Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Me, too. I (stupidly) used my name in my email address, just like the account on GMail that I use for finances and work related messages. Hope I can change and still be here. In the meantime, I don't know of anyone who either believes in this or even looks at it. Most are driven career people, who don't have time for it. Most of my extended family are not into computers or the web. So for now I'm not going to worry. The only person I shared this site's URL with was my best exterminator, of the 3 or 4 I either hired or spoke to. He gets it. > > > This is c > Have changed my email as felt vulnerable my name on it,anyone who knew me able to read what im saying > Prefer confidentiality > Please call me c, > Struggling hugely at loss of my beloved cat > And home > N 95 percent of belongings > But in utter despair as even tho trashed all clothes shoes furnuture etc > Im getting bitten still > Under toenails handnails feet privates worst for bites > Crawling thighs and sometimes head n sometimes nose ears > Yep the evil shits on me > Kept phone it infested so clean disinfectant > Wash machine no even work in new flat > Left brand new,washing machine n hoover > I despair > Lost home belongings dearest friend in whole world > N still bitten > Scrubbin bakin soda in shower > Put in new boots > Had second lot permethrin cream > Didnt help > But made me ill > Wud u be able to send me arm n hammer bill > Id really be very grateful! > In 7 months everything destroyed > Feel ill mentaly physicaly > V alone n pretending to most people that no mites now > Becoz they gossip > Worn out > Miss my cudly loving cat > N have no life at moment:-( > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hi everyone Im 42 today Should be feeling happy,having fun But feel miserable that this is still going on Not got cat cuddles Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel Sweating then shivering Shaky Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body Upset stil got some bites Though they are more subtle since doxy But u know what its like U get weary drained v depressed Just NEED them to be gone U know!! Usualy enjoy birhdays Big kid that I am! But shatered in a lot of ways Feel rotten u know? Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday Then back ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thank you gaurav2gupta! > > Re: looking for advice > > > > > >Hi Gator/All, > >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). > >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. > >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. > >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. > >Hope this helps. > >Thanks >Gaurav > > >> > > > > > ></blockquote> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hi everyone Im 42 today Should be feeling happy,having fun But feel miserable that this is still going on Not got cat cuddles Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel Sweating then shivering Shaky Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body Upset stil got some bites Though they are more subtle since doxy But u know what its like U get weary drained v depressed Just NEED them to be gone U know!! Usualy enjoy birhdays Big kid that I am! But shatered in a lot of ways Feel rotten u know? Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday Then back on them for three weeks Cant keep feeling so awful But scared it get worse again Glad can talk to you all Thanks:-)x ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thank you gaurav2gupta! > > Re: looking for advice > > > > > >Hi Gator/All, > >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). > >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. > >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. > >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. > >Hope this helps. > >Thanks >Gaurav > > >> > > > > > ></blockquote> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Then back on them again for anither three weeks. Though worried it will get worse when come off them Cudnt bear it realy But tum need break Going to take neem tincture,turmeric,garlic,internaly Maybe banderol if can afford Still put coconut oil clove on skin Sulphur wash So very tired u know Like stuffing being knocked out Really down!:-( Just not myself! We all lose ourselves in this dont we? Feel like a shell of our former selves Well im glad u are such a lovely group And that I can share how sad I am. And be accepted n understood with sensitivity I value that!:-) Thanks x ------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 01:01 PDT ILIKE TREES wrote: > >Hi everyone >Im 42 today >Should be feeling happy,having fun >But feel miserable that this is still going on >Not got cat cuddles >Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx >And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel >Sweating then shivering >Shaky >Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body >Upset stil got some bites >Though they are more subtle since doxy >But u know what its like >U get weary drained v depressed >Just NEED them to be gone >U know!! >Usualy enjoy birhdays >Big kid that I am! >But shatered in a lot of ways >Feel rotten u know? >Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday >Then back > > > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: > >>Thank you gaurav2gupta! >> >> Re: looking for advice >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi Gator/All, >> >>I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> >>I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> >>However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> >>I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >>Thanks >>Gaurav >> >> >> > > > >> >> >></blockquote> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Happy 42nd Birthday C--it is nearly evening there now and morning here for me. I know how hard things have been for you, losing your wonderful kitty, losing your home and all of your belongings... I am so glad you came to this group and I pray for you too, that you will be free again. Just hang onto those memories of times when you were