Re: a line across the hands

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I just joined the group. I have , 8 years, with DS. Older

siblings are a sister 20, and brothers 13 and 11.

I noticed the line as soon as he was born. I knew it wasn't definitive

but I knew the odds, so I was ready a little while later when Stevie

was whisked out of the room and I was asked over to the nursery.

He had severe heart problems too, and ended up at a pediatric hospital

a few hours after that.

He's fine now though. The cardiologist always asks with a smile if

he's a pain in the butt, and we say " yes " (and he *is* a handful), and

the cardiologist says " great " . The heart repair that he had at 8

months really worked.

--Joe

Quoting Ralph & Judi Lowenthal <lowenthalrj@...>:

> The grouping is seven or more of the " classic " 50+ characteristics

> to

> make a " clinical " diagnosis. The karotype is still recommended to

> be

> sure and determine which type of T21.

>

> When Jess was born, a nurse tried to get the OB to look at the

> single

> line in one of her hands--maybe he looked at the other hand, but he

> blew

> her off and we didn't get the dx for several hours. I got the

> impression

> that for the next several days until the lab tests came in, the

> staff

> was debating the whole issue (several of them offered us their

> thoughts

> and one med student showed us the single lines in her hands and told

> us

> she didn't have ds).

>

> Looks like a standard but not required thing to me.

>

> Re: a line across the hands

>

> In a message dated Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:40:45 PM Eastern Standard

> Time,

> RSYOSH writes:

>

> > Anyway - as I understand it... ANY of the DS traits can be found

> individually

> > somewhere in the general population. It's the grouping of

> > several of them in

> > one person that make it a " syndrome "

>

> Yep and the grouping is seven or more.

> Cheryl in VA

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Bridget, 9 ds does not have the single crease.

NAncy in SC

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[Guest guest]

I remember being in hospital with tim at 20 months old and a chinese granny

looking at me somewhat perplexed by the fact that I had an obviously chinese

son and one that she was trying very hard to work out, is he isn't he (DS).

She had a grandson with ds in the bed opposite who looked very much more

obviously like he had ds than tim did at the time. One day she came over to

tims bed and was sneakily admiring him, stroking head then hands, turned

them over and exclaimed Yat yeung yat yeung (the same) pointing at her

grandson. she was dead chuffed to have made this discovery! After that she

would chatter away to me for ages oblivious to my extreme lack of cantonese!

Having tim gave us a bond! And all becoz of those single creases! Tim by

the way has around 30 of the physical signs of ds (I counted one day when I

was bored) but people still often disbelieve me.

sue wong

[Guest guest]

I can only suppose that these paediatricians had never seen an asian child

with ds becoz believe me, you can tell from their faces just as easily as

from western children, tim being one of the exceptions, his ds was 'missed'

for a month and even then they looked for it becoz of the hirshsprungs

rather than anything else. The eye position shape and size etc is not an

asian one but a ds one (if the child has this particular sign), the

epicanthic fold is an asian thing though my chinese husband doesn't have it

and neither do my two eurasian children, my chinese ds son does have it tho,

so is it from chinese or ds genes?!!!

sue wong

> When was born, the nurses told my pediatrician they detected the

> tell-tale " fat pad " on the back of her neck. My pediatrician was very

> hesitant to call it DS tho... she is half-Asian and many of the facial

> characteristics (ie epicanthal fold, eye placement, shape of face) could

be

> due to that. >

> My pediatrician told me a year later that he had a case where a single mom

> deliverd a half-Asian child at the same hospital (Cedar Sinai in LA) and

the

> genetisict on staff took one look and based on clinical observations

declared

> that the baby had DS. The karyotype came back negative.

>

> - Becky

[Guest guest]

Well, Thank you all Very much for your responses, Tayler has the eye

positioning and the smallfacial features, the brushfeild spots and nothing

else to indicate the downs, I, myself was curious to whose children had what

signs and so on. As for the people from the child developement group, I will

gladly pass on all of what I have learned from all of you. As for the

testing, Tayler was tested the day after he was born and It came back as

positive and that he was a girl, so needless to say we had to go through the

whole rigamorole again a week later. and that one came back positive with

the trisomy 21 and he was a boy. one other thing that htey told us as well

was that little boys with downs it is very hard to find their genitals and

what a mistake that wazs to tell me that as my son is very well endowed.

Well thanks once again to all of you Sherri (mom to Tayler 4 on August 13

and Cierra 2 1/2)

[Guest guest]

This is so true sometimes. is pretty darned energetic and can be a

Royal Pain at times. I just figure this makes him like most 16 year old boys.

Elaine

----- Original Message -----

Joe Kellett writes:

He's fine now though. The cardiologist always asks with a smile if

he's a pain in the butt, and we say " yes " (and he *is* a handful), and

the cardiologist says " great " . The heart repair that he had at 8

months really worked.