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Thanks Kiki, I am MUCH better today and Thanks EVERYONE!! Connie

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Just now seeing this. I hope your pain is getting better. Prayers

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Welcome from a Fellow South African,

Hoe gaan dit daar aan jou kant van Afrika?

Groete

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" M.J. Vermeulen " <remote_medic777@...> wrote:

> Hi

> My name is Vermeulen I am a South African

>paramedic and is working ofshore Nigeria for International

>sos at the moment. I have been a remote medic for 5 years

>now ,after working in the Pretoria fire dept for 10 years.

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Mooshi sterrick gomo.....as the saying goes..sort of.....! Anyway enjoy the

adventure offshore.

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Welcome from a Fellow South African,

Hoe gaan dit daar aan jou kant van Afrika?

Groete

J

On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:18:48 -0700 (PDT)

" M.J. Vermeulen " <remote_medic777@...> wrote:

> Hi

> My name is Vermeulen I am a South African

>paramedic and is working ofshore Nigeria for International

>sos at the moment. I have been a remote medic for 5 years

>now ,after working in the Pretoria fire dept for 10 years.

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Welcome to the group,

What type of ship and where...?

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I am new to the group, I am an offshore Medic who works on

ships.

Rgds,

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Send your resume to me please?

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A brief Introduction - I am a 29 year old Paramedic, who currently works as an

EMS Division Chief for a fire department in Idaho. I have several international

deployments including Honduras and Sudan. Am currently looking for another

career in the international theater. Resume is available on request.

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Is KBR that desperate now? They have allready ran off all the quality medics.

Lorie Santarlasci <edemtp609@...> wrote:

Send your resume to me please?

<firepup@...> wrote:

A brief Introduction - I am a 29 year old Paramedic, who currently works as an

EMS Division Chief for a fire department in Idaho. I have several international

deployments including Honduras and Sudan. Am currently looking for another

career in the international theater. Resume is available on request.

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mark no need to get nasty

Cheers

Tom G

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Is KBR that desperate now? They have allready ran off all the quality medics.

Lorie Santarlasci <edemtp609@...> wrote:

Send your resume to me please?

<firepup@...> wrote:

A brief Introduction - I am a 29 year old Paramedic, who currently works as

an EMS Division Chief for a fire department in Idaho. I have several

international deployments including Honduras and Sudan. Am currently looking for

another career in the international theater. Resume is available on request.

Thanks,

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I don't think we have run off all of the good medics! We are here working now!

Some have left due to end of contract, others didn't renew... but whatever the

reason, we are in need of a few medics! Just thought since so many people read

this, it could be a starting place! Alot of medics out there are afraid to

leave the states, and will contiue to work 3 jobs... those of us who have done

it, Hoorah for you! But good luck to all!

greaber <tom5255@...> wrote: mark no need to get nasty

Cheers

Tom G

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Is KBR that desperate now? They have allready ran off all the quality medics.

Lorie Santarlasci <edemtp609@...> wrote:

Send your resume to me please?

<firepup@...> wrote:

A brief Introduction - I am a 29 year old Paramedic, who currently works as

an EMS Division Chief for a fire department in Idaho. I have several

international deployments including Honduras and Sudan. Am currently looking for

another career in the international theater. Resume is available on request.

Thanks,

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just trying to keep it interesting

Whats going on tom?

greaber <tom5255@...> wrote:

mark no need to get nasty

Cheers

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Is KBR that desperate now? They have allready ran off all the quality medics.

Lorie Santarlasci <edemtp609@...> wrote:

Send your resume to me please?

<firepup@...> wrote:

A brief Introduction - I am a 29 year old Paramedic, who currently works as

an EMS Division Chief for a fire department in Idaho. I have several

international deployments including Honduras and Sudan. Am currently looking for

another career in the international theater. Resume is available on request.

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Welcome Ivan... the fact that you already have your Offshore cert

will help, but have you done the BOSIET yet - it is a requirement

before working offshore. New starts are notoriously difficult to

get, most companies want experienced Medics, although there are a

few lucky ones who walk straight into a job, myself included. Your

best bet is to send your CV to as many companies and agencies as

possible and see what happens - i get the impression that Oilfield

Medics are quite receptive to new medics.

Good Luck

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> Hi, I've just qualified as a offshore/Remote Area Medic from Exmed

uk after serving 12yrs in the British Army. As a new start to the

industry im just saying hello and would greatly appreciate any help

anyone could give me in securing a job either offshore or in a

remote area, especially any knowledge on who the good and bad firms

are.