free. We love you! The discouragement and depression in this are so difficult. One thing that has helped me is to remember how far I've come; things for me have improved immensely from the beginning of this terrifying experience almost 4 years ago... and that gives hope that one day all will be well again, and you and all of us will be able to live a normal life (Aggi and many others are already there). You are exactly my son's age, 42 and he will be 42 this year in August. Hopefully you got out a bit today to soak in the mother earth and her healing qualities... she is our mother you know. Helps so much to get outside of our experience of this. I think about you so often!From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:13:26 AMSubject: Re: Re:hiThen back on them again for anither three weeks.Though worried it will get worse when come off themCudnt bear it realyBut tum need breakGoing to take neem tincture,turmeric,garlic,internalyMaybe banderol if can affordStill put coconut oil clove on skinSulphur washSo very tired u knowLike stuffing being knocked outReally down!:-(Just not myself!We all lose ourselves in this dont we?Feel like a shell of our former selvesWell im glad u are such a lovely groupAnd that I can share how sad I am. And be accepted n understood with sensitivityI value that!:-)Thanks x------------------------------On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 01:01 PDT ILIKE TREES wrote:>>Hi everyone>Im 42 today>Should be feeling happy,having fun>But feel miserable that this is still going on>Not got cat cuddles>Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx>And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel>Sweating then shivering>Shaky>Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body>Upset stil got some bites>Though they are more subtle since doxy>But u know what its like>U get weary drained v depressed>Just NEED them to be gone>U know!!>Usualy enjoy birhdays>Big kid that I am!>But shatered in a lot of ways>Feel rotten u know?>Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday>Then back >>>>------------------------------>On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>>>Thank you gaurav2gupta! >>>> Re: looking for advice >>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Gator/All, >>>>I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >>>>I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >>>>However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >>>>I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >>>>Hope this helps. >>>>Thanks >>Gaurav >>>> >> > > > >>>>>></blockquote>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Happy birthday CHugs Cecilia From: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Re:hi Hi everyone Im 42 today Should be feeling happy,having fun But feel miserable that this is still going on Not got cat cuddles Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel Sweating then shivering Shaky Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body Upset stil got some bites Though they are more subtle since doxy But u know what its like U get weary drained v depressed Just NEED them to be gone U know!! Usualy enjoy birhdays Big kid that I am! But shatered in a lot of ways Feel rotten u know? Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday Then back on them for three weeks Cant keep feeling so awful But scared it get worse again Glad can talk to you all Thanks:-)x ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thank you gaurav2gupta! > > Re: looking for advice > > > > > >Hi Gator/All, > >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). > >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. > >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. > >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. > >Hope this helps. > >Thanks >Gaurav > > >> > > > > > ></blockquote> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Happy Birthday C! Count this as the last birthday were you will suffer the insults of this illness. You will progress over time!Love and light,s From: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> To: bird mites Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:01 AM Subject: Re: Re:hi Hi everyone Im 42 today Should be feeling happy,having fun But feel miserable that this is still going on Not got cat cuddles Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel Sweating then shivering Shaky Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body Upset stil got some bites Though they are more subtle since doxy But u know what its like U get weary drained v depressed Just NEED them to be gone U know!! Usualy enjoy birhdays Big kid that I am! But shatered in a lot of ways Feel rotten u know? Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday Then back ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thank you gaurav2gupta! > > Re: looking for advice > > > > > >Hi Gator/All, > >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). > >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. > >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. > >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. > >Hope this helps. > >Thanks >Gaurav > > >> > > > > > ></blockquote> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Aw thank u linda !xx I think of u as well!:-) ------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 09:14 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Happy 42nd Birthday C--it is nearly evening there now and morning here for me. I know how hard things have been for you, losing your wonderful kitty, losing your home and all of your belongings... I am so glad you came to this group and I pray for you too, that you will be free again. Just hang onto those memories of times when you were free. We love you! The discouragement and depression in this are so difficult. One thing that has helped me is to remember how far I've come; things for me have improved immensely from the beginning of this terrifying experience almost 4 years ago... and that gives hope that one day all will be well again, and you and all of us will be able to live a normal life (Aggi and many others are already there). > > >You