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On 22/01/06, steevo009 <airwaves99@...> wrote:

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> Hi friends...I thought I'd let you know, in case you hadn't seen, that I

> added a few new polls geared toward people who create personal fragrances

> with alcohol. Inquiring minds want to know!

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Well Steevo, I voted - but as I cant get perfume grade alcohol in the UK, I

voted on a *I wish* (or *if I could*) bases ;o)

Vodka experiments have..... not been good ;(

I also voted on an *if I could, I would* leave it for more than a month...

LLx

PS I *may* have found a supplier for perfume grade alcohol in UK - will post

details if it works out.

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So far, out of the 9 people who voted in the poll I started, " How long

do you let your EO blend mature before adding alcohol? " the majority

(6) say they blend the oils and alcohol together at the same time. I

was under the impression that it's best to let the EO blend mature for

at least a few weeks before adding alcohol. Do you think the 6 people

who're described above might be using EOs already diluted with alcohol

and are already fairly confident of the results of the blends they're

making, so they just add the EO-alcohol dilutions together at the same

time? Or maybe I don't have to let the EO blend mature before adding

alcohol? I'd be interested to know anyone's thoughts...thanks.

Oh--one more thing--I'm experimenting with the " toothpick test, "

dipping a toothpick in the bottle of my EO blend and then dabbing it

on my wrist to get an idea of its balance. I'm guessing that it'll

smell a little differently once it's diluted with alcohol and sprayed

on; in other words, it'll smell softer and less harsh than during the

toothpick test...do you think that's a correct assessment?

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At 03:13 AM 2/6/2006, you wrote:

>So far, out of the 9 people who voted in the poll I started, " How long

>do you let your EO blend mature before adding alcohol? " the majority

>(6) say they blend the oils and alcohol together at the same time. I

>was under the impression that it's best to let the EO blend mature for

>at least a few weeks before adding alcohol. Do you think the 6 people

>who're described above might be using EOs already diluted with alcohol

>and are already fairly confident of the results of the blends they're

>making, so they just add the EO-alcohol dilutions together at the same

>time? Or maybe I don't have to let the EO blend mature before adding

>alcohol? I'd be interested to know anyone's thoughts...thanks.

This is a good point for discussion, Steevo, and I missed the poll, so I'll

go take it now. OK, I voted for two weeks, but that's the minimum, for

evaluation purposes. When I first started creating perfumes for sale,

especially the bespoke perfumes, I didn't have the luxury of the " marrying "

period (that's what I sometimes call it.) I would tell the customer that

hopefully it would mature beautifully, since I avoided using any aromatics

I knew could " grow " (or used them with a light hand, of course, if they

adored the note). For the hotels, I was able to usually squeak 10 days to

two weeks, if I begged. I had more of a personal relationship with the

hotel owners, so that helped. Also, I then had to work with perfume

chemists at the manufacturing plants, and they have their own schedule, and

are used to working with synths!

To make a long story short -- I age them whenever possible. I see that the

number of respondents is up to 10 on the poll, perhaps more will vote after

your initial post.

>Oh--one more thing--I'm experimenting with the " toothpick test, "

>dipping a toothpick in the bottle of my EO blend and then dabbing it

>on my wrist to get an idea of its balance. I'm guessing that it'll

>smell a little differently once it's diluted with alcohol and sprayed

>on; in other words, it'll smell softer and less harsh than during the

>toothpick test...do you think that's a correct assessment?

It's Ok for the initial sniff, but scent strips are better for a pure

assessment, IMO, since the personal body chemistry doesn't enter in.

Diluting with alcohol always makes the scent harsher, and spraying it opens

the scent up in a different way.

I'm not sure what you're asking here. If you want to smell the interaction

of the oils, you need to blend them. I used the " toothpick " test for years

(before I got scent strips) to evaluate the individual oils, not how they

would act in a blend. I studied them for twenty years before I started to

blend, this just because I didn't think of myself as a perfumer, I was just

a lover of scents. I used Kaufman's book to blend simple accords, following

the Carles method. That laid a good foundation for knowing what the

singlular scent smelled like, and then what happened with different ratios

(1:1, 1:2, 1:8, 2:8 for patchouli and lavender, for example).

HTH. Clear as mud? LOL.

Anya

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Dorothy McCall, Cert. Aroma.