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Hello Shana,

I'm so glad to have you ask on how to make soap!!

Here is a website to start you off

www.teachsoap.com

It will give you the basics of what you need to get started.

Click on Soap Making Methods.....this way you will know which one you would like

to try.

There are many books and The Soapmaker's Companion is the bible on soap. You can

get

in from Amazon.com along with many others.

I hope that helped you.

Cheers,

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> hi am shana from sri lanka... am not new but this would be my first

> post... if somebody could help me..i would love to learn how to make

> soap etc but i need to start small with the basics and if someone who

> could help me out..it would be great.

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Merry Christmas C,Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are saying. 

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.  

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

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Subject: hi

bird mites@...

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 Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?

Friend say go doc get dermatology apointment

But I dont think they will help

All they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????

And drugs

Has anyone else got tiny white bugs

Tiny

I dont think doc will help

Espec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest control

My awful ex landlord dealin wi that now

If he deals wi it

I shud o try get when livin there

But I was ill cat ill had get new place throw all my stuf away etc

Been n am traumatized

Stunned rabbit in headlamps feeling

So if doc doesnt help

How to cure?

Anti fungal internals

Wud takin de internally help?

Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunately

Dettol cream on hotspots

Arrid extra dry

Still to get borax after xmas

Got steam iron but waited til moved

N wash machine broke new place

Frustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I left

Cleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.can

Liloneum floors

Hoover what cant

Elisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda

N no drugs from doc

I cant continue to be infested

I cant be around people

Makes u feel sooo bad

Yes others have cancer etc

Thats awful

I know this wont kill me

But it leadin me to a non life

No afection

Isolation

Depression

No one shud have to exist that way

In time cudnt evn get another cat incase it afected:-(

Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girl

Think will have to blast without doc

As doc conservative linear blinkered viewpoint

Its hard that,for a lot of us

C

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Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

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I used some ivermectin today again and feel less buggy.  I ordered it over the Internet for about $4.  It is for horses.  But I take a tiny, tiny bit - about 1/8 or 1/10 of a tsp.  Yes, it helps.  Also, I put neem oil on my scalp every night and usually around my ankles and thighs.  I sometimes rub it on the outside of my pj's on my legs and butt too.  The 2 things that have helped me in a big way are ivermectin and neem oil.  I also eat some garlic every day.  I'm trying to find something else I can tolerate orally.  Thinking about trying olive leaf next week.  Some things make me feel teary and angry and it is had now that I'm not living by myself.  Folks wonder what is wrong -- and what is going on with me.  Since they believe nothing is wrong it is hard to explain.   

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

 

Merry Christmas C,

Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are saying. 

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.  

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

 From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>Subject: hibird mites@...

MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?Friend say go doc get dermatology apointmentBut I dont think they will help

All they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????And drugsHas anyone else got tiny white bugsTinyI dont think doc will helpEspec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest controlMy awful ex landlord dealin wi that now

If he deals wi itI shud o try get when livin thereBut I was ill cat ill had get new place throw all my stuf away etcBeen n am traumatizedStunned rabbit in headlamps feelingSo if doc doesnt helpHow to cure?

Anti fungal internalsWud takin de internally help?Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunatelyDettol cream on hotspotsArrid extra dryStill to get borax after xmasGot steam iron but waited til moved

N wash machine broke new placeFrustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I leftCleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.canLiloneum floorsHoover what cantElisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda

N no drugs from docI cant continue to be infestedI cant be around peopleMakes u feel sooo badYes others have cancer etcThats awful I know this wont kill meBut it leadin me to a non lifeNo afection

IsolationDepressionNo one shud have to exist that wayIn time cudnt evn get another cat incase it afected:-(Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girlThink will have to blast without doc

As doc conservative linear blinkered viewpointIts hard that,for a lot of usC

-- I keep six honest serving-men  (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Hi All,

 

I just wanted to share this with those of you who are depressed.  I think Rhonda (author) techniques might help some of us.  I know that I feel this is one of the worst times of my life, etc., etc. and you that are going thru this probably do too.  But just maybe we make it thru and we can help someone else.  Seasonings Greetings.

