Re: RE: Sinus congestion/infection...

[Guest guest]

Sharon and Dan,

Thanks for the advice. I'd forgotten about the saline spray/irrigations.

Quercitin, huh? Okey dokey, sounds good. Thanks again...

J. Holzapfel, D.C.

Albany, OR.

kjholzdc@...

[Guest guest]

One of the most helpful remedies that I have run accross is " J's Nose

Drops. " This is a natural therapy for sinusitis. I am home now and the

address is at the office--will post tomorrow eve. Silver

proteinate(Argerol) on orange sticks shoved back to the post nasopharynx,

patient prone over a bowl, also works but is messy. J's is it as far as I

know. Steve Lumsden

RE: Sinus congestion/infection...

> Listmates,

> What homecare/selfcare recommendations do you make to a patient currently

> suffering from sinus congestion and/or infection. Granted, there a

> several causative factors, but from a symptomatic standpoint, what have

> you found most helpful to offer some rapid (hopefully) symptomatic relief

> as you search out the underlying causative factor(s)?

>

> J. Holzapfel, D.C.

> Albany, OR.

> kjholzdc@...

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Les...Do you make the colloidal silver yourself with one of those

generators or is it available commercially?

On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:27:49 -0800 " S. Feinberg "

<feinberg@...> writes:

> ;

> I have excellent results with patients and on myself with 10PPM

> Colloidal

> Silver, used 3x/day for a few days to a week. It is used as a

> spray, or

> drops. The patient should recline and tip the head back at an angle

> that

> causes the nasal cavity to fill without liquid going down the throat

> or out

> the nose and relax for a few minutes. The liquid works its way into

> the

> sinus cavity with a slight warmth. It can also be put in a spray

> container

> and used as a spray, but the drops method is better at getting the

> stuff

> into the sinuses. It is very effective for sinus infection, the

> earlier

> the better.

> Les

>

> At 02:30 PM 12/17/01 -0800, you wrote:

> >Listmates,

> >What homecare/selfcare recommendations do you make to a patient

> currently

> >suffering from sinus congestion and/or infection. Granted, there

> a

> >several causative factors, but from a symptomatic standpoint, what

> have

> >you found most helpful to offer some rapid (hopefully) symptomatic

> relief

> >as you search out the underlying causative factor(s)?

> >

> > J. Holzapfel, D.C.

> >Albany, OR.

> >kjholzdc@...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Nasophiliacs,

Thanks Les for the colloidal silver recipe--great alternative to

antibiotics. The J's that I recently mentioned has worked for a great many

chronic sinusitis sufferers. One can purchase the drops at:

J's Nose Drops

Box 10

Erie, Colorado 80516

1-877-667-3376

Steve Lumsden

Re: RE: Sinus congestion/infection...

> Thanks Les...Do you make the colloidal silver yourself with one of those

> generators or is it available commercially?

>

>

>

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:27:49 -0800 " S. Feinberg "

> <feinberg@...> writes:

> > ;

> > I have excellent results with patients and on myself with 10PPM

> > Colloidal

> > Silver, used 3x/day for a few days to a week. It is used as a

> > spray, or

> > drops. The patient should recline and tip the head back at an angle

> > that

> > causes the nasal cavity to fill without liquid going down the throat

> > or out

> > the nose and relax for a few minutes. The liquid works its way into

> > the

> > sinus cavity with a slight warmth. It can also be put in a spray

> > container

> > and used as a spray, but the drops method is better at getting the

> > stuff

> > into the sinuses. It is very effective for sinus infection, the

> > earlier

> > the better.

> > Les

> >

> > At 02:30 PM 12/17/01 -0800, you wrote:

> > >Listmates,

> > >What homecare/selfcare recommendations do you make to a patient

> > currently

> > >suffering from sinus congestion and/or infection. Granted, there

> > a

> > >several causative factors, but from a symptomatic standpoint, what

> > have

> > >you found most helpful to offer some rapid (hopefully) symptomatic

> > relief

> > >as you search out the underlying causative factor(s)?

> > >

> > > J. Holzapfel, D.C.

> > >Albany, OR.

> > >kjholzdc@...

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

A Testimonial...

Once upon a time I had a cold...

I recovered...

About 4 weeks later I got a bad tooth ache, it felt like I had a piece of

steak jammed between my molars I flossed and brushed and brushed and

flossed...no steak!

I was due to go to a Chiropractic seminar in Seattle I'm from Bend...

