Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 $350 a day???? " Randy A. " <upcmedic@...> wrote: Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 I am currently at Victory and will be here for about two or three more days. I am a medic for PSD, am on my second contract and on overall month 19. I have been NREMTP since 9/98. " Randy A. " <upcmedic@...> wrote: Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic Mader FF2/P GOR GRP, Jaguar South --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Hey Mate: Your just what we are looking for. I will know shortly how things are going with this project. So what plans are in the immediate future for you ? This might be since to have a roof over your head for a change. Need a copy of your CV. If you know any good clinical medics, we could use them possibly. Regards Butch Randy A. " Butch " RN, EMTP Executive Director MedStaff Inc. U.S. Cell: 573-631-5561 U.S. Home Office: 318-443-4532 Iraqna: 0790-451-8205 Dubai: (00965) 751-2835 upcmedic@... Re: Iraq Medic Positions I am currently at Victory and will be here for about two or three more days. I am a medic for PSD, am on my second contract and on overall month 19. I have been NREMTP since 9/98. " Randy A. " <upcmedic (DOT) com> wrote: Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic Mader FF2/P GOR GRP, Jaguar South ------------ --------- --------- --- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Hello, are these only available to medics already in Iraq? Also what email should I send a CV? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 , Thanks for the reply. Yes, $350 a day. It adds up by the end of the month. I have built a pretty nice home working like this. If your interested let me know. Butch Randy A. " Butch " RN, EMTP Executive Director MedStaff Inc. U.S. Cell: 573-631-5561 U.S. Home Office: 318-443-4532 Iraqna: 0790-451-8205 Dubai: (00965) 751-2835 upcmedic@... Re: Iraq Medic Positions $350 a day???? " Randy A. " <upcmedic (DOT) com> wrote: Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic ------------ --------- --------- --- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 , They will get the first chance for logistical purposes. You may well get picked with the right background. Send you CV to me at upcmedic@... Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks loads Butch Randy A. " Butch " RN, EMTP Executive Director MedStaff Inc. U.S. Cell: 573-631-5561 U.S. Home Office: 318-443-4532 Iraqna: 0790-451-8205 Dubai: (00965) 751-2835 upcmedic@... Re: Iraq Medic Positions Hello, are these only available to medics already in Iraq? Also what email should I send a CV? Thanks, ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. http://smallbusiness./r-index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 $350 a day????? For Iraq? Counting my blessing here on my oil rig then :-) mader andrew <hobbitdad2000@...> wrote: I am currently at Victory and will be here for about two or three more days. I am a medic for PSD, am on my second contract and on overall month 19. I have been NREMTP since 9/98. " Randy A. " <upcmedic@...> wrote: Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic Mader FF2/P GOR GRP, Jaguar South --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Yea I hear ya......Sounds good to me to. Wish there was room for all of us..... Cheers..... Butch Randy A. " Butch " RN, EMTP Executive Director MedStaff Inc. U.S. Cell: 573-631-5561 U.S. Home Office: 318-443-4532 Iraqna: 0790-451-8205 Dubai: (00965) 751-2835 upcmedic@... Re: Iraq Medic Positions $350 a day????? For Iraq? Counting my blessing here on my oil rig then :-) mader andrew <hobbitdad2000> wrote: I am currently at Victory and will be here for about two or three more days. I am a medic for PSD, am on my second contract and on overall month 19. I have been NREMTP since 9/98. " Randy A. " <upcmedic (DOT) com> wrote: Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic Mader FF2/P GOR GRP, Jaguar South ------------ --------- --------- --- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Better watch out.. sounds like convoy ops to me.. you'd do better to stay on the rigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 What are the detais.. this works out to 180 GBPs, boys... that would be ok for static in camp positions if it were every day including leave. But if not, you US guys this is real low on the pay scale. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Have to aggree the danger level in iraq is incresing not decreasing but we see a marketed decrease in pay being offered whats wrong with this picture? Several of us on this site know of outfits in Iraq who have dropped thier day rates serously and wonder why guys are bailing out for other contrat companies. As Mike says wish you good luck on finding medics ats 350 US aday just remenber you get what you pay for...................... Tom >From: Plyler <michael_plyler@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Iraq Medic Positions >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:38:12 -0800 (PST) > >What are the detais.. this works out to 180 GBPs, boys... that would be ok >for static in camp positions if it were every day including leave. But if >not, you US guys this is real low on the pay scale. > > Mike > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Well said, .. even