From: " " <Scrapnfriend@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: Bob: Weight Loss >Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 15:09:55 -0700 > >Turk, > >Having sleep apnea could be extremely dangerous if you continue to not get >treated. I know of many people who had auto accidents because they fell >asleep at the wheel. Kind of like the passing out most of us have felt >prior to going into Cardiac Arrest. The longer you have it the worse you >are affected by it. It is extremely hard on your heart...remember that >when it happens no oxygen is getting to your brain. Your brain then makes >you move or jerk in order to get you breathing again....might even set off >your ICD. > >It also affects the cells in your brain and causes memory problems. The >longer you have it the longer it takes for your brain to recognize the low >levels of oxygen....which increases the time between breaths. > >The plus side is that when you do something about it finally you feel so >much more rested and have more energy. Your memory will also improve >greatly. It's a must to take care of it. I have been on a CPAP for 10 >years and recommend it totally. > > in CA > Re: Bob: Weight Loss > >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 16:22:35 +0000 > > > > > > >hi lisa,,, > > > > > >what, were we twins in a different life......ive also got the chf, > >diabetes, and the sleep apnea. > > > >i just did the sleep studies in dec, jan and was told i woke up 32 >times in > >an hour....i have no recollection of waking up....i cant tolerate the >mask > >but since i seem to be okay in the mornings they dont seem concerned >about > >it.... > > > >next time i get to philly to see the heart failure specialist ill > >definitely look into it....thanks for the info...... > > > > bob in pa > > > >--- > >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob in PA >> i just lay awake with the >> inside of my nose on fire . . .Bob: You must be doing that smoking after sex thing all wrong. Try putting the cigarette between your lips. Best. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 I think Howwwwwwwwwwling is a better term after reading this one.LOL TURK >From: " BILLANDMARTHAMAHAN " <billandmarthamahan@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: Bob: Weight Loss >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 07:44:36 -0700 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob in PA > > >> i just lay awake with the > >> inside of my nose on fire . . . > > Bob: > You must be doing that smoking after sex thing all wrong. Try putting >the cigarette between your lips. > > Best. > > Bill > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 hi stu,,, im at a loss as to what to do..... the docs here in scranton put me on meds and i go to the heart failure specialist in phila and find out the meds are either wrong or not good for me..... as far as the sleep thing,,,,i wake up refreshed and only get up to use the bathroom once or twice (and thats good for a diabetic from what im told).... i dont feel anything and im always fresh when i wake up...... and you are right,,,even the sleep doc said if i lose the hundred pounds plus id probably not have the apnea or the dependance on insulin......the boat goes into the water later this week,,,then i start living on fruit, and diet soda, at least four days a week, anyway.. ive had hodgkins disease and they had to give me adriamycin. the heart failure guy seems to think that is what damaged the electrical system in my heart....i had no idea i had a problem til a year ago when i was in the hos;pital with pneumonia......i got zapped twice within a week of being out of the hospital and not since.....my breathing is bad when i exert myself,,,but again that is probably the weight again..... what did you mean by ,,,,you went out 12 times " " " i didnt understand what you meant by that.. and all restrictiions have been lifted for me except for chain saws.....it seems the vibration of them or jack hammer type machines will cause a zap....and i dont like them........ bob in pa --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 I also have Sleep Apnea. I went thru the sleep studies, and got a CPAP machine. From that moment on, I didn't get a decent nights sleep. I was awake all night fighting to breath with the machine. After 30 days I felt like I was near death from exhaustion. When I stopped using it, I began to feel better. ('Course two years later I had a heart attack, CHF and VT.) I think I would have done much better if I had just lost the 30 pounds that the sleep clinic recommended. Seems as though Sleep Apnea is related to excess weight. Also of note..I videotape myself falling asleep while editing videotapes late at night and found that I 'went out' 12 times in 2 hours, never for than 5 seconds. That is what led me to have the sleep study Stu953 > lisa,,, > > i totally agree with you but what about my case,,,,the mask is absolutely > intolereable.....i just lay awake with the inside of my nose on fire... > > bob in pa > > ><>! Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 I'm also not fond of chainsaws. " going out? " Remember the story of the shoe maker and the elves? Well I began to fall alseep while video editing. I would wake up and check the scene, but it was always done correctly. I began to suspect elves were editing the tapes cause I had been asleep, so i set a trap to videotape them doing it. I video taped myself while editing...lo and behold, my eyes would droop then shut, only to pop open 3 to 5 seconds later. (I thought I had been sleeping for 15 or 20 minutes at a time.) It happened 12 times in a two hour period (often with no remembrance). Twas then that I realized that I had a problem that needed attention... For the most part, this has been a " while I am tired " problem, and does not occurr when I am well rested. To Sue, someone mentioned that they were taking trazadone. I took it along time ago and it really gave me dreamless sleep. You might ask your doctor about it... oh and hubby might want to try it too.. the side effect in men is like viagra. Only their too sleepy to do anything