Re: Need for water; was Vitamins in food.

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Christie wrote:

>>>It says in the Atkins book to drink 8 glasses of 8 oz of water. That seems

like a lot of water to me. I'm lucky to get about 2 glasses down in a day. How

important is all that water to the induction part of the diet? Just too hard to

do for my friend. <<

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> Personally, I think it's essential in ANY weight loss program to drink plenty

of water.

Actually, drinking plenty of water is essential for health even if you are not

on a weight loss diet. 8 glasses of 8 oz is a standard amount pretty much

everybody seems to recommend, alternative and mainstream health practitioners.

See http://www.mercola.com/2003/may/7/water.htm, http://www.watercure2.com/, and

http://www.watercure.com/

Roman

[Guest guest]

In NT Sally points out that Oriental Medicine discourages drinking

that much water as it's hard on the kidneys. She also recommend

taking your fluids other ways (fermented beverages, or even squeezing

some lemon in your water) not just plain water.

> >>>It says in the Atkins book to drink 8 glasses of 8 oz of water.

That seems like a lot of water to me. I'm lucky to get about 2

glasses down in a day. How important is all that water to the

induction part of the diet? Just too hard to do for my friend. <<

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> >

> > Personally, I think it's essential in ANY weight loss program to

drink plenty of water.

>

> Actually, drinking plenty of water is essential for health even if

you are not on a weight loss diet. 8 glasses of 8 oz is a standard

amount pretty much everybody seems to recommend, alternative and

mainstream health practitioners. See

http://www.mercola.com/2003/may/7/water.htm,

http://www.watercure2.com/, and http://www.watercure.com/

>

> Roman

[Guest guest]

The 8x8 water recommendation (8 glasses of 8ozs) was first published in

the 1940s and the study said that it included water in food. Over the

years the food part has been droped for convenience.. but it's certainly

possible to get 8x8 water just by eating alone. Water is water if it comes

from food or in a glass, and food is for the most part is mostly water.

http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/deanfulltexttopics.cfm?id=47420

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[Guest guest]

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> It may all be so, or Sally got something wrong, or Oriental medicine

got it wrong, or it's just one element in that system taken in

isolation, which can lead to misunderstanding. Whatever anyone has

said, how do you reconcile that with definite improvement of health

and plain feeling of wellbeing that people experience by drinking

about 8x8 or more water? For example, I know someone who has

practically cured his asthma by drinking about half a gallon of water

daily.

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> Roman

I don't know. I personally don't feel good drinking that much water,

it makes me feel bloated. Maybe my kidneys aren't up to par, or maybe

it's because I only weigh 111 lb and am small boned. Maybe people with

'denser' body mass need more water. I'm curious, if it's not too

personal a question... how often do people drinking 1/2 gallon

urinate? How much peeing is considered healthy by those making the 8

glasses a day recommendation? It seems to me any doctor making that

recommendation (and many do) what want to know if it was causing the

patient to pee excessively, and weigh the benefits against the

potential harm.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm new to this group and have been mostly just lurking and absorbing

all the good info here. Whenever there is something I feel like

commenting on, it's usually said before I have the chance.

On this water issue tho, there is a good complementary book to NT, Eat

Fat, Look Thin by Bruce Fife, ND. It's about the coconut oil diet, but

that is really only a part of the book. 2/3 of the book is about

nutrition and the reasons we are fat and in poor health. (the food

industry and it's lies) There is a good chapter on water and how most

of us are really slightly dehydrated most of the time. Lots of ills

could be cured just by drinking more water. His recommendations are 1

lt/ 50 lbs of body weight/ day. More if it's hot or you are doing

strenuous work.

Last weekend I was at a 3 day conference, sitting all day. I didn't

get to drink as much as I should have, only about 1/2-2/3. I did feel

achier and had a headache by the end. Monday I was telling a friend

about the NT way of eatting and she too was at the conference and

didn't get enough to drink and mentioned a backache and her ulcer

acting up.

Dr Fife does mention that since most water is so treated and no

longer has much of the natural minerals, you need to up your sea salt

intake to account for the salt lost thru sweat and urine. So drink

your water.

> In a message dated 7/3/03 7:51:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> s.fisher22@v... writes:

>

> > ---------> my understanding is that drinking a lot of water WITH meals

> > *dilutes* HCl. how could it not? better to drink kombucha, beet

kvass or the

> > like, WITH meals, i'd think.

>

> Just to clarify what I said about hydronium ions before, since I

looked it

> up, HCl will *always* form hydronium ions when dissolved in water.

*however*

> this does not affect the acidity of the H+ ion very much. Usually

because of

> its strong attraction it is associated with a large number of water

molecules

> attached to it. But if you add aqueous HCl (which necessarily

exists as

> hydronium ions and Cl- ions) to a base, it still reacts.

>