the UK Oilrig Medics make more and for you US guys it is possible to attend and be certified as a UK Oilrig Medic which generally starts out at 210 GBPs per day and is far more safer than working over here. I went to the course and have that as a recourse in the event I decide to leave this area of operations. I can understand the need to support your family but as you said it is much worse than three years ago and yes we do make a decent rate pay when out here on Convoy Ops and the risks dictate, as do the risks anywhere over here dictate a higher rate of pay. Think seriously guys this pay is not what is standard.for the industry here. I'm not like , one to be so nice when I see that this kind of thing is happening to my fellow Americans and I will be up front with the posting and say it's bullocks. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 $350 a day is very low for that environment. Someone out there is skimming off a lot of the cream. The lowest I ever heard of. Iraq Medic Positions Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic ___________________________________________________________ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Championship. http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://mail..net/uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 There is also the issue of taxation, as far as I am aware, if you are not out of country for at least 330 days , any thing you earn is taxed. A 60 day contract will be dicey. Companies like KBR will give you a one year contract with tax relief if you are demobilized for some reason other than you resigning or getting fired. Unfortunately, there are companies out there that makes a ton of money out of your sweat...basically, falling in the same category as a scorned ex-wife, a laywer and an insurance salesman. Of course, this is only my opinion. [Remotemedics. co.uk] Iraq Medic Positions Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Championship. http://uk.rd. / evt=44106/ *http://mail. .net/ uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Apparently it is this outfit: http://www.medexpresscompanies.com/site12.php *International Operations * MedRelief, MedExpress’ non-profit corporation, provides humanitarian aid as part of its evangelical outreach to people across the globe.More recently, it has been the war-torn area of Iraq that is benefiting from MedExpress Companies’ international expertise. In late 2003—at a time when political unrest and violence were at their peak—Mark was on a plane to Baghdad, and the result of that initial trip was the construction of a medical clinic at the Baghdad International Airport. Today, critical care certified paramedics provide expanded scope of practice treatment and procedures for the employees of contractors working in Iraq. Utilizing the latest developments in telemedicine allows oversight and medical control by a U.S. physician. A consummate entrepreneur, Mark continues to pursue an array of additional opportunities in Iraq. Through its sister company MedStaff, MedExpress now operates two Urgent Care Clinics on U.S. Military bases in Iraq and in July of 2005 began the process of constructing six more. Paramedics who staff the clinics are trained to provide emergent care to U.S. Military as well as support personnel. In addition to providing quality care to individuals on the base, MedExpress’ staff has been contracted by several international companies to provide health screenings and vaccinations to employees of private companies assisting in the reconstruction of Iraq. " Evangelical outreach " ???? wrote: > > $350 a day???? > > " Randy A. " <upcmedic@... <mailto:upcmedic%40>> > wrote: Hello All, > > Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are > looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer > one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. > The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely > renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. > > Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need > to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per > clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call > and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. > > More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. > > Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. > > Butch RN, EMTP > Project Manager > MedExpress Clinic > > --------------------------------- > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Hi guys Med-express use to look after all of the TCN`s working in the DEFAC if i read the mail right it said military base so i don't think this is for convoy or outside the wire. Dawdy <jdawdy@...