Re: Mercury fillings

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

Yes, mercury in your system is passed on to your baby, but you absolutely do

not want to tackle their removal while pregnant or breast-feeding. The

replacement material is also critical as some composites are equally as harmful

to

your health. Find a dentist who is expert in mercury removal and will find a

replacement material that is biocompatible to your body. Also, the process will

require added diligence to make sure you have the proper nutrients to handle

the detox.

In the meantime, a chlorella supplement will aid in detoxing the mercury from

your system. I use Sun Chlorella daily. It is a small remedy, but better than

nothing.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

I had it done 2 years ago and it helped me a lot. I was amazed how much

better I started to feel after a while. I had hair analysis done and the

levels were low so I wasn't sure if it would make any difference but it

sure did. I had it done at the hospital because I can't take local

anesthetic. This year I had a root canal done and also done with

composite. Any filling I need now are composites. Yes I wouldn't do it

while you are pregnant or nursing.

Ina

Anyone ever had mercury fillings removed and replaced with composites?

What effect did it have? I have mercury fillings and I just read

that the mercury not only has been harming me, it can cross the

placenta into the fetus (not good since I'm pregnant). I'm assuming

now wouldn't be a good time to get them replaced, but I'm considering

having it done after the baby is born. I'd appreciate any information

you may have on your own experiences.

Dawn

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[Guest guest]

> In the meantime, a chlorella supplement will aid in detoxing the mercury

from

> your system. I use Sun Chlorella daily. It is a small remedy, but better

than

> nothing.

>

> Theresa

>

I personally wouldn't feel comfortable doing any detoxing while pregnant or

nursing.

I believe that the dentist Hal Huggins recommends doing 6 months of detox

following mercury amalgam removal before getting pregnant.

I had my amalgams removed last August 14, making 6 months Valentine's day.

I thought this was pretty funny, and must have told alot of people, because

once February and March rolled around, everyone was expecting me to be

pregnant.

-Linnea

[Guest guest]

I had 4 mercury fillings replaced with composites several years ago. I

was in poor health due to poor diet so the overall effects were not

dramatic. However it was definitely worth the money. Those 4 teeth

are no long ultra-sensitive, as they were. When the mercury fillings

were in, I would avoid using those teeth for chewing, and move the

food toward other teeth. This was especially true if the food was hot

or cold, but my merc-filled teeth were sensitive even for room temp

food. I think the mercury caused nerve damage in the teeth, which

healed when the composities were put in.

I would NOT do this while pregnant or breasfeeding. When the baby's

weaned, I'd say go for it.

BUT find a dentist who specializes in removing merc fillings, because

it is a delicate process to get all the mercury OUT. If the dentist

does a bad job you can end up with metal loose in your mouth or

bloodstream.

daphne b.

--- In , " dawnciano " <dawnciano@y...>

wrote:

> Anyone ever had mercury fillings removed and replaced with composites?

> What effect did it have? I have mercury fillings and I just read

> that the mercury not only has been harming me, it can cross the

> placenta into the fetus (not good since I'm pregnant). I'm assuming

> now wouldn't be a good time to get them replaced, but I'm considering

> having it done after the baby is born. I'd appreciate any information

> you may have on your own experiences.

>

> Dawn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/9/2003 12:34:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, k1fun@...

writes:

> I personally wouldn't feel comfortable doing any detoxing while pregnant or

> nursing.

>

Linnea,

I agree with you about doing any aggressive detoxing, but using a food such

as chlorella is not going to cause that kind of detox effect. Remember, our

livers are constantly detoxing......we hope.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Theresa,

>

> Yes, mercury in your system is passed on to your baby, but you

absolutely do

> not want to tackle their removal while pregnant or breast-feeding.

That is so frightening. My poor little baby. What could the side

effects be? I had no idea.

The

> replacement material is also critical as some composites are equally

as harmful to

> your health. Find a dentist who is expert in mercury removal and

will find a

> replacement material that is biocompatible to your body. Also, the

process will

> require added diligence to make sure you have the proper nutrients

to handle

> the detox.

Is there any good information out there on detoxifying from mercury?

What type of test would I take to find out what my levels are now? I

know NT mentions cilantro is good at removing mercury from the system.

I'm actually trying to grow some on my balcony so I can start using

that in the meantime.

>

> In the meantime, a chlorella supplement will aid in detoxing the

mercury from

> your system. I use Sun Chlorella daily. It is a small remedy, but

better than

> nothing.

Where do you get Sun Chlorella from?

Dawn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Linnea,

>

> I personally wouldn't feel comfortable doing any detoxing while

pregnant or

> nursing.

No. I guess you're right, but what about my baby? I am totally scared

to death now.

What does it cost to get them removed, and how do I find a good

dentist? I wouldn't trust anyone here in Italy.

>

> I believe that the dentist Hal Huggins recommends doing 6 months of

detox

> following mercury amalgam removal before getting pregnant.

>

> I had my amalgams removed last August 14, making 6 months

Valentine's day.

> I thought this was pretty funny, and must have told alot of people,

because

> once February and March rolled around, everyone was expecting me to be

> pregnant.

>

> -Linnea

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

Please try not to worry too much. Yes your baby will have some mercury in its

system, as does my son, since I did not have the amalgam removal till long

after his birth. But, as with all toxins, the body will do its best to detoxify.

Nutrients are the best defense. The reason why I hope you do not worry too

much is that the stress you may feel will also have an affect on your baby.

Stress produces many toxins as well. So, all you can do is your best to keep

eating healthy foods and keep a joyful attitude about the new life you are

bringing

into this world.

Sun Chlorella is a chlorophyll tablet. I am sure they have a website and it

can be purchased at many health food stores. I am sure any chlorophyll source

will do, as will cilantro. But, again these are not serious detox measures, and

once you have your child weened, you may want to tackle a rigorous program.

There are many books out there about mercury poisoning from amalgams, but one

that my nutripath recommends is called Cutler's Mercury Detox

Protocol---can be purchased by calling 425-557-8299. But there are probably many

other

sources more easily accessible to you.

I have been tested both by hair analysis (less reliable), and urine testing

(more reliable), and both indicated very high levels of mercury. I do not have

any debilitating effects from the mercury, but feel my digestion and liver

function are taxed because of the mercury load. I have been doing different

detox

protocols for the past year, some mild, others more aggressive (when I am up

for it), and am noticing gradual improvement. It is a process that can take

many years to complete. But, again, the best thing you can do for you and your

child are eat plenty of nutrient-dense foods and go with the flow of

motherhood-----don't worry...be happy!!!!

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

i had my mercury fillings replaced a little less than two years ago. i would

certainly advise having the biocompatibility test before doing anything. even

though i knew about the test, i didn't have it done and now i am having to

replace everything---again. it's a long story and a bit of a nightmare i am

still in the middle of. also, check carefully into what's in those composites,

even if a allergy/sensitivity doesn't show up on the bio compatibility test.

turns out mine release fluoride on a continual basis (designed to do so!) which

i did not know until i researched things further. the test by the way, is about

$200.00, generally not covered by any insurance. doing the test, i could have

avoided much heartache and a ton of money. this second round of replacements

are not covered by insurance. i went through the international association of

oral and medical toxicologists to find my current dentist (www.iaomt.org) but i

think they are set up differently now, you may have to go another route. a good

place to start is DAMS, a dental help organization. i'll have to look up the

info and give it to you later, if you like. another thing, after reading your

later posts, Dawn--remember a lot of us had our mercury intact when we had our

babies, too. we just didn't know what we know now!

sonya

Mercury fillings

Anyone ever had mercury fillings removed and replaced with composites?

What effect did it have? I have mercury fillings and I just read

that the mercury not only has been harming me, it can cross the

placenta into the fetus (not good since I'm pregnant). I'm assuming

now wouldn't be a good time to get them replaced, but I'm considering

having it done after the baby is born. I'd appreciate any information

you may have on your own experiences.

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

here is the rest of what i i wanted to say, don't know why it gets cut off

sometimes.

i think the set up is different now. you can go through DAMS, a dental help

society. i will look up the info on that and give it to you later, if you like.

i know you are worried about being pregnant and having those mercury fillings,

but remember that most, if not all, of us had our babies under the same

circumstances. we just didn't know what we know now. and i know that i didn't

have the benefit of a good diet like i do now, either, which you do have!

sonya

Mercury fillings

Anyone ever had mercury fillings removed and replaced with composites?

What effect did it have? I have mercury fillings and I just read

that the mercury not only has been harming me, it can cross the

placenta into the fetus (not good since I'm pregnant). I'm assuming

now wouldn't be a good time to get them replaced, but I'm considering

having it done after the baby is born. I'd appreciate any information

you may have on your own experiences.

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Not to provide alarm just caution. The following is from another list. I've

removed the names but can vouch for the credibility of the replier who I've

talked to many times and lives in this area. She is a Master Gardener and

could

be a Master Herbalist.

Wanita

Reply:

Subject: Re: Cilantro to rid of heavy metal toxins

hmmm...

I guess I need to start catching up on list mail,

has anyone mentioned that this can be a very dangerous practice if you still

have mercury fillings and other fixed mercury in place? Read the Amalgam

list..there are quite a few there who have gotten quite harmed by this. It

is only good if all fixed mercury has been removed and you are doing a post

removal clean up...but even then tricky...or with *no* fixed mercury in your

system....and if that is the case,,,well...good to eat with toxic fish I

suppose. ******

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> I just read of this in more details and ****** posted this article and

> recipe and I thought to share.

********

>

> Cilantro Pesto

> Raw Cilantro is said to remove heavy metals: heavy metal poisoning is

> rampant. It is a major cause of hormonal imbalances, cancer, thyroid

> problems, neurological disturbances, learning problems, depression, food

> allergies, parasites, etc. This is a great recipe that is not only easy to

> make but also really yummy and it helps you remove heavy metals from your

> body!

>

> Raw cilantro is truly a healing food. Cilantro has been proven to chelate

> toxic metals from our bodies in a relatively short period of time. One

> friend suffering from high blood pressure due to mercury poisoning had her

> blood pressure return to normal after eating two teaspoons of this pesto

> daily for only a week. Two teaspoons of this pesto daily for 3 weeks is

> purportedly enough to increase the urinary excretion of mercury, lead and

> aluminum, thus effectively removing these toxic metals from our bodies. So

> whether you need to detoxify heavy metals from your body or just wish to

use

> it as a preventative measure that tastes wonderful, 2 teaspoons a day is

all

> you need to take. Consider doing this cleanse for three weeks at least

> several times a year. This pesto has now become a regular part of my diet.

> Combined with the benefits of the other ingredients, this recipe is a

> powerful tissue cleanser. ENJOY !!

>

> Cilantro Chelation Raw Pesto:

> 4 cloves raw garlic

> 1/3 cup raw Brazil nuts (selenium)

> 1/3 cup raw sunflower seeds (cysteine)

> 1/3 cup raw pumpkin seeds (zinc, magnesium)

> 2 cups packed fresh raw cilantro (coriander, Chinese parsley) (vitamin A)

> 2/3 cup raw, cold-pressed flaxseed oil 4 tablespoons raw

> fresh lemon juice (vitamin C)

> 2 tsp dulse powder

> Sea salt to taste

> Process the cilantro and flaxseed oil in a blender until the cilantro is

> chopped. Add the garlic, nuts and seeds, dulse and lemon juice and mix

until

> the mixture is finely blended into a paste. Add a pinch of sea salt to

taste

> and blend again. Store in dark glass jars if possible. It freezes well, so

> purchase cilantro in season and fill enough jars to last through the year.

[Guest guest]

> > I personally wouldn't feel comfortable doing any detoxing while pregnant

or

> > nursing.

> >

>

> Linnea,

>

> I agree with you about doing any aggressive detoxing, but using a food

such

> as chlorella is not going to cause that kind of detox effect. Remember,

our

> livers are constantly detoxing......we hope.

>

> Theresa

Because chlorella is what my doctor gave me for my mercury detox prior to

and following amalgam removal, I assumed it was rather agressive. It felt

like an aggressive detox. Perhaps it is all a matter of quantity.

-Linnea

[Guest guest]

Wanita-

>Not to provide alarm just caution.

I think it's pretty universally understood that you have to remove all

fixed mercury sources first, such as amalgam fillings. (Well, probably

only amalgam fillings.) What I've also heard, though, is that by itself,

cilantro only mobilizes the mercury, and that you need to take alpha lipoic

acid to actually excrete it all.

-

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Get yourself a Grander Water Energizer and you will not absorb the mercury

(non will your baby)

Then you can get the mercury out after its birth.

Read 'How We Heal' by on for more info

www.grander.com is also good. Johan Grander was awarded the silver medal

from the russian academy of science for a reason It works!

Ciao, Chris

Melb, Oz

>From: Polyclean@...

>Reply-

>

>CC: Polyclean@...

>Subject: Re: Mercury fillings

>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 00:37:57 EDT

>

>In a message dated 6/9/2003 12:34:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

>k1fun@...

>writes:

>

> > I personally wouldn't feel comfortable doing any detoxing while pregnant

>or

> > nursing.

> >

>

>Linnea,

>

>I agree with you about doing any aggressive detoxing, but using a food such

>as chlorella is not going to cause that kind of detox effect. Remember, our

>livers are constantly detoxing......we hope.

>

>Theresa

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chris-

>Get yourself a Grander Water Energizer and you will not absorb the mercury

>(non will your baby)

Haven't there been a lot of claims for the Grander system which wound up

being totally unsupported?

-

[Guest guest]

>>>>>I guess I need to start catching up on list mail,

has anyone mentioned that this can be a very dangerous practice if you still

have mercury fillings and other fixed mercury in place? Read the Amalgam

list..there are quite a few there who have gotten quite harmed by this. It

is only good if all fixed mercury has been removed and you are doing a post

removal clean up...but even then tricky...or with *no* fixed mercury in your

system....and if that is the case,,,well...good to eat with toxic fish I

suppose. ******

-------->OTOH, it's possible that there's very little actual mercury left in

some of our older *fillings* (not talking about that deposited in body

tissue). Here's something that marla posted to beyondprice last year when we

had a thread on this:

4. The average amalgam filling has approximately 0.5 grams(500,000 ug) of

mercury. As much as 50% of mercury in fillings has been found to have

vaporized after 5 years and 80% by 20 years(182,204). Mercury vapor from

amalgam is the single largest source of systemic mercury intake for persons

with amalgam fillings, ranging from 50 to 90 % of total exposure.

(14,16,17,19,36,57,61,78-83,94,129,130,138,161,167,183, 191,

196,211,216,273,292,303,332,), averaging about 80% of total systemic intake.

After filling replacement levels of mercury in the blood, urine, and feces

typically temporarily are increased for a few days, but levels usually

decline in blood and urine within 6 months to from 60 to 85% of the original

levels(57,79,82,89,196,303). Mercury levels in saliva and feces usually

decline between 80 to 95% (79,196,335,386)

http://www.cqs.com/amalgam.htm

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

>I bet lots of people here have similar stories, and we turned out ok. And

>we're doing even better since we read Nourishing Traditions. In that

>respect your child has a huge benefit.

When I was a kid my mom used to give us the mercury out of broken

thermometers to play with. When SHE was a kid, she had a whole pint of the

stuff, she said it was great fun! We used to love rubbing it on a dime with

our fingers and watching the dime get all shiny.

NOT that I am recommending this! We just didn't know any better. But

somehow we survived.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Heidi-

>NOT that I am recommending this! We just didn't know any better. But

>somehow we survived.

When my girlfriend was a kid, her... uncle, or her dad, I forget, who was a

mechanic at the time, would break open some car part which had a lot of

mercury in it and let her play with it on the garage floor. They did this

all the time, and now she has tons of symptoms of mercury poisoning. (Of

course she also has a mouth full of amalgam, so who knows which source was

worse.)

-

[Guest guest]

>> >Get yourself a Grander Water Energizer and you will not absorb the

>>mercury

> >(non will your baby)

>

>Haven't there been a lot of claims for the Grander system which wound up

>being totally unsupported?

>

None that i'm aware of.... Some have experienced (so i've heard) kidney

problems...

Well, the grander units work, so if you're toxic (and who isn't) your

kidneys are gonna have to work hard for a while, so probably a good idea to

support the whole body (ie colon, liver, skin etc) as the body eliminates.

I've only heard good results, and i've been researching/using Grander water

for 6-7 years.

Plants watered with it respond phenomenally well! So do animals. Do a little

research.

Grander came out with his products and no one understood (and still don't)

how they work, so they trashed him, etc. Many companies trie to copy his

product, but they don't get the same results.

Grander had quite a battle on his hands to get this technology out to the

people, i have nothing but gratitude for his efforts.

They've used his units to revitalise 'dead' lakes, affected by radioactive

waste, where nothing would grow, and now those lakes are thriving.

Russia's using it to clean up their radioactive waste, but you won't hear

that on the news

Using his technology (he says its gods, not his- hes much too humble to say

its 'his') we could restore health to the whole planet for peanuts, but big

business says no, too cheap.

We could all be using free energy if we weren't all so greedy

All the best, Chris

_________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

>. They did this

>all the time, and now she has tons of symptoms of mercury poisoning. (Of

>course she also has a mouth full of amalgam, so who knows which source was

>worse.)

Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the Romans. (not " Roman " of course). They

used to put this white powder in their wine, I read, for flavor. It just

happened to be a compound of lead ... that and drinking from pewter cups

.... rotted the brains of many of the elite class, who could afford metal

cups and lots of wine.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

>Get yourself a Grander Water Energizer and you will not absorb the

>mercury. Johan Grander was awarded the silver medal from the russian

>academy of science for a reason It works!

I don't know anything about Grander, but the Russian Academy of Natural

Science has also accredited " The League of Independent Astrologers "

http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:jvCCIK2X_pAJ:astrol.ru/english.htm+%22Russi\

an+Academy+of+Natural+Sciences%22 & hl=en & ie=UTF-8

nothing wrong with that and I enjoy Astrology and new ideas, but getting

an award from the RANS is not a stamp of scientific legitimacy, at least

Science as we know it in the West.

--

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/11/03 3:52:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

heidis@... writes:

> Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the Romans. (not " Roman " of course). They

> used to put this white powder in their wine, I read, for flavor. It just

> happened to be a compound of lead ... that and drinking from pewter cups

> ... rotted the brains of many of the elite class, who could afford metal

> cups and lots of wine.

Aresenic had at least 30 common uses in n England, from wallpaper to

pastries, which it was a common problem for one's nose to collapse. Arsenic

was used to color pastries green, lead to give them " body. "

-chris

[Guest guest]

>Aresenic had at least 30 common uses in n England, from wallpaper to

>pastries, which it was a common problem for one's nose to collapse. Arsenic

>was used to color pastries green, lead to give them " body. "

>

>-chris

Hmmm ... arsenic/lead laced pastries! It was also a " cure " for syphilus,

and if you were diagnosed you could buy arsenic-laced chocolates to treat

your wife, so that you would not have to bring up the subject with her ...