 

 

By Rhonda http://www.thechristianmeditator.com/Christians-and-depression-change-negative-self-talk.html

It was Christian meditation integrated with the scriptures that helped me overcome 4 years of a deep depression. I remember so clearly the day my healing began. I was waiting for my kids to get out of school.  I sat there in my green mini-van wrenched with emotional pain so thick you could cut it with a knife.  As I waited, I began to take deep breaths and with each exaltation I would mentally affirm, " I release pain. "

Within 10 minutes the pain was gone and I experience a peace that had alluded me for so long. As I dwelled in the quiet, the spirit of God spoke to my heart. In a still, small voice, he said, " Rhonda, the reason you are so depressed is because of the thoughts you are thinking. " Prior to this I wasn't paying much attention to my thoughts, but now aware of them I listened. They came faster than a parading machine gun and they were destructive, debilitating, and down right mean. Every day, I was beating myself down. I was saying words to myself that I'd never let another person get away with. Yet they were able to sneak into my sub-conscious mind day after day.

From that day on I made a conscious effort to stop these negative thoughts and alter my thinking. It wasn't an easy thing because our thoughts become a part of who we are; but I was determined. After several months of examining and prohibiting negative thoughts from entering my mental garden, my depression lifted. Now some 10 years later, I share my story with my Christian brothers and sisters so they can enjoy deliverance as well.

Depression has many causes. It can be biological or psychological.  Biological factors that contribute to depression are side effects from medication, physical illness, hormonal changes, or other neuro-chemical disorders. Psychological factors, which are the most common reasons for depression), include interpersonal losses (loss of a loved one) or external losses (loss of a job), unfortunate life events, physical disease, and prolonged stress.

When faced with traumatic or painful events, there are many ways we can respond. If we acknowledge our pain and losses and allow the healing process to take place, we eventually move past the pain into acceptance and well-being. However, depression often results when we deny or suppress our painful feelings, instead of working through and releasing them. As Christians, we may believe being strong or not showing true emotions is a sign of strength or faith. Yet, research shows that it takes anywhere from 2 to 10 years to recover from the loss or death of a loved one.  Therefore, we must give ourselves permission to grieve. What we repress or resist persist and begins to affect us on a subconscious level, often resulting in depression or other toxic emotions.

People who live through difficult situations or losses successfully tend to do the following actions: 1) they accept their painful feelings as normal, 2) they give themselves permission to feel their painful emotions, 3) they allow themselves to express their feelings, 4) they stay in contact with supportive family and friends, 5) they engage in problem solving, and lastly, 6) they maintain a clear view of reality.

It is number 6, not " maintaining a clear view of reality " that catapults many people into a spiraling depression. Instead of perceiving negative events as they truly are and working through them in a healthy process, those most susceptible to depression begin to interpret events in the most negative light. Their thoughts become distorted; they make erroneous predictions, jump to conclusions, engage in all-or-none thinking, have tunnel vision, personalize situations, and insist that things should be a certain way.

According to Preston, Psy.D. and author of You Can Beat Depression: A Guide to Recovery, " Distortions or errors in thinking and perceiving are seen in almost all types of depression. As a person begins to feel depressed, thoughts and perceptions become extremely negative and pessimistic. Such distortions not only are a symptom of depression but also are a major cause of depression, and in fact are probably the most potent factor that prolongs and intensifies depression, " stated Preston.

Although those who are depressed engage in all these types of destruction thinking, much of it is unconscious to them. " Many times people are not aware of the inner thinking that occurs during times of emotional pain, " said Preston.  " An important and effective method of becoming aware of cognitions (our thoughts) involves using feelings as signals or cues. " For example, " As soon as you notice such a feeling- sadness or frustration- use this emotion to let you know, 'Ok, something is going on in my mind.' Then ask yourself one or more of the following questions: "

" What is going through my mind right now? " " What am I thinking? " " What am I telling myself? " " What am I perceiving about the situation that triggered this feeling? "

It is difficult to change your emotions without first recognizing the thoughts behind them. Once you are paying attention to your thinking, you can alter your thoughts and bring them into reality or under the authority of Christ.

If you are depressed or suffering from other toxic emotions, I encourage you to keep a journal for several days recording each of your thoughts. For reoccurring thoughts, just put a tally next to the phrase every time you think it.

The next step is to begin to challenge every thought that is contrary to God's word or that is distorted or unrealistic. Thoughts like, " I'll never find another job, no one will ever love me again, everybody hates me, I'm the loneliest person on earth, I can't do anything right, I'm never going to feel happy again, or he shouldn't have left me " are examples of distorted thoughts not based in reality.

