Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 >has anyone ever had your bacon mold? i just opened my bacon, which has been >in my fridge for a week or two, and there's greenish mold on the edge of it. >is this a type of mold to avoid? > >Suze Fisher Don't quote me on this, but here is the story from my family: During the Civil War, the ^ & (* & ^ Yankees were raiding the houses for food. They raided my great-?-grandparent's farm. There was a " country ham " hanging in the barn -- the Yanks took all the food they could find, but they left the ham, because it was covered in mold. The family just laughed and laughed about that (after the Yanks left) because of course everyone knows that a good country ham is coated in mold ... they lived off that ham for a good bit, too. I have no idea how to tell " good " mold from bad mold. The folks making cheese (Dom's site) don't seem to worry about it much, and Dom seems to think most of the molds are penicillin types. You don't seem to hear about a lot of " mold poisoning " though -- I know I eat it a good deal when I accidentally get a moldy berry. I don't know if I could eat moldy bacon though. Good research project ... -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Yes the bacon had mold in the 1800's, but well cured and they mostly scraped the mold off of it. No raw pork please. too many tiny little nasty worms in Pork. Things that could cause problems that never go away. On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:00:27 -0400 " Braun " <paul@...> writes: > Not that TV is reality, but PBS had the " frontier " reality show where > people > were living " in " 1850 and the food was authentic - the slab of pork > definitely had mold on it - they (the show's producers) explained > that was > normal. > > Nobody here eats raw bacon right?? > > - > > Re: moldy bacon > > > > > > >has anyone ever had your bacon mold? i just opened my bacon, > which has > been > > >in my fridge for a week or two, and there's greenish mold on the > edge of > it. > > >is this a type of mold to avoid? > > > > > >Suze Fisher > > > > - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Not that TV is reality, but PBS had the " frontier " reality show where people were living " in " 1850 and the food was authentic - the slab of pork definitely had mold on it - they (the show's producers) explained that was normal. Nobody here eats raw bacon right?? - Re: moldy bacon > > >has anyone ever had your bacon mold? i just opened my bacon, which has been > >in my fridge for a week or two, and there's greenish mold on the edge of it. > >is this a type of mold to avoid? > > > >Suze Fisher - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 > Not that TV is reality, but PBS had the " frontier " reality show where > people > were living " in " 1850 1883, to be exact. " Frontier House " --I LOVED that show!! I've got the DVDs on my wish list at Amazon. > and the food was authentic - the slab of pork > definitely had mold on it - they (the show's producers) explained that > was > normal. It was green as an avocado and looked unappetizing, but I guess they ate it. Gordon, the exec from CA, was all pissed off because they wouldn't let the people hunt, and he was right; if the show were authentic those folks would have been hunting every day. But I guess the show was set on a nature preserve or something and there was no hunting allowed. Silly, really. A local Native American did bring them a deer and showed them how to skin it and prepare it, but I can't remember whether that was during their learning period or when they were actually out on their own. Did you see the ian one, " 1900 House " ? The wife was a vegetarian, and trying to feed the family vegetarian in a 1900 world was challenging at best. The local butcher came by with a basket of stunningly gorgeous meat to show her and she nearly passed out with disgust. When he got back to the shop the butcher tsked that she was going to have a hard time keeping her family alive on what passed for veg in those days, especially considering the hard work they would be doing. She did, too; her little boy didn't eat for something like a week and got paler and paler...Interestingly, the one thing they discovered they couldn't live without was shampoo! They violated the rules and bought a bottle and had a luxurious hair wash before pouring the remainder down the sink. I'm looking forward to " Colonial House, " when they take a bunch of folks back to a town-like existence circa 1690. Now THAT's going to be cool! Lynn S. ----- Lynn Siprelle * Writer, Mother, Programmer, Fiber Artisan The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/ Siprelle & Associates: http://www.siprelle.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 > Gordon, the exec from CA, was all pissed off because they > wouldn't let the people hunt, and he was right; if the show were > authentic those folks would have been hunting every day. Hard to live in -old world- reality and not eat what you kill ... It was cool watching those people adapt. I liked the walking through the snow - half a mile, in skirts - to milk a cow! Those young girls had a life changing experience, being on that show. They'll appreciate it when they're our age !! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I wonder about the mold thing also. My husband ate some sprouted bread from the cupboard last week and had a bad stomach ache that night. Next morning he took out the last piece of bread and it was covered in mold. He thinks the other bread was moldy now too. I really avoid mold now (espcially brown spots on bananas) but only because after my fil and sil came down with cancer I did lots of reading and in the cure for all cancers she told " cancer patients " to avoid all mold because their immune systems are so comprimised. I figured it wouldn't hurt to be more careful about mold after that, not knowing for sure. I'm not saying it *should* be avoided, just that it probably does cause a reaction in the immune system and I suppose someone *with* health problems(not me or my family) might want to steer clear just to be on the safe side. I just do it cause having the cancer in the family has made me a *freak* about nutrition. Maybe I'm overdoing it with the mold aversion, but I don't think it will hurt to avoid it either. Michele in WA I have no idea how to tell " good " mold from bad mold. The folks making cheese (Dom's site) don't seem to worry about it much, and Dom seems to think most of the molds are penicillin types. You don't seem to hear about a lot of " mold poisoning " though -- I know I eat it a good deal when I accidentally get a moldy berry. I don't know if I could eat moldy bacon though. Good research project ... -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 I loved Frontier House! I didn't like 1900 house. First off I thought it was stupid to pick a vegetarian family if that was not likely to be the case in 1900. Secondly it seemed that they were always whining. Lack of animal fats I presume. The one I found really interesting is the other edwardian one, " Manor House " . The cook had a bit of a snit because he felt the the lord of the house was cheating with his meal choices. Seems that edwardians were fond of odd cuts of meat and the food was often rotting by the time they ate it. To show his (the cooks) displeasure, one night he ignored the request of the head of the house and served roast hogs head to the family and guests, which I guess would be quite authentic for the time. The family was not pleased. Great entertainment! The most amazing partto me though was how people fell into their roles. The lady of the house, who in real life is an ER doctor, talked about how easy entertaining was there. It was a pleasure she said seemingly oblivious to the fact that there were a dozen people working 16 grueling hours a day to make the parties happen! Irene At 01:15 PM 7/16/03, you wrote: > > Not that TV is reality, but PBS had the " frontier " reality show where > > people > > were living " in " 1850 > >1883, to be exact. " Frontier House " --I LOVED that show!! I've got the >DVDs on my wish list at Amazon. > > > and the food was authentic - the slab of pork > > definitely had mold on it - they (the show's producers) explained that > > was > > normal. > >It was green as an avocado and looked unappetizing, but I guess they >ate it. Gordon, the exec from CA, was all pissed off because they >wouldn't let the people hunt, and he was right; if the show were >authentic those folks would have been hunting every day. But I guess >the show was set on a nature preserve or something and there was no >hunting allowed. Silly, really. A local Native American did bring them >a deer and showed them how to skin it and prepare it, but I can't >remember whether that was during their learning period or when they >were actually out on their own. > >Did you see the ian one, " 1900 House " ? The wife was a vegetarian, >and trying to feed the family vegetarian in a 1900 world was >challenging at best. The local butcher came by with a basket of >stunningly gorgeous meat to show her and she nearly passed out with >disgust. When he got back to the shop the butcher tsked that she was >going to have a hard time keeping her family alive on what passed for >veg in those days, especially considering the hard work they would be >doing. She did, too; her little boy didn't eat for something like a >week and got paler and paler...Interestingly, the one thing they >discovered they couldn't live without was shampoo! They violated the >rules and bought a bottle and had a luxurious hair wash before pouring >the remainder down the sink. > >I'm looking forward to " Colonial House, " when they take a bunch of >folks back to a town-like existence circa 1690. Now THAT's going >to be cool! > >Lynn S. > >----- >Lynn Siprelle * Writer, Mother, Programmer, Fiber Artisan >The New Homemaker: <http://www.newhomemaker.com/>http://www.newhomemaker.com/ >Siprelle & Associates: <http://www.siprelle.com/>http://www.siprelle.com/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 > has anyone ever had your bacon mold? i just opened my bacon, > which has been in my fridge for a week or two, and there's > greenish mold on the edge of it. I'm reminded of the joke: Red meat isn't bad for you. Blue-green fuzzy meat is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 I believe there is a kind of bread mold that is dangerous. I believe it is the black mold that is particularly