> wrote: Apparently it is this outfit: http://www.medexpresscompanies.com/site12.php *International Operations * MedRelief, MedExpress’ non-profit corporation, provides humanitarian aid as part of its evangelical outreach to people across the globe.More recently, it has been the war-torn area of Iraq that is benefiting from MedExpress Companies’ international expertise. In late 2003—at a time when political unrest and violence were at their peak—Mark was on a plane to Baghdad, and the result of that initial trip was the construction of a medical clinic at the Baghdad International Airport. Today, critical care certified paramedics provide expanded scope of practice treatment and procedures for the employees of contractors working in Iraq. Utilizing the latest developments in telemedicine allows oversight and medical control by a U.S. physician. A consummate entrepreneur, Mark continues to pursue an array of additional opportunities in Iraq. Through its sister company MedStaff, MedExpress now operates two Urgent Care Clinics on U.S. Military bases in Iraq and in July of 2005 began the process of constructing six more. Paramedics who staff the clinics are trained to provide emergent care to U.S. Military as well as support personnel. In addition to providing quality care to individuals on the base, MedExpress’ staff has been contracted by several international companies to provide health screenings and vaccinations to employees of private companies assisting in the reconstruction of Iraq. " Evangelical outreach " ???? wrote: > > $350 a day???? > > " Randy A. " > > wrote: Hello All, > > Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are > looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer > one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. > The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely > renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. > > Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need > to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per > clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call > and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. > > More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. > > Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. > > Butch RN, EMTP > Project Manager > MedExpress Clinic > > --------------------------------- > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 As if the US Military and companies like KBR, Parsons, etc. need any " rescuing " . " Money " is the mainstay for anyone going there, not due to Evangelistic beliefs. I would do it behind a " Save the Children " Slogan, or even a " Hug a Tree " march...just, there ain't that many trees... Parasitation of the Nation...for paying a measly $350/day. Re: Iraq Medic Positions Apparently it is this outfit: http://www.medexpresscompanies.com/site12.php *International Operations * MedRelief, MedExpress’ non-profit corporation, provides humanitarian aid as part of its evangelical outreach to people across the globe.More recently, it has been the war-torn area of Iraq that is benefiting from MedExpress Companies’ international expertise. In late 2003—at a time when political unrest and violence were at their peak—Mark was on a plane to Baghdad, and the result of that initial trip was the construction of a medical clinic at the Baghdad International Airport. Today, critical care certified paramedics provide expanded scope of practice treatment and procedures for the employees of contractors working in Iraq. Utilizing the latest developments in telemedicine allows oversight and medical control by a U.S. physician. A consummate entrepreneur, Mark continues to pursue an array of additional opportunities in Iraq. Through its sister company MedStaff, MedExpress now operates two Urgent Care Clinics on U.S. Military bases in Iraq and in July of 2005 began the process of constructing six more. Paramedics who staff the clinics are trained to provide emergent care to U.S. Military as well as support personnel. In addition to providing quality care to individuals on the base, MedExpress’ staff has been contracted by several international companies to provide health screenings and vaccinations to employees of private companies assisting in the reconstruction of Iraq. " Evangelical outreach " ???? wrote: > > $350 a day???? > > " Randy A. " <upcmedic@... <mailto:upcmedic%40>> > wrote: Hello All, > > Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are > looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer > one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. > The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely > renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. > > Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need > to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per > clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call > and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. > > More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. > > Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. > > Butch RN, EMTP > Project Manager > MedExpress Clinic > > --------------------------------- > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Gents: I too must echo this sentiment as well, to offer this " day rate " in my neck of the woods for industrial standby would indicate that either some major goring going on or undercutting of contracts in the name of _______? Asking for an REMT-P with ONE WHOLE YEAR in experience is folly and this disrespects remote/hostile environment health care providers, no matter where one calls home. Wilf from Canukistan. ps RPGs stop at the wire don't they.... just asking? Re: Re: Iraq Medic Positions Well said, .. even the UK Oilrig Medics make more and for you US guys it is possible to attend and be certified as a UK Oilrig Medic which generally starts out at 210 GBPs per day and is far more safer than working over here. I went to the course and have that as a recourse in the event I decide to leave this area of operations. I can understand the need to support your family but as you said it is much worse than three years ago and yes we do make a decent rate pay when out here on Convoy Ops and the risks dictate, as do the risks anywhere over here dictate a higher rate of pay. Think seriously guys this pay is not what is standard.for the industry here. I'm not like , one to be so nice when I see that this kind of thing is happening to my fellow Americans and I will be up front with the posting and say it's bullocks. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Dear All, Yep, this is us. We have been quite successful providing services that allow U.S. Medics a chance to get off the street in the U.S. and make some real money. We are not a PSD company since we do pre-TMC level clinic work in man-camps inside the wire. Thus the reason for the lower rate since we are only offered a lower rate for the service. The 18 months I spent in Iraq was no picnic, but it was inside the wire. My hat is off to you road medics doing the PSD work. You and we are worth every penny management can pay. I left Iraq last November and am looking forward to returning on this project. Thanks for the insite. Cheers Butch Randy A. " Butch " RN, EMTP Executive Director MedStaff Inc. U.S. Cell: 573-631-5561 U.S. Home Office: 318-443-4532 Iraqna: 0790-451-8205 Dubai: (00965) 751-2835 upcmedic@... Re: Iraq Medic Positions Apparently it is this outfit: http://www.medexpresscompanies.com/site12.php *International Operations * MedRelief, MedExpress’ non-profit corporation, provides humanitarian aid as part of its evangelical outreach to people across the globe.More recently, it has been the war-torn area of Iraq that is benefiting from MedExpress Companies’ international expertise. In late 2003—at a time when political unrest and violence were at their peak—Mark was on a plane to Baghdad, and the result of that initial trip was the construction of a medical clinic at the Baghdad International Airport. Today, critical care certified paramedics provide expanded scope of practice treatment and procedures for the employees of contractors working in Iraq. Utilizing the latest developments in telemedicine allows oversight and medical control by a U.S. physician. A consummate entrepreneur, Mark continues to pursue an array of additional opportunities in Iraq. Through its sister company MedStaff, MedExpress now operates two Urgent Care Clinics on U.S. Military bases in Iraq and in July of 2005 began the process of constructing six more. Paramedics who staff the clinics are trained to provide emergent care to U.S. Military as well as support personnel. In addition to providing quality care to individuals on the base, MedExpress’ staff has been contracted by several international companies to provide health screenings and vaccinations to employees of private companies assisting in the reconstruction of Iraq. " Evangelical outreach " ???? wrote: > > $350 a day???? > > " Randy A. " <upcmedic@... <mailto:upcmedic%40>> > wrote: Hello All, > > Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are > looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer > one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. > The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely > renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. > > Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need > to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per > clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call > and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. > > More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. > > Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. > > Butch RN, EMTP > Project Manager > MedExpress Clinic > > --------------------------------- > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Sadly, there are a lot of people in the world (the U.S. particularly) who will jump at that type of money. There are just too many 'medics on land in the U.S. who are seriously underpaid, so for them to come out and work in any of the remote areas is a huge pay raise (even if they are underpaid for the area they're working.) Generally speaking that means that the less- (or un-) qualified are getting jobs, but it seems most employers don't really care about the quality of the employee: They just want National Registry and a pulse and you're golden. Austin On Mar 4, 2007, at 2:38 AM, Plyler wrote: > What are the detais.. this works out to 180 GBPs, boys... that > would be ok for static in camp positions if it were every day > including leave. But if not, you US guys this is real low on the > pay scale. > > Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 , Have we met? You certainly have the inside track on MedExpress. We do several Humanitarian Missions every year through a group of volunteers via Mercy Medical Network. We also respond to disasters with the same group through Compassion Services International. To feed our families, we pick up contracts in the U.S. and International arena that are medically related. None require the risk of a PSD medic. Our last large project in Iraq treated up to 2500 a month at eight clinic locations. All were inside the wire. The U.S. Gov makes it tough on us with the tax issue. We must be out of country 330 to take a tax