about it. lol > hi stu,,, > > im at a loss as to what to do..... > > the docs here in scranton put me on meds and i go to the heart failure > specialist in phila and find out the meds are either wrong or not good for > me..... > > as far as the sleep thing,,,,i wake up refreshed and only get up to use the > bathroom once or twice (and thats good for a diabetic from what im > told).... i dont feel anything and im always fresh when i wake up...... > > and you are right,,,even the sleep doc said if i lose the hundred pounds > plus id probably not have the apnea or the dependance on insulin......the > boat goes into the water later this week,,,then i start living on fruit, > and diet soda, at least four days a week, anyway.. > > ive had hodgkins disease and they had to give me adriamycin. the heart > failure guy seems to think that is what damaged the electrical system in my > heart....i had no idea i had a problem til a year ago when i was in the > hos;pital with pneumonia......i got zapped twice within a week of being out > of the hospital and not since.....my breathing is bad when i exert > myself,,,but again that is probably the weight again..... > > what did you mean by ,,,,you went out 12 times " " " i didnt understand what > you meant by that.. > > and all restrictiions have been lifted for me except for chain saws.....it > seems the vibration of them or jack hammer type machines will cause a > zap....and i dont like them........ > > bob in pa > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 hi jes,,, that was the one and only time i saw my heart failure guy in philly raise his voice or get a bit upset......his exact words were........VIOXX......THAT IS A DEFINITE NO NO........in fact he told me at first to use it every other day cause it was helping me,,,,but the next day i got a call from his nurse telling me to stop taking it altogether........ my cardio in scranton never thought of coreg til i mentioned it having read about it on the net.....the chf guy was surprirsed and glad to see me already on coreg the first time he saw me... bob in pa........(i just paid 68 bucks for a simple little fishfinder and found the transducer cable 2 feet short, had to order an extension on the net.....25 bucks plus 10 bucks shipping......they get ya one way or the other.......darn) --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 In a message dated 4/14/02 9:15:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stu953@... writes: To Sue, someone mentioned that they were taking Trazadone. I took it along time ago and it really gave me dreamless sleep. You might ask your doctor about it... oh and hubby might want to try it too.. the I have been on Trazadone for around two years, I love it, it puts me to sleep gently and for the most time I do not have a hangover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 good for you with the boat..... mine is ready to go now....just have to stop at the marina and make arrangements for them to come get it and trailer it down to the lake........ bob in pa --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Geesh Bob!!! I never heard the retention/kidney thing about Vioxx... my husband is also a CHF patient and has arthritis for which cardio started him on Vioxx while he was in hsp w/the CHF and A-fib 2 yrs ago this past Jan... because he's also on coumadin for the A-fib she stated Vioxx was the best med ... less conflict w/the blood thinner... anyway... when all the " stuff " hit the fan a little while back about Vioxx possibly causing stroke/MI we asked and she stated that because he's already on coumadin not to worry 'bout the effects of Vioxx... but she won't increase his dosage now that it's not working so well for him at 25mg X 2 ... anyway... guess I'll have to re-read the side effects 'cause I was unaware of the retention thingy \o/ JES in NJ... God Bless America > > i have severe arthritus as well (in my hips) and the docs here in scranton > prescribed vioxx. and it worked....i was pain free for about 3 > weeks.....then i went to philly to see the congestive heart > specialist....when he saw the vioxx he became real concerned....seems it > makes the kidneys want to retain water...so im off that and back to > ibuprofen (and i eat them like candy)...and now i see a law firm on tv > advertising for people that have taken vioxx to call immediately....it > never ends i guess...... > > bob in pa > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Bob.. .thx for the Vioxx info... will have to run it past cardio next visit... but hubby is doing well re:CHF... hasn't had any other 'bouts since first one back in '00... but then he does take 80mg of lasix every AM ... our Boat was launched this AM... now hubby's in Heaven once again JES in NJ God Bless America > hi jes,,, > > that was the one and only time i saw my heart failure guy in philly raise > his voice or get a bit upset......his exact words > were........VIOXX......THAT IS A DEFINITE NO NO........in fact he told me > at first to use it every other day cause it was helping me,,,,but the next > day i got a call from his nurse telling me to stop taking it altogether........ > > my cardio in scranton never thought of coreg til i mentioned it having read > about it on the net.....the chf guy was surprirsed and glad to see me > already on coreg the first time he saw me... > > bob in pa........(i just paid 68 bucks for a simple little fishfinder > and found the transducer cable 2 feet short, had to order an extension on > the net.....25 bucks plus 10 bucks shipping......they get ya one way or the > other.......darn) > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Hey Bob; When are we going fishing? TURK PS: Maybe the day i clean your house rite? let me know when you want me to come down. Re: Re: Bob: Weight Loss good for you with the boat.....mine is ready to go now....just have to stop at the marina and make arrangements for them to come get it and trailer it down to the lake........ bob in pa---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company]Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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