Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Hi : miteymaid Did you ever read shans aapproach o 25 % flea powder & 75 % DE ? dusted litely on everything. ? Then burn the Menthyl crystal to agitat them out of hiding due to the terrible overpower smell or the Menthyl crystals .. I don't thein Menthyl crystals kill a bug but it will make them move & tus walk thru the poison powder .. Here is her link & an excerpt : http://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112 Home About Me Our Story Shanspirations Blessed to Be a Homekeeper: My Everyday Education, My Everyday Delights. Help! I m Being Bit By Something I Can t See! What do I do? After nearly three months of dealing with some sort of invisible biting bug I d like to take a moment to detail what we would do if we knew at the start what we know now. If you find this post and you have just started experiencing this problem, this is a best practices snapshot of our current knowledge and experience. This is a guideline for getting rid of the bites . I suspect that this guide could be shortened and that other very effective products could be mentioned, but I don t know about them and can t shorten it with my current knowledge. I wish and I could have found a step-by-step guide, even if flawed, three months ago when we first got this problem—so I offer this one to help anyone it can. Step 1 - Place Internet Orders for Long Term Relief It will take you about a week to receive all of the products you need to fight the bugs, so your first step should be to order the products. We have tried many options recommended by others and ones we thought of on our own. These are the products that have produced the best results, most of which are not commonly available and need to be ordered. I have broken these products down into two categories - products to fix the problem in your house / car / workplace, and products to help the problem on your skin. Products to Clean Your Environment - You should order ALL of these products, they are all important, so don t skip any of them just because they seem unfamiliar right now. Feel free to shop around to get the best price. Diatomaceous Earth - DE is the fossilized remains of single cell diatoms. Diatoms look like a knife blade under the microscope, and they act like crushed glass to insects causing rapid dehydration. There are two kinds, amorphous (food grade) and crystalline. The crystalline type is made by subjecting the DE to heat, which changes the structure of the amorphous silica into crystalline silica. Crystalline DE is useful for filtering applications (pools, labs, etc) however it can cause silicosis if inhaled, and is ineffective against insects. You will want the amorphous silica food grade DE, which you will almost certainly need to order.Prices for food-grade DE vary dramatically. If you buy it in gel-caps as a supplement it will cost you $200/lb, however if you buy it in bulk you can get it for less then $1/lb. We bought a 50 lb bag for under $50 from Wolf Creek Ranch, however you can get smaller quantities for a reasonable price from Yardiac Garden Center.You will need about 1 lb to dust a 1500 sq ft house and 2-3 lbs for personal use (in shoes, on your bed, etc). This will get you about 1-2 weeks of treatment. We have used about 15 lbs since we got the stuff. We found out about this product from an out-of-town exterminator friend. Pyrethrum Powder - If you read much about this problem you will hear repeatedly that pyrethroids are ineffective against these mites. This is partially true in that a pyrethroid alone will almost certainly not work, however we had good success using it in combination with DE. I think that these insects quickly become immune to pyrethroids, so you will want to use the powder the right way so that you get rid of them the first time.I tried a synthetic pyrethroid (cypermethrin) in our cars (with a fogger) and it made a big difference the first time (not a total fix, but it helped a lot), however within a week they were back stronger then ever and additional uses of the fogger didn t seem to do anything at all.The option I would use if I did it over again would be to purchase pyrethrum powder (shop around, this is just an example). What we did use was a dog flea powder (0.5% permethrin) that we bought locally for a very expensive price ($5 / 4 oz).Mix the (cont) more at ..... http://www.shanspirations.org/?p=112 God bless you , Bill ps my favorite post of all is this farmers view: Mites and farmer tricks link bird mites/message/10634 I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but " mites " are nothing new, and there is nothing " foreign about them. I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, " semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the " lice " that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly " got warmer " in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the " itch " for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are " redbugs, " picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want to take a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living room when you buy that " real " tree at Christmas. The " Mange " in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, " Scabies, " that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the " creeping crud, " a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other " hot " place. We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the " skin " from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the " itch " out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of " flowers of sulfur; " which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters. As for borax; you can buy " 20 Mule Team " borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were " blowing " recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry. If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic properties Summary : Borax$3.99 Mustard 2.00 skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99 pinesol $4.00 bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.com baking soda $1.00 tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s paste Pretty cheap ! And they work ------------------------------On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 10:08 AM EST miteymaid wrote:>Hi,>I'm wondering how I could hit all three rooms that way at one time. Doesn't the borax stay in the air or on the floor and get into your lungs? At this point I'm afraid I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't but using all this stuff if not done properly could be really toxic too. I found that out when I came back to soon with the menthol crystals.I've used very small amounts of menthol to keep them away at night but this time I used a lot to try and clear the place. When I came back I could feel the mites were very agitated, they were very active, that's what I meant Aandraya. I vacuumed and it was a little better but I think they also just calmed down after awhile. Also I only have windows at one end of the apartment. The kitchen and bathroom have vents in the ceiling.Just wondering how it would work here.