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Hi Kaz!I really apreciate that you tell me this. To shout in someones ear when it´s a child is no good, and to twist someones arm is much worse, so I really see your point.I will not accept his behavior and if he doesn´t leave on his own now, I will leave if it ever happens something like that again.Thanks again for your advice.Cecilia From: Kaz <kazk1@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi CeciliaI agree with Kajay.. I know what it's like to backtrack because I was scared to listen to my inner voice - I have been in several relationships that were abusive - I know my children suffered and I have tried to make it up to them since - my ex, who I was with for 9 years shouted in my eldest daughter's face a couple of times, and she was only about 11 years old ( not that any age is acceptable to do that) - we had our fights, but when he did that to her I knew instinctively that I had to get out of that relationship..Kaz x From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

The last part of what you said is your gut reaction--your instinct. The part about your being oversensitive sounds like you are backtracking, doubting that instinct in order to agree with him that his action was justified, WHICH YOU KNOW IT WAS NOT.Cecelia, above all, listen to that still small voice or, in some cases, that BIG inner voice that told you that any kind of abuse of children is forbidden.I'm glad you are here and not trying to think this through all in his shadow....Been there, done that!!!!kajay From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, !|THanks for your reply! It is so great to get some support. So, it happened to you too.. WHat did you do?I feel really confused and I don´t think he is willing to get any help; he think he is right and that I am oversensitive. To me ANY kind of abusing on children is forbidden no matter what, so my reaction was pretty hard...Love fromCecilia From:

"Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Cecilia,Wouldn't he be willing to go to some kind of counseling before he made such a decision?! Would he be willing to do something to try to save the relationship and improve things? You and your family have been through so much and stress does get to all of us. I am deeply saddened to hear about this and particularly his behavior. My 2nd husband became abusive towards my son when I was married to him. My daughter was from that relationship. I have no kids from my 3rd husband who has always been very kind.I don't know if there is anything we could do from here, but let us know what we can do to support you.Hugs, From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>To:

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:11:41 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..KRCecilia From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi Aggi,Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it called anything else?From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. detoxes A+

2. Removes biofilm on skin

3. Crawlies on skin die in water

4. Lesions heal

1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1. Fungus/mold

2. Bacteria

3. Virus

4. Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.

2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1. Sores/lesions start to heal

1. Must be repeated until completely healed

Red rash/bumps

1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.

2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2. After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time)

1. Wachereia

infection

2. Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1. Unsightly

2. Lightens hair

3. Stains clothing

1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off.

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".

2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2. Does not kill stuff in ears

1. disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2. Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.

1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain.

1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off.

1. No more problems with anything

1. Not very practical for work setting.

1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection.

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1. Removes infection

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.

1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.

2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

Clothing

1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

2. Kills

1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2. Eggs can get by.

May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

3. Iron clothing, undies and all

4. Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

4. Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3. Too hot can melt panties.

Keep Dryer Clean

1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1. To prevent clothing re infection.

1. Wash hands often.

1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

Mold

1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.

2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away.

1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

2. Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

1. Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

2. Keeps water from contributing to mold

1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

Towels/washcloths

1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones.

1. Prevents mold

2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems

Flip Flops and Shoes

1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.

2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed.

2. Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

Rugs

1. 30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

Fungus

1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2. Body Oil

Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano.

3. Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

1. Fungus and food cravings gone

2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body

1. Expensive!!!!!!!

2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

3. Does not kill critters

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PMSubject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

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Thanks for all your support Kajay!C From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

It might be time to check out the government agencies to see what help is available. There is also the Salvation Army, family shelters in the case of physical abuse, food banks, subsidized housing (anyone remember that ad, "Everybody needs a Yugo sometimes?") You don't have to say you are doing it. It will be hard, but what is the cost of staying? You might decide to do that, only you can decide. Sounds like a LOT of us here are praying for you. And prayer can accomplish amazing things.kajay From: Cecilia Borg

<ceciliaborg@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Elissa!|What I know he doesn´t come from an abusive family, but I´m not 100 percent sure.He has done similar things before, so I am really worried and I am pretty sure he will leave. BUt maby that is a good thing. BUt what about my smallest daughter that I have with him? Will he treat her bad also? It will be hard for me to manage economically on my own. I really appreciate your answer and that you care!Cecilia From: Elissa

<elissarachel@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Sorry to hear that Cecilia.

You're correct. That is not acceptable for any adult towards a child (or any other adult for that matter).

Maybe he doesn't understand what is appropriate discipline. did he come from an abusive family?

If he doesn't leave & it happens again (to any of you), I would definitely figure something out so you can get out of that situation.

Let me know if I can help in anyway.

On Dec 29, 2011 10:33 AM, "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, whe...

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Se...

Hi Aggi,Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it ...

