Re: NT Dating was: connections

[Guest guest]

Suze--

As a chapter head and conduit of WAPF-minded folks, I'm sure you'll get an

email someday from the perfect, intelligent, funny, loving, sexy,

animal-fat-loving fellow cholesterol junky looking for raw milk or something.

:-)

Chris

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In a message dated 5/9/03 7:30:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

clearvu@... writes:

> Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!

> There maybe 1 left in the country and Im looking too!!!

> Tim

location, location, location... looks like that's the problem ;-)

chris

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!

There maybe 1 left in the country and Im looking too!!!

Tim

Clearview Acres

ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote:

> Suze--

>

> As a chapter head and conduit of WAPF-minded folks, I'm sure you'll

> get an

> email someday from the perfect, intelligent, funny, loving, sexy,

> animal-fat-loving fellow cholesterol junky looking for raw milk or

> something.

> :-)

>

> Chris

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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She's very bright, but intelligence isn't always the deciding factor. My

grandfather was a brilliant scientist, but on diet and nutrition he was

about as wrong-headed as they get. He bought the simplistic notion that

eating fat makes you fat, so he ate all kinds of grains, fruit juice,

natural sweeteners, soy, you name it -- and died of cancer.

I think it has more to do with personality types. In my girlfriend's case,

authority and credentials are paramount, so despite the fact that I

probably know a lot more about nutrition than 95% of the doctors out there,

my opinion is worthless -- my schooling was in electrical engineering and

filmmaking. And partly because Uffe Ravnskov included some unfortunate

personal experimentation in his book, his book is worthless. But mostly,

she's completely unwilling to believe that the AMA and the AHA and other

such organizations, not to mention the vast majority of doctors could

possibly be (a) uneducated on the subject and/or ( willing to do anything

to jeapordize people's health, no matter what the reason. And I seem to

have inadvertently turned it into a matter of personal pride for her, so I

don't think I'll ever be able to make any headway on the subject, or if not

never, certainly not until she's feeling a lot more pain than she is now,

and even though I suppose I probably shouldn't, I feel pretty guilty about it.

>your girlfiend doesn't respond to Price's research? Knowing you (at least

>online) I would assume that she's a pretty bight lady. How can she ignore

>the research????? Also, as your health improves, she may come around--you

>fell in love despite your differences, right??

If my health makes some major further gains, maybe, but I'm still in pretty

bad shape compared to most people.

-

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/03 9:16:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

s.fisher22@... writes:

> ------------->LOL! yeh....maybe by the time i'm 80! i'd be more optimistic

> at your age, but at mine everyone's either married/hitched or are avowed

> cholesterol-haters. i'm willing to go the 'conversion' route, as jessica

> mentioned, but helping someone to dismantle the deeply ingrained notion

> that

> cholesterol is public enemy #1 seems like such a daunting task!

Hey, when you're 80 and I'm 60...

lol

Well I did happen to meet a girl my age at the conference and exchange

numbers and whatnot, but she's taken... and she lives far away :-P

Chris

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/03 6:31:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

ChrisMasterjohn@... writes:

> Hey, when you're 80 and I'm 60...

>

> lol

>

> Well I did happen to meet a girl my age at the conference and exchange

> numbers and whatnot, but she's taken... and she lives far away :-P

>

> Chris

>

>

Maybe you need to start a paleo/low carb singles list.

I think it would be easier to convert a low carber, or at least live in

peace!I am also single, and have some other issues too that narrows the

dating pool, but why not? You make meet the cave woman of you dreams!

really, why don't you start a singles list?

Couldn't hurt.!

Zahra

" If Hussain fought to quench his worldly desires,

then I do not understand why his sisters, wives and children accompanied him.