>Ellen>>>Hi,>I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and>> Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and>> I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Sure looks like it is going that way, Andraya. I'll talk with the Dr. From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:16 PMSubject: Re: Cheyletiella mites - Please!!! Get an Igenix western blot Lyme test. Aandraya On Dec 29, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Hi, Miteymaid, I threw my fogger out. The cedarcide wasn't enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infectious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something to ponder about. A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: It's amazing all the awful stuff a bird's nest contains. I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothing than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in my hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my feet. I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my visist. He can't deny my specimens. Love and light, From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PMSubject: Cheyletiella mites Hi,I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Hi Ellen, Let's hope my Dr. is willing to ID what I take him. If only we could get an ID. Andray may be right, I may have Lyme. Let's hope for the best on an ID. I'll let you know what he says. Love and light, From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:29 PMSubject: Re: Cheyletiella mites I don't know why I can never get anything I send into entomologists id'd as anything but debris. After I had sprayed my mattress with sterifab I saw all these tiny black specs, sent them in and was told they were nothing. Had my grandson's microscope for awhile and thought I saw a bloody mite once but lost it and a cocoon of sorts and maybe larva. Threw out everything when I moved. You could see your stuff visually? The reason I'd like an I.d. Is that I still think I get even more infested from my daughter's home and I would know for sure whether to avoid her place or not as it is very hard to say no to your child. There was that woman, , of skin mites who swore for cedarcide, but she charges for her advice. On bedbugger.com where I first started research they said it was the silica doing the knockdown, not the cedar and you could call the stuff siliconcide but that wouldn't sound as good.Ellen>> Hi, Miteymaid,>     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infectious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something to ponder about.  > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations:>  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothing than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in my hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my visist. He can't deny my specimens.> Love and light,> > > > ________________________________> From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>> bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM> Subject: Cheyletiella mites> > >  > Hi,> I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live> with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried> saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I sure hope you at least get the test . I am so grateful that we did at LAST. My God, I had that damn Lyme Disease for YEARS! May have gotten a second infection of LD, but for sure got the Bartonella and probably Babesia from the mites!From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:24:26 PMSubject: Re: Cheyletiella mites Sure looks like it is going that way, Andraya. I'll talk with the Dr. From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:16 PMSubject: Re: Cheyletiella mites - Please!!! Get an Igenix western blot Lyme test. Aandraya On Dec 29, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Hi, Miteymaid, I threw my fogger out. The cedarcide wasn't enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infectious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something to ponder about. A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: It's amazing all the awful stuff a bird's nest contains. I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothing than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in my hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my feet. I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my visist. He can't deny my specimens. Love and light, From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PMSubject: Cheyletiella mites Hi,I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Ellen-One band is enough to have Lyme. Was it an Igenix test? Do you have a copy? Which one was positive? Did you have any IND? That is a positive to a Lyme literate doctor. You need to get a copy, and you really ought to see a Lyme literate doctor. ID docs do not know how to interpret Lyme tests. The white lines under the skin are common with Lyme/Bartonella combo. I had those too.AandrayaOn Dec 30, 2011, at 8:57 AM, miteymaid <miteymaid@...> wrote: Hi Aandraya, I only have bites and some itching. At night it's especially bad in bed which is where they seem to attack me most. I have tiny whitish lines and bumps under my skin, I notice most on my hands and arms. I can tell they're in my nose, when I wake in the morning and blow little red dots come out. Several years ago I thought I saw a mite under the microscope but crushed iy and it turned red. Thought I saw a cocoon like thing but never was able to get any I'd, was told it was all debrie and gave up. Found it was very difficult to look into the microscope to examine lint paper I had rolled on bed. No longer have microscope but thought that kind with the big lens would be best if started again. Looked under 200x. When I shower feel crawling in my hair and biting on my feet at night is really painful. Wonder if nerves are closer to the surface there. Have been going to bed with some menthol chrystals in a sock. At infectious disease doctors tested one band positive for lyme but was told needed 5 bands, one just showed been exposed. Very difficult to get them out of clothes and comforter. Know they're always around but much of the time, during the day they don't bother me. Ellen > > > > > > Hi, Miteymaid, > > >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infec > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something t > > o ponder about.  > > > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: > > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothin > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in m > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my > > visist. He can't deny my specimens. > > > Love and light, > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> > > > bird mites > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > > > > > > > >  > > > Hi, > > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried > > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 I don't know what kind of test it was or what an IND is. I'm in N.Y.C. So there should be llmd's here. Do you know the best sites for referrals? I so don't like going to doctors but I'd like to be rid of this. My daughter thinks I have delusional parasitosis. The white lines are really subtle, I probably wouldn't even notice them if it weren't for the biting. At one point before I moved it felt like splinters going into my fingers at night and I felt like I was getting arthritis in those 2 fingers from it. And it felt like glass under my skin on my feet. When you were treated for internals were you still doing your environment? Ellen > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Miteymaid, > > > > >     I threw my fogger out.  The > > cedarcide wasn't > > > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol.à > > ‚ The doxy is > > > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all > > information > > > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an > > Infec > > > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him > > something t > > > > o ponder about.  > > > > > A loose theory " by me " at this point based on recent > > observations: > > > > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest > > contains. > > > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my > > clothin > > > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then > > movement in m > > > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky > > roller. > > > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally > > to my > > > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, > > bacteria, > > > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the > > herpes 1 > > > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report > > after my > > > > visist. He can't deny my specimens. > > > > > Love and light, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> > > > > > bird mites > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > > > > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and > > sprayed > > > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had > > some > > > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 > > did > > > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started > > getting a > > > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and > > cats > > > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh > > chemicals. > > > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > > > > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get > > rid > > > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and > > doctors,entomologists > > > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals > > and > > > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south > > to > > > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried > > > > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, > > I'm > > > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Thanks . I'm holding off on the menthol for awhile. I felt like I burned mi insides from it. That sounds like a good idea although I'm a little afraid of the de.When I put down some baking soda and salt one time I could feel it in my throat. Seems I'm having lots of trouble with chemicals. Even when I had my place sprayed with the Onslaught and Nylar I had to stay in a hotel for the night. But something to think about. I've tried out your and Sara's remedies by putting borax or washing soda in enough water to cover my feet to see how it worked. One thing when I use salts I can really feel them act out with the borax they don't seem to jump around. Do you have to be careful about not doing it so often that you get too much of this stuff in your system? Ellen >Hi,>I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old > computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and>> Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to > use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and>> I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.>>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 I had those lines too.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:19:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites Ellen-One band is enough to have Lyme. Was it an Igenix test? Do you have a copy? Which one was positive? Did you have any IND? That is a positive to a Lyme literate doctor. You need to get a copy, and you really ought to see a Lyme literate doctor. ID docs do not know how to interpret Lyme tests. The white lines under the skin are common with Lyme/Bartonella combo. I had those too.AandrayaOn Dec 30, 2011, at 8:57 AM, miteymaid <miteymaid@...> wrote: Hi Aandraya, I only have bites and some itching. At night it's especially bad in bed which is where they seem to attack me most. I have tiny whitish lines and bumps under my skin, I notice most on my hands and arms. I can tell they're in my nose, when I wake in the morning and blow little red dots come out. Several years ago I thought I saw a mite under the microscope but crushed iy and it turned red. Thought I saw a cocoon like thing but never was able to get any I'd, was told it was all debrie and gave up. Found it was very difficult to look into the microscope to examine lint paper I had rolled on bed. No longer have microscope but thought that kind with the big lens would be best if started again. Looked under 200x. When I shower feel crawling in my hair and biting on my feet at night is really painful. Wonder if nerves are closer to the surface there. Have been going to bed with some menthol chrystals in a sock. At infectious disease doctors tested one band positive for lyme but was told needed 5 bands, one just showed been exposed. Very difficult to get them out of clothes and comforter. Know they're always around but much of the time, during the day they don't bother me. Ellen > > > > > > Hi, Miteymaid, > > >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infec > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something t > > o ponder about.  > > > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: > > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothin > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in m > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my > > visist. He can't deny my specimens. > > > Love and light, > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> > > > bird mites > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > > > > > > > >  > > > Hi, > > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried > > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed ....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please .. God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').') (`'.(`'.New .').') (`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >>----- Original Message ----->From: " Aandraya " <aandraya@...> >To: bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:19:11 PM >Subject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites >>>>>Ellen- >One band is enough to have Lyme. Was it an Igenix test? Do you have a copy? Which one was positive? Did you have any IND? That is a positive to a Lyme literate doctor. You need to get a copy, and you really ought to see a Lyme literate doctor. ID docs do not know how to interpret Lyme tests. The white lines under the skin are common with Lyme/Bartonella combo. I had those too. >>>Aandraya >>>>>On Dec 30, 2011, at 8:57 AM, miteymaid < miteymaid@... > wrote: >>>>>>>>>Hi Aandraya, >I only have bites and some itching. At night it's especially bad in bed which is where they seem to attack me most. I have tiny whitish lines and bumps under my skin, I notice most on my hands and arms. I can tell they're in my nose, when I wake in the morning and blow little red dots come out. Several years ago I thought I saw a mite under the microscope but crushed iy and it turned red. Thought I saw a cocoon like thing but never was able to get any I'd, was told it was all debrie and gave up. Found it was very difficult to look into the microscope to examine lint paper I had rolled on bed. No longer have microscope but thought that kind with the big lens would be best if started again. Looked under 200x. When I shower feel crawling in my hair and biting on my feet at night is really painful. Wonder if nerves are closer to the surface there. Have been going to bed with some menthol chrystals in a sock. At infectious disease doctors tested one band positive for lyme but was told needed 5 bands, one just showed been exposed. Very difficult to get them out of clothes and comforter. Know they're always around but much of the time, during the day they don't bother me. >Ellen >> >> > > >> > > Hi, Miteymaid, >> > >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't >> > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is >> > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information >> > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infec >> > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something t >> > o ponder about.  >> > > A loose theory " by me " at this point based on recent observations: >> > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. >> > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothin >> > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in m >> > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. >> > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my >> > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, >> > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 >> > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when >> > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my >> > visist. He can't deny my specimens. >> > > Love and light, >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ________________________________ >> > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> >> > > To: bird mites >> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM >> > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > >  >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >> > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Indeterminate is IND, it means the lab tech saw something. To an LLMD it is positive, but you had a positive band anyway. If you are in New York I'd go see Dr. Cameron, my friend saw him and flew all the way from WI. Which band was positive and which if any were IND?AandrayaOn Dec 31, 2011, at 10:37 PM, miteymaid <emccallny@...> wrote: I don't know what kind of test it was or what an IND is. I'm in N.Y.C. So there should be llmd's here. Do you know the best sites for referrals? I so don't like going to doctors but I'd like to be rid of this. My daughter thinks I have delusional parasitosis. The white lines are really subtle, I probably wouldn't even notice them if it weren't for the biting. At one point before I moved it felt like splinters going into my fingers at night and I felt like I was getting arthritis in those 2 fingers from it. And it felt like glass under my skin on my feet. When you were treated for internals were you still doing your environment? Ellen > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Miteymaid, > > > > >     I threw my fogger out.  The > > cedarcide wasn't > > > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol.à > > ‚ The doxy is > > > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all > > information > > > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an > > Infec > > > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him > > something t > > > > o ponder about.  > > > > > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent > > observations: > > > > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest > > contains. > > > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my > > clothin > > > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then > > movement in m > > > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky > > roller. > > > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally > > to my > > > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, > > bacteria, > > > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the > > herpes 1 > > > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report > > after my > > > > visist. He can't deny my specimens. > > > > > Love and light, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> > > > > > bird mites > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > > > > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and > > sprayed > > > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had > > some > > > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 > > did > > > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started > > getting a > > > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and > > cats > > > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh > > chemicals. > > > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > > > > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get > > rid > > > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and > > doctors,entomologists > > > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals > > and > > > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south > > to > > > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried > > > > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, > > I'm > > > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Yes, the white lines are very subtle. Mine went away when I treated Bartonella and Lyme. Since you most likely have Lyme you almost for sure have Bart.AaOn Dec 31, 2011, at 10:37 PM, miteymaid <emccallny@...