are exactly my son's age, 42 and he will be 42 this year in August. Hopefully you got out a bit today to soak in the mother earth and her healing qualities... she is our mother you know. Helps so much to get outside of our experience of this. I think about you so often! > > > > > > > > Re: looking for advice >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi Gator/All, >> >>I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> >>I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> >>However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> >>I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >>Thanks >>Gaurav >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Aw thank u cecilia xx ------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 10:54 PDT Cecilia Borg wrote: >Happy birthday C >Hugs Cecilia > > >________________________________ > From: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> >bird mites >Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:03 AM >Subject: Re: Re:hi > > >Â > >Hi everyone >Im 42 today >Should be feeling happy,having fun >But feel miserable that this is still going on >Not got cat cuddles >Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx >And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel >Sweating then shivering >Shaky >Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body >Upset stil got some bites >Though they are more subtle since doxy >But u know what its like >U get weary drained v depressed >Just NEED them to be gone >U know!! >Usualy enjoy birhdays >Big kid that I am! >But shatered in a lot of ways >Feel rotten u know? >Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday >Then back on them for three weeks >Cant keep feeling so awful >But scared it get worse again >Glad can talk to you all >Thanks:-)x > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: > >>Thank you gaurav2gupta! >> >> Re: looking for advice >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi Gator/All, >> >>I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> >>I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> >>However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> >>I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >>Thanks >>Gaurav >> >> >> > > > >> >> >></blockquote> >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Aw thanks sarahs xx ------------------------------ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 14:06 PDT Benton wrote: >Happy Birthday C! Count this as the last birthday were you will suffer the insults of this illness.  You will progress over time! >Love and light, >s > > >________________________________ > From: ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> >bird mites >Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:01 AM >Subject: Re: Re:hi > > > > > > >Hi everyone >Im 42 today >Should be feeling happy,having fun >But feel miserable that this is still going on >Not got cat cuddles >Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx >And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel >Sweating then shivering >Shaky >Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body >Upset stil got some bites >Though they are more subtle since doxy >But u know what its like >U get weary drained v depressed >Just NEED them to be gone >U know!! >Usualy enjoy birhdays >Big kid that I am! >But shatered in a lot of ways >Feel rotten u know? >Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday >Then back > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: > >>Thank you gaurav2gupta! >> >> Re: looking for advice >> >> >> >> >> >>Hi Gator/All, >> >>I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> >>I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> >>However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> >>I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >>Thanks >>Gaurav >> >> >> > > > >> >> >></blockquote> >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 C- the sweating then shivering makes me think babesia. The Doxy will barely touch it. You can self diagnose by trying a week of artemisinin- Allergy Research or Biopure in Europe. AandrayaOn Mar 15, 2012, at 3:01 AM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: Hi everyone Im 42 today Should be feeling happy,having fun But feel miserable that this is still going on Not got cat cuddles Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel Sweating then shivering Shaky Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body Upset stil got some bites Though they are more subtle since doxy But u know what its like U get weary drained v depressed Just NEED them to be gone U know!! Usualy enjoy birhdays Big kid that I am! But shatered in a lot of ways Feel rotten u know? Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday Then back ------------------------------ On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thank you gaurav2gupta! > > Re: looking for advice > > > > > >Hi Gator/All, > >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). > >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. > >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. > >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. > >Hope this helps. > >Thanks >Gaurav > > >> > > > > > ></blockquote> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Thanks Aa Im actualy feeling better today as I didnt take any meds at all. No sweating n shiveryness today. I needed a break,think body was reacting hugely to doxy. Though I will have to go back on it. Bit wary of artemisin as is that not quite hard on liver? Is there another more gentle? Cant get rid of sensations on feet,tickle itch Pinprick n hands Tho less severe But I was in a warm room yestrday n the symptoms became a lot worse Is that normal? Hope u are well Aa ------------------------------ On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 2:25 PM PDT Aandraya wrote: >C- the sweating then shivering makes me think babesia. The Doxy will barely touch it. You can self diagnose by trying a week of artemisinin- Allergy Research or Biopure in Europe. >Aandraya > > > >On Mar 15, 2012, at 3:01 AM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote: > >> >> Hi everyone >> Im 42 today >> Should be feeling happy,having fun >> But feel miserable that this is still going on >> Not got cat cuddles >> Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx >> And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel >> Sweating then shivering >> Shaky >> Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body >> Upset stil got some bites >> Though they are more subtle since doxy >> But u know what its like >> U get weary drained v depressed >> Just NEED them to be gone >> U know!! >> Usualy enjoy birhdays >> Big kid that I am! >> But shatered in a lot of ways >> Feel rotten u know? >> Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday >> Then back >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >> >> >Thank you gaurav2gupta! >> > >> > Re: looking for advice >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi Gator/All, >> > >> >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> > >> >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> > >> >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> > >> >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> > >> >Hope this helps. >> > >> >Thanks >> >Gaurav >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> ></blockquote> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 C, I've had the pin prick in hands, sensations on feet, tickle, itch, pin prick on feet too. Also common for me are sensations of shivers up one leg or thigh, that comes and goes. I associate that with Lyme. I went off the Rifampin for a little over a week and my eye symptoms started to come back... From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 2:53:57 PMSubject: Re: Re:hiThanks AaIm actualy feeling better today as I didnt take any meds at all.No sweating n shiveryness today.I needed a break,think body was reacting hugely to doxy.Though I will have to go back on it.Bit wary of artemisin as is that not quite hard on liver?Is there another more gentle?Cant get rid of sensations on feet,tickle itch Pinprick n handsTho less severeBut I was in a warm room yestrday n the symptoms became a lot worseIs that normal?Hope u are well Aa------------------------------On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 2:25 PM PDT Aandraya wrote:>C- the sweating then shivering makes me think babesia. The Doxy will barely touch it. You can self diagnose by trying a week of artemisinin- Allergy Research or Biopure in Europe.>Aandraya>>>>On Mar 15, 2012, at 3:01 AM, ILIKE TREES <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:>>> >> Hi everyone>> Im 42 today>> Should be feeling happy,having fun>> But feel miserable that this is still going on>> Not got cat cuddles>> Feel very lonely n tum sore with abx>> And last few days just feel realy physicaly unwel>> Sweating then shivering>> Shaky>> Know it the abx n whatever going on in my body>> Upset stil got some bites>> Though they are more subtle since doxy>> But u know what its like>> U get weary drained v depressed>> Just NEED them to be gone>> U know!!>> Usualy enjoy birhdays>> Big kid that I am!>> But shatered in a lot of ways>> Feel rotten u know?>> Think will have to come off abx for three weeks on friday>> Then back>> >> ------------------------------>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 22:33 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>> >> >Thank you gaurav2gupta! >> >>> > Re: looking for advice>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >Hi Gator/All,>> >>> >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section).>> >>> >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously.>> >>> >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual.>> >>> >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it.>> >>> >Hope this helps.>> >>> >Thanks>> >Gaurav>> >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> >>> ></blockquote>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hi linda How are ur daughter n grandaughter today? Dearly hope gettin better! How are u doing with all the meds? Any easier? Less symptoms,i hope! Tc ------------------------------ On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 15:34 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >C, I've had the pin prick in hands, sensations on feet, tickle, itch, pin prick on feet too. Also common for me are sensations of shivers up one leg or thigh, that comes and goes. I associate that with Lyme. I went off the Rifampin for a little over a week and my eye symptoms started to come back... > > > > > > Re: looking for advice >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi Gator/All, >> > >> >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> > >> >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> > >> >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> > >> >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> > >> >Hope this helps. >> > >> >Thanks >> >Gaurav >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Thanks C. I'm not sure, but I think a little better. She still is not out of the woods. Thanks for thinking of them. Times like this make it tough to have them so far away.From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:49:45 PMSubject: Re: Re:hiHi lindaHow are ur daughter n grandaughter today?Dearly hope gettin better!How are u doing with all the meds?Any easier?Less symptoms,i hope!Tc ------------------------------On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 15:34 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>C, I've had the pin prick in hands, sensations on feet, tickle, itch, pin prick on feet too. Also common for me are sensations of shivers up one leg or thigh, that comes and goes. I associate that with Lyme. I went off the Rifampin for a little over a week and my eye symptoms started to come back... >>> >>> Re: looking for advice >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi Gator/All, >> > >> >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> > >> >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> > >> >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> > >> >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> > >> >Hope this