bad for us. However, I don't think that is a kind of mold that grows on meat. Assuming the mold on your bacon is the same mold that our ancestors were so blase about on their ham, then it's probably fine. Ghislaine Lover of blue cheese > I wonder about the mold thing also. My husband ate some sprouted bread from the cupboard last week and had a bad stomach ache that night. Next morning he took out the last piece of bread and it was covered in mold. He thinks the other bread was moldy now too. I really avoid mold now (espcially brown spots on bananas) but only because after my fil and sil came down with cancer I did lots of reading and in the cure for all cancers she told " cancer patients " to avoid all mold because their immune systems are so comprimised. I figured it wouldn't hurt to be more careful about mold after that, not knowing for sure. I'm not saying it *should* be avoided, just that it probably does cause a reaction in the immune system and I suppose someone *with* health problems(not me or my family) might want to steer clear just to be on the safe side. I just do it cause having the cancer in the family has made me a *freak* about nutrition. Maybe I'm overdoing it with the mold aversion, but I don't think it will hurt to avoid it either. > > Michele in WA > > > I have no idea how to tell " good " mold from bad mold. The folks > making cheese (Dom's site) don't seem to worry about it > much, and Dom seems to think most of the molds are > penicillin types. You don't seem to hear about a lot of > " mold poisoning " though -- I know I eat it a good deal when > I accidentally get a moldy berry. I don't know if I could eat > moldy bacon though. Good research project ... > > -- Heidi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 thanks for the feedback on moldy bacon everyone! i have on and off issues with candida (mostly off since starting NT, but have had a recent flareup) so dont' think i should be eating mold per se. anyway, i just sliced off the moldy part and ate it. i just can't see throwing away *bacon*lol. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 In a message dated 7/16/03 2:16:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, heidis@... writes: > Don't quote me on this, but here is the story from my family: > > During the Civil War, the ^ & (* & ^ Yankees were raiding the houses for food. > They raided my great-?-grandparent's farm. There was a " country ham " > hanging in the barn -- the Yanks took all the food they could find, but > they left the ham, because it was covered in mold. The family > just laughed and laughed about that (after the Yanks left) because > of course everyone knows that a good country ham is coated > in mold ... they lived off that ham for a good bit, too. Heidi, That jives with how the Yanks did it earlier in the century. Meat was hung until it molded. The mold was generally green, and it was considered " unripe " before the mold had developed. This was done with all meat, to my understanding. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 If you have a severe mold allergy, you should throw away moldy products, because the mold's have invisible roots. For someone with no allergy, I would *guess* that aerobic molds are safer to consume than anaerobic molds, if there are such thing. When meat is aged till it molds, its well oxygenated as it is hung in open air. Chris In a message dated 7/16/03 5:43:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrowley8@... writes: > I wonder about the mold thing also. My husband ate some sprouted bread > from the cupboard last week and had a bad stomach ache that night. Next morning > he took out the last piece of bread and it was covered in mold. He thinks > the other bread was moldy now too. I really avoid mold now (espcially brown > spots on bananas) but only because after my fil and sil came down with cancer > I did lots of reading and in the cure for all cancers she told " cancer > patients " to avoid all mold because their immune systems are so comprimised. I > figured it wouldn't hurt to be more careful about mold after that, not knowing > for sure. I'm not saying it *should* be avoided, just that it probably does > cause a reaction in the immune system and I suppose someone *with* health > problems(not me or my family) might want to steer clear just to be on the safe > side. I just do it cause having the cancer in the family has made me a *freak* > about nutrition. Maybe I'm overdoing it with the mold aversion, but I don't > think it will hurt to avoid it either. " To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore Roosevelt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 >Heidi, > >That jives with how the Yanks did it earlier in the century. Meat was hung >until it molded. The mold was generally green, and it was considered " unripe " >before the mold had developed. This was done with all meat, to my >understanding. > >Chris I've heard that too. And pepperoni STILL is covered in mold. But my grandmother always maintained the Yanks were quite disgusted by the ham, so either she embellished the story or those particular Yanks didn't eat moldy ham. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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