It stands to reason

therefore that he sacrificed purely for Islam. "

- Dickens

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/03 9:32:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

ChrisMasterjohn@... writes:

> Well I did happen to meet a girl my age at the conference and exchange

> numbers and whatnot, but she's taken... and she lives far away :-P

>

btw did they all show up on sunday or something? i didn't see anyone around

my age in 12 hours on saturday, and i saw four or five on sunday & monday.

totally off the subject, but funny and not worth starting a new thread

about... on saturday night i was at a table with the Australian chapter head,

and she said at some event once someone asked what her passion was and Sally

answered " Animal fats. " Lol... I don't know if this is as funny over email

as when she told the story, but it was funny at the time. And there are so

many things you can do with animal fats... talk about them, analyze them,

promote them, render them, EAT THEM!!! :-D

Chris

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/10/03 9:38:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lavenderandsagez@... writes:

> Maybe you need to start a paleo/low carb singles list.

> I think it would be easier to convert a low carber, or at least live in

> peace!I am also single, and have some other issues too that narrows the

> dating pool, but why not? You make meet the cave woman of you dreams!

> really, why don't you start a singles list?

Well, I'm not really looking right now. I will await the cave woman...

lol

chris

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

>>>>Don't despair, Suze!

------->LOL

There's always CONVERSION. Heck, people do it for religion all the time. I

guess I'm lucky in that my partner goes along with my notions about

nutrition. Actually, NT tastes much better than other food anyway (although

I wouldn't try to serve him liver, raw or otherwise). He doesn't like

butter or cheese, but now will eat whole yogurt and any meat I put down in

front of him. Have hope and offer to do all/most of the cooking.

does the shopping, laundry, and lots of cleaning so that I have more time

for food prep. Pretty good deal, in my mind. Yes, I'm a lucky lady and

getting married to boot!

----------->Thanks . I guess I haven't even really been thinking

about this much since maybe last summer. But it's creeping back into my

consciousness...especially since i just turned 40, and Maine has a small

enough pool of eligible bachelors over 30 anyways, much less any that might

be into NT/WAP! Although, i do consider boston " within range " so that's a

considerably larger pool. But, i think you are right....*conversion* is

probably what it's going to come down to :-) Glad that's worked out for you.

hey, congratulations on your engagement! :-)

there's only one thing i don't understand.....who doesn't like

*butter*??????????

LOL

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

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[Guest guest]

Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!!

There maybe 1 left in the country and Im looking too!!!

Tim

Clearview Acres

---------->er....i thought you were already half of a dynamic duo???

btw, how big is your chapter? just curious....we're still relatively small,

but growing. i have this image that WI is full of similarly-minded folk

looking for real old-fashioned farm-grown food...

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

>>>>As a chapter head and conduit of WAPF-minded folks, I'm sure you'll get

an

email someday from the perfect, intelligent, funny, loving, sexy,

animal-fat-loving fellow cholesterol junky looking for raw milk or

something.

:-)

------------->LOL! yeh....maybe by the time i'm 80! i'd be more optimistic

at your age, but at mine everyone's either married/hitched or are avowed

cholesterol-haters. i'm willing to go the 'conversion' route, as jessica

mentioned, but helping someone to dismantle the deeply ingrained notion that

cholesterol is public enemy #1 seems like such a daunting task!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

>------------->LOL! yeh....maybe by the time i'm 80! i'd be more optimistic

>at your age, but at mine everyone's either married/hitched or are avowed

>cholesterol-haters. i'm willing to go the 'conversion' route, as jessica

>mentioned, but helping someone to dismantle the deeply ingrained notion that

>cholesterol is public enemy #1 seems like such a daunting task!

There is a very small pool of bachelors at any given time. So you are

REALLY unlikely to bump into one randomly. So far the successful

matches I've seen were from 1. Dating clubs, 2. Internet dating, or 3.

Radio shows (surprisingly!). If you are presented with a huge list

of bachelors, it is a lot easier to find one with a similar mindset!

The idea is to select the guy with the traits you want, THEN date him.

I won't go into details publicly, but it worked for me! My hubby

thinks a lot like I do, so when we changed diets, he was pretty

much on board.

Heidi

[Guest guest]

LOL with empathy....there is hope!!! I got married for the first time

at age 47 to a low fat " expert " . He would try to sneak his salad

dressings on my salad ....like I wouldn't notice!