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price ! Von: Benton <sarah...

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Dear Ce,

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it called anything else?

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. detoxes A+

2. Removes biofilm on skin

3. Crawlies on skin die in water

4. Lesions heal

1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1. Fungus/mold

2. Bacteria

3. Virus

4. Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.

2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1. Sores/lesions start to heal

1. Must be repeated until completely healed

Red rash/bumps

1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.

2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2. After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time)

1. Wachereia

infection

2. Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1. Unsightly

2. Lightens hair

3. Stains clothing

1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off.

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".

2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2. Does not kill stuff in ears

1. disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2. Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.

1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain.

1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off.

1. No more problems with anything

1. Not very practical for work setting.

1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection.

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1. Removes infection

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.

1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.

2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

Clothing

1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

2. Kills

1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2. Eggs can get by.

May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

3. Iron clothing, undies and all

4. Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

4. Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3. Too hot can melt panties.

Keep Dryer Clean

1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1. To prevent clothing re infection.

1. Wash hands often.

1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

Mold

1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.

2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away.

1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

2. Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

1. Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

2. Keeps water from contributing to mold

1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

Towels/washcloths

1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones.

1. Prevents mold

2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems

Flip Flops and Shoes

1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.

2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed.

2. Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

Rugs

1. 30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

Fungus

1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2. Body Oil

Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano.

3. Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

1. Fungus and food cravings gone

2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body

1. Expensive!!!!!!!

2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

3. Does not kill critters

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PMSubject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

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LOL, I know, you knew all that stuff already :-) From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:35 AM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Thanks for all your support Kajay!C From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

It might be time to check out the government agencies to see what help is available. There is also the Salvation Army, family shelters in the case of physical abuse, food banks, subsidized housing (anyone remember that ad, "Everybody needs a Yugo sometimes?") You don't have to say you are doing it. It will be hard, but what is the cost of staying? You might decide to do that, only you can decide. Sounds like a LOT of us here are praying for you. And prayer can accomplish amazing things.kajay From: Cecilia Borg

<ceciliaborg@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Elissa!|What I know he doesn´t come from an abusive family, but I´m not 100 percent sure.He has done similar things before, so I am really worried and I am pretty sure he will leave. BUt maby that is a good thing. BUt what about my smallest daughter that I have with him? Will he treat her bad also? It will be hard for me to manage economically on my own. I really appreciate your answer and that you care!Cecilia From: Elissa

<elissarachel@...> bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Sorry to hear that Cecilia.

You're correct. That is not acceptable for any adult towards a child (or any other adult for that matter).

Maybe he doesn't understand what is appropriate discipline. did he come from an abusive family?

If he doesn't leave & it happens again (to any of you), I would definitely figure something out so you can get out of that situation.

Let me know if I can help in anyway.

On Dec 29, 2011 10:33 AM, "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, whe...

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Se...

Hi Aggi,Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it ...

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price ! Von: Benton <sarah...

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Aggi!Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.Happy new year!||Cecilia From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> "bird mites "

<bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Ce,

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it called anything else?

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. detoxes A+

2. Removes biofilm on skin

3. Crawlies on skin die in water

4. Lesions heal

1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1. Fungus/mold

2. Bacteria

3. Virus

4. Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.

2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1. Sores/lesions start to heal

1. Must be repeated until completely healed

Red rash/bumps

1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.

2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2. After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time)

1. Wachereia

infection

2. Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1. Unsightly

2. Lightens hair

3. Stains clothing

1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off.

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".

2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2. Does not kill stuff in ears

1. disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2. Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.

1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain.

1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off.

1. No more problems with anything

1. Not very practical for work setting.

1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection.

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1. Removes infection

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.

1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.

2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

Clothing

1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

2. Kills

1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2. Eggs can get by.

May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

3. Iron clothing, undies and all

4. Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

4. Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3. Too hot can melt panties.

Keep Dryer Clean

1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1. To prevent clothing re infection.

1. Wash hands often.

1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

Mold

1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.

2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away.

1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

2. Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

1. Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

2. Keeps water from contributing to mold

1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

Towels/washcloths

1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones.

1. Prevents mold

2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems

Flip Flops and Shoes

1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.

2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed.

2. Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

Rugs

1. 30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

Fungus

1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2. Body Oil

Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano.

3. Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

1. Fungus and food cravings gone

2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body

1. Expensive!!!!!!!

2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

3. Does not kill critters

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PMSubject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

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Cecilia,It is nice that he has apologised. It still might be an idea to go to counselling together to help find a way to prevent a repeat occurrence the next time his temper gets frayed. Being aware that something was wrong when one is calm, & can think rationally, is not quite the same as being able to restrain oneself when ones temper is under pressure. 

All the best & happy new year.KrysOn 31 December 2011 12:06, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

 

Aggi!Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.