Now that you have your thoughts listed on paper, it's time to alter or modify these erogenous thoughts and make them more healthy and realistic. On a sheet of paper, list your distorted thoughts on the left side and draw a line down the middle. On the right side you will challenge each negative thought with a realistic response. For example:

" I'll never find another job " may be responded with, " I can't see into the future, but God said he will meet all my needs. I am going to do a better job trusting him. "

" No one will ever love me again " may be responded with, " I know that I feel disappointed with this loss, but that doesn't mean that God doesn't have someone else special just for me. "

" Everybody hates me " may be responded with, " Maybe this person doesn't like me, but I know I am a good person, and I do have many friends and family members who do love me. "

Continue to do this with each negative thought you listed and then continue to challenge each negative thought with rational ones or scriptures. If you can't do it alone, ask a friend to help you come up with rational responses. As you continue to do this, just like me, your depression will begin to subside.

In addition to challenging my thoughts, faith-based meditation helped me to continually observe my thinking and learn to control thoughts by letting them go. Christian meditation along with thought therapy can help you gain back your peace and joy.

If you have a difficult time implementing these techniques, don't hesitate to contact a Christian counselor who believes in meditation and cognitive therapy. Sometimes you need the extra support and accountability that a professional or group provides. Even if you are prescribed medication, it’s still a good idea to work on your thought processes. Whatever the case, you can be healed from depression.  I am a living proof.

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I used some ivermectin today again and feel less buggy.  I ordered it over the Internet for about $4.  It is for horses.  But I take a tiny, tiny bit - about 1/8 or 1/10 of a tsp.  Yes, it helps.  Also, I put neem oil on my scalp every night and usually around my ankles and thighs.  I sometimes rub it on the outside of my pj's on my legs and butt too.  The 2 things that have helped me in a big way are ivermectin and neem oil.  I also eat some garlic every day.  I'm trying to find something else I can tolerate orally.  Thinking about trying olive leaf next week.  Some things make me feel teary and angry and it is had now that I'm not living by myself.  Folks wonder what is wrong -- and what is going on with me.  Since they believe nothing is wrong it is hard to explain.   

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

 

Merry Christmas C,

Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are saying. 

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.  

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

 From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>Subject: hibird mites@...

MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?Friend say go doc get dermatology apointmentBut I dont think they will help

All they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????And drugsHas anyone else got tiny white bugsTinyI dont think doc will helpEspec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest controlMy awful ex landlord dealin wi that now

If he deals wi itI shud o try get when livin thereBut I was ill cat ill had get new place throw all my stuf away etcBeen n am traumatizedStunned rabbit in headlamps feelingSo if doc doesnt helpHow to cure?

Anti fungal internalsWud takin de internally help?Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunatelyDettol cream on hotspotsArrid extra dryStill to get borax after xmasGot steam iron but waited til moved

N wash machine broke new placeFrustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I leftCleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.canLiloneum floorsHoover what cantElisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda

N no drugs from docI cant continue to be infestedI cant be around peopleMakes u feel sooo badYes others have cancer etcThats awful I know this wont kill meBut it leadin me to a non lifeNo afection

IsolationDepressionNo one shud have to exist that wayIn time cudnt evn get another cat incase it afected:-(Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girlThink will have to blast without doc

As doc conservative linear blinkered viewpointIts hard that,for a lot of usC

-- I keep six honest serving-men  (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Hi ,Have you worked out the dosage for the horse paste? With susceptible species ivermectin will also kill on contact (the actual bug or worm) but do be careful. It is better to work out the dosage then take it & get a hefty knock on any bugs biting you. If you take not enough you are breeding for resistance & eventually the mites will be resistant to the ivermectin & it will cease working......but on the other hand, if usage not properly monitored, can build up & excessive dosage (while reasonably high), with ivermectin in particular, as opposed to the other similar systemic endectocides, can have some pretty worrying side effets & in extreme cases can kill.  

Regards,KrysOn 25 December 2011 17:05, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

 

I used some ivermectin today again and feel less buggy.  I ordered it over the Internet for about $4.  It is for horses.  But I take a tiny, tiny bit - about 1/8 or 1/10 of a tsp.  Yes, it helps.  Also, I put neem oil on my scalp every night and usually around my ankles and thighs.  I sometimes rub it on the outside of my pj's on my legs and butt too.  The 2 things that have helped me in a big way are ivermectin and neem oil.  I also eat some garlic every day.  I'm trying to find something else I can tolerate orally.  Thinking about trying olive leaf next week.  Some things make me feel teary and angry and it is had now that I'm not living by myself.  Folks wonder what is wrong -- and what is going on with me.  Since they believe nothing is wrong it is hard to explain.   

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

 

Merry Christmas C,

Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are saying. 

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.  

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

 From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>Subject: hibird mites@...

MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?Friend say go doc get dermatology apointmentBut I dont think they will help

All they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????And drugsHas anyone else got tiny white bugsTinyI dont think doc will helpEspec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest controlMy awful ex landlord dealin wi that now

If he deals wi itI shud o try get when livin thereBut I was ill cat ill had get new place throw all my stuf away etcBeen n am traumatizedStunned rabbit in headlamps feelingSo if doc doesnt helpHow to cure?

Anti fungal internalsWud takin de internally help?Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunatelyDettol cream on hotspotsArrid extra dryStill to get borax after xmas

Got steam iron but waited til moved

N wash machine broke new placeFrustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I leftCleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.canLiloneum floorsHoover what cantElisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda

N no drugs from docI cant continue to be infestedI cant be around peopleMakes u feel sooo badYes others have cancer etcThats awful I know this wont kill meBut it leadin me to a non lifeNo afection

IsolationDepressionNo one shud have to exist that wayIn time cudnt evn get another cat incase it afected:-(Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girlThink will have to blast without doc

As doc conservative linear blinkered viewpointIts hard that,for a lot of usC

-- I keep six honest serving-men  (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Hi Krys! Hope you had a nice Holiday! I was wondering if Ivermectin doesn't kill the eggs, what would you recommend to kill eggs on a human body? I saw that Cecilia said 70 C/158 F kills them. Is that eggs too? Thank you.

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 4:22 PMSubject: Re: Hi

Merry Christmas C,

Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are

saying.

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>Subject: hibird mites@...MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?Friend say go doc get dermatology apointmentBut I dont think they will helpAll they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????And drugsHas anyone else got tiny white bugsTinyI dont think doc will helpEspec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest controlMy awful ex landlord dealin wi that nowIf he deals wi itI shud o try get when livin thereBut I was ill cat ill had get new

place throw all my stuf away etcBeen n am traumatizedStunned rabbit in headlamps feelingSo if doc doesnt helpHow to cure?Anti fungal internalsWud takin de internally help?Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunatelyDettol cream on hotspotsArrid extra dryStill to get borax after xmasGot steam iron but waited til movedN wash machine broke new placeFrustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I leftCleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.canLiloneum floorsHoover what cantElisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda N no drugs from docI cant continue to be infestedI cant be around peopleMakes u feel sooo badYes others have cancer etcThats awful I know this wont kill meBut it leadin me to a non lifeNo afectionIsolationDepressionNo one shud have to exist that wayIn time cudnt evn get another cat

incase it afected:-(Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girlThink will have to blast without docAs doc conservative linear blinkered viewpointIts hard that,for a lot of usC

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

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Thank you Linds,I'll need to do a bit of research, see what I can find.KrysOn 26 December 2011 10:26, Linds J <lj_mom11@...> wrote:

 

Hi Krys! Hope you had a nice Holiday! I was wondering if Ivermectin doesn't kill the eggs, what would you recommend to kill eggs on a human body? I saw that Cecilia said 70 C/158 F kills them. Is that eggs too? Thank you.

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 4:22 PMSubject: Re: Hi

 

Merry Christmas C,

Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are

saying. 

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.  

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

 From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>Subject: hibird mites@...

MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?Friend say go doc get dermatology apointmentBut I dont think they will help

All they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????And drugsHas anyone else got tiny white bugsTinyI dont think doc will helpEspec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest controlMy awful ex landlord dealin wi that now

If he deals wi itI shud o try get when livin thereBut I was ill cat ill had get new

place throw all my stuf away etcBeen n am traumatizedStunned rabbit in headlamps feelingSo if doc doesnt helpHow to cure?Anti fungal internalsWud takin de internally help?Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunately

Dettol cream on hotspotsArrid extra dryStill to get borax after xmasGot steam iron but waited til movedN wash machine broke new placeFrustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I leftCleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.can

Liloneum floorsHoover what cantElisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda N no drugs from docI cant continue to be infestedI cant be around peopleMakes u feel sooo badYes others have cancer etc

Thats awful I know this wont kill meBut it leadin me to a non lifeNo afectionIsolationDepressionNo one shud have to exist that wayIn time cudnt evn get another cat

incase it afected:-(Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girlThink will have to blast without docAs doc conservative linear blinkered viewpointIts hard that,for a lot of us

C

-- I keep six honest serving-men  (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Sorry I had meant to type infest instead of infect (see hi-light below).KrysOn 26 December 2011 12:49, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

Hi C,Still might be an idea to get some of the white things in a bug pot for closer inspection. Better than taking them to be analysed & finding they're not bugs but something else......then they do give strange looks.

