Re: medical regulations for ships

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Hi Tony,

I would assume there is a similar organization as what I am inspected

against Ours Is American Bureau of Shipping (ABS) . Size, Class and mission

would also determine.

On a 340 foot uninspected fish trawler/ processor we had a single

stateroom converted with no toilet just sink this for almost 200 persons in

the Bearing Sea

Then on a 245 foot Merchant Marine run US Navy contract ship for a total of

50 people II had a sickbay 40 X 12 feet with a separate head w/ a Jacuzzi

and 2 separate storage lockers. Hard to say why.

US Federal Code & Maritime Law (read that as US Coast Guard inspection) only

requires a " suitable size " first aide kit and an appropriate size designated

space with a copy of Ships medicine Chest. Thank goodness (haltingly) to

IMO, ABS and military / industry standards for creating the position I fill.

Shounder, RN/MDR

Contract Medical Services Officer

US Merchant Marine

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From:

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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:34 PM

Subject: medical regulations for ships

Hi guys,

I have just arrived on a new vessel in Norway, we are still in the yard for

a few days before heading off. I realise the regs may differ from country to

country, can someone point me in the direction of medical regulations for

the UK sector. I have looked at MCA and UKOOA and googled every conceivable

idea but can't find any information on what the sickbay should have in terms

of sinks and hand washing facilities. At the moment the only one the sickbay

has is in the bathroom, I am pretty certain I need one in the treatment area

as well.

Thanks in advance,

Tony

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Hi there,

 

No you do not need one in the treatment room, which I am sure is limited in

space...you need somewhere to wash your hands in the clinic and you have

this...plus I suspect a toilet, a shower and a bath...sounds good...do not try

to over do things too much...enjoy a new boat and all that goes with it....in

some countries as you say things differ so if you have a sink in too many places

some country may ask you to take one out...or some client for that matter...so

enjoy the pleasure.

 

P.

 

P

From: Brown <tonybrown24@...>

Subject: medical regulations for ships

" " < >

Date: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 9:33 AM

Hi guys,

I have just arrived on a new vessel in Norway, we are still in the yard for a

few days before heading off. I realise the regs may differ from country to

country, can someone point me in the direction of medical regulations for the UK

sector. I have looked at MCA and UKOOA and googled every conceivable idea but

can't find any information on what the sickbay should have in terms of sinks and

hand washing facilities. At the moment the only one the sickbay has is in the

bathroom, I am pretty certain I need one in the treatment area as well.

Thanks in advance,

Tony

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There should be a copy of Marine orders that you can refer to. The 2nd mate or

master of the ship shpuld be able to get you a copy. This will tell you what

meds you need to stock etc. Have fun Mike

nicole shounder <nickyprn@...> wrote: Hi Tony,

I would assume there is a similar organization as what I am inspected

against Ours Is American Bureau of Shipping (ABS) . Size, Class and mission

would also determine.

On a 340 foot uninspected fish trawler/ processor we had a single

stateroom converted with no toilet just sink this for almost 200 persons in

the Bearing Sea

Then on a 245 foot Merchant Marine run US Navy contract ship for a total of

50 people II had a sickbay 40 X 12 feet with a separate head w/ a Jacuzzi

and 2 separate storage lockers. Hard to say why.

US Federal Code & Maritime Law (read that as US Coast Guard inspection) only

requires a " suitable size " first aide kit and an appropriate size designated

space with a copy of Ships medicine Chest. Thank goodness (haltingly) to

IMO, ABS and military / industry standards for creating the position I fill.

Shounder, RN/MDR

Contract Medical Services Officer

US Merchant Marine

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Brown

Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:34 PM

Subject: medical regulations for ships

Hi guys,

I have just arrived on a new vessel in Norway, we are still in the yard for

a few days before heading off. I realise the regs may differ from country to

country, can someone point me in the direction of medical regulations for

the UK sector. I have looked at MCA and UKOOA and googled every conceivable

idea but can't find any information on what the sickbay should have in terms

of sinks and hand washing facilities. At the moment the only one the sickbay

has is in the bathroom, I am pretty certain I need one in the treatment area

as well.