We've been married two years now and he's eating my raw butter and

cream with the best of them! I did it very slowly and allowed him to

keep his Better than Butter and nasty thick low fat dressings in the

fridge. Of course when we ate mine was way better tasting and his

taste buds slowly took over his brain and now ..whaala...he almost

all NT. He still trims off the fat from meat but then I get it.

BTW... I wasn't dating at all at 46 and finally put up an ad on some

dating sites and met my sweet husband. Plus at the time I was

vegetarian and that was my big dating how-to-get along. Boy did I do

a turn around in 3 years.

As a side ..... I posted a question about teeth and am real curious

what all of you have been eperiencing in that area. My bad teeth is

what got me investigation NT about 1 1/2 years ago.

Take care,

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Exactly Heidi...that's what I did. I used the rather large pool of

easy to find men on the internet and then wrote an ad for the

qualities I wanted. I went out with LOTS of fellows for about 8

months. When I met Curt I knew his mindset was similar and he was

kind...it's worked out wonderfully. Well...LOL.. I do have to say

married for the first time at 47 I've had some intense life lessons

in flexibility!

Lynn

>

> >------------->LOL! yeh....maybe by the time i'm 80! i'd be more

optimistic

> >at your age, but at mine everyone's either married/hitched or are

avowed

> >cholesterol-haters. i'm willing to go the 'conversion' route, as

jessica

> >mentioned, but helping someone to dismantle the deeply ingrained

notion that

> >cholesterol is public enemy #1 seems like such a daunting task!

>

> There is a very small pool of bachelors at any given time. So you

are

> REALLY unlikely to bump into one randomly. So far the successful

> matches I've seen were from 1. Dating clubs, 2. Internet dating, or

3.

> Radio shows (surprisingly!). If you are presented with a huge list

> of bachelors, it is a lot easier to find one with a similar mindset!

>

> The idea is to select the guy with the traits you want, THEN date

him.

>

> I won't go into details publicly, but it worked for me! My hubby

> thinks a lot like I do, so when we changed diets, he was pretty

> much on board.

>

>

> Heidi

[Guest guest]

> ------------->LOL! yeh....maybe by the time i'm 80! i'd be more optimistic

> at your age, but at mine everyone's either married/hitched or are avowed

> cholesterol-haters. i'm willing to go the 'conversion' route, as jessica

> mentioned, but helping someone to dismantle the deeply ingrained notion

> that

> cholesterol is public enemy #1 seems like such a daunting task!

Hey, when you're 80 and I'm 60...

lol

-------->bet! ;-)

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

>Exactly Heidi...that's what I did. I used the rather large pool of

>easy to find men on the internet and then wrote an ad for the

>qualities I wanted. I went out with LOTS of fellows for about 8

>months. When I met Curt I knew his mindset was similar and he was

>kind...it's worked out wonderfully. Well...LOL.. I do have to say

>married for the first time at 47 I've had some intense life lessons

>in flexibility!

>

>Lynn

Sounds like a fun 8 months too! I settled down pretty late too ... it's a

challenge!

>

>

Heidi

[Guest guest]

>>>BTW... I wasn't dating at all at 46 and finally put up an ad on some

dating sites and met my sweet husband. Plus at the time I was

vegetarian and that was my big dating how-to-get along. Boy did I do

a turn around in 3 years.

------------->Lynn, thanks for the great story :-) empathy, huh? i'm

thinking *patience*... as you must have had to look at a tub of margerine or

lowfat salad dressing in your fridge every day. LOL Yes, i've done the

dating sites a few times...in fact i met 2 out of the last 3 guys I dated

that way...but i didn't continue with the sites - i think i just ran out of

patience or time. but there just seems to be no other way to meet new people

as I live in a relatively small town and my office is my living room! so i

guess i will give it a go again...but i draw the line at vegans...i don't

have to empathize *that* much do I? LOL

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

Yup. You got it. I'm marrying the only human on this earth that doesn't like

the taste of butter. He ESPECIALLY detests raw butter. I do sneak it into

stuff (hee hee) when I can!

hey, congratulations on your engagement! :-)

there's only one thing i don't understand.....who doesn't like

*butter*??????????

