Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Hi miteymaid Soaking each & everything with 1 cup borax & 3 cup eposm salts & 1 gallon of warm water stops the bug . It must be repeated every 2-3 days for a 30 day period to stop the cycle of hatch & breeding . A tri-jet fogger works wonders for this : I open all drawers & cubourds pitch unnessasary things , fill the tri-jet , plug it into a lamp timer set for 15 miins , close the door & leave for 2 hrs the room fogs so thick you can't see 3 ft ,then return & the room is bugless bliss....... openthe windows & dry it out Repeat: For 30 days . I soak in 1 cup borax per bath & 1/8 cup dawn to drown the smimmers. Soakthe car interior with 1 cup borax & 1 cup spic & span per gal of hot watr to melt the borax , wet vac out & dry with a hair dryer for 24-36 hrs . Repeat weekly & use baking soda as a dust to stop baby hatchers , it is a chore .. But is works . for bad spots I used http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html The mix: 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 16 oz peroxide (3%) 32 oz water. mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no fizz or bruning from this mix & it is cheap If they are deep ones I use 8tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster 8 oz peroxide (3%) 8 oz water. apply & leave on till next shower also switching up on soaking ingredients for the skin keeps them from getting used to the chemical. Arm & Hammer POWDERED ! Laundry Detergent . 1 cup in the bath & soak for 30 mins, weekly works wonders. Persistence will overcome this bug , it will die , kill it . If belongings are too much to clean , get rid of it or move, to a nice clan new house , practice for a while where you are so you can learn how to kill it. It dosent take that long. To do it Buy borax & epsom & wall timer for lamps 1 hr order tri-jet 1 hr trow out junk & clear closets of clutter 3 hrs. fill tri-jet & turn on 20 mins , Leave & go excercise . For 2 hrs , outside . Apply the peroxide mix when ever you feel a bits , I don't scratch I apply & it stops in 30 seconds - 20 mins , don't let the bug get a hold . Kill it .its abug it will die. Cedarcide was effective for a few people , but is very expensive . Bleach is not very effective. , lysol works ok , but is smells , maybe use it tin the am when you are going to leave & not have to breathe it . Borax has no smell & also Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent is almsot scentless & has cured many people , if is dosent use it heavier & more eposm salts in wter , it dries to a glaze on top of the bug & locks it into its crust , all this washes right off a week later . Windex kills bugs very well also , change up on the weapons , keep things dry I use 2 tbls cococnut oil in a bathtub & it hs stopped the crawinng after a lot of bora x baths & I never felt crawlin again it has been 2 years now . The cococnut oil & water makes a shield onthe skin , it is not 100 perc , but it helps like a miracle . HE Annoints my head with oil and my cup runneth over . I still get bit once in a while but I apply the peroxide mix instantley & it dies . God bless you , Bill ------------------------------On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 7:51 PM EST miteymaid wrote:>Hi,>I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Sorry to hear about your situation.Birdmites die in over 70 degrees C but I don´t know about cheyletiella mites if that is what you have. Probably a week won´t be enoug if you have had it that long.Hope you succeed.Cecilia From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:51 AM Subject: Cheyletiella mites Hi, I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Thank you guys for the info. Doe, where would I get a trifogger, order it through Amazon? I have a studio apartment but the galley kitchen and bathroom are separate, railroad style with a window at one nee and the door at the other so if I set off the fogger I would only hit one room at a time. Leaving the borax in the air might not be so healthful to breathe? I tried using menthol crystals I put out on hot plates and when I came back two hours later I could barely breathe, opened the window and left again. Came back and those things were popping all over the floor. Vacuumed them up but they were still in bed with me. I actually left my home this summer and everything I owned to get away, but no luck. The exterminator from this new building thought I was crazy and wouldn't help. Still feel chemicals in my throat from the menthol or maybe all the ammonia I use in my clothes. >Hi,>I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and > Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and > I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I tried in my old apartment to get heat treated but couldn't get an exterminator to do it. They said they couldn't guarantee success ifbthey couldn't even see thenthing. I wouldbhave had to use electric heaters which don't get as hot as propane, which you can't use in an apartment, too dangerous. Have to get it up to near 170 degrees and maybe repeat several times. I also agree that a week might be not long enough to get them off me or get rid of them since I seem to be so infested. Sorry to hear about your husband, could cooler heads and discussion help? Ellen > > Sorry to hear about your