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I've known morbidly obsese vegans. Think about it -- all they eat is

carbs, carbs and more carbs.

>---------->cheaters! surely. LOL

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A friend of mine told me to do internet dating, so I could meet someone with

like interests. (esp nutritional). Most were very uninterested in nutrition,

so I agree that most men aren't focused on food. But, the ones that did

respond that were " into " health, were also into the mainstream idea of low fat,

etc. It became very frustrating.

To make a long story short, it ended up that after dating for almost a year I

did meet someone who is absolutely wonderful, but is of the low fat genre. Go

figure!!! Well, at least I tried. He keeps telling me that love is more

important than all of the other stuff. Time will tell.

Jafa

Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote:

>>>>You have two things working in your favor: 1. Most men don't give a hoot

about nutrition (politically correct or otherwise) 2. Most men LOVE to eat.

When I say " conversion " I don't mean that we should proselytize---nobody

likes to have dogma shoved down their throat. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but

becoming a better cook can do WONDERS for love. Of course, you need to make

sure he'll do cleaning and laundry...

----------->and some of the cooking! is it really too much to ask for an NT

type of guy who likes to cook???? <answering self - YES. :((((>

OK, I was kind of thinking about your first point...my dad is happy with

*anything* my mom prepares. He's just happy that someone's fixing some food

for him. LOL I guess my problem is that *I* love to have food fixed for

*me*! why do I automatically have to be the cook? Not that I've ever had it

done...99% of the guys I've dated haven't ever cooked for me, but i'm still

holding out hope! I can *appreciate* someone else's cooking with the best of

them :-) I woudn't want to be cooked for all the time, but even a couple of

times a week would be a true gift. if *I'm* doing all the cooking, then they

better shut up anyway and appreciate the fact that someone took the trouble

to nourish them with healthy, yummy food. LOL

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In a message dated 5/14/03 11:10:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Idol@... writes:

> I don't know, personally I prefer to leave the dishwashing to Maytag. ;->

But try cooking with Maytag or enjoying a romantic dinner together ;-)

Chris

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

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I've known morbidly obsese vegans. Think about it -- all they eat is

carbs, carbs and more carbs.

---------->oh...misunderstanding - I was referring to the " funny " part! not

weight. I was a " morbidly depressed " semi-veg before going NT. I think you

need an adequate amounts of amino acids and fatty acids to be chronically

good humored :-)

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>1. Most men don't give a hoot about nutrition (politically correct or

>otherwise) 2. Most men LOVE to eat.

I love that. My SO said something to the same effect: " I don't really care

HOW you make it. I'm just so glad the food is there to eat! " Surprisingly,

when I changed our food choices, no one really commented (granted, no raw

meat ...) except to say they liked my new " gourmet " cooking.

-- Heidi

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Chris-

I don't know, personally I prefer to leave the dishwashing to Maytag. ;->

>isn't cooking with the person you love the

>one thing better than washing the dishes with them?

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>>>>what about cooking *together*? isn't cooking with the person you love

the

one thing better than washing the dishes with them?

----->hey, that sounds like a great idea! although taking turns also has its

appeal :0)

*washing* dishes?? that's what I have *dogs* for. lol

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---I been wondering how the *dogs* would fit into this relationship?

Dennis

In , " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@v...>

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> >>>>what about cooking *together*? isn't cooking with the person

you love

> the

> one thing better than washing the dishes with them?

>

> ----->hey, that sounds like a great idea! although taking turns

also has its

> appeal :0)

> *washing* dishes?? that's what I have *dogs* for. lol

>

> Suze Fisher

> Lapdog Design, Inc.

> Web Design & Development

> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

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In a message dated 5/15/03 12:07:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

dkemnitz2000@... writes:

> I been wondering how the *dogs* would fit into this relationship?

>

Dennis,

They wash the dishes!

More time for cooking, eating, and relaxing...