Thanks in advance,

Tony

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is this a standby vessel ???if so then you come under ERRVA guidelines which

clearly state exatly how things should be set up however if it is just a

standard vessel you come under merchant shipping guidelines which the mca will

hae a copy of these are not as cut and dried as the ERRVA and i dont believe

state exatle wht you should have except for drugs and equipment as per class of

vessel. The merchant Navy are very backward with regards medics being on ships

and they have not quite caught up to ukooa.

hope this helps a little

Compo

@...: treetop_bay@...: Tue,

15 Jul 2008 22:52:05 +0000Subject: Re: medical regulations

for ships

Hi there, No you do not need one in the treatment room, which I am sure is

limited in space...you need somewhere to wash your hands in the clinic and you

have this...plus I suspect a toilet, a shower and a bath...sounds good...do not

try to over do things too much...enjoy a new boat and all that goes with

it....in some countries as you say things differ so if you have a sink in too

many places some country may ask you to take one out...or some client for that

matter...so enjoy the pleasure. P. PFrom: Brown

<tonybrown24@...>Subject: medical regulations for

ships " "

< >Date: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 9:33 AMHi

guys,I have just arrived on a new vessel in Norway, we are still in the yard for

a few days before heading off. I realise the regs may differ from country to

country, can someone point me in the direction of medical regulations for the UK

sector. I have looked at MCA and UKOOA and googled every conceivable idea but

can't find any information on what the sickbay should have in terms of sinks and

hand washing facilities. At the moment the only one the sickbay has is in the

bathroom, I am pretty certain I need one in the treatment area as well. Thanks

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Hi guys and gals,

its an ROV vessel, POB 105 if its any help.

Cheers for the help so far.

Cheers

Tony

@...: tonimedic@...: Wed, 16

Jul 2008 17:58:43 +0100Subject: RE: medical regulations for

ships

is this a standby vessel ???if so then you come under ERRVA guidelines which

clearly state exatly how things should be set up however if it is just a

standard vessel you come under merchant shipping guidelines which the mca will

hae a copy of these are not as cut and dried as the ERRVA and i dont believe

state exatle wht you should have except for drugs and equipment as per class of

vessel. The merchant Navy are very backward with regards medics being on ships

and they have not quite caught up to ukooa. hope this helps a little Compo To:

@...: treetop_bay@...: Tue, 15

Jul 2008 22:52:05 +0000Subject: Re: medical regulations for

shipsHi there, No you do not need one in the treatment room, which I am sure is

limited in space...you need somewhere to wash your hands in the clinic and you

have this...plus I suspect a toilet, a shower and a bath...sounds good...do not

try to over do things too much...enjoy a new boat and all that goes with

it....in some countries as you say things differ so if you have a sink in too

many places some country may ask you to take one out...or some client for that

matter...so enjoy the pleasure. P. PFrom: Brown

<tonybrown24@...>Subject: medical regulations for

ships " "

< >Date: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 9:33 AMHi

guys,I have just arrived on a new vessel in Norway, we are still in the yard for

a few days before heading off. I realise the regs may differ from country to

country, can someone point me in the direction of medical regulations for the UK

sector. I have looked at MCA and UKOOA and googled every conceivable idea but

can't find any information on what the sickbay should have in terms of sinks and

hand washing facilities. At the moment the only one the sickbay has is in the

bathroom, I am pretty certain I need one in the treatment area as well. Thanks

in advance,Tony____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

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Thanks advice so far, its an ROV vessel if thats any use, POB about 100. Sorry I

should have been more specific at the start, bit of an open ended question.