situation. > Birdmites die in over 70 degrees C but I don´t know about cheyletiella mites if that is what you have. Probably a week won´t be enoug if you have had it that long. > Hope you succeed. > Cecilia > > > ________________________________ > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> > bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:51 AM > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > >  > Hi, > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hi Ellen, Please do yourself a favour and don't waste any money on pest controllers or heat treatments. I as many others here, have wasted 1 1/2 years just to treat the environment. It is so hard to believe, that the issue is in our bodies... this is why we do not transmit them to other people... I never did ! I have started off with an anti-fungal 3 months ago and the bugs disappeared gradually. I am now on antibiotics and am 99.9 % better !! For cleaning and washing I am using Lysol. Also, isopropyl alcohol 70% as a spot-on spray killed every mite on my skin. Good luck to you ! Aggi Von: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 17:28 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Cheyletiella mites I tried in my old apartment to get heat treated but couldn't get an exterminator to do it. They said they couldn't guarantee success ifbthey couldn't even see thenthing. I wouldbhave had to use electric heaters which don't get as hot as propane, which you can't use in an apartment, too dangerous. Have to get it up to near 170 degrees and maybe repeat several times. I also agree that a week might be not long enough to get them off me or get rid of them since I seem to be so infested. Sorry to hear about your husband, could cooler heads and discussion help? Ellen>> Sorry to hear about your situation.> Birdmites die in over 70 degrees C but I don´t know about cheyletiella mites if that is what you have. Probably a week won´t be enoug if you have had it that long.> Hope you succeed.> Cecilia> > > ________________________________> From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>> bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:51 AM> Subject: Cheyletiella mites> > >  > Hi,> I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live> with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried> saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Consider starting to do Doxycycline as well as treating your apartment. Here is one of Zoe's last posts regarding the extensive treatment she and her husband did and it is well worth copying some or all of it. They got rid of what they had going in a large home.From Zoe:Hi All,I as positive now that we got an infection from mite bites which caused mites every where to be attracted to us: crawling mites and biting mites too.Is that what MORGELLONS is???After our 2 1/2 year mite-mare we are now well again and have our lives back. I still am still EXTREMELY traumatized by the experience. I would like to go see a therapist for PTS, but I fear the therapist would just assume I had 'delusions of parasitosis' since not many people know of this disease which is transmitted by certain biting mites which carry the pathogen. In fact, I think that I may be one of the only people to know of this disease... along with a few others on this website who have had a similar experience. Fortunately most people who are infested by bird mites just eradicate the mites from their environment and never get any pathogen from the mites at all and therefore don't become a host for biting mites everywhere.We will never know if it was just the passage of time that allowed us a fight whatever disease was attracting mites everywhere to us or if it was the 3 months of doxycycline 3 times per day , alternated with 3 months of Bactrm DS 2 times per day.We no longer avoid places and things and are using the stuff from our garage again... just cleaning it as well as we can.However, I went to a movie last week at a theatre that used to cause me to itch and squirm in my seat as I tried to focus on the movie. I felt a tiny bit of crawling sensation during the movie, but got NO bites and and the crawling stopped completely when I left the theatre. That is the only place I have had any symptoms at all out of the 100's of places that did cause crawling and bites when I was infected.There are certain places in the hospital that I work that I've not been in for the past 6 months, which used to cause me irritation and bites. So I don't know about how those places would affect me now. And I have not been in a Prius car in about 6 months as we sold it... which was the other place I got bit the most. The other cars are fine, our home is fine, our clothes are fine, my office at work is fine, museums are fine. I am so relieved and I'm trying to get my life back and move on.It is difficult for me to get over the feeling of trauma from living with FEAR for so long. Perhaps on some level I'm still in fear that the symptoms and bites will return again.I know I could not handle it if the biting returned. It is a thought too overwhelming to contemplate,MY ADVICE: Get on antibiotics early on, in large doses and stay on them until you are positive the biting and symptoms will not return when you go off of them. I know that the symptoms stopped for Rita and Tom after ~2 1/2 years so maybe the