Looking for magical conversion (pounds to liquid ounces)

[Guest guest]

If you melt just a dry ounce and measure what that is as a liquid ounce,

then multiply that by 16, would that give you the right answer?

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Looking for magical conversion (pounds to liquid

ounces)

Hello all.

Does anyone know what a pound of shea butter yields in liquid ounces?

I've been looking for this info on the web and can't find a thing.

K

.

[Guest guest]

if you know the specific gravity of a substance, you can calculate its

volume from its weight; there isn’t a simple conversion from weight to

volume b/c the density of substances varies from one thing to another –

just for example, not all oils weigh the same b/c some are more dense

than others (generally speaking, the more viscous the oil is, the less

dense it is), so when measuring oils, heavier (denser) oils have lower

volumes, and lighter (less dense) oils have higher volumes, so using a

direct “1 lb = 16 (fl) oz” conversion would yield inaccurate results…

sorry I can’t give an easy answer, but at least I gave an explanation as

to why not! <g>

kind rgds,

Ross

So Scentsible

Looking for magical conversion (pounds to

liquid

ounces)

Hello all.

Does anyone know what a pound of shea butter yields in liquid ounces?

I've been looking for this info on the web and can't find a thing.

K

..

[Guest guest]

well a pound is still a pound - and formularies work

on weight ratios.. not volume - I guess the real

question I have is this - the shea butter is butter,

not oil so it's only liquid while hot enough to be

liquid???

so why are you trying to figure this out??

A gallon of water is 128 fl oz and weighs ? about 8

lbs I think- actually 8.34 134 oz apprx - a difference

of 6 oz -which translates to .75 oz difference per lb

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meaning if it weighs 16 oz it fills 16.75 oz

this is for water...I think most oils weigh closer to

7lbs

I would check with Mike at Columbus Foods - soapers

choice I think is their subsite for oils and butters.

I THINK a gallon of oil typically weighs 7lbs [112 oz]

128/112 = .875 x 16 =14 liquid ounces.

whereas water by weight would be a tad over 16 oz oil

would be under

at 14 liquid oz

HTH

Willow

PS why don't you test it???

--- misterstimulation <misterstimulation@...>

wrote:

> Hello all.

>

> Does anyone know what a pound of shea butter yields

> in liquid ounces?

>

> I've been looking for this info on the web and can't

> find a thing.

>

>

>

> K

>

>

[Guest guest]

Melt a pound of shea butter and put it into a measuring bowl.

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Subject: Looking for magical conversion (pounds to liquid

ounces)

Hello all.

Does anyone know what a pound of shea butter yields in liquid ounces?

I've been looking for this info on the web and can't find a thing.

K

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[Guest guest]

Okay okay, I've done the math to end the torture. Man, step outside our

normal realm of calculations and the insanity never stops. This is exactly

the reason why the U.S. needs to switch over to the metric system. It is so

much easier!!

First off shea butter is a fat. Fats, oils, and butters - whatever

substance we use to saponify into soap, or emulsify for lotions etc. - are

all fats, lipids, triglycerides. They all consist of a glyceride molecule

attached to three molecules of fatty acid. They only differ in the carbon

chain length and hydrogen saturation of the fatty acids. Those differences

lead to their difference in melting points, densities, boiling points etc.

etc. We tend to call them all fats simply because as the temperature

approaches zero degrees Kelvin (-273.15 Celsius, or absolute zero), all

lipids precipitate into a solid. Well, pretty much everything becomes a

solid.

Now to answer the original question - there is no magical conversion. The

MSDS density for unrefined shea butter is .9 grams per cubic centimeter.

Refining shea butter will most likely give it a different density. The

level of refinement will most likely affect its final density. So I'm only

doing the math on the unrefined butter. So here is the math. It's like

stoichiometry in chemistry.

The facts:

1 pound shea butter

1 pound = 453.59237 grams.

1 cubic centimeter = 0.033814023 ounces [uS, liquid].

Density of unrefined shea butter is .9 grams per cubic centimeter.

The explanation: (for those who don't understand stoichiometry)

It's kind of like a maze. You want to start at the end and end at the

start. We want our final unit of measure to be ounces. So we make sure

ounce is the numerator of the last ratio (or fraction) in the calculation.

1 cc = .033814023 ounces can be use as a ratio in an equation two different

ways - 1 cc per .033814023 ounces or .033814023 ounces per 1 cc. In an

equation they would look as such:

A) 1 cc / .033814023 ounces OR

.033814023 ounces / 1 cc

Given that we want ounces in the numerator, we use option B.

Now with ounces in the numerator that leaves cc in the denominator. So we

need the ratio before it to have the cc in the numerator. Therefore we need

to represent the density in away that puts its cc in the numerator. Don't

let this confuse you. True, density is defined (typically) as mass per

volume. However, this is a ratio that can be manipulated. The density that

I'm using is .9 grams per cubic centimeter (.9 g / cc). Meaning that .9

grams of shea butter will fill the volume of 1 cubic centimeter - OR - every

1 cubic centimeter of shea butter will weigh .9 grams. In an equation, the

two would look like one of the following options:

A) .9 g / 1 cc OR

1 cc / .9 g

Again given that we want our unit of volume in the numerator, we use option

B.

This brings us to the beginning with 453.59237 grams.

The equation:

453.59237 grams (1 cc / .9 g) (.033814023 ounces / 1 cc)

(453.59237 / .9 x .033814023) ounces

The answer:

17.042 ounces

One pound of unrefined shea butter fills the volume of 17.042 liquid ounces.

Randy

[Guest guest]

hmmmm doesn't seem possible.

--- Talzarich <talzarich@...> wrote:

> Okay okay, I've done the math to end the torture.

> Man, step outside our

> normal realm of calculations and the insanity never

> stops. This is exactly

> the reason why the U.S. needs to switch over to the

> metric system. It is so

> much easier!!

>

>

>

> First off shea butter is a fat. Fats, oils, and

> butters - whatever

> substance we use to saponify into soap, or emulsify

> for lotions etc. - are

> all fats, lipids, triglycerides. They all consist

> of a glyceride molecule

> attached to three molecules of fatty acid. They

> only differ in the carbon

> chain length and hydrogen saturation of the fatty

> acids. Those differences

> lead to their difference in melting points,

> densities, boiling points etc.

> etc. We tend to call them all fats simply because

> as the temperature

> approaches zero degrees Kelvin (-273.15 Celsius, or

> absolute zero), all

> lipids precipitate into a solid. Well, pretty much

> everything becomes a

> solid.

>

>

>

> Now to answer the original question - there is no

> magical conversion. The

> MSDS density for unrefined shea butter is .9 grams

> per cubic centimeter.

> Refining shea butter will most likely give it a

> different density. The

> level of refinement will most likely affect its

> final density. So I'm only

> doing the math on the unrefined butter. So here is

> the math. It's like

> stoichiometry in chemistry.

>

>

>

> The facts:

>

> 1 pound shea butter

>

> 1 pound = 453.59237 grams.

>

> 1 cubic centimeter = 0.033814023 ounces [uS,

> liquid].

>

> Density of unrefined shea butter is .9 grams per

> cubic centimeter.

>

>

>

> The explanation: (for those who don't understand

> stoichiometry)

>

> It's kind of like a maze. You want to start at the

> end and end at the

> start. We want our final unit of measure to be

> ounces. So we make sure

> ounce is the numerator of the last ratio (or

> fraction) in the calculation.

> 1 cc = .033814023 ounces can be use as a ratio in an

> equation two different

> ways - 1 cc per .033814023 ounces or .033814023

> ounces per 1 cc. In an

> equation they would look as such:

>

>

>

> A) 1 cc / .033814023 ounces OR

>

> .033814023 ounces / 1 cc

>

>

>

> Given that we want ounces in the numerator, we use

> option B.

>

>

>

> Now with ounces in the numerator that leaves cc in

> the denominator. So we

> need the ratio before it to have the cc in the

> numerator. Therefore we need

> to represent the density in away that puts its cc in

> the numerator. Don't

> let this confuse you. True, density is defined

> (typically) as mass per

> volume. However, this is a ratio that can be

> manipulated. The density that

> I'm using is .9 grams per cubic centimeter (.9 g /

> cc). Meaning that .9

> grams of shea butter will fill the volume of 1 cubic

> centimeter - OR - every

> 1 cubic centimeter of shea butter will weigh .9

> grams. In an equation, the

> two would look like one of the following options:

>

>

>

> A) .9 g / 1 cc OR

>

> 1 cc / .9 g

>

>

>

> Again given that we want our unit of volume in the

> numerator, we use option

> B.

>

>

>

> This brings us to the beginning with 453.59237

> grams.

>

>

>

> The equation:

>

> 453.59237 grams (1 cc / .9 g) (.033814023 ounces / 1

> cc)

>

> (453.59237 / .9 x .033814023) ounces

>

>

>

> The answer:

>

> 17.042 ounces

>

>

>

> One pound of unrefined shea butter fills the volume

> of 17.042 liquid ounces.