Kingsbury Fragrances

The Royal York

3955 Bigelow Blvd. Ste. 907

Pittsburgh, PA. 15213

(412) 687-2720

www.kingsburyfragrances.com

" Vibrating aromatic threads speak of the Divine through tapestries of scent "

Dorothy McCall Cert. Aroma.

> From: " steevo009 " <airwaves99@...>

> Reply-

> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:13:54 -0000

>

> Subject: Re: Polls

>

> So far, out of the 9 people who voted in the poll I started, " How long

> do you let your EO blend mature before adding alcohol? " the majority

>

>

Sorry, I missed the poll also.

I like to mature my blends for 6 weeks before adding the alcohol. Then

mature some more and then top off with floral water.

Dorothy

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At 08:43 AM 2/6/2006, you wrote:

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>Sorry, I missed the poll also.

>I like to mature my blends for 6 weeks before adding the alcohol. Then

>mature some more and then top off with floral water.

>Dorothy

Dorothy, is this 6 weeks for the evaluation phase, or the maturing-for-sale

phase?

Anya

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Dorothy, is this 6 weeks for the evaluation phase, or the maturing-for-sale

phase?

Anya that is a very good question. It has taken me up to 1 year to evaluate

a single blend.

So let us say generally speaking 6 weeks to evaluate. And if satisfactory

then I add the alcohol and evaluate again. The aromatic materials do not

fully come into their own until after the alcohol has been added. As you

know alcohol releases the top notes.

By the way thanks for the tip on adding fir needle eo as a solvent to the

Canadian fir balsam. That helps.

Dorothy

Dorothy McCall, Cert. Aroma.

Kingsbury Fragrances

The Royal York

3955 Bigelow Blvd. Ste. 907

Pittsburgh, PA. 15213

(412) 687-2720

www.kingsburyfragrances.com

" Vibrating aromatic threads speak of the Divine through tapestries of scent "

Dorothy McCall Cert. Aroma.

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> Dorothy McCall, Cert. Aroma.

> Kingsbury Fragrances

> The Royal York

> 3955 Bigelow Blvd. Ste. 907

> Pittsburgh, PA. 15213

> (412) 687-2720

> www.kingsburyfragrances.com

>

> " Vibrating aromatic threads speak of the Divine

> through tapestries of scent "

> Dorothy McCall Cert. Aroma.

>

>

> > From: " steevo009 " <airwaves99@...>

> > Reply-

> > Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:13:54 -0000

> >

> > Subject: Re: Polls

> >

> > So far, out of the 9 people who voted in the poll

> I started, " How long

> > do you let your EO blend mature before adding

> alcohol? " the majority

>

> >

> >

> Sorry, I missed the poll also.

> I like to mature my blends for 6 weeks before adding

> the alcohol. Then

> mature some more and then top off with floral water.

> Dorothy

Dear Dorothy

Excuse me you are saying that you mature the essential

oil drops together for 6 weeks then add the

alcohool?Yes?

BB (sounds like simpleton)

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Thanks to everyone for posting on this thread. As a beginner, I

appreciate the experts sharing their experience with someone like me,

who isn't making fragrance to sell but is just making it for himself.

Anya, about my doing the " toothpick test, " I was dipping a toothpick

into a bottle that contained an EO blend and then putting a tiny bit

of the blended oil on my skin to test it. So, it was already blended,

but without alcohol. I was careful not to do this with oils that

sensitize or are photo-toxic. But I appreciate your advice about

using scent strips, and I'm going to get or make a bunch of those.

Steve Oakley

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Ian,

The polls forum seemed like it had some interesting info. I see it all dated

2005 and below. I'm curious what the 2009 statistics are. Would you start the

polss again.

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At the present time Jarrod I don't really have the time but if I remember

correctly members can start their own polls so feel free to go ahead.

Rgs

Ian

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Ian,

The polls forum seemed like it had some interesting info. I see it all dated

2005 and below. I'm curious what the 2009 statistics are. Would you start

the polss again.

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On brain fog, one of the answers should be "after taking meds"

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From: Francis Bill <georgewbill@...>Subject: Pollshyperaldosteronism Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 8:18 PM

Polls are very easy to set up. As far as I can see they can be left on as long as we want them to be on here. It makes it very easy to see how many have what evey you are polling for. If you look at a poll and think there needs to be more information just make your own.

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