disease only lasts a certain amount of time as your body fights it. They did not take antibiotics at all. So who knows...In the final stages of our fight against the disease, topical benzyl peroxide cream helped kill any lingering organisms in or on our skin. SO I suggest using it liberally on any irritated shin as needed.We also use white vinegar alternated with hydrogen peroxide to kill off the most difficult organisms from lesions that seemed to be impossible to get rid of any other way.Good luck and BEST WISHES to all!From: "miteymaid" <miteymaid@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:28:09 AMSubject: Re: Cheyletiella mitesI tried in my old apartment to get heat treated but couldn't get an exterminator to do it. They said they couldn't guarantee success ifbthey couldn't even see thenthing. I wouldbhave had to use electric heaters which don't get as hot as propane, which you can't use in an apartment, too dangerous. Have to get it up to near 170 degrees and maybe repeat several times. I also agree that a week might be not long enough to get them off me or get rid of them since I seem to be so infested. Sorry to hear about your husband, could cooler heads and discussion help? Ellen>> Sorry to hear about your situation.> Birdmites die in over 70 degrees C but I don´t know about cheyletiella mites if that is what you have. Probably a week won´t be enoug if you have had it that long.> Hope you succeed.> Cecilia> > > ________________________________> From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>> bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:51 AM> Subject: Cheyletiella mites> > >  > Hi,> I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live> with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried> saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I couldn't use the ammonia/borax either. I tasted chemicals in my mouth non-stop and I felt sick/dizzy from the smell. I ended up using fragrance free a & h powdered detergent and baking soda or washing soda in the mix. Sprinkling baking do's On Dec 29, 2011 5:14 AM, " Cecilia Borg " <ceciliaborg@...> wrote: Sorry to hear about your situation.Birdmites die in over 70 degrees C but I don´t know about cheyletiella mites if that is what you have. Probably a week won´t be enoug if you have had it that long. Hope you succeed.Cecilia From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:51 AM Subject: Cheyletiella mites Hi,I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I t... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hi ElissaI noticed you are using washing soda in your washing - is that the soda crystals? I've been using ammonia, but it's getting expensive - soda crystals are a lot cheaper.Kaz x From: Elissa <elissarachel@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Cheyletiella mites I couldn't use the ammonia/borax either. I tasted chemicals in my mouth non-stop and I felt sick/dizzy from the smell. I ended up using fragrance free a & h powdered detergent and baking soda or washing soda in the mix. Sprinkling baking do's On Dec 29, 2011 5:14 AM, "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...> wrote: Sorry to hear about your situation.Birdmites die in over 70 degrees C but I don´t know about cheyletiella mites if that is what you have. Probably a week won´t be enoug if you have had it that long. Hope you succeed.Cecilia From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:51 AM Subject: Cheyletiella mites Hi,I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I t... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Not exactly sure...it is called arm & hammer washing soda. Found it in the supermarket in the laundry detergent aisle. I know baking soda is called bicarbonate of soda (or something like that in Europe). It is similar to that...baking soda worked in my laundry as well. Definitely more affordable options!!! On Dec 29, 2011 1:26 PM, " Kaz " <kazk1@...> wrote: Hi ElissaI noticed you are using washing soda in your washing - is that the soda crystals? I've been using ammonia, but it's getting expensive - soda crystals are a lot cheaper. Kaz x From: Elissa <elissarachel@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Cheyletiella mites I couldn't use the ammonia/borax either. I tasted chemicals in my mouth non-stop and I felt sick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Thanks ElissaI will try soda crystals tomorrow with my usual washing powder and see what happens - I'm not sure we have arm & hammer products here in the UK (apart from toothpaste!)Kaz x From: Elissa <elissarachel@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:33 PM Subject: Re: Cheyletiella mites Not exactly sure...it is called arm & hammer washing soda. Found it in the supermarket in the laundry detergent aisle. I know baking soda is called bicarbonate of soda (or something like that in Europe). It is similar to that...baking soda worked in my laundry as well. Definitely more affordable options!!! On Dec 29, 2011 1:26 PM, "Kaz" <kazk1@...