I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.Happy new year!||

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites "

<bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Dear Ce,

 

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Dear Cecilia,

 

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

 

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

 

Big hug,

Aggi

 

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back!  Hope you had a great time away.  I couldn't find doctoronline.com.  Is it called anything else?

From: " Aggi Assmann " <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid  Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills.  When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent.  They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product.  What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work!  Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .  

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply.  I said " no thank you. "  Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton " <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid  Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

 

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1.  detoxes A+

2.  Removes biofilm on skin

3.  Crawlies on skin  die in water

4.  Lesions heal

1. Initially " burns " until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1.  Fungus/mold

2.  Bacteria

3.  Virus

4.  Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to " scrub " skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1.  Removes " webbing " and crawlies on skin.

2.  Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1.  Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

 

 

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1.  Sores/lesions start to heal

1.  Must be repeated until completely healed

 

Red rash/bumps

1.  One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water.  (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2.  Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

 

 

3.  Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1.  Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear.  Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process.  Seems " stuff " rolls off with it.

 

2.  Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

 

3.  Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2.  After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off.  (Becomes less and less each time)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Wachereia 

      infection

2.  Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

 

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1.  Unsightly

2.  Lightens hair

3.  Stains clothing

1.  Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin.  Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. 

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1.  Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and " stuff " .

2.  Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1.  Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2.  Does not kill stuff in ears

1.  disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2.  Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water.  Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper.  Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 

1.  Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1.  Can hear skin ripping and pulling away.  No pain.

1.  Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution.   Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water.  Swish for a minute.  Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

 

1.  Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often.  Rub any " stuff " off.

1.  No more problems with anything

1.  Not very practical for work setting.

1.  Infection may be coming out through urine.  A fight to stop re infection.

 

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1.  Removes infection

 

 

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean.  1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.  

1.  Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 

2.  Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

 

Clothing

1.  Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

 

2.  Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

 

1.  Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

 

 

 

2.  Kills

1.  Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2.  Eggs can get by.

      May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1.  Black specks removed.  (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

 

3.  Iron clothing, undies and all

 

 

 

4.   Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3.  Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

 

4.  Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3.  Too hot can melt panties.

 

 

Keep Dryer Clean

1.  Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use.  Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1.  To prevent clothing re infection.

1.  Wash hands often.

1.  Dryers are warm and moist.  Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mold

1.  Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.  

 

2.  Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. 

 

1.  Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

 

2.  Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1.  Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

 

2.  Keeps water from contributing to mold

1.  Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

 

 

Towels/washcloths

1.  Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

 

2.  Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 

1.  Prevents mold

 

 

 

 

2.  Easier to disinfect and see any problems

 

 

 

Flip Flops and Shoes

1.  Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel.  Hang to dry on a door hook.

 

2.  Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1.  Kills bugs not bacteria.  Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. 

 

 

 

2.  Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

 

 

Rugs

1.  30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water.  ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1.  Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

 

 

 

Fungus

1.  Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2.  Body Oil

     Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils:  Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. 

 

3.  Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

 

1.  Fungus and food cravings gone

 

2.  Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Kills fungus in scalp and on body

 

1.  Expensive!!!!!!!

 

2.  Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Does not kill critters

 

 

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM

Subject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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For thethe record, with my ex, apologies were worth little, just a way to

deflect any real consequences. Each time I let it slide and tried to just get on

with my life, he would blindside me. I never saw it coming, and I certainly did

nothing to deserve it. I wanted things to be okay so badly that I got better and

better at rationalizing the abuses even as they escalated. I was like the frog

that, when tossed in boiling water, jumped out, but when put into tepid water

and heated slowly...

Kajay

------------------------------

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 1:06 PM EST Cecilia Borg wrote:

>Aggi!

>Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter

today, for what it is worth.

>I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it

happens.

>Happy new year!||

>Cecilia

>

>

>________________________________

> From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>

> " bird mites " <bird mites >

>Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM

>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

>

>

>Dear Ce,

>Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next

and you surely

>do not wish to find out.

>Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably

take him

>by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not

knowing what triggered

>his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened

repeatedly, it is probably the best

>going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

>Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

>And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help,

if ever possible.

>

>Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

>An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

>Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011

>Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

>

>Hi, Aggi!

>It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but

this was worse.

>I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

>BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting

and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving

as soon as he can and he says he will.

>Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

>Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

>All the best!

>Cecilia

>

>From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>

> " bird mites " <bird mites >

>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PM

>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

>

>Dear Cecilia,

>so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

>Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there

signs and

>symptoms before ?

>Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

>I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

>Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

>Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

>Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

>Big hug,

>Aggi

>

>Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

>An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

>Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011

>Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

>

>Hi, all!|

>I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and

cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another

father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful

and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing

it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he

did cause she did not obey him!'

>THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

>I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some

support..