break. Even then it only covers the first $80,000 net after itemized deductions. So, what we do in our philosophy is provide quality medical care in a man camp style atmosphere personal convictions aside. Yet, guilty again. I work for a christian and would face the same penalty in a court of law. But that is not what this is about. It is about getting the job done. You Brits make quite a bit more than us Yanks. Boo.....when Iraq is done, maybe one of yall can put me to work. Cheers Butch Randy A. " Butch " RN, EMTP Executive Director MedStaff Inc. U.S. Cell: 573-631-5561 U.S. Home Office: 318-443-4532 Iraqna: 0790-451-8205 Dubai: (00965) 751-2835 upcmedic@... Re: Iraq Medic Positions Apparently it is this outfit: http://www.medexpresscompanies.com/site12.php *International Operations * MedRelief, MedExpress’ non-profit corporation, provides humanitarian aid as part of its evangelical outreach to people across the globe.More recently, it has been the war-torn area of Iraq that is benefiting from MedExpress Companies’ international expertise. In late 2003—at a time when political unrest and violence were at their peak—Mark was on a plane to Baghdad, and the result of that initial trip was the construction of a medical clinic at the Baghdad International Airport. Today, critical care certified paramedics provide expanded scope of practice treatment and procedures for the employees of contractors working in Iraq. Utilizing the latest developments in telemedicine allows oversight and medical control by a U.S. physician. A consummate entrepreneur, Mark continues to pursue an array of additional opportunities in Iraq. Through its sister company MedStaff, MedExpress now operates two Urgent Care Clinics on U.S. Military bases in Iraq and in July of 2005 began the process of constructing six more. Paramedics who staff the clinics are trained to provide emergent care to U.S. Military as well as support personnel. In addition to providing quality care to individuals on the base, MedExpress’ staff has been contracted by several international companies to provide health screenings and vaccinations to employees of private companies assisting in the reconstruction of Iraq. " Evangelical outreach " ???? wrote: > > $350 a day???? > > " Randy A. " <upcmedic@... <mailto:upcmedic%40>> > wrote: Hello All, > > Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are > looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer > one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. > The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely > renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. > > Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need > to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per > clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call > and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. > > More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. > > Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. > > Butch RN, EMTP > Project Manager > MedExpress Clinic > > --------------------------------- > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Hey ! Sounds to me the shoe is on the other foot It's often the USA that loses out jobs to lower paid internationals Rare and Ironic that their short course, dime a dozen EMS workers Becomes very competitive on the international market ! ! ???))))) Watch out South Africans))))) This said And it varies throughout the USA and from systems to systems But you should easily get excellent Medics at the stated Salary ! ! ! The USA as not moved very far in the education and professionalisation of their EMT and Medics since the 70's With out risk, injury, prejudice to their Pts (! ?) As for the rest of the first world It HAS moved on I guess that's just how the cooky crumbles Re: Iraq Medic Positions Sadly, there are a lot of people in the world (the U.S. particularly) who will jump at that type of money. There are just too many 'medics on land in the U.S. who are seriously underpaid, so for them to come out and work in any of the remote areas is a huge pay raise (even if they are underpaid for the area they're working.) Generally speaking that means that the less- (or un-) qualified are getting jobs, but it seems most employers don't really care about the quality of the employee: They just want National Registry and a pulse and you're golden. Austin On Mar 4, 2007, at 2:38 AM, Plyler wrote: > What are the detais.. this works out to 180 GBPs, boys... that > would be ok for static in camp positions if it were every day > including leave. But if not, you US guys this is real low on the > pay scale. > > Mike Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... ALL list admin messages (subscriptions & unsubscriptions) should be sent to the list owner. Post message: egroups Please visit our website http://www.remotemedics.co.uk Regards The Remote Medics Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I'm hoping I am misreading your mail, as it sounds to me as if you are trying to say U.S. EMS is stuck in the 70s? I would take offense to that statement on behalf of the many quality providers here in the States. There are certainly regions of the U.S. and specific programs that could use improvement, and I am never against raising the standards for anyone in the medical field--particularly with regard to remote 'medics--however to make the implication that the skills and training of the U.S. 