LOL

[Guest guest]

Suze,

You have two things working in your favor: 1. Most men don't give a hoot about

nutrition (politically correct or otherwise) 2. Most men LOVE to eat. When I

say " conversion " I don't mean that we should proselytize---nobody likes to have

dogma shoved down their throat. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but becoming a better

cook can do WONDERS for love. Of course, you need to make sure he'll do

cleaning and laundry...

i'm willing to go the 'conversion' route, as jessica

mentioned, but helping someone to dismantle the deeply ingrained notion that

cholesterol is public enemy #1 seems like such a daunting task!

[Guest guest]

Oh, definitely draw the line right there Suze!!! Besides, all the vegans I know

are WAAAAYYYY too skinny, and most of them lack a sense of humor (your one

requirement, right???)

LOL,

but i draw the line at vegans...i don't

have to empathize *that* much do I? LOL

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/14/2003 11:19:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, jc137@...

writes:

> Oh, definitely draw the line right there Suze!!! Besides, >all the vegans I

know are WAAAAYYYY too skinny, and most of

> them lack a sense of humor (your one requirement, right???)

Hey, I know some funny, and, believe it or not, FAT vegans!

Chris

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 5/14/2003 11:19:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jc137@n... writes:

>

> > Oh, definitely draw the line right there Suze!!! Besides, >all

the vegans I know are WAAAAYYYY too skinny, and most of

> > them lack a sense of humor (your one requirement, right???)

>

> Hey, I know some funny, and, believe it or not, FAT vegans!

>

> Chris

Hmmmmm...must be an outcross.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/14/2003 2:32:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

toyotaokiec@... writes:

> Hmmmmm...must be an outcross.

My apologies for my ignorance... what's an " outcross " ? :-P

Most of the fat people I know are vegans. Some of them no doubt lack sufficient

calories, and that whole anemic look seems to be stylish among them, but loading

up on rice and beans and bread with no fat to speak of can put the pounds on

pretty quick!

Oh well, I agree anyway... let's all draw the line at vegans ;-)

Chris

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/14/03 6:28:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

s.fisher22@... writes:

> OK, I was kind of thinking about your first point...my dad is happy with

> *anything* my mom prepares. He's just happy that someone's fixing some food

> for him. LOL I guess my problem is that *I* love to have food fixed for

> *me*! why do I automatically have to be the cook? Not that I've ever had it

> done...99% of the guys I've dated haven't ever cooked for me, but i'm still

> holding out hope! I can *appreciate* someone else's cooking with the best

> of

> them :-) I woudn't want to be cooked for all the time, but even a couple of

> times a week would be a true gift. if *I'm* doing all the cooking, then

> they

> better shut up anyway and appreciate the fact that someone took the trouble

> to nourish them with healthy, yummy food. LOL

what about cooking *together*? isn't cooking with the person you love the

one thing better than washing the dishes with them?

chris

" To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are

to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and

servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore

Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

>>>>You have two things working in your favor: 1. Most men don't give a hoot

about nutrition (politically correct or otherwise) 2. Most men LOVE to eat.

When I say " conversion " I don't mean that we should proselytize---nobody

likes to have dogma shoved down their throat. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but

becoming a better cook can do WONDERS for love. Of course, you need to make

sure he'll do cleaning and laundry...

----------->and some of the cooking! is it really too much to ask for an NT

type of guy who likes to cook???? <answering self - YES. (((>

OK, I was kind of thinking about your first point...my dad is happy with

*anything* my mom prepares. He's just happy that someone's fixing some food

for him. LOL I guess my problem is that *I* love to have food fixed for

*me*! why do I automatically have to be the cook? Not that I've ever had it

done...99% of the guys I've dated haven't ever cooked for me, but i'm still

holding out hope! I can *appreciate* someone else's cooking with the best of

them :-) I woudn't want to be cooked for all the time, but even a couple of

times a week would be a true gift. if *I'm* doing all the cooking, then they

better shut up anyway and appreciate the fact that someone took the trouble

to nourish them with healthy, yummy food. LOL

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

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