Friday, I called the dentist... he was out of town, I frantically called

around for an emergency appointment... translation: I was really concerned

about my tooth, did not want to go to seminar like this, got an appointment.

Dentist " banged " on my teeth, prodded my gums, took an x-ray...no problem

with the teeth...did you have a cold recently? Maybe its a sinus

infection...Go see the M.D. get some antibiotics...

Thanks, but no thanks, my teeth are ok? yeah.

Saturday, up at 5 a.m., drive to seminar, sit all day: noon to 8 p.m. still

miserable. After the session have a beer and " potato skins " for " dinner " in

the hotel bar...

Sunday, seminar 8 to noon, not having fun, still hurting, exhausted, blowing

my nose all the while...I've got to get adjusted before I leave for the 5-6

hour drive back...

After the seminar I ask the instructor, on, D.C., for an

adjustment...

He gives me a cervical manipulation: rotary break to the left and then to

the right, I thought my neck was going to break, he followed this with an

adjustment...

I get in the car, every 10-15 minutes between Seattle and Portland I'm

spitting copious amounts of you know what...by the time I exit I-84 to head

south to Bend a full week of congestion is gone, toothache gone, fatigue

gone...

The power of potato skins, beer and the chiropractic adjustment!!! Thanks

...

Thanks for letting me share my first personal chiropractic 'miracle'...

Mike Riemhofer

RE: Sinus congestion/infection...

> Listmates,

> What homecare/selfcare recommendations do you make to a patient currently

> suffering from sinus congestion and/or infection. Granted, there a

> several causative factors, but from a symptomatic standpoint, what have

> you found most helpful to offer some rapid (hopefully) symptomatic relief

> as you search out the underlying causative factor(s)?

>

> J. Holzapfel, D.C.

> Albany, OR.

> kjholzdc@...

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What you say is exciting. It seems to me that such a rapid and dramatic

response to what would be called a visceral condition is uncommon. I have

seen it happen periodically, one case I recall is of a woman who has severe

allergies. In fact, walnuts will kill her. Had these allergies her whole

life and came to me for a bad neck. During the history she related that her

medications were not working much anymore, the allergist was frustrated as

he was out of ideas. Well, I went ahead and treated her subluxations(like

the entire neck was locked) and she returned a couple of days later to

report that upon leaving my office that mucus began to come out of every

orifice in her head as she put it, and that her meds were working better. I

still treat her monthly after 15 years. I am sure we all have experiences

like this. I just wish we'd do more case studies and have them published.

It's an area of professional marketing and responsibility that we need to

jump on. It would also be nice to be able to have a bit more ability to

predict an outcome with visceral conditions too. Steve Lumsden

RE: Sinus congestion/infection...

>

>

> > Listmates,

> > What homecare/selfcare recommendations do you make to a patient

currently

> > suffering from sinus congestion and/or infection. Granted, there a

> > several causative factors, but from a symptomatic standpoint, what have

> > you found most helpful to offer some rapid (hopefully) symptomatic

relief

> > as you search out the underlying causative factor(s)?

> >

> > J. Holzapfel, D.C.

> > Albany, OR.

> > kjholzdc@...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ditto...

RE: Sinus congestion/infection...

> >

> >

> > > Listmates,

> > > What homecare/selfcare recommendations do you make to a patient

> currently

> > > suffering from sinus congestion and/or infection. Granted, there a

> > > several causative factors, but from a symptomatic standpoint, what

have

> > > you found most helpful to offer some rapid (hopefully) symptomatic

> relief

> > > as you search out the underlying causative factor(s)?

> > >

> > > J. Holzapfel, D.C.

> > > Albany, OR.

> > > kjholzdc@...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

No, not really. Even though testimonials are powerful marketing, I think

these cases need to be communicated in a less " carnivalish " fashion. Such

as a properly done, published in a indexed journal-type of effort. Steve

Lumsden

RE: Sinus congestion/infection...

> > >

> > >

> > > > Listmates,

> > > > What homecare/selfcare recommendations do you make to a patient

> > currently

> > > > suffering from sinus congestion and/or infection. Granted, there a

> > > > several causative factors, but from a symptomatic standpoint, what

> have

> > > > you found most helpful to offer some rapid (hopefully) symptomatic

> > relief

> > > > as you search out the underlying causative factor(s)?

> > > >

> > > > J. Holzapfel, D.C.

> > > > Albany, OR.

> > > > kjholzdc@...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >