Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 <<Any ideas how to sweeten and elevate this blend. Its nice but a little to subtle and bland.>> Hi Terry, Amber perfumes are one of my top 5 favorite scents! You might try using some Oppoponax (sweet myrhh) & honey absolute, to sweeten it up! A dash of Allspice as a top note is also very wonderful with amber! best regards, Pixie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 > You might try using some Oppoponax (sweet myrhh) & honey absolute, to sweeten it up! A dash of Allspice as a top note is also very wonderful with amber! > > best regards, > Pixie > > Hi Pixie, Thanks so much for your suggestions...I added just a touch of Allspice and Opoponax and WOW! Wonderful...My blend is no longer bland. I'm liking this. Family members are all wearing it (poor souls. They suffer greatly for my art). For those interested the blend consists of Ambriene (labdanum absolute), Vanilla, Benzoin, and small amount of Allspice and opoponax. Lovely! Unfortunately my Honey absolute is all disolved in alcohol - my fragrances are usually alcohol based. oh well May the fragrance of heaven grace your steps Terry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Amber, Does your child have Congenital? Or a syndrome? I am asking because you mentioned prolonging until surgery. Crista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Amber, Do you know if your little one has infantile (non structural) scoliosis or congenital (stuctural)? If its determined that your babe has infantile, I would recommend finding a doc that will cast asap. Applying a series of POP jackets to a little one with a 59 degree infantile curve should yeild great results. Please take a look at some of the testimonials on www.infantilescoliosis.org . The key is early treatment. Yes, there is a window of time that shouldnt be passed up.... The sooner, the better! (if its determined that its non structural scoli) Sincerely, HRH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Rivendell Aromatics wrote: > I was just reading Celia Lyttelton's book 'The Scent Trail'. > She said that Amber is the hard resin from Cistus...also known as > labdanum. That is the first I've ever heard that. > I thought Amber was a blend of oils, and could be any number of > different oils, depending on where you get the recipe. > Probably both explanations? > Sandy Messori > Rivendell Aromatics > Ojai, California USA > www.rivendellaromatics.com > 805 649-2476 > Hi Sandy: All of the above are sort of correct! But a bit incorrect, too. I have that book on order, should be here any day, so I can take a closer look. Cistus is from the same plant as labdanum. Will of EB has a great deal of info on it here http://www.edenbotanicals.com/essentials5.html and look in our Files section under " About Amber oil by Will, also. -- Sincerely, Anya Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://AnyasGarden.com Natural Perfumers Guild http://NaturalPerfumersGuild.com Natural Perfumers 1200+ members Group http://tinyurl.com/78kmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hi Anya, About amber, I remember that Mandy Aftel in her book Essence and Alchemy gave the recipe to make a beautiful amber with labdanum for worn alone or as a base for a perfume : 30 drops labdanum 120 drops benzoin 6 drops vanilla Sincerely, Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 > I was just reading Celia Lyttelton's book 'The Scent Trail'. > She said that Amber is the hard resin from Cistus...also known as > labdanum. That is the first I've ever heard that. > I thought Amber was a blend of oils, and could be any number of > different oils, depending on where you get the recipe. > Sandy Messori Hi Sandy, It's hard to put Amber into one catagory, but yes, in the perfume industry when they list Amber they are typically refering to Labdanum. Labdanum and all its various products is a whole study in itself... The resin is not typically a hard resin however, and is actually an oleoresin extracted by boiling the whole plant in water. The resulting Labdanum Gum contains 5% to 20% water and so it is a semi-solid. If you were to let it dry completely, then it would be hard, and this may be done for specific reasons (or by accident). The Labdanum Gum is then subjected to all kinds of solvents in order to make the various Labdanum products, of which there are a great many... all varieties of absolutes, de- colorized absolutes, resinoids, so-called ambreines, and fractions of Labdanum. Labdanum and its variations are very widely used in perfumery. The original and traditional Amber is Ambergris, an expellsion from the Sperm Whale. It is highly coveted, expensive, and little used these days outside of very high end perfumery. There are various synthetic Ambergris type aroma chemicals, but they do not do justice to the real thing. The interesting thing regarding Ambergris and Labdanum is that the Cistus plant and Labdanum is the only known plant source of one of the key aromatic constituents of Ambergris. So, even though the aroma of Ambergris and Labdanum are quite different, they do share this key constituent... The other type of Amber is the Amber Accord, which is a blend of aromatic oils - sometimes natural, sometimes synthetic and sometimes a hybrid of the two. Typically, these will have Labdanum as an ingedient, but the formulas vary widely... Happy Blending, Will Lapaz Eden Botanicals Currently offering 4 Labdanum products. Look for Labdanum and Cistus fractions coming soon (meaning sooner or later) to Eden Botanicals. Also, we just got in a very fresh and herbaceous Cistus essential oil that is unique and quite beautiful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 theresesteigert wrote: > Hi Anya, > > About amber, I remember that Mandy Aftel in her book Essence and > Alchemy gave the recipe to make a beautiful amber with labdanum > for worn alone or as a base for a perfume : > 30 drops labdanum > 120 drops benzoin > 6 drops vanilla > Sincerely, > Therese Hi Therese Yes, Mandy shared that, and it's a classic, and I believe she also said to play around with it, there are many variations on the " amber " scent. I would encourage you to simplify the counting of drops. If you have a scale, just weigh out 1 gm of labdanum, 4 grams of benzoin, and dropper in some vanilla until you reach the scent you want. You could, of course, halve or quarter those weights. - Sincerely, Anya Anya's Garden of Natural Perfume http://AnyasGarden.com Natural Perfumers Guild http://NaturalPerfumersGuild.com Natural Perfumers 1200+ members Group http://tinyurl.com/78kmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Edited for brevity --- Anya <anya@...> wrote: > Hi Therese > Yes, Mandy shared that, and it's a classic, and I > believe she also said > to play around with it, there are many variations on > the " amber " scent. > > hello, It's very serendipitous that this topic of Aftel's Amber recipe arose today. I'm embarassed to admit I tried this combination from Essence and Alchemy to horrid results and was hoping maybe someone might help me troubleshoot where I went wrong. I heated up the labdanum in a cup of very hot water (as Mandy recommended), I also heated up the benzoin to help thin it out as it also is very thick. I added the correct quantities with the vanilla, but for some reason the benzion wouldn't dissolve into my alcohol solution. I stirred and stirred and was still left with a blob of benzoin that wouldn't dissolve. I even tried gently heating the mixture in a cup of warm water after it's creation, but nothing seemed to help. Now I'm left with a dark brown sticky creation with " floaters. " Yikes. Any advice? p.s. I assume I'm using the correct grade alcohol, purchased from Remet years ago. I checked the bottle, it reads " Ethanol Solutions 3, 190 proof UN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Edited to snip and trim.. > hello, > It's very serendipitous that this topic of Aftel's > Amber recipe arose today. I'm embarassed to admit I > tried this combination from Essence and Alchemy to > horrid results and was hoping maybe someone might help > me troubleshoot where I went wrong...... <Snip> Hi Charna, Anya is right. I made this amber formulation with variations on accord I wondering that your result was horrid. I heated not labdanum and added not alcohol. These amber smells better as ambregris attar that I sell recently by ambreessence.com. I use it alone or melt it with other EO to make blends. Sincerely, Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 my bad - i did know that amber is a resin. sorry i wrote eo. i am just not femiliar w/it or it's scent & wanted to know if there was something i could duplicate it with. charlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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