'medics have slipped behind the " first world " standards would be a gross misstatement--in fact in a number of regards the U.S. still maintains leadership in the prehospital care arena. With that said, Paramedics are training to be prehospital providers, with the assumption that they will after a short or medium amount of time turn that patient over to a higher level provider, and are generally unprepared to work offshore or on remote sites--Primary Care isn't part of the job description. The problem arises for us that there are no real " qualifications " to be an offshore or remote provider. The majority of companies first choose based on COST then on QUALIFICATIONS. They will hire a well- qualified individual only if he will cost no more (or marginally so) then an under-qualified individual. It is often viewed (like the original posting) that a " qualified " person is anyone with National Registry--ignoring the fact that National Registry is not a very difficult test nor has anything to do with the offshore/remote field. National Registry Paramedic has been judged as the " standard " . I don't really feel the British system of a three week course should really be the end-all of qualifications, as a system it has the advantage of setting the bar HIGHER then normal as well as offering some specific training to the arena. The job in question will almost surely receive more then enough applicants for the position, however as everyone else has stated the money is TERRIBLE for Iraq--regardless of being a " safe job " in camp. The relative level of danger overall has increased, rather then decreased, and will likely only continue to get worse as time goes on. The OP makes a good point about only being able to get what money his company is offered, so it's not necessarily his fault (unless there is a lot of skimming going on, which is a possibility), but you do get what you pay for. Austin On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Brault wrote: > Hey ! > Sounds to me the shoe is on the other foot > It's often the USA that loses out jobs to lower paid internationals > Rare and Ironic that their short course, dime a dozen EMS workers > Becomes very competitive on the international market ! ! ???))))) > Watch out South Africans))))) > > This said > And it varies throughout the USA and from systems to systems > But you should easily get excellent Medics at the stated Salary ! ! ! > > The USA as not moved very far in the education and > professionalisation of their EMT and Medics since the 70's > With out risk, injury, prejudice to their Pts (! ?) > > As for the rest of the first world > It HAS moved on > > I guess that's just how the cooky crumbles > > > > Re: Iraq Medic Positions > > Sadly, there are a lot of people in the world (the U.S. particularly) > who will jump at that type of money. There are just too many 'medics > on land in the U.S. who are seriously underpaid, so for them to come > out and work in any of the remote areas is a huge pay raise (even if > they are underpaid for the area they're working.) Generally speaking > that means that the less- (or un-) qualified are getting jobs, but it > seems most employers don't really care about the quality of the > employee: They just want National Registry and a pulse and you're > golden. > > Austin > > On Mar 4, 2007, at 2:38 AM, Plyler wrote: > > > What are the detais.. this works out to 180 GBPs, boys... that > > would be ok for static in camp positions if it were every day > > including leave. But if not, you US guys this is real low on the > > pay scale. > > > > Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 350 a day !!!! - Sorry but I wouldn't get out of bed for that - God save us from greedy 'entrepeneurs'. Anyone who goes to Iraq for that little, even if it's inside the wire is allowing themselves (and the rest of us) to get mugged. When I see companies advertising positions for money like that it really annoys me. " 7 days a week around the clock on call - normal for 350 a day " - In a parallel universe !! I'm on 200 a day more than that in Saudi for a ten hour day. $350 a day for a professional medic in a hostile environment is just plain offensive, I sincerely hope this job gets no takers. RUDY VAN-DENTEN <medicrudy@...> wrote: There is also the issue of taxation, as far as I am aware, if you are not out of country for at least 330 days , any thing you earn is taxed. A 60 day contract will be dicey. Companies like KBR will give you a one year contract with tax relief if you are demobilized for some reason other than you resigning or getting fired. Unfortunately, there are companies out there that makes a ton of money out of your sweat...basically, falling in the same category as a scorned ex-wife, a laywer and an insurance salesman. Of course, this is only my opinion. [Remotemedics. co.uk] Iraq Medic Positions Hello All, Greetings. I have just been made aware of an RFQ for 8 medics. They are looking for Nationally Registered Paramedics from the States. Prefer one year prior experience in that country. Likely will pay $350 a day. The initial contract period is around 60 days with a very likely renewal period. The Gov does that sometimes. Is there anyone in the Iraq theater already that is interested? We need to staff 8 