>

>

>

>

> Randy

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

[Guest guest]

My head is spinning.

julie : )

>

> > Okay okay, I've done the math to end the torture.

> > Man, step outside our

> > normal realm of calculations and the insanity never

> > stops. This is exactly

> > the reason why the U.S. needs to switch over to the

> > metric system. It is so

> > much easier!!

> >

> >

> >

> > First off shea butter is a fat. Fats, oils, and

> > butters - whatever

> > substance we use to saponify into soap, or emulsify

> > for lotions etc. - are

> > all fats, lipids, triglycerides. They all consist

> > of a glyceride molecule

> > attached to three molecules of fatty acid. They

> > only differ in the carbon

> > chain length and hydrogen saturation of the fatty

> > acids. Those differences

> > lead to their difference in melting points,

> > densities, boiling points etc.

> > etc. We tend to call them all fats simply because

> > as the temperature

> > approaches zero degrees Kelvin (-273.15 Celsius, or

> > absolute zero), all

> > lipids precipitate into a solid. Well, pretty much

> > everything becomes a

> > solid.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now to answer the original question - there is no

> > magical conversion. The

> > MSDS density for unrefined shea butter is .9 grams

> > per cubic centimeter.

> > Refining shea butter will most likely give it a

> > different density. The

> > level of refinement will most likely affect its

> > final density. So I'm only

> > doing the math on the unrefined butter. So here is

> > the math. It's like

> > stoichiometry in chemistry.

> >

> >

> >

> > The facts:

> >

> > 1 pound shea butter

> >

> > 1 pound = 453.59237 grams.

> >

> > 1 cubic centimeter = 0.033814023 ounces [uS,

> > liquid].

> >

> > Density of unrefined shea butter is .9 grams per

> > cubic centimeter.

> >

> >

> >

> > The explanation: (for those who don't understand

> > stoichiometry)

> >

> > It's kind of like a maze. You want to start at the

> > end and end at the

> > start. We want our final unit of measure to be

> > ounces. So we make sure

> > ounce is the numerator of the last ratio (or

> > fraction) in the calculation.

> > 1 cc = .033814023 ounces can be use as a ratio in an

> > equation two different

> > ways - 1 cc per .033814023 ounces or .033814023

> > ounces per 1 cc. In an

> > equation they would look as such:

> >

> >

> >

> > A) 1 cc / .033814023 ounces OR

> >

> > .033814023 ounces / 1 cc

> >

> >

> >

> > Given that we want ounces in the numerator, we use

> > option B.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now with ounces in the numerator that leaves cc in

> > the denominator. So we

> > need the ratio before it to have the cc in the

> > numerator. Therefore we need

> > to represent the density in away that puts its cc in

> > the numerator. Don't

> > let this confuse you. True, density is defined

> > (typically) as mass per

> > volume. However, this is a ratio that can be

> > manipulated. The density that

> > I'm using is .9 grams per cubic centimeter (.9 g /

> > cc). Meaning that .9

> > grams of shea butter will fill the volume of 1 cubic

> > centimeter - OR - every

> > 1 cubic centimeter of shea butter will weigh .9

> > grams. In an equation, the

> > two would look like one of the following options:

> >

> >

> >

> > A) .9 g / 1 cc OR

> >

> > 1 cc / .9 g

> >

> >

> >

> > Again given that we want our unit of volume in the

> > numerator, we use option

> > B.

> >

> >

> >

> > This brings us to the beginning with 453.59237

> > grams.

> >

> >

> >

> > The equation:

> >

> > 453.59237 grams (1 cc / .9 g) (.033814023 ounces / 1

> > cc)

> >

> > (453.59237 / .9 x .033814023) ounces

> >

> >

> >

> > The answer:

> >

> > 17.042 ounces

> >

> >

> >

> > One pound of unrefined shea butter fills the volume

> > of 17.042 liquid ounces.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Randy

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good day, all.

Thank you for taking the time to respond to this... I asked b/c I read recipes

that called

for X number of ounces of melted shea butter.

I thought that was pretty odd. I then wondered how many liquid ounces would be

in a

pound of shea... How else would I know how much Shea to order? I didn't have

any to

measure.

I didn't know the answer was so complicated.. but thank you for taking the time.

I hope all is well.

K

>

> Hello all.

>

> Does anyone know what a pound of shea butter yields in liquid ounces?

>

> I've been looking for this info on the web and can't find a thing.

>

>

>

> K

>