> wrote: Hi ElissaI noticed you are using washing soda in your washing - is that the soda crystals? I've been using ammonia, but it's getting expensive - soda crystals are a lot cheaper. Kaz x From: Elissa <elissarachel@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Cheyletiella mites I couldn't use the ammonia/borax either. I tasted chemicals in my mouth non-stop and I felt sick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hi, Miteymaid, I threw my fogger out. The cedarcide wasn't enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infectious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something to ponder about. A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: It's amazing all the awful stuff a bird's nest contains. I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothing than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in my hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my feet. I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my visist. He can't deny my specimens. Love and light, From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PMSubject: Cheyletiella mites Hi,I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Kaz, It's called Arm and Hammer Super Soda Wash. I live by it and bath in it to detox. Love and light, From: Kaz <kazk1@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:53 PMSubject: Re: Cheyletiella mites Thanks Elissa I will try soda crystals tomorrow with my usual washing powder and see what happens - I'm not sure we have arm & hammer products here in the UK (apart from toothpaste!) Kaz x From: Elissa <elissarachel@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:33 PMSubject: Re: Cheyletiella mites Not exactly sure...it is called arm & hammer washing soda. Found it in the supermarket in the laundry detergent aisle. I know baking soda is called bicarbonate of soda (or something like that in Europe). It is similar to that...baking soda worked in my laundry as well. Definitely more affordable options!!! On Dec 29, 2011 1:26 PM, "Kaz" <kazk1@...> wrote: Hi Elissa I noticed you are using washing soda in your washing - is that the soda crystals? I've been using ammonia, but it's getting expensive - soda crystals are a lot cheaper. Kaz x From: Elissa <elissarachel@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:15 PMSubject: Re: Cheyletiella mites I couldn't use the ammonia/borax either. I tasted chemicals in my mouth non-stop and I felt sick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 What do you mean those things were popping all over the floor? The menthol crystals are very strong but they work, you can't be in the space when you're burning them.AandrayaOn Dec 29, 2011, at 10:05 AM, miteymaid <miteymaid@...> wrote: Thank you guys for the info. Doe, where would I get a trifogger, order it through Amazon? I have a studio apartment but the galley kitchen and bathroom are separate, railroad style with a window at one nee and the door at the other so if I set off the fogger I would only hit one room at a time. Leaving the borax in the air might not be so healthful to breathe? I tried using menthol crystals I put out on hot plates and when I came back two hours later I could barely breathe, opened the window and left again. Came back and those things were popping all over the floor. Vacuumed them up but they were still in bed with me. I actually left my home this summer and everything I owned to get away, but no luck. The exterminator from this new building thought I was crazy and wouldn't help. Still feel chemicals in my throat from the menthol or maybe all the ammonia I use in my clothes. >Hi,>I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and > Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and > I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 -Please!!! Get an Igenix western blot Lyme test.AandrayaOn Dec 29, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote: Hi, Miteymaid, I threw my fogger out. The cedarcide wasn't enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infectious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something to ponder about. A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: It's amazing all the awful stuff a bird's nest contains. I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothing than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in my hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my feet. I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my visist. He can't deny my specimens. Love and light, From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PMSubject: Cheyletiella mites Hi,I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Do you find that's enough to kill them. They are very tenacious. I wash some of my stuff in my small apartment machine but when I dry everything exhausts back into the room. I have to go to the laundry mat nearly everyday to wash my comforter and pillow, although I've bought thin, cheap ones now and I have my pillow in a zip vinyl. Ellen > > ** > > > Sorry to hear about your situation. > Birdmites die in over 70 degrees C but I don´t know about cheyletiella > mites if that is what you have. Probably a week won´t be enoug if you have > had it that long. > Hope you succeed. > Cecilia > > ------------------------------ > *From:* miteymaid <miteymaid@...> > *To:* bird mites > *Sent:* Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:51 AM > *Subject:* Cheyletiella mites > > > > Hi, > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens > with fleas. First I t... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I don't know why I can never get anything I send into entomologists id'd as anything but debris. After I had sprayed my mattress with sterifab I saw all these tiny black specs, sent them in and was told they were nothing. Had my grandson's microscope for awhile and thought I saw a bloody mite once but lost it and a cocoon of sorts and maybe larva. Threw out everything when I moved. You could see your stuff visually? The reason I'd like an I.d. Is that I still think I get even more infested from my daughter's home and I would know for sure whether to avoid her place or not as it is very hard to say no to your child. There was that woman, , of skin mites who swore for cedarcide, but she charges for her advice. On bedbugger.com where I first started research they said it was the silica doing the knockdown, not the cedar and you could call the stuff siliconcide but that wouldn't sound as good. Ellen > > Hi, Miteymaid, >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infectious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something to ponder about.  > A loose theory " by me " at this point based on recent observations: >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothing than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in my hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my visist. He can't deny my specimens. > Love and light, > > > > ________________________________ > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> > bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > >  > Hi, > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Ellen-The black specks are not bugs, they are a kind of fungus. The cocoon lint balls are very common with many of us, they move if you tap them. Never figured out what was wrapping itself in clothing fibers. What health symptoms do you have? Any sores? Crawling sensations? Cognitive issues?Aa On Dec 29, 2011, at 3:29 PM, miteymaid <miteymaid@...> wrote: I don't know why I can never get anything I send into entomologists id'd as anything but debris. After I had sprayed my mattress with sterifab I saw all these tiny black specs, sent them in and was told they were nothing. Had my grandson's microscope for awhile and thought I saw a bloody mite once but lost it and a cocoon of sorts and maybe larva. Threw out everything when I moved. You could see your stuff visually? The reason I'd like an I.d. Is that I still think I get even more infested from my daughter's home and I would know for sure whether to avoid her place or not as it is very hard to say no to your child. There was that woman, , of skin mites who swore for cedarcide, but she charges for her advice. On bedbugger.com where I first started research they said it was the silica doing the knockdown, not the cedar and you could call the stuff siliconcide but that wouldn't sound as good. Ellen > > Hi, Miteymaid, >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infectious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something to ponder about.  > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothing than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in my hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my visist. He can't deny my specimens. > Love and light, > > > > ________________________________ > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> > bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > >  > Hi, > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hi , All fogger fumes & mentol vapors are to be treated like a roach bomb or flea bomb . Like you are fumigating , & never ever breathe any of the poisons . . When I return home after fumigating I hold my breath & run in & open a few window to make a cross ventilation, then I run out with out breathing . Wait 1 hr & then turn on the fan in the window to totaly air out all chemicals . When i1st tried I too made the mistake of not hoding my breath like a swimmer when I went in to open windows & air out the house . I too breathed in some poison .... Nasty . I never did it again .. Foggers work though , wwww.cefarcide.com has them the cheapest I could find & w/ a 5 year warrenty . They are a work horse & save 100's of housr spraying cause you just fill it , plug in to lamp timer set to 15 mins ( sold at dollar stores) leave come back in open windows & leave & let it air. Kills bugs, repeat 3 days later God bless you , Bill ------------------------------On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 2:51 PM EST Aandraya wrote:>What do you mean those things were popping all over the floor? The menthol crystals are very strong but they work, you can't be in the space when you're burning them.>>Aandraya>>>>On Dec 29, 2011, at 10:05 AM, miteymaid <miteymaid@...> wrote:>>> >> Thank you guys for the info. Doe, where would I get a trifogger, order it through Amazon? I have a studio apartment but the galley kitchen and bathroom are separate, railroad style with a window at one nee and the door at the other so if I set off the fogger I would only hit one room at a time. Leaving the borax in the air might not be so healthful to breathe? I tried using menthol crystals I put out on hot plates and when I came back two hours later I could barely breathe, opened the window and left again. Came back and those things were popping all over the floor. Vacuumed them up but they were still in bed with me. I actually left my home this summer and everything I owned to get away, but no luck. The exterminator from this new building thought I was crazy and wouldn't help. Still feel chemicals in my throat from the menthol or maybe all the ammonia I use in my clothes.