Whether or not the mites would usually reproduce actually on the human body would depend upon the type of mite. At least two types of biting bird mite have been shown, in scientific studies, to infect humans & other non avian species. But, those two species behaviour patterns differ. Red mite breeds mostly off the host while northern fowl mite breeds mostly on the host. Red mites are harder to kill. 

I've just found some interesting, potentially useful, info but have to get on & do other stuff. Just been reading a site stating Northern Fowl Mites mites have been shown to pass 

Borrelia anserina to chickens. Borrelia is the Lyme genus & anser is Latin for goose so I wonder whether that is a type of Lyme affecting poultry?

I'll get back later.Regards,KrysOn 26 December 2011 10:51, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

 

No dont see them moving

Tjough sometimes from corner of eye think may see them move but cannot be sure

So tiny

u said they die when bite,one less mite

But do they not reproduce on humans? 

 --

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Yes thanks

V good to understand better

C

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 11:32 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>Oh my gosh Krys... can't wait to hear that info.

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>Hi C,

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>Still might be an idea to get some of the white things in a bug pot for closer

inspection. Better than taking them to be analysed & finding they're not bugs

but something else......then they do give strange looks.

>Whether or not the mites would usually reproduce actually on the human body

would depend upon the type of mite. At least two types of biting bird mite have

been shown, in scientific studies, to infect humans & other non avian species.

But, those two species behaviour patterns differ. Red mite breeds mostly off the

host while northern fowl mite breeds mostly on the host. Red mites are harder to

kill.

>I've just found some interesting, potentially useful, info but have to get on &

do other stuff. Just been reading a site stating Northern Fowl Mites mites have

been shown to pass Borrelia anserina to chickens. Borrelia is the Lyme genus &

anser is Latin for goose so I wonder whether that is a type of Lyme affecting

poultry?

>

>

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>I'll get back later.

>Regards,

>Krys

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>On 26 December 2011 10:51, Sad Girl < wherearetheangels70@... > wrote:

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>No dont see them moving

>Tjough sometimes from corner of eye think may see them move but cannot be sure

>So tiny

>u said they die when bite,one less mite

>But do they not reproduce on humans?

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>--

>

>I keep six honest serving-men

>(They taught me all I knew);

>Their names are What and Why and When

>And How and Where and Who.

>

>Rudyard Kipling

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Thanks Krys! That would be great!

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 11:26 AMSubject: Re: Hi

Thank you Linds,

I'll need to do a bit of research, see what I can find.

Krys

On 26 December 2011 10:26, Linds J <lj_mom11@...> wrote:

Hi Krys! Hope you had a nice Holiday! I was wondering if Ivermectin doesn't kill the eggs, what would you recommend to kill eggs on a human body? I saw that Cecilia said 70 C/158 F kills them. Is that eggs too? Thank you.

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 4:22 PMSubject: Re: Hi

Merry Christmas C,

Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are

saying.

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>Subject: hibird mites@...MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?Friend say go doc get dermatology apointmentBut I dont think they will helpAll they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????And drugsHas anyone else got tiny white bugsTinyI dont think doc will helpEspec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest controlMy awful ex landlord dealin wi that nowIf he deals wi itI shud o try get when livin thereBut I was ill cat ill had get new

place throw all my stuf away etcBeen n am traumatizedStunned rabbit in headlamps feelingSo if doc doesnt helpHow to cure?Anti fungal internalsWud takin de internally help?Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunatelyDettol cream on hotspotsArrid extra dryStill to get borax after xmasGot steam iron but waited til movedN wash machine broke new placeFrustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I leftCleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.canLiloneum floorsHoover what cantElisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda N no drugs from docI cant continue to be infestedI cant be around peopleMakes u feel sooo badYes others have cancer etcThats awful I know this wont kill meBut it leadin me to a non lifeNo afectionIsolationDepressionNo one shud have to exist that wayIn time cudnt evn get another cat

incase it afected:-(Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girlThink will have to blast without docAs doc conservative linear blinkered viewpointIts hard that,for a lot of usC

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

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Sorry I haven't got back to you, & Linds, I haven't forgotten, just haven't had time to look properly. Linds, I don't know that I can find something to safely kill eggs on humans, but have only looked at the obvious ideas so far.

Regards,KrysOn 25 December 2011 17:41, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

 

Yes and no.  I read something a while back on this forum and can't remember the exact details.  I tried to try to convert it into pounds - I weigh around 112 lbs .  I did take too much one time and felt very weird.  I only take it a few times a month.  I should go back and try to work on it so as not to build up resistance.  Thanks Krys.

