Weight gain- Milk, butter,cream and eggs

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Was curious how much milk, butter, cream and eggs does everyone

consume on a daily basis?

-Vee

[Guest guest]

Vee-

No milk, anywhere from no butter up to, I don't know, half a pound, six

eggs, anywhere from no cream up to a quart.

>Was curious how much milk, butter, cream and eggs does everyone

>consume on a daily basis?

-

[Guest guest]

--- In , " opalv214 " <opalv@h...>

wrote:

> Hi All,

> Was curious how much milk, butter, cream and eggs does everyone

> consume on a daily basis?

> -Vee

NOne - I appear to have an intolerance to dairy - not sure what part

of it, but I feel better without it, even though I LOVE butter, cream

and yoghurt! I certainly miss them...

Jo

[Guest guest]

> Hi All,

> Was curious how much milk, butter, cream and eggs does everyone

> consume on a daily basis?

> -Vee

Milk: (raw) a pint to a quart

Butter: from none to couple of tablespoons a day (+ coconut oil)

Cream: maybe a couple of tablespoons a day along with 4-6 oz. of kefir (in

smoothie)

Eggs: usually 1 raw, then 1 boiled, scrambled or in pancakes or bread

Anybody else get a " buzz " from eating raw eggs??

-

[Guest guest]

eggs are the item listed here that i eat the most of....some weeks i have eaten

eggs 3 or 4 mornings and i usually eat two of them at a time.

i don't drink any milk. i eat butter maybe once every few days (probably1-2

tbsp. per week right now). i do not eat cream...i would if i could get anything

of any quality whatsoever. dh once made a cream of tomato soup---it was

delicious but the cream (from organic valley) was ultrapasteurized so i don't

think we'll make a staple out of that! the farm is much too far for me to go

since dairy is not a big part of our lives. i do eat yogurt occassionally. and

cheese occassionally.

heather

opalv214 <opalv@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Was curious how much milk, butter, cream and eggs does everyone

consume on a daily basis?

-Vee

[Guest guest]

Vee

As a family of 2 adults, 3 children (ages 1 to 6), we would consume each

week - 20 litres of raw milk (7 litres as Kefir), 3 dozen eggs, 660ml of

raw cream (would eat more if it wasn't so expensive), 2kg of yoghurt/quark,

400g of cheese, 300g butter. So divide all those by 7 for daily consumption.

Wes

Weight gain- Milk, butter,cream and eggs

> Hi All,

> Was curious how much milk, butter, cream and eggs does everyone

> consume on a daily basis?

> -Vee

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , heather coy <hjillcoy@y...>

wrote:

>it was delicious but the cream (from organic valley) was

ultrapasteurized so i don't think we'll make a staple out of that!

the farm is much too far for me to go since dairy is not a big part

of our lives. i do eat yogurt occassionally. and cheese

occassionally.

>

> heather

,

Organic Valley does have a pint size cream that is only pasteurized

which some stores carry -- the half pint is always ultra-pasteurized,

the pint is pasteurized -- go figure! It's much better than the

ultra, and is what I used before I found my raw source. From the

color in the summer you can at least see they are grass fed.

Ann

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Braun " <paul@a...>

wrote:

>>

> Anybody else get a " buzz " from eating raw eggs??

>

>

Only when I'm licking out the bowl of a chocolate cake mix which uses

raw eggs!

Jo

[Guest guest]

>>Anybody else get a " buzz " from eating raw eggs??

>>

>>

i recently started drinking " egg nog " -raw milk, raw eggs, vanilla extract,

little maple syrup- for breakfast. the first few times i drank it i did get a

funny, buzz feeling and then drowsy. but it passed w/in minutes and now i don't

even notice it. i must have built up a tolerance :-)

-beverly )

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/16/03 1:41:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

opalv@... writes:

> Was curious how much milk, butter, cream and eggs does everyone

> consume on a daily basis?

About 3 eggs, 1-2 quarts of kefir which is made from half milk and half

cream, which would make for 2 cups to 1 quart of milk and 2 cups to one quart of

cream, when I have cheese I sometimes eat a half pound but that generally

displaces meat, and meat displaces the cheese on other days, several times a

week I

have about a cup of whipped cream with berries for dessert, which is about a

half cup of unwhipped cream, and butter depends on what I eat-- if I have a

piece or two of bread I eat 4-6 tablespoons, if I have mashed potatoes at one

meal, I use about 4 tbsp in them, but if I have fried potatoes I use lard, which

would displace some of the butter. All in all about 2-8 tbsp a day butter.

Chris

[Guest guest]

Litres? Milliliters? Ack! I feel like I'm in chemistry class... there is

no escape... not even online...

Now let's calculate the molar mass of your milk!

;-)

Chris

In a message dated 7/16/03 5:31:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wes@...

writes:

> As a family of 2 adults, 3 children (ages 1 to 6), we would consume each

> week - 20 litres of raw milk (7 litres as Kefir), 3 dozen eggs, 660ml of

> raw cream (would eat more if it wasn't so expensive), 2kg of yoghurt/quark,

> 400g of cheese, 300g butter. So divide all those by 7 for daily consumption.