>> >Hi,>I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and>> > Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and>> > I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.>>> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hi Kaz,Yes washing soda & soda crystals are the same thing.....sodium carbonate.KrysOn 29 December 2011 12:33, Elissa <elissarachel@...> wrote: Not exactly sure...it is called arm & hammer washing soda. Found it in the supermarket in the laundry detergent aisle. I know baking soda is called bicarbonate of soda (or something like that in Europe). It is similar to that...baking soda worked in my laundry as well. Definitely more affordable options!!! On Dec 29, 2011 1:26 PM, " Kaz " <kazk1@...> wrote: Hi ElissaI noticed you are using washing soda in your washing - is that the soda crystals? I've been using ammonia, but it's getting expensive - soda crystals are a lot cheaper. Kaz x From: Elissa <elissarachel@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Cheyletiella mites I couldn't use the ammonia/borax either. I tasted chemicals in my mouth non-stop and I felt sick... -- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hi, Ellen!|We had mites and black specks but never got them id:d. We had bites that were id:d as mite-bites though from a derm.Hope you find a sample, I can understand it would be easier to know for sure what kind of mite it is.Take care!|Cecilia From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:29 PM Subject: Re: Cheyletiella mites I don't know why I can never get anything I send into entomologists id'd as anything but debris. After I had sprayed my mattress with sterifab I saw all these tiny black specs, sent them in and was told they were nothing. Had my grandson's microscope for awhile and thought I saw a bloody mite once but lost it and a cocoon of sorts and maybe larva. Threw out everything when I moved. You could see your stuff visually? The reason I'd like an I.d. Is that I still think I get even more infested from my daughter's home and I would know for sure whether to avoid her place or not as it is very hard to say no to your child. There was that woman, , of skin mites who swore for cedarcide, but she charges for her advice. On bedbugger.com where I first started research they said it was the silica doing the knockdown, not the cedar and you could call the stuff siliconcide but that wouldn't sound as good. Ellen > > Hi, Miteymaid, >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infectious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something to ponder about.  > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations: >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothing than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in my hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my visist. He can't deny my specimens. > Love and light, > > > > ________________________________ > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> > bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > >  > Hi, > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Hi Aandraya, I only have bites and some itching. At night it's especially bad in bed which is where they seem to attack me most. I have tiny whitish lines and bumps under my skin, I notice most on my hands and arms. I can tell they're in my nose, when I wake in the morning and blow little red dots come out. Several years ago I thought I saw a mite under the microscope but crushed iy and it turned red. Thought I saw a cocoon like thing but never was able to get any I'd, was told it was all debrie and gave up. Found it was very difficult to look into the microscope to examine lint paper I had rolled on bed. No longer have microscope but thought that kind with the big lens would be best if started again. Looked under 200x. When I shower feel crawling in my hair and biting on my feet at night is really painful. Wonder if nerves are closer to the surface there. Have been going to bed with some menthol chrystals in a sock. At infectious disease doctors tested one band positive for lyme but was told needed 5 bands, one just showed been exposed. Very difficult to get them out of clothes and comforter. Know they're always around but much of the time, during the day they don't bother me. Ellen > > > > > > Hi, Miteymaid, > > >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infec > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something t > > o ponder about.  > > > A loose theory " by me " at this point based on recent observations: > > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothin > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in m > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my > > visist. He can't deny my specimens. > > > Love and light, > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> > > > bird mites > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > > > > > > > >  > > > Hi, > > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried > > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 The whitish lines do sound more like scabies to me. Scabies are digging "tunnels" under the skin. Von: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 15:57 Freitag, 30.