> wrote: I don't know what kind of test it was or what an IND is. I'm in N.Y.C. So there should be llmd's here. Do you know the best sites for referrals? I so don't like going to doctors but I'd like to be rid of this. My daughter thinks I have delusional parasitosis. The white lines are really subtle, I probably wouldn't even notice them if it weren't for the biting. At one point before I moved it felt like splinters going into my fingers at night and I felt like I was getting arthritis in those 2 fingers from it. And it felt like glass under my skin on my feet. When you were treated for internals were you still doing your environment? Ellen > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Miteymaid, > > > > >     I threw my fogger out.  The > > cedarcide wasn't > > > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol.à > > ‚ The doxy is > > > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all > > information > > > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an > > Infec > > > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him > > something t > > > > o ponder about.  > > > > > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent > > observations: > > > > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest > > contains. > > > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my > > clothin > > > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then > > movement in m > > > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky > > roller. > > > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally > > to my > > > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, > > bacteria, > > > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the > > herpes 1 > > > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report > > after my > > > > visist. He can't deny my specimens. > > > > > Love and light, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> > > > > > bird mites > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > > > > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and > > sprayed > > > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had > > some > > > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 > > did > > > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started > > getting a > > > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and > > cats > > > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh > > chemicals. > > > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > > > > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get > > rid > > > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and > > doctors,entomologists > > > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals > > and > > > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south > > to > > > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried > > > > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, > > I'm > > > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I call them bartonella track marks or sometimes they look like cut marks.AaOn Dec 31, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: I had those lines too.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:19:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites Ellen-One band is enough to have Lyme. Was it an Igenix test? Do you have a copy? Which one was positive? Did you have any IND? That is a positive to a Lyme literate doctor. You need to get a copy, and you really ought to see a Lyme literate doctor. ID docs do not know how to interpret Lyme tests. The white lines under the skin are common with Lyme/Bartonella combo. I had those too.AandrayaOn Dec 30, 2011, at 8:57 AM, miteymaid <miteymaid@...> wrote: Hi Aandraya, I only have bites and some itching. At night it's especially bad in bed which is where they seem to attack me most. I have tiny whitish lines and bumps under my skin, I notice most on my hands and arms. I can tell they're in my nose, when I wake in the morning and blow little red dots come out. Several years ago I thought I saw a mite under the microscope but crushed iy and it turned red. Thought I saw a cocoon like thing but never was able to get any I'd, was told it was all debrie and gave up. Found it was very difficult to look into the microscope to examine lint paper I had rolled on bed. No longer have microscope but thought that kind with the big lens would be best if started again. Looked under 200x. When I shower feel crawling in my hair and biting on my feet at night is really painful. Wonder if nerves are closer to the surface there. Have been going to bed with some menthol chrystals in a sock. At infectious disease doctors tested one band positive for lyme but was told needed 5 bands, one just showed been exposed. Very difficult to get them out of clothes and comforter. Know they're always around but much of the time, during the day they don't bother me. Ellen > > > > > > Hi, Miteymaid, > > >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infec > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something t > > o ponder about.  > > > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: > > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothin > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in m > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my > > visist. He can't deny my specimens. > > > Love and light, > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> > > > bird mites > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > > > > > > > >  > > > Hi, > > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried > > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Interesting Bill, the menthol ant test. Let us know how it works.AandrayaOn Jan 1, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Doe <doe1769@...> wrote: Hi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed ....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please .. God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').') (`'.(`'.New .').') (`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >> Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > > Â >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >> > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Makes me smile the way we all keep experimenting. Very well done Bill ! Von: Aandraya <aandraya@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 23:56 Montag, 2.