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/18/03 6:40:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

editor@... writes:

> >About 3 eggs...

> [fat/protein laundry list snipped ]

>

> Wow. Is this average for you guys? I don't think I'm eating anywhere

> near that. I've been working on getting more veg in my diet for fear

> I'm going to load up too much on fat/protein and not get enough

> veggies. Plus I haven't had much appetite lately.

I eat 3 or 4 a day. Depends on what else I have. If I don't have anything

convenient to bring for lunch, I hard boil eggs. I've eaten 9 eggs a day

before, and once I think I even ate 11. I would expect a woman to average less.

I

suggest eating at least a couple a day. I think they're good for mental

health.

Chris

[Guest guest]

> About 3 eggs...

[fat/protein laundry list snipped ]

Wow. Is this average for you guys? I don't think I'm eating anywhere

near that. I've been working on getting more veg in my diet for fear

I'm going to load up too much on fat/protein and not get enough

veggies. Plus I haven't had much appetite lately.

Lynn S.

-----

Lynn Siprelle * Writer, Mother, Programmer, Fiber Artisan

The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/

Siprelle & Associates: http://www.siprelle.com/

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/18/03 8:39:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

editor@... writes:

> I didn't mean eggs specifically, I meant the whole shebang. I don't

> think I eat half that much fat/protein. I haven't had much appetite

> lately, though. For lunch today nothing sounded good so I had some

> beef/lamb bone broth with some homegrown zucchini and green beans, some

> lime juice and a big pat of butter. It was so delicious and refreshing,

> even on a horrid hot day like today. Now I know what to have when

> nothing sounds good.

>

Oh, ok. Well I bet I eat a lot more in general than you do, since I eat more

than most people especially women. So I certainly wouldn't expect everyone

else to eat that much. Also, everyone needs to find their own balance of

fat/protein/carbs.

I haven't had much for plant products today, mostly because I'm out of plants

right now. I had some steamed sprouts and carrots for breakfast with butter.

I brought some raw carrots to work for lunch, but I got an allergic reaction

after a few bites, so I didn't eat them, and just had cheese, half cream half

milk kefir, and ate some butter that I'd brought to spread on the carrots. I

was going to have meat for dinner but it wasn't done thawing so I more or

less skipped dinner. My diet's been probably 95% dairy today.

But on a typical day I'll eat a good amount of salad, and often kale.

Sometimes I eat a quart of salad with a meal, with 4-6 tbsp olive oil and some

raw

ACV. I also try to eat some lacto-fermented veggies, mostly sauerkraut or

kimchi, with every meal, but I often run out and don't get around to making more

right away. But fat is the foundation of every meal for me.

My philosophy is to only eat one plate full of food at a time (you can

violate this with salad, since it takes up so much room ;-) ), and top the rest

off

with fat, so that you get full for a minimum of 4 hours.

Chris

[Guest guest]

> I eat 3 or 4 a day. Depends on what else I have. If I don't have

> anything

> convenient to bring for lunch, I hard boil eggs. I've eaten 9 eggs a

> day

> before, and once I think I even ate 11. I would expect a woman to

> average less. I

> suggest eating at least a couple a day. I think they're good for

> mental

> health.

I didn't mean eggs specifically, I meant the whole shebang. I don't

think I eat half that much fat/protein. I haven't had much appetite

lately, though. For lunch today nothing sounded good so I had some

beef/lamb bone broth with some homegrown zucchini and green beans, some

lime juice and a big pat of butter. It was so delicious and refreshing,

even on a horrid hot day like today. Now I know what to have when

nothing sounds good.

Lynn S.

-----

Lynn Siprelle * Writer, Mother, Programmer, Fiber Artisan

The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/

Siprelle & Associates: http://www.siprelle.com/

[Guest guest]

>

> sounds more like a blood sugar crash from the maple syrup than a

raw egg

> buzz...

>

> chris

>

>

really? i didn't think i was using that much maple syrup. though i am

new to this and still naive. i've been using 1/8 cup maple syrup w/ 3

cups milk and 3-4 eggs. this is split between 3 people. actually, the

first day i made the nog i used even less maple syrup and still had a

reaction, but i don't get it anymore. maybe my body was going into

shock, its not used to breakfast.

thanks for you feedback!

beverly

[Guest guest]

>> I didn't mean eggs specifically, I meant the whole shebang. I don't

>> think I eat half that much fat/protein. I haven't had much appetite

>> lately, though. For lunch today nothing sounded good so I had some

>> beef/lamb bone broth with some homegrown zucchini and green beans, some

>> lime juice and a big pat of butter. It was so delicious and refreshing,

>> even on a horrid hot day like today. Now I know what to have when

>> nothing sounds good.

I think how much you need REALLY varies from person to person,

and maybe daily for the same person. I tend to gain weight, and I

tend to " overindulge " and regret it later, so I use the Cliff Sheats/Body

for Life kind of portion control: 4 oz meat, x amount starch, and a mess

of vegies (all I want). I eat most of my starch in the morning, for

breakfast, and eat less for lunch and generally none for dinner,

then a few crackers before I go to bed with some lox or whatever

to help me sleep.

