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Hi Marty,

My own EP's (from St Luke's Roosevelt NYC) test the device the day they put it

in, the following day and one month later. This is all done with anesthesia

and I didn't feel a thing. I think they used Versed. Now all they do is

check it out with the mouse thing at three-month intervals. I have a site up

and you may want to visit it to get a link to some other good places to visit

on the web. My URL is: http://www.geocities.com/~msleeroush

Hope this helps. Lee

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Marty, I manage a EP lab in Fl. We routinely bring people in to test there

devices post implant. There are many reasons to do this. Ask your EP what is

his reasoning. Sometimes it may be to your benefit to do this especially if

they are able to set up anti tacky pacing. Hope this helps. Makal

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lee,

Im getting a ICD tomorrow at St Lukes.. glad to see your experience was

positive.

Makes me feel a whole lot better.

david

LeeRoush@... on 03/04/99 06:58:11 PM

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Hi Marty,

My own EP's (from St Luke's Roosevelt NYC) test the device the day they put

it

in, the following day and one month later. This is all done with

anesthesia

and I didn't feel a thing. I think they used Versed. Now all they do is

check it out with the mouse thing at three-month intervals. I have a site

up

and you may want to visit it to get a link to some other good places to

visit

on the web. My URL is: http://www.geocities.com/~msleeroush

Hope this helps. Lee

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Marty:

My EP doc tests my ICD every year, to make sure that the settings are all

still correct and that nothing has changed with my heart. I have had mine

since Aug of 96, and when they test it they make sure it will still stop a

VT.

Gordon

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Marty,

Another viewpoint from Minnesota. My EP has dropped testing because he

believes the reliability is very good, and the ability to download the

information works flawlessly. He quit testing them after implantation just

before I received mine (March 98) I have a Guident/CPI unit.

Pete E

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Tony,

Thx f/comments--will print this for my EP doc! Aren't these forums great!!

Bestest, Lee

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formarty@... wrote:

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> My new EP wants to admit me into the hospital so they can test fire my ICD

which was implanted on 8/19/98. I've had it checked at three month intervals and

it appears to be fine. It has not been fired other than the day after

implanting. I called Medtronics and they said some EP's test them others don't.

They wouldn't commit themselves to an opinion as to whether or not it was

needed. Any Comments?

>

> Thanks Marty

>

Marty - I've had a Medtronic since Jan '96 and my EP who is also my

cardiologist seems to espouse the belief that real testing of the device

is superfluous because of the reliability of the ICD and the 3-4 month

computer check of same. I have met Medtronic engineers and they tend to

be quite close-lipped on cardiology opinions. It's not their

job or their business to do so. In MY opinion, real firing of the device

seems ludicrous and may indicate a basic distrust of the ICD itself or

the wiring job or both by the new EP. This is only my opinion.

Regards, Jim

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Danae & Jim

34 N Las Yucas

Green Valley AZ 85614-2612

Between Tucson & Mexico

in the Santa Cruz River Valley

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Marty . . .

I received my ICD 9/98 and have it interrogated at my EP doc's office every

3 months like most folks. I was readmitted to the hospital for test firings

12/98, which also seems pretty standard from what I hear. Just returned to

my computer a few minutes ago from a check-up & ICD interrogation with my

EP that I'd like to share with you and the rest of our group. Since I last

saw him, he has changed his opinion on the frequency of test firings (it was

90 days after implantation and then again 2 years later). He now wants all

his ICD patients to be tested annually and this was the explanation he

provided.

One of his patients who had been implanted several years earlier was due for

a test firing. The ICD appeared to be working just fine when interrogated a

week or so prior to the test showing that everything was OK. However, when

the ICD was activated in the hospital it malfunctioned as (if I understood

this correctly) a break had occurred in the coil itself which didn't show up

in the self test readout produced during the interrogation process. The doc

replaced the entire lead and sent the guy home. As they say, timing in life

is everything. Turns out the guy went into sustained VT THE NEXT WEEK !

The ICD & lead did what they were suppose to do, he survived and is just

fine. If the test firing hadn't been performed and the problem identified

and corrected, the results might have been quite different.

My doc said statistically, the chances of this happening are very small (he

indicated that he had become aware of at least one other similar incident),

but at least for now it is his intention to test each of his patients

yearly. Also to echo what Lee said, when I was tested they used Versed. I

was completely out and didn't feel a thing. Being tested once a year seems

reasonably to me to ensure functionality. Especially if the

self-test/interrogation can't tell the entire story.

Tony

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> Subject: ICD test

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> My new EP wants to admit me into the hospital so they can test fire my ICD

> which was implanted on 8/19/98. I've had it checked at three month

> intervals and it appears to be fine. It has not been fired other than the

> day after implanting. I called Medtronics and they said some EP's test

> them others don't. They wouldn't commit themselves to an opinion as to

> whether or not it was needed. Any Comments?

>

> Thanks Marty

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I've been reading these posts regarding annual " test firings " with great

interest. I've had an ICD (CPI/Guidant) for 8 years, have it

interrogated every 3 months, and my EP doc has never mentioned having

annual " test firing " . I would really like to know how many others in our

group have this procedure every year. I have an appt. the 17th with my

EP doc, and I'm certainly going to mention it to him. Anita from NC

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I have an appt. the 17th with my

> EP doc, and I'm certainly going to mention it to him. Anita from NC

>

>What did your EP say about a test firing?

Marty Alpert

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Marty -- I'm embarrassed. I failed to mention this to my EP tech last

week. It really slipped my mind. I had spoken to a couple of people

about this at the time of our discussion, one of whom is my daughter.

She's a cardiac RN who works with telemetry/monitored patients, and she

had never heard of this kind of " test firing " being done on a routine

basis. A couple of fellow ICDers in my area knew nothing about it

either. I've had an ICD for 8 years, been " shocked " 3 times, but never

had anything but " every 3 month " routine interrogation of the device.

Hope you are doing well. Anita

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