helps. >> > >> >Thanks >> >Gaurav >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Hi linda Im glad they are a little better! Though still very upsetting for you and espec because they so faraway!:-( Hope ur managing to sleep with all the worry Take care x ------------------------------ On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 21:43 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thanks C. I'm not sure, but I think a little better. She still is not out of the woods. Thanks for thinking of them. Times like this make it tough to have them so far away. > > > > > Re: looking for advice >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi Gator/All, >> > >> >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> > >> >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> > >> >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> > >> >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> > >> >Hope this helps. >> > >> >Thanks >> >Gaurav >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Thanks C.From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:34:30 AMSubject: Re: Re:hiHi lindaIm glad they are a little better!Though still very upsetting for you and espec because they so faraway!:-(Hope ur managing to sleep with all the worryTake care x------------------------------On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 21:43 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>Thanks C. I'm not sure, but I think a little better. She still is not out of the woods. Thanks for thinking of them. Times like this make it tough to have them so far away. >>> >> Re: looking for advice >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi Gator/All, >> > >> >I had sent a mail to the group in August of last year detailing a protocol for an ayurvedic oil as a remedy (search for 'ayurvedic' in the group's messages section). >> > >> >I was skeptical that people would take it seriously. >> > >> >However I just wanted to tell the group that after using it for 6 months I am 90% better and am leading a normal life. I had seen significant improvement on day 1 itself and was about 50% better in a month. Subsequent improvement had been more gradual. >> > >> >I have a lot of tips (that I found out by trial and error over six months) to make the oil as effective as possible (like don't apply on scalp and then on face as mites get transferred. Use disposable vinyl gloves while applying and discard them, put disposable plastic sheet on your pillow while sleeping etc). I would try and put out a comprehensive list sometime if anyone decides to try it. >> > >> >Hope this helps. >> > >> >Thanks >> >Gaurav >> > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Hi Iliketrees I searched abx to see what it was . The search found this : '.' Candida abx, 90 Vcaps, Apex Energetics | Free Shipping U.S. Candida abX from Apex Energetics is an herbal and enzyme dietary supplement for '' at this link : http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/candida-abx-90-p-digestive-system.html Is this the type of ABX you are taking ? It contains grapefruit seed extract . Did you ever read this Study on grapefruit seed extract ? if it is true then I bet it would cause a stomach ache , http://www.terressentials.com/truthaboutgse.html excerpt : Grapefruit seed extract. Sounds so friendly, doesnt it? Youve heard it touted as a natural preservative, and the health food store sells it in a capsule as an antifungal supplement. If everybody says that its natural they must be correct, right? Wrong. Grapefruit seed extract is not grapefruit juice. It is also not grapefruit essential oil and it is most certainly not an herbal tincture. Chemical manufacturers take the leftover grapefruit pulp, a waste by-product from grapefruit juice production, and in an intensive, multi-step industrial chemical process, change the natural phenolic compounds into synthetic quaternary ammonium compounds. Typically, in chemical synthesis of this type, chemical reagents and catalysts are used under extreme high heat and pressure or vacuum. Synthetic ammonium chloride is one of the chemical catalysts used in this process. ....... Additionally, three extracts contained the preserving substances triclosan and methyl paraben. In only one of the grapefruit seed extracts tested no preservative agent was found. However, with this extract as well as with several self-made extracts from seed and juiceless pulp of grapefruits (Citrus paradisi), no antimicrobial activity could be detected. Thus, it is concluded that the potent as well as nearly universal antimicrobial activity being attributed to grapefruit seed extract is merely due to the synthetic preservative agents contained within. Natural products with antimicrobial activity do not appear to be present. Further, the USDA did a grapefruit seed extract study (full text here (pdf)) and declared, Confirming an earlier study by researchers in Germany we found that some commercial grapefruit seed extracts contain benzethonium chloride, a synthetic antimicrobial agent commonly used in cosmetics and only approved for topical use, at relatively high levels of 8%. The Swiss Toxicological Information Center of Basel, Switzerland, reports that Grapefruit seed extracts containing benzethonium chloride in concentrations of 7-11% represent a major health risk if larger amounts of a concentrated solution are ingested (i.e. by mouth). Exposure of the skin or the eye may cause toxic symptoms. The Swiss Toxicological Information Center discourages consumers from administration of these extracts unless it is known which of them are containing benzethonium chloride and what the concentrations are. " A natural and safe preservative or dietary supplement? Is it worth the risk to you? 2012 Terressentials .. God bless you Iliketrees, Bill ps benzethonium chloride sounds an awful like the chemical benzolconium chloride which is an antseptic ais not to be ingested orally ever , it is in Lysol & many topical disenfectants . ... also I have watched many people treat with antibiotics Most all also took a propiotic to restore the good bacteria in the stomach I knew one ladt that used : 500mg of tetracyline