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In a message dated 07-Sep-00 11:56:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

stormbacon@... writes:

<< One reason your body tells you to

hold your breath while engaging in a heavy lift is

that it dramatically increases intra-thoracic

pressure, which supports the spine quite well,

especially while doing full body movements such as

squats, power cleans, deadlifts, etc. >>

WOW. This is good stuff. Thanks for sharing it with us. Learn something new

everyday.

Reminds me of the guys who do the deadlift in the Olympics. (there I go

again! LOVE THE GAMES!)

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In a message dated 07-Sep-00 11:56:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

stormbacon@... writes:

<< One reason your body tells you to

hold your breath while engaging in a heavy lift is

that it dramatically increases intra-thoracic

pressure, which supports the spine quite well,

especially while doing full body movements such as

squats, power cleans, deadlifts, etc. >>

WOW. This is good stuff. Thanks for sharing it with us. Learn something new

everyday.

Reminds me of the guys who do the deadlift in the Olympics. (there I go

again! LOVE THE GAMES!)

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Roy wrote:

> I have a friend who has studied and taught yoga for over 30 years.

> He has also researched its history and found that yoga breathing

> techniques are a relatively new practise. He is critical of many of

> the breathing exercises taught in yoga. The earliest text he could

> find spoke only of the 'correct attitude' toward breathing and not

> of specific techniques!

Frost wrote:

He's wrong. Maybe he should have looked a little bit harder then =).

Specific Breathing techniques and exercises have been an integral

part of various systems of yoga for the past 5,000 years. Just to

give one example; Hatha yoga (and its myriad of derivatives) has

focused immensely on specific breathing exercises (pranayama) for

centuries and the importance of said techniques are stated

in the Yoga Sutras of Pantanjali.

***I think it depends on your definition of a 'breathing exercises/

techniques' and the reason for doing these exercises. The correct

attitude to breathing was attained by performing certain techniques

that were not taught until years of study and practice. Even then

they were taught under the guidance of an experienced guru on an

individual basis.

This is not so today! Exercises are often performed with a view to

improving the 'part' beiog worked. My understanding is that only

after years of study could the pupil appreciate that

enlightenment/improvement occurs due to the act of performing these

techniques with the right attitude and not simply due to the

technique alone.

How many novices practising yoga breathing exercises would have this

level of understanding? It is too easy to see the means as an end in

itself.

Roy Palmer

Bedford

UK

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Roy Palmer wrote:

> How many novices practising yoga breathing exercises would have this

> level of understanding? It is too easy to see the means as an end in

> itself.

Well.. many breathing techniques & pranayama exercises were progressive,

meaning that basic techniques were given and then as the student progressed

more and more advanced methods were taught. Traditional Yoga (in its

various forms) is all but dead in the modern world. Now it is seen as either

a " cure all " or a way to simply increase flexibility etc. In other words its

true meaning and application has been distorted to fit in with the " new

agey " in vogue lifestyle.

Most Yoga being taught in the U.S, parts of Europe

and even in India is watered down crapola, a mere shadow of what it once

was....and it is a true shame. I do agree that these breathing exercises and

methods have not been written down to be distributed to a mass audience

until relatively recently but they have always existed. I too am somewhat

critical of certain breathing methods, they are good for a particular

application but much of what one reads is sheer nonsense.

I read in New Agey magazines and flyers (usually pushing the latest retreat for

instant enlightenment costing a few thousand dollars, btw) all the time of

children

supposedly breathing " right " etc. but Dr. Siff correctly pointed out the myth

behind belly

breathing in a previous post.

Another great myth I hear is how " We in the USA breathe in our chests, we should

learn to breath from our tummies " (I'm paraphrasing but you get the idea).. well

I

don't think that upper respiratory breathing is restricted to the United States

and the notion that

Asians have a monopoly on the proper way of breathing, eating etc. rather

insults my intelligence. Upper respiratory breathing is quite natural and it

is sheer lunacy to think we can somehow train our bodies to breath from the

stomach without a conscious effort . It is natural for people to breathe

differently at different times according to oxygen requirements etc.

Thanks & take care,

Frost

Taunton,MA

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Too funny

Good for you!! When you start looking hot they will want to know what you are

doing

Blessings

R

proper breathing

Hey fellow lifelifters!

How is everyone?? I just joined this list a couple of days ago but

just had an " awakening " if you will....

I have been doing lifelift for about a month now. haven't really

lost any inches other than my tummy tightening (which is wonderful

of course!) but have lost a few pounds since starting.

You know how every now and then when doing the workout, Rashelle will

let out a really loud, resounding PAHHHHHHHH, that kind of squeaks a

little? Well, I noticed that never happened to me....EVER. I

couldn't even force that sound.

Today I was sitting in my office thinking about that when my mind

drifted from work and it occurred to me.... " sniff up as if you had a

runny nose " . The light came on. I have been breathing in as much

air as I possibly could, but my tummy wasn't filling, my chest was.

I think I have been making it more complicated than it should be

because I figured if a little air is good, LOTS of air must be best!

I definitely think I have been putting in unnecessary overtime and

probably stressing myself out.

So, I did a breath just like she says....as if I had a runny nose and

BING! I let out a loud PAHHHHHHH, squeaks and all. So loud, people

outside my office turned around and looked at me like I was crazy!

But I don't care....I've just been enlightened!

The way I've been doing it, it would take several breaths before I

would get that endorphin high (which was probably happening

with " accidental " correct breaths). This one happened quite

instantaneously. My brain is awake and I'm ready to start the day!

Only....it's almost over, but that's okay too!

Just a thought for someone who maybe isn't getting the benefit they

think they should be. You just MIGHT not be breathing right!

What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything!

See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best!

http://www.oxygenzoo.com

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Hello Devirre,

It is so great to hear that you are doing so well with your LifeLift breaths.

Your enthusiasm is wonderful!

Be Healthy and take good care,

Rashelle

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proper breathing

Hey fellow lifelifters!

How is everyone?? I just joined this list a couple of days ago but

just had an " awakening " if you will....

I have been doing lifelift for about a month now. haven't really

lost any inches other than my tummy tightening (which is wonderful

of course!) but have lost a few pounds since starting.

You know how every now and then when doing the workout, Rashelle will

let out a really loud, resounding PAHHHHHHHH, that kind of squeaks a

little? Well, I noticed that never happened to me....EVER. I

couldn't even force that sound.

Today I was sitting in my office thinking about that when my mind

drifted from work and it occurred to me.... " sniff up as if you had a

runny nose " . The light came on. I have been breathing in as much

air as I possibly could, but my tummy wasn't filling, my chest was.

I think I have been making it more complicated than it should be

because I figured if a little air is good, LOTS of air must be best!

I definitely think I have been putting in unnecessary overtime and

probably stressing myself out.

So, I did a breath just like she says....as if I had a runny nose and

BING! I let out a loud PAHHHHHHH, squeaks and all. So loud, people

outside my office turned around and looked at me like I was crazy!

But I don't care....I've just been enlightened!

The way I've been doing it, it would take several breaths before I

would get that endorphin high (which was probably happening

with " accidental " correct breaths). This one happened quite

instantaneously. My brain is awake and I'm ready to start the day!

Only....it's almost over, but that's okay too!

Just a thought for someone who maybe isn't getting the benefit they

think they should be. You just MIGHT not be breathing right!

What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything!

See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best!

http://www.oxygenzoo.com

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