Cheers

Tony

@...: tonimedic@...: Wed, 16

Jul 2008 17:58:43 +0100Subject: RE: medical regulations for

ships

is this a standby vessel ???if so then you come under ERRVA guidelines which

clearly state exatly how things should be set up however if it is just a

standard vessel you come under merchant shipping guidelines which the mca will

hae a copy of these are not as cut and dried as the ERRVA and i dont believe

state exatle wht you should have except for drugs and equipment as per class of

vessel. The merchant Navy are very backward with regards medics being on ships

and they have not quite caught up to ukooa. hope this helps a little Compo To:

@...: treetop_bay@...: Tue, 15

Jul 2008 22:52:05 +0000Subject: Re: medical regulations for

shipsHi there, No you do not need one in the treatment room, which I am sure is

limited in space...you need somewhere to wash your hands in the clinic and you

have this...plus I suspect a toilet, a shower and a bath...sounds good...do not

try to over do things too much...enjoy a new boat and all that goes with

it....in some countries as you say things differ so if you have a sink in too

many places some country may ask you to take one out...or some client for that

matter...so enjoy the pleasure. P. PFrom: Brown

<tonybrown24@...>Subject: medical regulations for

ships " "

< >Date: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 9:33 AMHi

guys,I have just arrived on a new vessel in Norway, we are still in the yard for

a few days before heading off. I realise the regs may differ from country to

country, can someone point me in the direction of medical regulations for the UK

sector. I have looked at MCA and UKOOA and googled every conceivable idea but

can't find any information on what the sickbay should have in terms of sinks and

hand washing facilities. At the moment the only one the sickbay has is in the

bathroom, I am pretty certain I need one in the treatment area as well. Thanks

in advance,Tony____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

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if its a Norwegian vessel then you come under regulation 439 laid down

by the ministry of health and Social Affairs of Norway for the

medication.

If its a UK or a Norwegian based vessel then it is set by the client

the ship is contracted out to stipulates if they would like a medic

onboard.

Ships Capt. and First Officer can adminster any meds onboard the ship

without the regs the medic is held to.

Also minimum stock of items and variety of items is minimal that is

required.

medical

regulations for ships " "

< >Date: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008,

9:33 AMHi guys,I have just arrived on a new vessel in Norway, we are

still in the yard for a few days before heading off. I realise the reg

s may differ from country to country, can someone point me in the

direction of medical regulations for the UK sector. I have looked at

MCA and UKOOA and googled every conceivable idea but can't fi

nd any

information on what the sickbay should have in terms of sinks and hand

washing facilities. At the moment the only one the sickbay has is in

the bathroom, I am pretty certain I need one in the treatment area as

well. Thanks in advance,Tony____________ _________ _________ _________

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Back in July, Tony Brown was asking about Medical regulations for ships.

If he, or anybody else is interested in this subject they may wish to

have a read of:

INTERNATIONAL LABOUR CONFERENCE MARITIME

LABOUR CONVENTION, 2006

Regulation 4.1 – Medical care on board ship and ashore

Also check - Guideline B3.1.8 – Hospital accommodation

For the English version go to:

http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_norm/---normes/documents/n\

ormativeinstrument/wcms_090215.pdf

<http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_norm/---normes/documents/\

normativeinstrument/wcms_090215.pdf>

It is also available from the ILO website in Français •

العربية • 中文 • Deutsch • Português

• РуÑÑкий • Español

Nigel [b-)] in a very sunny Cape Town

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That should read:

Maritime Labour Convention, 2006

Available languages: English, French, Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, German,

Portuguese and Russian

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From: " Nigel Mitton " <mitton_n@...>

Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:26 AM

< >

Subject: Re: medical regulations for ships

>

> Back in July, Tony Brown was asking about Medical regulations for ships.

> If he, or anybody else is interested in this subject they may wish to

> have a read of:

>

> INTERNATIONAL LABOUR CONFERENCE MARITIME

>

> LABOUR CONVENTION, 2006

>

> Regulation 4.1 - Medical care on board ship and ashore

>

> Also check - Guideline B3.1.8 - Hospital accommodation

>

> For the English version go to:

>

> http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_norm/---normes/documents/n\

> ormativeinstrument/wcms_090215.pdf

> <http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_norm/---normes/documents/\

> normativeinstrument/wcms_090215.pdf>

>

> It is also available from the ILO website in Français .

> ا٠" عربÙSØ© . 中æ-? . Deutsch . Português

> . Ð ÑfÑÑкий . Español

>

> Nigel [b-)] in a very sunny Cape Town

>

>

>

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