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Cheyletiella mites Hi Aandraya,I only have bites and some itching. At night it's especially bad in bed which is where they seem to attack me most. I have tiny whitish lines and bumps under my skin, I notice most on my hands and arms. I can tell they're in my nose, when I wake in the morning and blow little red dots come out. Several years ago I thought I saw a mite under the microscope but crushed iy and it turned red. Thought I saw a cocoon like thing but never was able to get any I'd, was told it was all debrie and gave up. Found it was very difficult to look into the microscope to examine lint paper I had rolled on bed. No longer have microscope but thought that kind with the big lens would be best if started again. Looked under 200x. When I shower feel crawling in my hair and biting on my feet at night is really painful. Wonder if nerves are closer to the surface there. Have been going to bed with some menthol chrystals in a sock. At infectious disease doctors tested one band positive for lyme but was told needed 5 bands, one just showed been exposed. Very difficult to get them out of clothes and comforter. Know they're always around but much of the time, during the day they don't bother me.Ellen> > >> > > Hi, Miteymaid,> > >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infec > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something t > > o ponder about. Â> > > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations:> > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothin > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in m > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my > > visist. He can't deny my specimens.> > > Love and light,> > > > > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@>> > > bird mites > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM> > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Hi,> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 http://www.medicinenet.com/scabies_pictures_slideshow/article.htm Von: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 16:03 Freitag, 30.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Re: Cheyletiella mites The whitish lines do sound more like scabies to me. Scabies are digging "tunnels" under the skin. Von: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 15:57 Freitag, 30.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Cheyletiella mites Hi Aandraya,I only have bites and some itching. At night it's especially bad in bed which is where they seem to attack me most. I have tiny whitish lines and bumps under my skin, I notice most on my hands and arms. I can tell they're in my nose, when I wake in the morning and blow little red dots come out. Several years ago I thought I saw a mite under the microscope but crushed iy and it turned red. Thought I saw a cocoon like thing but never was able to get any I'd, was told it was all debrie and gave up. Found it was very difficult to look into the microscope to examine lint paper I had rolled on bed. No longer have microscope but thought that kind with the big lens would be best if started again. Looked under 200x. When I shower feel crawling in my hair and biting on my feet at night is really painful. Wonder if nerves are closer to the surface there. Have been going to bed with some menthol chrystals in a sock. At infectious disease doctors tested one band positive for lyme but was told needed 5 bands, one just showed been exposed. Very difficult to get them out of clothes and comforter. Know they're always around but much of the time, during the day they don't bother me.Ellen> > >> > > Hi, Miteymaid,> > >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infec > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something t > > o ponder about. Â> > > A loose theory "by me" at this point based on recent observations:> > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothin > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in m > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my > > visist. He can't deny my specimens.> > > Love and light,> > > > > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@>> > > bird mites > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM> > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites> > >> > >> > > Â> > > Hi,> > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live> > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried> > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Hi, I'm wondering how I could hit all three rooms that way at one time. Doesn't the borax stay in the air or on the floor and get into your lungs? At this point I'm afraid I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't but using all this stuff if not done properly could be really toxic too. I found that out when I came back to soon with the menthol crystals.I've used very small amounts of menthol to keep them away at night but this time I used a lot to try and clear the place. When I came back I could feel the mites were very agitated, they were very active, that's what I meant Aandraya. I vacuumed and it was a little better but I think they also just calmed down after awhile. Also I only have windows at one end of the apartment. The kitchen and bathroom have vents in the ceiling.Just wondering how it would work here. Ellen >Hi,>I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. I tried spraying with Nylar and > Onslaught didn't seem to help. Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the Lysol. It's expensive and > I'm afraid They would still be in what little I took and on me also. Have you tried saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help.>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I don't think it's scabies because they're very tiny and the worst part is that I feel the mites biting me when I get into bed. Scabies would be just on my skin but I'm really aware of these things in my environment. I think the white lines and bumps could be them either laying eggs or living under my skin which is why aside from getting them out of my environment I need to find something that will kill them on me.How did you get them out of your stuff? I remember reading how you bought the predatory mites for your car and that worked. I keep thinking Ivermectin but not sure. Cheyletiella mites can cause walking dandruff in cats. My daunter's cats have some dandruff and I managed tonged one to a dermatological vet but she took a cursory tape and didn't see anything. However testing doesn't turn them up 58percent of the time anyway and my daughter was not in a position to treat the cats and the house as they weren't even being bothered. Also to me too, that clip from the show looked like it was going to be more exploitive than informative. Ellen > > > > > > > > Hi, Miteymaid, > > > >     I threw my fogger out.  The cedarcide wasn't > > > enough. I get better results by spraying with Lysol. The doxy is > > > helping but I think my visit to the dr. will give us all information > > > we need. He is an exotic parasite specialist as well has an Infec > > > tious Disease Dr. My recent collection should give him something t > > > o ponder about.  > > > > A loose theory " by me " at this point based on recent observations: > > > >  It's amazing all the awful  stuff a bird's nest contains. > > > I think the fungal/bacterial/worm (in lint form) infected my clothin > > > g than me. I noticed tickling in my ear first, then movement in m > > > y hair. Got little black dots and mites out with sticky roller. > > > Then lesions came as this started to move down my body finally to my > > > feet.  I think the lint balls contain: fungus, bacteria, > > > Onchocerciasis worms, and fungal beetles. In my case, the herpes 1 > > > virus is in 98% of the population and loves to express itself when > > > the immunization system is low. Who knows. I'll report after my > > > visist. He can't deny my specimens. > > > > Love and light, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: miteymaid <miteymaid@> > > > > bird mites > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM > > > > Subject: Cheyletiella mites > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > Hi, > > > > I've had these mites for 4 years ever since my daughter adopted > > > kittens with fleas. First I thought that was what I had and sprayed > > > my apartment ,then bedbugs, wasn't't that either. Mainly had some > > > bites at night. Finally gave up and though sometimes I was itchy > > > when I put something on and definitely felt them around and had some > > > bites on my back really wasn't too bad and coexisted. Oct. 2010 did > > > my son-in-law a favor and bought his old computer.Started getting a > > > lot itchier at night and felt more bites in bed and around the > > > computer.Gave it back to him but too late. Been getting > > > progressively worse no matter what I do. Daughter's family and cats > > > are asymptomatic. It's not bad for me during the day except I've > > > washing everything everyday in ammonia, borax and soap which is > > > beginning to make me I'll, all the fumes from those harsh chemicals. > > > I tried spraying with Nylar and Onslaught didn't seem to help. > > > Mainly get attacked at night,daughter doesn't live > > > > with me but babysit.I know they're in my apartment, millions and > > > probably by now living on or beneath my skin. Can't seem to get rid > > > ofthem. Have never been able to get an I'd and doctors,entomologists > > > an exterminators are clueless. A number of times when they were > > > really agitated saw a swarm of tiny black dots.you keep talking > > > about internals but I can't even seem to deal with the externals and > > > then I wouldn't know which internals to use. Do you know if many > > > people have benefited fogging with Cedarcide? I see you would have > > > to do it a lot ,hunt them down with the stuff. And what about > > > Ivermectin? I hate to use stuff without knowing what I'm doing. My > > > doctor might prescribe it but only knew about it when I told him > > > which wasn't very reassuring. My friend thinks I should go south to > > > the beach for a week and he would spray everyday for me with the > > > Lysol. It's expensive and I'm afraid They would still be in what > > > little I took and on me also. Have you tried > > > > saunas or spas? I would be afraid of infecting others. Anyway, I'm > > > afraid this is a rather negative post. Thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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