RE: Apropos of nothing ...

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welcome back heidi!

>>>>>The chicken house motivation also came about because something is

predating

my chickens, and while I was gone 3-4 got eaten (and maybe the young

peacock).

Which got me thinking of you Suze, and the issue of calcium and

meat-eaters.

Whatever is eating the chickens (probably a bobcat or coyote)

is leaving lots of scat. And the scat is FULL of feathers, bones (like, a

whole paw), and fur. So I'm thinking: this meat eater is really getting as

much calcium as it can handle -- it seems to be eating a lot of small

mammals (besides my chickens!) including their bones. I don't know if the

ancestors of dogs did the same thing, but I'm betting they did, probably

our ancestors too. Which I've heard, but it really makes an impression when

you see the real thing. Who needs calcium supplements when you are snacking

on whole bones?

------------->gee, i feel so special...you were thinking of me when you saw

poop! lol! but yes, by all accounts dogs' ancestor - the gray wolf -

consumes the whole prey - usually large ungulates - except the skull and

large leg bones, maybe the spine, and in some cases leave the stomach

content. descriptions of their poop sound similar to what you described.

obviously no need for supplementation :-)

>>>>Which leads me to one other thing I wanted to share: there is some news

around that Korea is one place where SARS has NOT hit. The Koreans (and

some scientists) are thinking that the reason is Kimchi. The Koreans eat a

LOT of kimchi, and they are thinking the garlic is protective against SARS.

We are thinking maybe it isn't necessarily the garlic: kimchi has so much

stuff in it (not to mention live bacteria and likely bacteriophages) that

it's hard to say one agent is protective. But to have a whole country NOT

get a disease (and a lot of Koreans travel to China, they say) is an

interesting statistic, and very interesting for those of us who are

probiotic-vegie-lovers.

----------->hunh...that's interesting. i've come to love kimchi and eat it

at every meal. i just made my first batch with *napa* cabbage and am eager

to try it. it's also my first batch using previous kimchi juice as the

innoculent. it's day 3 at room temp...think i'll try some today!

Suze Fisher

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Web Design & Development

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>------------->gee, i feel so special...you were thinking of me when you saw

>poop! lol!

Hee hee. Yeah, Suze, you are special ;-)

All this talk about kimchi though is painful. I ran out just before I left

and there is NO GOOD kimchi in the fridge. Oy. Well, gotta get to Paldo

World today!

-- Heidi

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In a message dated 6/25/03 9:46:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

s.fisher22@... writes:

> ------------->gee, i feel so special...you were thinking of me when you saw

> poop! lol! but yes, by all accounts dogs' ancestor - the gray wolf -

> consumes the whole prey - usually large ungulates - except the skull and

> large leg bones, maybe the spine, and in some cases leave the stomach

> content. descriptions of their poop sound similar to what you described.

> obviously no need for supplementation :-)

Why do they leave the spine? Is there any harm in using spines in soup

stock? I have a spine, so I want to make sure!

Chris

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Chris-

>I have a spine

Hmm, maybe it's time for some major surgery?

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>>>>Why do they leave the spine?

--------->dunno that they actually do. they tend to leave the biggest bones

that are hardest to chew, which is typically the skull and largest leg

bones. someone on another list mentioned leaving the spine, but that

might've been with her own dog pack.

Is there any harm in using spines in soup

stock? I have a spine, so I want to make sure!

----->not that i'm aware of. probably has quite a bit of DHA though, as i

believe the CNS concentrates DHA.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

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In a message dated 6/25/03 5:12:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Idol@... writes:

> >I have a spine

>

> Hmm, maybe it's time for some major surgery?

LOL! I have a *lamb* spine. *External* to myself. :-P

Chris