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites Interesting Bill, the menthol ant test. Let us know how it works. Aandraya On Jan 1, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Doe <doe1769@...> wrote: Hi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed .....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please ..God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').')(`'.(`'.New .').')(`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >> Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > > Â >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressivelyworse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >>> to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hi Bill,Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner and hope 2012 brings you so much joy and fulfillment in your life! You are a wonderful person and addition to this group. I don't know of any conference coming up but maybe we could plan one for February again. I think it would be good to do that. If anyone wants to be involved in a phone conference we should do it. I know Aggi and Cecilia can't participate from Europe, nor Kaz. Let me know or Aandraya, Bill or whoever wants to participate in a phone conference which is free. We had a phone conference several months ago which was wonderful. Aandraya had set it up, but it was so good to hear their voices. From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:06:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mitesHi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed ....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please .. God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').') (`'.(`'.New .').') (`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >> Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > > Â >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >> > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I think we can use the same number and code. I'll check and repost it here.AandrayaOn Jan 17, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi Bill,Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner and hope 2012 brings you so much joy and fulfillment in your life! You are a wonderful person and addition to this group. I don't know of any conference coming up but maybe we could plan one for February again. I think it would be good to do that. If anyone wants to be involved in a phone conference we should do it. I know Aggi and Cecilia can't participate from Europe, nor Kaz. Let me know or Aandraya, Bill or whoever wants to participate in a phone conference which is free. We had a phone conference several months ago which was wonderful. Aandraya had set it up, but it was so good to hear their voices. From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:06:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mitesHi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed ....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please .. God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').') (`'.(`'.New .').') (`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >> Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > > Â >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >> > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm an "Ify" as my work load is killing me. Hard to even check this site. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:22 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites Hi Bill, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner and hope 2012 brings you so much joy and fulfillment in your life! You are a wonderful person and addition to this group. I don't know of any conference coming up but maybe we could plan one for February again. I think it would be good to do that. If anyone wants to be involved in a phone conference we should do it. I know Aggi and Cecilia can't participate from Europe, nor Kaz. Let me know or Aandraya, Bill or whoever wants to participate in a phone conference which is free. We had a phone conference several months ago which was wonderful. Aandraya had set it up, but it was so good to hear their voices. From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:06:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mitesHi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed ....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please .. God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').') (`'.(`'.New .').') (`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >> Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > > Â >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >> > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 When you have time , no rush. From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:55:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites I'm an "Ify" as my work load is killing me. Hard to even check this site. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:22 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites Hi Bill, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner and hope 2012 brings you so much joy and fulfillment in your life! You are a wonderful person and addition to this group. I don't know of any conference coming up but maybe we could plan one for February again. I think it would be good to do that. If anyone wants to be involved in a phone conference we should do it. I know Aggi and Cecilia can't participate from Europe, nor Kaz. Let me know or Aandraya, Bill or whoever wants to participate in a phone conference which is free. We had a phone conference several months ago which was wonderful. Aandraya had set it up, but it was so good to hear their voices. From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:06:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mitesHi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed ....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please .. God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').') (`'.(`'.New .').') (`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >> Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > > Â >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >> > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Just take care of yourself . It is much more important at this point!! Healing Hugs for you ! Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 2:06 Samstag, 21.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites When you have time , no rush. From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:55:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites I'm an "Ify" as my work load is killing me. Hard to even check this site. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:22 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites Hi Bill, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner and hope 2012 brings you so much joy and fulfillment in your life! You are a wonderful person and addition to this group. I don't know of any conference coming up but maybe we could plan one for February again. I think it would be good to do that. If anyone wants to be involved in a phone conference we should do it. I know Aggi and Cecilia can't participate from Europe, nor Kaz. Let me know or Aandraya, Bill or whoever wants to participate in a phone conference which is free. We had a phone conference several months ago which was wonderful. Aandraya had set it up, but it was so good to hear their voices. From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:06:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mitesHi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed ....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please .. God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').') (`'.(`'.New .').') (`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >> Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > > Â >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >> > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thank you Aggi. My principal just agreed to let me off on Friday. I need catch up time. From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 3:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites Just take care of yourself . It is much more important at this point!! Healing Hugs for you ! Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 2:06 Samstag, 21.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites When you have time , no rush. From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:55:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites I'm an "Ify" as my work load is killing me. Hard to even check this site. Love and light, From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:22 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites Hi Bill, Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner and hope 2012 brings you so much joy and fulfillment in your life! You are a wonderful person and addition to this group. I don't know of any conference coming up but maybe we could plan one for February again. I think it would be good to do that. If anyone wants to be involved in a phone conference we should do it. I know Aggi and Cecilia can't participate from Europe, nor Kaz. Let me know or Aandraya, Bill or whoever wants to participate in a phone conference which is free. We had a phone conference several months ago which was wonderful. Aandraya had set it up, but it was so good to hear their voices. From: " Doe" <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:06:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mitesHi How are you , Good I hope . An conferences coming up ? I just tried some more of my menthol crystals , I picked up some bug somewhere & came home & got bit . I am attemting aggis tip of using the dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent as a dusting powder , then leave it for a day while I don't use the room becouse it is dangerous to breethe says the msds ( Materila safety data sheet ) . Well I hope it works , it sure works like a miracle in my boots if I ever get a bug in them, 1/2 cup in each boot , hold breath , shake boots & clap out powder & wear , instantly bugless for weeks & weeks , unless I pick up new ones somewhere. . I put 1 tesp menthol crytals in a coffe warmer & then put it in a gabage can on top of all my desk items & laptop , powdered with dry Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent . I turned it on & waited 30 mins , then opened the lid , sniffed ....woa... ! Never again will I skiff thet stuff , I didn't think it had worked coause I had the lid on the rubbernaid can. We'll 2 hrs later I peeked in & it smeeled real real strong , any living creature woruld ber freaking out thet was in the can . & also it made feather like crystals all over the top items in the can , very cool .. I wonder if it kills bugs or olnly makes them run for dear life & thus straight in to the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent ... I wish I had a tes bug I could see. . , but it is winter here. No insects .. I am going to get some sugar & put it on the floor to draw some ants for a menthol test . . Have you learned any tips , let me know of anything you learn .. Please .. God bless you , Bill (`'.(`'.').' .').') (`'.(`'.HAPPY .').') (`'.(`'.New .').') (`'.(`'.Year ! .').') :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. With Jesus In the beauties of holiness :*-::-*:..:*-::-*:... ------------------------------On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 12:54 AM EST Goldstein@... wrote:>I had those lines too. >>> >> Cheyletiella mites >> > > >> > > >> > > Â >> > > Hi, >> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted >> > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed >> > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some >> > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy >> > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some >> > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did >> > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a >> > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the >> > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting >> > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats >> > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've >> > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is >> > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. >> > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. >> > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live >> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and >> > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid >> > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists >> > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were >> > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking >> > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and >> > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many >> > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have >> > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about >> > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My >> > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him >> > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to >> > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the >> > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what >> > little I took and on me also. Have you tried >> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm >> > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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