>KR

>Cecilia

>

>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM

>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

>

>Hi Aggi,

>

>Welcome back!  Hope you had a great time away.  I couldn't find

doctoronline.com.  Is it called anything else?

>

> From: " Aggi Assmann " <aggi_assmann@...>To:

bird mites@...: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55

PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid  Protocol

>I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

>

>

>Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

>An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

>Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011

>Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

>

>Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills.  When they have a special, you

can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent.  They don't offer the discount to you

until you order from them initially.

>Love and light,

>

>

>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM

>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

>

>One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or

pushing any particular product.  What works for one, doesn't always do the job

for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work!  Thank

you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .  

>

>You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a

one month supply.  I said " no thank you. "  Aandraya suggested I try some other

avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

>

> From: " Benton " <sarahbenton48@...>To:

bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46

AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid  Protocol

>

>

>Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible?

>Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co

infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

>Issues coming from sores/lesions

>  2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to

go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1.  detoxes A+

>2.  Removes biofilm on skin

>3.  Crawlies on skin  die in water

>4.  Lesions heal 1. Initially " burns " until sores start to heal (worth it

>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1.  Fungus/mold

>2.  Bacteria

>3.  Virus

>4.  Skin Nematode

>Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to " scrub " skin with fingers

>(I buy by pound from

>Starwest Botanicals) 1.  Removes " webbing " and crawlies on skin.

>2.  Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1.  Only addresses what has made

it to the surface layer of the skin  

>  Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around

them 1.  Sores/lesions start to heal 1.  Must be repeated until completely

healed  

>Red rash/bumps 1.  One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water.  (I let the

pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water

before massaging into scalp and body.

>2.  Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

>3.  Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. 

Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear.  Dead infected skin rolls off

of area during process.  Seems " stuff " rolls off with it.

>2.  Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

>3.  Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming

>2.  After solution

>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls,

webbing, skin, etc. off.  (Becomes less and less each time)

>  1.  Wachereia 

>      infection

>2.  Onchocerciosis

>http://www.cdc.gov

>/parasites/onchocerciasis/

>health_professionals/index.html

>3.  Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

>  Benzyl Peroxide Gel

>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and

peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1.  Unsightly

>2.  Lightens hair

>3.  Stains clothing 1.  Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly

skin.  Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. 

>Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup

of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair

close to scalp) 1.  Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and

" stuff " .

>2.  Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin

layer 1.  Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and

makes you nauseated and sick feeling

>2.  Does not kill stuff in ears 1.  disinfectant killing bacteria on and just

below epidermis

>2.  Kills all critters on skin

>Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water.  Dissolve a piece of

Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper.  Apply to Q tip to soak

nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.  1.  Effected ear(s) dry out and

skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1.  Can hear skin ripping and pulling

away.  No pain. 1.  Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution.  

Dissuades critters from going in.

>Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water.  Swish for a minute.  Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.   1.  Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

>Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often.  Rub any

" stuff " off. 1.  No more problems with anything 1.  Not very practical for work

setting. 1.  Infection may be coming out through urine.  A fight to stop re

infection.

>  1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol

Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1.  Removes infection    

>Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean.  1 cup to

the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.   1.  Kills mite,

bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.  2.  Not too expensive if bought by

the gallon at Lowe's.  

>Clothing 1.  Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to

kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

>2.  Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

>  1.  Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

>2.  Kills 1.  Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous

carrying hot pot to washer

>2.  Eggs can get by.

>      May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1.  Black

specks removed.  (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs,

nematodes, and eggs.

>  3.  Iron clothing, undies and all

>4.   Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of

pockets) 3.  Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

>4.  Removes loosened eggs and fibers. 3.  Too hot can melt panties.  

>Keep Dryer Clean 1.  Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked

toweling after every use.  Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1.  To

prevent clothing re infection. 1.  Wash hands often. 1.  Dryers are warm and

moist.  Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

>Bath

>Mold 1.  Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as

you balance on the side of the bath after use.  

>2.  Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel

that can be thrown away. 

>1.  Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

>2.  Use a small squeegee

>to remove water from bottom of tub 1.  Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever

that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

>1.  Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

>2.  Keeps water from contributing to mold 1.  Make sure the ledge you sit on is

cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

>  1.  Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your

feet.

>1.  Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

>Towels/washcloths 1.  Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry

until washing

>2.  Buy thin, white, cheap ones.  1.  Prevents mold

>2.  Easier to disinfect and see any problems

>     

>Flip Flops and Shoes 1.  Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and

salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel.  Hang to dry on a door hook.

>2.  Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1.  Kills bugs

not bacteria.  Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. 

>2.  Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus    

>Rugs 1.  30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water.  ¼ of this mixture

mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1.  Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs    

>Fungus 1.  Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

>2.  Body Oil

>     Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following

essential oils:  Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon

Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. 