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

 

Hi ,

Have you worked out the dosage for the horse paste? With susceptible species ivermectin will also kill on contact (the actual bug or worm) but do be careful. It is better to work out the dosage then take it & get a hefty knock on any bugs biting you. If you take not enough you are breeding for resistance & eventually the mites will be resistant to the ivermectin & it will cease working......but on the other hand, if usage not properly monitored, can build up & excessive dosage (while reasonably high), with ivermectin in particular, as opposed to the other similar systemic endectocides, can have some pretty worrying side effets & in extreme cases can kill.  

Regards,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 17:05, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

 

I used some ivermectin today again and feel less buggy.  I ordered it over the Internet for about $4.  It is for horses.  But I take a tiny, tiny bit - about 1/8 or 1/10 of a tsp.  Yes, it helps.  Also, I put neem oil on my scalp every night and usually around my ankles and thighs.  I sometimes rub it on the outside of my pj's on my legs and butt too.  The 2 things that have helped me in a big way are ivermectin and neem oil.  I also eat some garlic every day.  I'm trying to find something else I can tolerate orally.  Thinking about trying olive leaf next week.  Some things make me feel teary and angry and it is had now that I'm not living by myself.  Folks wonder what is wrong -- and what is going on with me.  Since they believe nothing is wrong it is hard to explain.   

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

 

Merry Christmas C,

Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are saying. 

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.  

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

 From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>Subject: hibird mites@...

MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?Friend say go doc get dermatology apointmentBut I dont think they will help

All they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????And drugsHas anyone else got tiny white bugsTinyI dont think doc will helpEspec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest controlMy awful ex landlord dealin wi that now

If he deals wi itI shud o try get when livin thereBut I was ill cat ill had get new place throw all my stuf away etcBeen n am traumatizedStunned rabbit in headlamps feelingSo if doc doesnt helpHow to cure?

Anti fungal internalsWud takin de internally help?Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunatelyDettol cream on hotspotsArrid extra dryStill to get borax after xmas

Got steam iron but waited til moved

N wash machine broke new placeFrustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I leftCleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.canLiloneum floorsHoover what cantElisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda

N no drugs from docI cant continue to be infestedI cant be around peopleMakes u feel sooo badYes others have cancer etcThats awful I know this wont kill meBut it leadin me to a non lifeNo afection

IsolationDepressionNo one shud have to exist that wayIn time cudnt evn get another cat incase it afected:-(Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girlThink will have to blast without doc

As doc conservative linear blinkered viewpointIts hard that,for a lot of usC

-- I keep six honest serving-men  (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When  And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men  (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Thanks for your time, Krys. Its very much appreciated.

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:48 PMSubject: Re: Hi

Sorry I haven't got back to you, & Linds, I haven't forgotten, just haven't had time to look properly. Linds, I don't know that I can find something to safely kill eggs on humans, but have only looked at the obvious ideas so far.

Regards,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 17:41, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

Yes and no. I read something a while back on this forum and can't remember the exact details. I tried to try to convert it into pounds - I weigh around 112 lbs . I did take too much one time and felt very weird. I only take it a few times a month. I should go back and try to work on it so as not to build up resistance. Thanks Krys.

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

Hi ,

Have you worked out the dosage for the horse paste? With susceptible species ivermectin will also kill on contact (the actual bug or worm) but do be careful. It is better to work out the dosage then take it & get a hefty knock on any bugs biting you. If you take not enough you are breeding for resistance & eventually the mites will be resistant to the ivermectin & it will cease working......but on the other hand, if usage not properly monitored, can build up & excessive dosage (while reasonably high), with ivermectin in particular, as opposed to the other similar systemic endectocides, can have some pretty worrying side effets & in extreme cases can kill.

Regards,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 17:05, <terelynjon@...> wrote:

I used some ivermectin today again and feel less buggy. I ordered it over the Internet for about $4. It is for horses. But I take a tiny, tiny bit - about 1/8 or 1/10 of a tsp. Yes, it helps. Also, I put neem oil on my scalp every night and usually around my ankles and thighs. I sometimes rub it on the outside of my pj's on my legs and butt too. The 2 things that have helped me in a big way are ivermectin and neem oil. I also eat some garlic every day. I'm trying to find something else I can tolerate orally. Thinking about trying olive leaf next week. Some things make me feel teary and angry and it is had now that I'm not living by myself. Folks wonder what is wrong -- and what is going on with me. Since they believe nothing is wrong it is hard to explain.