in the am and 500mg in the evening. She is like brand new. Also she takes acidofolis, 3 billion live cells per capsule to restore the good bacteria the antibiotics kill. She says she cleans with all natural products to keep a balance. Are you using acidofolis or a simalar product ? ------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:34 AM EDT ILIKE TREES wrote: > >Hi linda >Im glad they are a little better! >Though still very upsetting for you and espec because they so faraway!:-( >Hope ur managing to sleep with all the worry >Take care x > > > >------------------------------ >On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 21:43 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: > >>Thanks C. I'm not sure, but I think a little better. She still is not out of the woods. Thanks for thinking of them. Times like this make it tough to have them so far away. >> >> >> >> >> Re: Re:hi >> >> >>Thanks Aa >>Im actualy feeling better today as I didnt take any meds at all. <br / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Hi bill Yes thanks,take acidophilus n slipery elm too! Interesting u posted on grapefruit extract As I took years ago on empty stomach couple o capsules N I was in agony It realy realy damaged by stomach lining Had go on anti ulcur meds after!:-( V strong!! Hope u well! I stoped abx tum beter but feel worse itch wise !:-( ------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 06:23 PDT Doe wrote: > >Hi Iliketrees > > I searched abx to see what it was . > The search found this : > >'.' Candida abx, 90 Vcaps, Apex Energetics | Free Shipping U.S. >Candida abX from Apex Energetics is an herbal and enzyme dietary supplement for '' > >at this link : > >http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/candida-abx-90-p-digestive-system.html > > Is this the type of ABX you are taking ? > > It contains grapefruit seed extract . Did you ever read this Study on grapefruit seed extract ? > >if it is true then I bet it would cause a stomach ache , > > > > >http://www.terressentials.com/truthaboutgse.html > > excerpt : > >Grapefruit seed extract. Sounds so friendly, doesnt it? Youve heard it touted as a natural preservative, and the health food store sells it in a capsule as an antifungal supplement. If everybody says that its natural they must be correct, right? Wrong. > >Grapefruit seed extract is not grapefruit juice. It is also not grapefruit essential oil and it is most certainly not an herbal tincture. Chemical manufacturers take the leftover grapefruit pulp, a waste by-product from grapefruit juice production, and in an intensive, multi-step industrial chemical process, change the natural phenolic compounds into synthetic quaternary ammonium compounds. Typically, in chemical synthesis of this type, chemical reagents and catalysts are used under extreme high heat and pressure or vacuum. Synthetic ammonium chloride is one of the chemical catalysts used in this process. > >...... > > > >Additionally, three extracts contained the preserving substances triclosan and methyl paraben. In only one of the grapefruit seed extracts tested no preservative agent was found. However, with this extract as well as with several self-made extracts from seed and juiceless pulp of grapefruits (Citrus paradisi), no antimicrobial activity could be detected. Thus, it is concluded that the potent as well as nearly universal antimicrobial activity being attributed to grapefruit seed extract is merely due to the synthetic preservative agents contained within. Natural products with antimicrobial activity do not appear to be present. > >Further, the USDA did a grapefruit seed extract study (full text here (pdf)) and declared, Confirming an earlier study by researchers in Germany we found that some commercial grapefruit seed extracts contain benzethonium chloride, a synthetic antimicrobial agent commonly used in cosmetics and only approved for topical use, at relatively high levels of 8%. > >The Swiss Toxicological Information Center of Basel, Switzerland, reports that Grapefruit seed extracts containing benzethonium chloride in concentrations of 7-11% represent a major health risk if larger amounts of a concentrated solution are ingested (i.e. by mouth). Exposure of the skin or the eye may cause toxic symptoms. The Swiss Toxicological Information Center discourages consumers from administration of these extracts unless it is known which of them are containing benzethonium chloride and what the concentrations are. " > >A natural and safe preservative or dietary supplement? Is it worth the risk to you? > > > > > > 2012 Terressentials > >. > > > >God bless you Iliketrees, > >Bill > > >ps benzethonium chloride sounds an awful like the chemical benzolconium chloride which is an antseptic ais not to be ingested orally ever , it is in Lysol & many topical disenfectants . ... > > > >also I have watched many people treat with antibiotics >Most all also took a propiotic to restore the good bacteria in the stomach > I knew one ladt that used : 500mg of tetracyline in the am and 500mg in the evening. She is like brand new. Also she takes acidofolis, 3 billion live cells per capsule to restore the good bacteria the antibiotics kill. She says she cleans with all natural products to keep a balance. > > Are you using acidofolis or a simalar product ? > > >------------------------------ > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 3:34 AM EDT ILIKE TREES wrote: > > > > >Hi linda > >Im glad they are a little better! > >Though still very upsetting for you and espec because they so faraway!:-( > >Hope ur managing to sleep with all the worry > >Take care x > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 21:43 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: > > > >Thanks C. I'm not sure, but I think a little better. She still is not out of the woods. Thanks for thinking of them. Times like this make it tough to have them so far away. > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re:hi > > > > > >Thanks Aa > >Im actualy feeling better today as I didnt take any meds at all. <br / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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