clinic sites on a variety of military bases. One medic per clinic. Work 7 days a week. Available around the clock for sick call and emergencies. That is the norm for this type of position. More info to follow over the weekend. This is a stat project. Send your CV to me if you are interested and available. Butch RN, EMTP Project Manager MedExpress Clinic ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Championship. http://uk.rd. / evt=44106/ *http://mail. .net/ uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 " British system of a three week course " - sorry but you got that wrong, took me three and a half years in the London Ambulance service to get my paramedic qualification and state registration. It takes a year and a half to qualify as an EMT in an UK ambulance service. Apart from first having to gain your EMT, then on the road experience prior to applying for the paramedic course, then the pre course learning, then the taught/classroom module, you then have to spend four weeks in a hospital - theatres/ITU/Accident and emergency dept before qualifying so your quote about the British 3 week course is way off the mark. A Austin <abaustin+groups@...> wrote: I'm hoping I am misreading your mail, as it sounds to me as if you are trying to say U.S. EMS is stuck in the 70s? I would take offense to that statement on behalf of the many quality providers here in the States. There are certainly regions of the U.S. and specific programs that could use improvement, and I am never against raising the standards for anyone in the medical field--particularly with regard to remote 'medics--however to make the implication that the skills and training of the U.S. 'medics have slipped behind the " first world " standards would be a gross misstatement--in fact in a number of regards the U.S. still maintains leadership in the prehospital care arena. With that said, Paramedics are training to be prehospital providers, with the assumption that they will after a short or medium amount of time turn that patient over to a higher level provider, and are generally unprepared to work offshore or on remote sites--Primary Care isn't part of the job description. The problem arises for us that there are no real " qualifications " to be an offshore or remote provider. The majority of companies first choose based on COST then on QUALIFICATIONS. They will hire a well- qualified individual only if he will cost no more (or marginally so) then an under-qualified individual. It is often viewed (like the original posting) that a " qualified " person is anyone with National Registry--ignoring the fact that National Registry is not a very difficult test nor has anything to do with the offshore/remote field. National Registry Paramedic has been judged as the " standard " . I don't really feel the British system of a three week course should really be the end-all of qualifications, as a system it has the advantage of setting the bar HIGHER then normal as well as offering some specific training to the arena. The job in question will almost surely receive more then enough applicants for the position, however as everyone else has stated the money is TERRIBLE for Iraq--regardless of being a " safe job " in camp. The relative level of danger overall has increased, rather then decreased, and will likely only continue to get worse as time goes on. The OP makes a good point about only being able to get what money his company is offered, so it's not necessarily his fault (unless there is a lot of skimming going on, which is a possibility), but you do get what you pay for. Austin On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Brault wrote: > Hey ! > Sounds to me the shoe is on the other foot > It's often the USA that loses out jobs to lower paid internationals > Rare and Ironic that their short course, dime a dozen EMS workers > Becomes very competitive on the international market ! ! ???))))) > Watch out South Africans))))) > > This said > And it varies throughout the USA and from systems to systems > But you should easily get excellent Medics at the stated Salary ! ! ! > > The USA as not moved very far in the education and > professionalisation of their EMT and Medics since the 70's > With out risk, injury, prejudice to their Pts (! ?) > > As for the rest of the first world > It HAS moved on > > I guess that's just how the cooky crumbles > > > > Re: Iraq Medic Positions > > Sadly, there are a lot of people in the world (the U.S. particularly) > who will jump at that type of money. There are just too many 'medics > on land in the U.S. who are seriously underpaid, so for them to come > out and work in any of the remote areas is a huge pay raise (even if > they are underpaid for the area they're working.) Generally speaking > that means that the less- (or un-) qualified are getting jobs, but it > seems most employers don't really care about the quality of the > employee: They just want National Registry and a pulse and you're > golden. > > Austin > > On Mar 4, 2007, at 2:38 AM, Plyler wrote: > > > What are the detais.. this works out to 180 GBPs, boys... that > > would be ok for static in camp positions if it were every day > > including leave. But if not, you US guys this is real low on the > > pay scale. > > > > Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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