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Hi Sonya,

Thanks for your calming words. As you must know from experience, when

you're pregnant the last thing you want to hear is that you're passing

toxicity along to your baby! Thanks for the information too. I guess

once I start weaning the baby I'll look into getting my fillings

redone. I have allergies (hay fever) and they're are driving me

crazy. If they are related to the mercury then I can't wait to get

them out.

If you do get the chance, please let me know about any further

information you may have about finding a suitable dentist. Thanks a lot.

Dawn

> Hi Dawn,

>

> i had my mercury fillings replaced a little less than two years ago.

i would certainly advise having the biocompatibility test before

doing anything. even though i knew about the test, i didn't have it

done and now i am having to replace everything---again. it's a long

story and a bit of a nightmare i am still in the middle of. also,

check carefully into what's in those composites, even if a

allergy/sensitivity doesn't show up on the bio compatibility test.

turns out mine release fluoride on a continual basis (designed to do

so!) which i did not know until i researched things further. the test

by the way, is about $200.00, generally not covered by any insurance.

doing the test, i could have avoided much heartache and a ton of

money. this second round of replacements are not covered by

insurance. i went through the international association of oral and

medical toxicologists to find my current dentist (www.iaomt.org) but i

think they are set up differently now, you may have to go another

route. a good place to start is DAMS, a dental help organization.

i'll have to look up the info and give it to you later, if you like.

another thing, after reading your later posts, Dawn--remember a lot of

us had our mercury intact when we had our babies, too. we just didn't

know what we know now!

>

> sonya

> Mercury fillings

>

>

> Anyone ever had mercury fillings removed and replaced with composites?

> What effect did it have? I have mercury fillings and I just read

> that the mercury not only has been harming me, it can cross the

> placenta into the fetus (not good since I'm pregnant). I'm assuming

> now wouldn't be a good time to get them replaced, but I'm considering

> having it done after the baby is born. I'd appreciate any information

> you may have on your own experiences.

>

> Dawn

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Theresa,

Thanks for all of your advice. As I said to Sonya, it's so hard when

you're pregnant not worrying. You just want everything to be perfect

for that little baby you feel moving around inside of you. But you're

right, I can't do anything now and stressing certainly won't help.

Sometimes I totally understand why they say " ignorance is bliss " .

I've even stopped reading my pregnancy books because they just give

you too much information. I follow NT and try to get out and walk

some every day and to just RELAX, which is probably the best thing.

Thanks again for all the information and nice words,

Dawn

> Dawn,

>

> Please try not to worry too much. Yes your baby will have some

mercury in its

> system, as does my son, since I did not have the amalgam removal

till long

> after his birth. But, as with all toxins, the body will do its best

to detoxify.

> Nutrients are the best defense. The reason why I hope you do not

worry too

> much is that the stress you may feel will also have an affect on

your baby.

> Stress produces many toxins as well. So, all you can do is your best

to keep

> eating healthy foods and keep a joyful attitude about the new life

you are bringing

> into this world.

>

> Sun Chlorella is a chlorophyll tablet. I am sure they have a website

and it

> can be purchased at many health food stores. I am sure any

chlorophyll source

> will do, as will cilantro. But, again these are not serious detox

measures, and

> once you have your child weened, you may want to tackle a rigorous

program.

> There are many books out there about mercury poisoning from

amalgams, but one

> that my nutripath recommends is called Cutler's Mercury Detox

> Protocol---can be purchased by calling 425-557-8299. But there are

probably many other

> sources more easily accessible to you.

>

> I have been tested both by hair analysis (less reliable), and urine

testing

> (more reliable), and both indicated very high levels of mercury. I

do not have

> any debilitating effects from the mercury, but feel my digestion and

liver

> function are taxed because of the mercury load. I have been doing

different detox

> protocols for the past year, some mild, others more aggressive (when

I am up

> for it), and am noticing gradual improvement. It is a process that

can take

> many years to complete. But, again, the best thing you can do for

you and your

> child are eat plenty of nutrient-dense foods and go with the flow of

> motherhood-----don't worry...be happy!!!!

>

> Theresa

>

>

>