>3.  Cream

>Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone,

and a little A and D baby ointment.

>l

>  1.  Fungus and food cravings gone

>2.  Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

>3.  Kills fungus in scalp and on body

>  1.  Expensive!!!!!!!

>2.  Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

>3.  Does not kill critters  

>From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM

>Subject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

>

>What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the

attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

>

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Thanks Krys!|You´re definately right about that!I will try to make him go to counceling, but I guess it will be a no..Happy new year and thanks for caring.Cecilia From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Cecilia,It is nice that he has apologised. It still might be an idea to go to counselling together to help find a way to prevent a repeat occurrence the next time his temper gets frayed. Being aware that something was wrong when one is calm, & can think rationally, is not quite the same as being able to restrain oneself when ones temper is under pressure.

All the best & happy new year.KrysOn 31 December 2011 12:06, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Aggi!Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.

I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.Happy new year!||

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> "bird mites "

<bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Ce,

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it called anything else?

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. detoxes A+

2. Removes biofilm on skin

3. Crawlies on skin die in water

4. Lesions heal

1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1. Fungus/mold

2. Bacteria

3. Virus

4. Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.

2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1. Sores/lesions start to heal

1. Must be repeated until completely healed

Red rash/bumps

1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.

2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2. After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time)

1. Wachereia

infection

2. Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1. Unsightly

2. Lightens hair

3. Stains clothing

1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off.

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".

2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2. Does not kill stuff in ears

1. disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2. Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.

1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain.

1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off.

1. No more problems with anything

1. Not very practical for work setting.

1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection.

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1. Removes infection

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.

1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.

2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

Clothing

1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

2. Kills

1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2. Eggs can get by.

May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

3. Iron clothing, undies and all

4. Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

4. Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3. Too hot can melt panties.

Keep Dryer Clean

1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1. To prevent clothing re infection.

1. Wash hands often.

1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

Mold

1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.

2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away.

1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

2. Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

1. Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

2. Keeps water from contributing to mold

1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

Towels/washcloths

1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones.

1. Prevents mold

2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems

Flip Flops and Shoes

1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.

2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed.

2. Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

Rugs

1. 30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

Fungus

1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2. Body Oil

Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano.

3. Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

1. Fungus and food cravings gone

2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body

1. Expensive!!!!!!!

2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

3. Does not kill critters

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM

Subject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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On 1 January 2012 12:34, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Krys!|You´re definately right about that!

I will try to make him go to counceling, but I guess it will be a no..Happy new year and thanks for caring.Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:22 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Cecilia,It is nice that he has apologised. It still might be an idea to go to counselling together to help find a way to prevent a repeat occurrence the next time his temper gets frayed. Being aware that something was wrong when one is calm, & can think rationally, is not quite the same as being able to restrain oneself when ones temper is under pressure. 

All the best & happy new year.KrysOn 31 December 2011 12:06, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

 

Aggi!Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.

I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.Happy new year!||

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites "

<bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Dear Ce,

 

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Dear Cecilia,

 

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

 

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

 

Big hug,

Aggi

 

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back!  Hope you had a great time away.  I couldn't find doctoronline.com.  Is it called anything else?

From: " Aggi Assmann " <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid  Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills.  When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent.  They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product.  What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work!  Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .  

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply.  I said " no thank you. "  Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton " <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid  Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

 

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1.  detoxes A+

2.  Removes biofilm on skin

3.  Crawlies on skin  die in water

4.  Lesions heal

1. Initially " burns " until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1.  Fungus/mold

2.  Bacteria

3.  Virus

4.  Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to " scrub " skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1.  Removes " webbing " and crawlies on skin.

2.  Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1.  Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

 

 

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1.  Sores/lesions start to heal

1.  Must be repeated until completely healed

 

Red rash/bumps

1.  One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water.  (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2.  Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

 

 

3.  Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1.  Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear.  Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process.  Seems " stuff " rolls off with it.

 

2.  Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

 

3.  Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2.  After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off.  (Becomes less and less each time)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Wachereia 

      infection

2.  Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

 

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1.  Unsightly

2.  Lightens hair

3.  Stains clothing

1.  Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin.  Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. 

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1.  Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and " stuff " .

2.  Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1.  Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2.  Does not kill stuff in ears

1.  disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2.  Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water.  Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper.  Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 

1.  Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1.  Can hear skin ripping and pulling away.  No pain.

1.  Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution.   Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water.  Swish for a minute.  Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

 

1.  Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often.  Rub any " stuff " off.

1.  No more problems with anything

1.  Not very practical for work setting.

1.  Infection may be coming out through urine.  A fight to stop re infection.

 

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1.  Removes infection

 

 

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean.  1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.  

1.  Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 

2.  Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

 

Clothing

1.  Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

 

2.  Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

 

1.  Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

 

 

 

2.  Kills

1.  Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2.  Eggs can get by.