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

Merry Christmas C,

Ivermectin will not kill mite eggs; it is systemic, which means it circulated throughout the body. The mite only dies after it has bitten you, so,assuming the mites are not resistant, more or less every mite that bites you will die & so is one less mite to bite you. It kills quite a few types of parasite, but if an external parasite does not take a blood drink, it does not die.

The tiny white bugs could be the nymphs; they go dark after a blood meal. Have you seen them moving? Could you put some in one those kiddies bug pots which have magnifying glasses on he lid?

A dermatologist could be the person to see, but you do run the risk of being called delusional. It has happened to a lot of people here, including my mother. That isn't to say it happens to everyone; you might get lucky or you can ask to be referred elsewhere. I don't know whether you know, with the NHS one has the right to choose the hospital to which one is referred? So often the GPs seem to refer people to whichever hospital they choose, but, in fact, you have the right to make that decision yourself; you just need to ask to be referred to the dermatologist in the hospital of your choice. The more knowledgeable you sound the better your chances of being taken seriously. Be calm, be assertive. There are various scientific studies about bird mites infesting humans ( & other species). Perhaps it would help to print some off (at the library if you don't have a printer), & show them to the dermatologist to back up what you are

saying.

Another tactic, could be to show the dermatologist the bites & leave it to them make up their minds. No doubt they'll they'll make the wrong diagnosis, but they will probably give you some creams which may help...... & they won't start calling you delusional. As long as they don't treat you like a loony, anything they give you can't be any worse than nothing & , in a couple of months, when all their solutions have failed, they might be more open to the idea of bird mites.

Once again, Yuletide greetings to you,

Krys

On 25 December 2011 03:05, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...> wrote:

From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>Subject: hibird mites@...MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh is it possible to kick this without invermectin to kill the eggs?Friend say go doc get dermatology apointmentBut I dont think they will helpAll they wanted was psychiatrist diagnosis????And drugsHas anyone else got tiny white bugsTinyI dont think doc will helpEspec if cant get positive verificstion from.pest controlMy awful ex landlord dealin wi that nowIf he deals wi itI shud o try get when livin thereBut I was ill cat ill had get new

place throw all my stuf away etcBeen n am traumatizedStunned rabbit in headlamps feelingSo if doc doesnt helpHow to cure?Anti fungal internalsWud takin de internally help?Washing self scrubbin baking soda every day in shower as no bath unfortunatelyDettol cream on hotspotsArrid extra dryStill to get borax after xmasGot steam iron but waited til movedN wash machine broke new placeFrustrating as bought new one last place n new hoover I leftCleanin wi disinfectant spray everywhere i.canLiloneum floorsHoover what cantElisse did u beat it wi epsom n baking soda N no drugs from docI cant continue to be infestedI cant be around peopleMakes u feel sooo badYes others have cancer etcThats awful I know this wont kill meBut it leadin me to a non lifeNo afectionIsolationDepressionNo one shud have to exist that wayIn time cudnt evn get another cat

incase it afected:-(Tho wudnt want one for long time anyway as heart belongs to my dear sweet girlThink will have to blast without docAs doc conservative linear blinkered viewpointIts hard that,for a lot of usC

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

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Thanks ellissa

Just miss my old home things n most of all my wee cat

Miss being normal n not being itchy!:-(

Think it awfil that doctors mostly dont take seriously too

What a conundrum

Doing 200g baking soda scrub every day in shower

U did that n epsom

How long did it take fir the wee critters to leave u when u did that?

Best wishes to u too

C

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On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 16:36 PST Elissa wrote:

>So sorry things are so rough for you C. Just know that things will get

>better.

>

>On Dec 27, 2011 12:06 PM, " Kaz " <kazk1@...> wrote:

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>Hi C

>

>Sorry your suffering so much.. polyester isn't nice is it?.. Try to

>remember, it won't always be like this - we have noticed a big improvement

>in the past, but I think that because I didn't keep up the disinfecting and

>hoovering, they are back - not for long though.. I am using zoflora in the

>steamer every day this week, and am determined to get on top of things -

>also will start oregano/olive leaf extract - I'm looking into allicin as

>well.

>

>I'll send you my number.

>

>Take care

>

>Kaz x

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>From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels70@...>

>bird mites

>*Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:52 PM

>*Subject:* Re: hi

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>Kaz get landline 30 th december

>Lost ur number.in move but u can give me again

>N phone u soon

>Oh...

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I've just spoken to C on the phone - she is having problems with her phone that she sends her messages from and just wants to say hello to everyone and will be back when her phone is sorted out.Kaz x

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