Between meals I've been snacking on fruit --

right now, tons of blueberries (I just love fresh blueberries!). Like

I have some probiotics with every meal, kimchi in my case.

As an experiment I've been avoiding dairy except kefir and butter. I have

good eggs and I use them a lot in the summer in big huge salads

(with oil and lots of garlic).

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

>

> lately I've been experiencing this type of crash after consuming

creme fraiche [40% fat] and raw double [heavy] cream [48% fat I

think].. don't know what to make of it... the above are occasional

treats as I eat very little dairy... in the past these crashes used

to come after eating a carb rich meal so no surprise there... called

them 'my semi-coma- crash', they'd last 15-20 minutes but now...???

this is happening with high-fat cream!?

> ... my current nutritional puzzle...

>

Dedy

What have you been eating with the creme fraiche and cream?

Jo

[Guest guest]

> << Dedy

> What have you been eating with the creme fraiche and cream?

> Jo >>

>

> Strawberries with the double cream and I can't remember what I had

with the creme fraiche... both were consumed at the end of the

meal...

>

Dedy,

Could be the fruit making you bloat, not the cream. I steer clear of

fruit when I can, even though I love it. Love cream as well, but

can't eat dairy :-(

Jo

[Guest guest]

> Jo,

> bloating is not a problem... I just go into a semi-comatose state..

looks like I'm asleep but am not... it's as if all my energy has been

sapped away.. after about 15-20 minutes I recover as if nothing has

happened... I suspect it's a reaction to cow's milk as it doesn't

seem to happen when I eat goat's or sheep's milk products... thing is

it doesn't always happen... go figure! [i certainly haven't yet!]

>

Dedy

Are you sure it's not a reaction to the fruit? What it you eat

strawbs on their own or the cream on it's own?

Jo

[Guest guest]

> Jo,

> strawberries on their own are fine... never had a problem... cream

on it's own will do it but not always which is why it puzzles me.. no

fruit on it's own ever gave me problems yet after some meals [small

or large] I get this semi-coma 'thing' happening.... I know Heidi

would advise to keep a food diary... haven't mustered the discipline

to do it [yet!]

>

Then I have no further idea! lol! Except to say keeping a food

diary is a great idea, so you can identify whether or not it truly is

the cream

Jo

[Guest guest]

Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Hard to keep up with emails with

3 kids in tow. We are in Australia and don't use your measurments but will

give it a try to convert.

2 to 3 quarts daily milk half of which is kefir smoothies with 1/4 cup cream

and 1/4 cup coconut cream and sometimes tblspn butter added.

1 to 2 cups of yoghurt between us (usually the kids eat all the yoghurt)

1/2 cups of cheese (best conversion I could find)

couple of tablespoons of butter if we can each daily

cook with ghee and save chicken fat and tallow from stocks to use

approx 1 egg each daily

All dairy is raw

We also eat loads of meat with loads of fat

We still feel we don't eat enough fat and are having trouble converting to

red meat - although we love it, it is causing heat problems (urinary and

genital heat) probably need to eat more raw.

hope this helps

Wes

Re: Weight gain- Milk, butter,cream and eggs

> Litres? Milliliters? Ack! I feel like I'm in chemistry class... there

is

> no escape... not even online...

>

> Now let's calculate the molar mass of your milk!

>

> ;-)

>

> Chris

>

> In a message dated 7/16/03 5:31:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

wes@...

> writes:

>

> > As a family of 2 adults, 3 children (ages 1 to 6), we would consume each

> > week - 20 litres of raw milk (7 litres as Kefir), 3 dozen eggs, 660ml

of

> > raw cream (would eat more if it wasn't so expensive), 2kg of

yoghurt/quark,

> > 400g of cheese, 300g butter. So divide all those by 7 for daily

consumption.

>

>

> " To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we

are

> to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

> servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Wes!

I was just making a joke actually, though it is easier to picture in my head

with our measurements. :-)

Chris

In a message dated 8/3/03 9:22:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wes@...

writes:

> Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Hard to keep up with emails with

> 3 kids in tow. We are in Australia and don't use your measurments but will

> give it a try to convert.

>

> 2 to 3 quarts daily milk half of which is kefir smoothies with 1/4 cup cream

> and 1/4 cup coconut cream and sometimes tblspn butter added.

> 1 to 2 cups of yoghurt between us (usually the kids eat all the yoghurt)

> 1/2 cups of cheese (best conversion I could find)

> couple of tablespoons of butter if we can each daily

> cook with ghee and save chicken fat and tallow from stocks to use

> approx 1 egg each daily

> All dairy is raw

> We also eat loads of meat with loads of fat

> We still feel we don't eat enough fat and are having trouble converting to

> red meat - although we love it, it is causing heat problems (urinary and

> genital heat) probably need to eat more raw.

>

> hope this helps

>

> Wes

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt