Re: EPA & the Insect Repellent Registration Saga Continues...

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Yes, its truly amazing. There are literally thousands of illegal

products on the market. If the EPA ever needed some cash they could

certainly do a big sweep and make alot of small producers lives

miserable. I just responded to your other post with the info about

what I am doing and perhaps others may find it to be the best option

for the moment. I mean that is until the EPA increases their list of

EXEMPTS.

Take care,

Have a great day,

R. Lorenti Jr.

mlorenti@...

www.sensatia.com

On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:31 AM, greengirlh2 wrote:

> I've been looking around and a LOT of people sell some kind of " bug

> off " " bug away " EO product and no mention of the EPA. I posted on

> another list to ask how they got around the issue...here is a link:

>

> http://www.siblinggroup.com/

>

> The owner publishes an herbal magazine so she is very knowledgeable

> about the issues, and she herself sells a " bug off " product. Maybe she

> can help you!

>

> Sue

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

> By the suggestion of Vicki Parsons from Neem Tree Farms, I dug deeper

into the " Exempted Products " list and found a total of 31 active (yes

31 out of the thousands of potential insect repelling botanicals, dried

blood is even on the EPA's exempt actives but lavender oil is not) and

a bigger list of exempt inerts.<

She's GREAT! Very knowledgeable. I learned of her because she's also

one who took the Natural Ingredient Resource Center " Truth in Labeling "

pledge [that's the organization I founded a few years back[. Sue

[Guest guest]

Oh Sue, I didnt realize that you are the one who founded NIRC. We are

a member too. Did you realize that? Maybe not huh, because I didnt

realize I was talking to the founder either, hehehehe.

Great Work Sue, we are happy to be involved and you may have noticed

my cross posts because I sometimes ask the same question or post the

same info on both this group and the NIRC board.

How cool! Keep up the great work. Sincerely,

Have a great day,

R. Lorenti Jr.

mlorenti@...

www.sensatia.com

On Mar 28, 2008, at 9:34 AM, greengirlh2 wrote:

> > By the suggestion of Vicki Parsons from Neem Tree Farms, I dug

> deeper

> into the " Exempted Products " list and found a total of 31 active (yes

> 31 out of the thousands of potential insect repelling botanicals,

> dried

> blood is even on the EPA's exempt actives but lavender oil is not) and

> a bigger list of exempt inerts.<

>

> She's GREAT! Very knowledgeable. I learned of her because she's also

> one who took the Natural Ingredient Resource Center " Truth in

> Labeling "

> pledge [that's the organization I founded a few years back[. Sue

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

This makes no sense to me because Lavender is a very safe essential

oil and Cinnamon, which is on their exempted list can cause skin

irritation...

Carol

>

> Hi Sue,

>

> That is DEFINITELY NOT true either. According to the EPA (believe me,

> I was in an email battle with them for a month) IF A PRODUCT SIMPLY

> " IMPLIES " IT CAN BE USED AS AN INSECT REPELLENT THEN IT MUST BE

> REGISTERED. So if you make, " Sunburn relief lotion " (not regulated by

> the EPA) and say either on your website, promotion material, or the

> product packaging itself, that also " bugs dont like it " , EVEN THOUGH

> THE NAME DOES NOT INDICATE IT IS A REPELLENT WHATSOEVER, it is

> classified as a PESTICIDE by the EPA and must be registered.

>

> By the suggestion of Vicki Parsons from Neem Tree Farms, I dug deeper

> into the " Exempted Products " list and found a total of 31 active (yes

> 31 out of the thousands of potential insect repelling botanicals,

> dried blood is even on the EPA's exempt actives but lavender oil is

> not) and a bigger list of exempt inerts.

>

> So though it is a bit limiting, I think the best idea is to simply

> conform to their list of EXEMPTS and legally produce our Botanical Bug-

>

[Guest guest]

> Oh Sue, I didnt realize that you are the one who founded NIRC. We are

> a member too. Did you realize that? Maybe not huh, because I didnt

> realize I was talking to the founder either, hehehehe.

>

> Great Work Sue, we are happy to be involved and you may have noticed

> my cross posts because I sometimes ask the same question or post the

> same info on both this group and the NIRC board.<

I saw the logo when I visited your website...and was thrilled! I

haven't been involved in a couple years, it became too much for me to

do single handed so I was very fortunate to have my plea for help

answered by a wonderful group of advisors who took the organization

over. [http://www.naturalingredient.org/newsletter/newsletter1.html]

Sue

[Guest guest]

BINGO..... I've said it all to them directly until I was blue in the

face. I had to just give up for my own sanity.

Wintergreen oil is also listed on their list of EXEMPT INERTS. We all

know how toxic wintergreen oil can be!!!!

Have a great day,

R. Lorenti Jr.

mlorenti@...

www.sensatia.com

YM id: sensatia_botanicals

On Mar 31, 2008, at 9:20 AM, c_schroden wrote:

> Hi,

> This makes no sense to me because Lavender is a very safe essential

> oil and Cinnamon, which is on their exempted list can cause skin

> irritation...

> Carol

>

>

> >

> > Hi Sue,

> >

> > That is DEFINITELY NOT true either. According to the EPA (believe

> me,

> > I was in an email battle with them for a month) IF A PRODUCT SIMPLY

> > " IMPLIES " IT CAN BE USED AS AN INSECT REPELLENT THEN IT MUST BE

> > REGISTERED. So if you make, " Sunburn relief lotion " (not regulated

> by

> > the EPA) and say either on your website, promotion material, or the

> > product packaging itself, that also " bugs dont like it " , EVEN THOUGH

> > THE NAME DOES NOT INDICATE IT IS A REPELLENT WHATSOEVER, it is

> > classified as a PESTICIDE by the EPA and must be registered.

> >

> > By the suggestion of Vicki Parsons from Neem Tree Farms, I dug

> deeper

> > into the " Exempted Products " list and found a total of 31 active

> (yes

> > 31 out of the thousands of potential insect repelling botanicals,

> > dried blood is even on the EPA's exempt actives but lavender oil is

> > not) and a bigger list of exempt inerts.

> >

> > So though it is a bit limiting, I think the best idea is to simply

> > conform to their list of EXEMPTS and legally produce our Botanical

> Bug-

> >

>