      May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1.  Black specks removed.  (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

 

3.  Iron clothing, undies and all

 

 

 

4.   Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3.  Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

 

4.  Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3.  Too hot can melt panties.

 

 

Keep Dryer Clean

1.  Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use.  Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1.  To prevent clothing re infection.

1.  Wash hands often.

1.  Dryers are warm and moist.  Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mold

1.  Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.  

 

2.  Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. 

 

1.  Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

 

2.  Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1.  Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

 

2.  Keeps water from contributing to mold

1.  Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

 

 

Towels/washcloths

1.  Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

 

2.  Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 

1.  Prevents mold

 

 

 

 

2.  Easier to disinfect and see any problems

 

 

 

Flip Flops and Shoes

1.  Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel.  Hang to dry on a door hook.

 

2.  Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1.  Kills bugs not bacteria.  Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. 

 

 

 

2.  Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

 

 

Rugs

1.  30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water.  ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1.  Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

 

 

 

Fungus

1.  Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2.  Body Oil

     Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils:  Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. 

 

3.  Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

 

1.  Fungus and food cravings gone

 

2.  Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Kills fungus in scalp and on body

 

1.  Expensive!!!!!!!

 

2.  Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Does not kill critters

 

 

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM

Subject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Looks like I've clicked send without writing anything; wasn't what I intended to do. Sorry.KrysOn 1 January 2012 13:27, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

On 1 January 2012 12:34, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Krys!|You´re definately right about that!

I will try to make him go to counceling, but I guess it will be a no..Happy new year and thanks for caring.Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:22 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Cecilia,It is nice that he has apologised. It still might be an idea to go to counselling together to help find a way to prevent a repeat occurrence the next time his temper gets frayed. Being aware that something was wrong when one is calm, & can think rationally, is not quite the same as being able to restrain oneself when ones temper is under pressure. 

All the best & happy new year.KrysOn 31 December 2011 12:06, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

 

Aggi!Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.

I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.Happy new year!||

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites "

<bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Dear Ce,

 

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> " bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Dear Cecilia,

 

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

 

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

 

Big hug,

Aggi

 

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back!  Hope you had a great time away.  I couldn't find doctoronline.com.  Is it called anything else?

From: " Aggi Assmann " <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid  Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

An: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills.  When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent.  They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product.  What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work!  Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .  

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply.  I said " no thank you. "  Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton " <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid  Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

 

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1.  detoxes A+

2.  Removes biofilm on skin

3.  Crawlies on skin  die in water

4.  Lesions heal

1. Initially " burns " until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1.  Fungus/mold

2.  Bacteria

3.  Virus

4.  Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to " scrub " skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1.  Removes " webbing " and crawlies on skin.

2.  Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1.  Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

 

 

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1.  Sores/lesions start to heal

1.  Must be repeated until completely healed

 

Red rash/bumps

1.  One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water.  (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2.  Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

 

 

3.  Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1.  Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear.  Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process.  Seems " stuff " rolls off with it.

 

2.  Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

 

3.  Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2.  After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off.  (Becomes less and less each time)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Wachereia 

      infection

2.  Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

 

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1.  Unsightly

2.  Lightens hair

3.  Stains clothing

1.  Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin.  Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. 

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1.  Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and " stuff " .

2.  Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1.  Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2.  Does not kill stuff in ears

1.  disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2.  Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water.  Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper.  Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 

1.  Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1.  Can hear skin ripping and pulling away.  No pain.

1.  Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution.   Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water.  Swish for a minute.  Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

 

1.  Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often.  Rub any " stuff " off.

1.  No more problems with anything

1.  Not very practical for work setting.

1.  Infection may be coming out through urine.  A fight to stop re infection.

 

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1.  Removes infection

 

 

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean.  1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.  

1.  Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 

2.  Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

 

Clothing

1.  Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

 

2.  Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

 

1.  Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

 

 

 

2.  Kills

1.  Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2.  Eggs can get by.

      May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1.  Black specks removed.  (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

 

3.  Iron clothing, undies and all

 

 

 

4.   Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3.  Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

 

4.  Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3.  Too hot can melt panties.

 

 

Keep Dryer Clean

1.  Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use.  Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1.  To prevent clothing re infection.

1.  Wash hands often.

1.  Dryers are warm and moist.  Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mold

1.  Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.  

 

2.  Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. 

 

1.  Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

 

2.  Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1.  Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

 

2.  Keeps water from contributing to mold

1.  Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1.  Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

 

 

Towels/washcloths

1.  Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

 

2.  Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 

1.  Prevents mold

 

 

 

 

2.  Easier to disinfect and see any problems

 

 

 

Flip Flops and Shoes

1.  Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel.  Hang to dry on a door hook.

 

2.  Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1.  Kills bugs not bacteria.  Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. 

 

 

 

2.  Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

 

 

Rugs

1.  30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water.  ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1.  Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

 

 

 

Fungus

1.  Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2.  Body Oil

     Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils:  Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. 