Chris

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

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No wonder I gravitated towards my current line of work! :-P

-chris

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wrote: I don't know, personally I prefer to leave the dishwashing to

Maytag.  ;->

Suze wrote: *washing* dishes?? that's what I have *dogs* for. lol

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Ah! Thanks :-P

I've known a couple healthy-looking vegans before, but generally they fit

into the anemic-looking category or that fat, spacey-eyed category. You can

spot them at the health food stores ;-)

Chris

In a message dated 5/15/03 10:31:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

toyotaokiec@... writes:

>

> I picked up that term from my farmer husband. The majority of cattle

> breeders seem to tout the ability of their animals to create an

> outcross when bred to other typical animals. Without actually

> looking it up in a dictionary, it seems that they are saying you can

> get an atypical result if you breed their animals to your animals.

>

> On the other hand, there are linebreeders. They use practices that

> seem IMHO to be just short of inbreeding. Their goal is to keep

> getting the same phenotype, generation after generation. They do not

> want surprises, that is, " outcrosses " .

>

> So my use of that term was a weak attempt at dry humor. It seems odd

> to me that vegans could be found in any other phenotype than

> having " a lean and hungry look " , as the Bard would say.

>

> I attended the first meeting of the new Oklahoma chapter of WAPF on

> Tuesday evening. When I entered the Wild Oats store, I looked for

> someone to direct me to the meeting. There was a tall, lanky (lean

> and hungry looking) fellow sweeping up, and I asked him where I might

> find the meeting. He said it was a good question, looked around, and

> asked if the lady at the other end of the store who was addressing a

> small group might be " one of your type " . It seemed like a clear

> display of " us and them " discrimination. LOL!

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

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---I been wondering how the *dogs* would fit into this relationship?

----------->oh, you want to know about the little " fries " donors you

mentioned in an earlier post? (getting " fries " from the vet)

OK, here's a scenario:

my date/boyfriend/SO/friend/other acronym joyfully prepares a glorious NT

meal for us (hey, i can still fantasize, can't I?). maybe i help out. the

dogs beg.

we eat. they beg.

we sit around and chat after eating. they beg.

we start getting up to take our plates into the kitchen. they beg.

we dump all the non-doggy stuff off the plates and make them sit. (well,

only 1 sits...the other madly spins in circles to the right. and *only* to

the right. she's an R-turning dog, like lactic acid ;-)

then, the plates go on the floor and the little beggars do their Maytag

imitation.

so that's how they would fit into *that* aspect of the relationship.

hmmmm....maybe I better add " dog-tolerant " right up there next to " sense of

humor " to my preferred criteria! lol

Suze Fisher (scratching my head, wondering how my love life evolved into a

thread...can we talk about someone else's now? lol)

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> In a message dated 5/14/2003 2:32:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

toyotaokiec@y... writes:

>

> > Hmmmmm...must be an outcross.

>

> My apologies for my ignorance... what's an " outcross " ? :-P

>

> Most of the fat people I know are vegans. Some of them no doubt

lack sufficient calories, and that whole anemic look seems to be

stylish among them, but loading up on rice and beans and bread with

no fat to speak of can put the pounds on pretty quick!

>

> Oh well, I agree anyway... let's all draw the line at vegans ;-)

>

> Chris

I picked up that term from my farmer husband. The majority of cattle

breeders seem to tout the ability of their animals to create an

outcross when bred to other typical animals. Without actually

looking it up in a dictionary, it seems that they are saying you can

get an atypical result if you breed their animals to your animals.

On the other hand, there are linebreeders. They use practices that

seem IMHO to be just short of inbreeding. Their goal is to keep

getting the same phenotype, generation after generation. They do not

want surprises, that is, " outcrosses " .

So my use of that term was a weak attempt at dry humor. It seems odd

to me that vegans could be found in any other phenotype than

having " a lean and hungry look " , as the Bard would say.

I attended the first meeting of the new Oklahoma chapter of WAPF on

Tuesday evening. When I entered the Wild Oats store, I looked for

someone to direct me to the meeting. There was a tall, lanky (lean

and hungry looking) fellow sweeping up, and I asked him where I might

find the meeting. He said it was a good question, looked around, and

asked if the lady at the other end of the store who was addressing a

small group might be " one of your type " . It seemed like a clear

display of " us and them " discrimination. LOL!

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