 

3.  Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

 

1.  Fungus and food cravings gone

 

2.  Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Kills fungus in scalp and on body

 

1.  Expensive!!!!!!!

 

2.  Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

 

 

 

 

 

3.  Does not kill critters

 

 

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM

Subject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Gosh, I NEVER do anything like that.... :-) From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Looks like I've clicked send without writing anything; wasn't what I intended to do. Sorry.KrysOn 1 January 2012 13:27, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

On 1 January 2012 12:34, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Thanks Krys!|You´re definately right about that!

I will try to make him go to counceling, but I guess it will be a no..Happy new year and thanks for caring.Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:22 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Cecilia,It is nice that he has apologised. It still might be an idea to go to counselling together to help find a way to prevent a repeat occurrence the next time his temper gets frayed. Being aware that something was wrong when one is calm, & can think rationally, is not quite the same as being able to restrain oneself when ones temper is under pressure.

All the best & happy new year.KrysOn 31 December 2011 12:06, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Aggi!Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.

I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.Happy new year!||

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> "bird mites "

<bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Ce,

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it called anything else?

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. detoxes A+

2. Removes biofilm on skin

3. Crawlies on skin die in water

4. Lesions heal

1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1. Fungus/mold

2. Bacteria

3. Virus

4. Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.

2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1. Sores/lesions start to heal

1. Must be repeated until completely healed

Red rash/bumps

1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.

2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2. After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time)

1. Wachereia

infection

2. Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1. Unsightly

2. Lightens hair

3. Stains clothing

1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off.

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".

2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2. Does not kill stuff in ears

1. disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2. Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.

1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain.

1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off.

1. No more problems with anything

1. Not very practical for work setting.

1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection.

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1. Removes infection

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.

1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.

2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

Clothing

1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

2. Kills

1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2. Eggs can get by.

May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

3. Iron clothing, undies and all

4. Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

4. Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3. Too hot can melt panties.

Keep Dryer Clean

1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1. To prevent clothing re infection.

1. Wash hands often.

1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

Mold

1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.

2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away.

1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

2. Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

1. Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

2. Keeps water from contributing to mold

1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

Towels/washcloths

1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones.

1. Prevents mold

2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems

Flip Flops and Shoes

1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.

2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed.

2. Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

Rugs

1. 30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

Fungus

1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2. Body Oil

Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano.

3. Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

1. Fungus and food cravings gone

2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body

1. Expensive!!!!!!!

2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

3. Does not kill critters

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM

Subject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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I've sent 4 or 5 of the same message before.. just to stress the point :0)) From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Gosh, I NEVER do anything like that.... :-) From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Looks like I've clicked send without writing anything; wasn't what I intended to do. Sorry.KrysOn 1 January 2012 13:27, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

On 1 January 2012 12:34, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Thanks Krys!|You´re definately right about that!

I will try to make him go to counceling, but I guess it will be a no..Happy new year and thanks for caring.Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:22 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Cecilia,It is nice that he has apologised. It still might be an idea to go to counselling together to help find a way to prevent a repeat occurrence the next time his temper gets frayed. Being aware that something was wrong when one is calm, & can think rationally, is not quite the same as being able to restrain oneself when ones temper is under pressure.

All the best & happy new year.KrysOn 31 December 2011 12:06, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Aggi!Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.

I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.Happy new year!||

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> "bird mites "

<bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Ce,

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it called anything else?

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. detoxes A+

2. Removes biofilm on skin

3. Crawlies on skin die in water

4. Lesions heal

1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1. Fungus/mold

2. Bacteria

3. Virus

4. Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.

2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1. Sores/lesions start to heal

1. Must be repeated until completely healed

Red rash/bumps

1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.

2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2. After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time)

1. Wachereia

infection

2. Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1. Unsightly

2. Lightens hair

3. Stains clothing

1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off.

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".

2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2. Does not kill stuff in ears

1. disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2. Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.

1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain.

1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off.

1. No more problems with anything

1. Not very practical for work setting.

1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection.

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1. Removes infection

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.

1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.

2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

Clothing

1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

2. Kills

1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2. Eggs can get by.

May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

3. Iron clothing, undies and all

4. Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

4. Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3. Too hot can melt panties.

Keep Dryer Clean

1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1. To prevent clothing re infection.

1. Wash hands often.

1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

Mold

1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.

2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away.

1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

2. Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

1. Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

2. Keeps water from contributing to mold

1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

Towels/washcloths

1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones.

1. Prevents mold

2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems

Flip Flops and Shoes

1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.

2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed.

2. Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

Rugs

1. 30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

Fungus

1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2. Body Oil

Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano.

3. Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

1. Fungus and food cravings gone

2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body

1. Expensive!!!!!!!

2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

3. Does not kill critters

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM

Subject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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The truth is, when we spend hours crafting a post we hope will help someone, the group is so popular, so terrifically useful, that all that valuable content is just swept away. I doubt anyone has time to keep up with all of it, and the newbies never see...soooo much great content, so many lessons learned, so many product reviews, so many unofficial studies conducted by the (now) many "generations" of members - in many cases, the same "studies" such as the many times different groups here have tried to identify commonalities that could have made us vulnerable, or discussions (how many hundreds) about borates, MMS, sulfates, diatomaceous earth, neem, olive leaf, oregano, yadda yadda...you know. Tim tries to capture the best of it, but the job is monumental - full-time.

kajay From: Kaz <kazk1@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I've sent 4 or 5 of the same message before.. just to stress the point :0)) From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...> "bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Gosh, I NEVER do anything like that.... :-) From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Looks like I've clicked send without writing anything; wasn't what I intended to do. Sorry.KrysOn 1 January 2012 13:27, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

On 1 January 2012 12:34, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Thanks Krys!|You´re definately right about that!

I will try to make him go to counceling, but I guess it will be a no..Happy new year and thanks for caring.Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

bird mites Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:22 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Cecilia,It is nice that he has apologised. It still might be an idea to go to counselling together to help find a way to prevent a repeat occurrence the next time his temper gets frayed. Being aware that something was wrong when one is calm, & can think rationally, is not quite the same as being able to restrain oneself when ones temper is under pressure.

All the best & happy new year.KrysOn 31 December 2011 12:06, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Aggi!Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.

I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.Happy new year!||

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> "bird mites "

<bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Ce,

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it called anything else?

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

An: "bird mites " <bird mites >

Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM

Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. detoxes A+

2. Removes biofilm on skin

3. Crawlies on skin die in water

4. Lesions heal

1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1. Fungus/mold

2. Bacteria

3. Virus

4. Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.

2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1. Sores/lesions start to heal

1. Must be repeated until completely healed

Red rash/bumps

1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.

2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2. After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time)

1. Wachereia

infection

2. Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1. Unsightly

2. Lightens hair

3. Stains clothing

1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off.

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".

2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2. Does not kill stuff in ears

1. disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2. Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.

1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain.

1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off.

1. No more problems with anything

1. Not very practical for work setting.

1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection.

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1. Removes infection

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.

1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.

2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

Clothing

1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

2. Kills

1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2. Eggs can get by.

May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

3. Iron clothing, undies and all

4. Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

4. Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3. Too hot can melt panties.

Keep Dryer Clean

1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1. To prevent clothing re infection.

1. Wash hands often.

1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

Mold

1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.

2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away.

1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

2. Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

1. Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

2. Keeps water from contributing to mold

1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

Towels/washcloths

1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones.

1. Prevents mold

2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems

Flip Flops and Shoes

1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.

2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed.

2. Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

Rugs

1. 30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

Fungus

1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2. Body Oil

Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano.

3. Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

1. Fungus and food cravings gone

2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body

1. Expensive!!!!!!!

2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

3. Does not kill critters

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>

bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM

Subject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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That is something, but not really good enough. He shouldn't have done it in the first place.

Think your decision is a very sensible one.

A very happy and healthy new year to you, dear Cecilia !

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 19:06 Samstag, 31.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Aggi!

Thanks for your wise words. At least he has given an apology to my daughter today, for what it is worth.

I have decided that if he doesn´t leave I will the next time anything like it happens.

Happy new year!||

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:31 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Ce,

Well, if it happened before and it got worse now, you wonder what will be next and you surely

do not wish to find out.

Being a mum I would protect my child just as you do and you should probably take him

by the word and make him move out. It is always easy to judge people, not knowing what triggered

his anger with your daughter, but in this case where it has happened repeatedly, it is probably the best

going separate ways, for your own sake and for your kid's sake.

Just follow your heart and you will find the right decision.

And for the time being, we are here in the background, to listen and to help, if ever possible.

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 19:22 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, Aggi!

It did happen that he has taken her arm hard and has been swearing to her, but this was worse.

I don´t accept that kind of behavior to a child.

BUt he is stubborn and doesn´t want to discuss it: he just say I´m overreacting and doesn´t anser when I am talking to him. He wrote a note that he is leaving as soon as he can and he says he will.

Thanks for caring and I don´t know what to do.

Good to hear you are so happy in your relationship.

All the best!

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:33 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Dear Cecilia,

so sorry to read about this and the stress you must be going through.

Was it the first incident with your husband and your daughter. Or were there signs and

symptoms before ?

Many hurtful things are sometimes said in the heat of the moment.

I think my boyfriend and I split up about 50 times verbally within our 7 years.

Surprisingly we are still living happily together :-)

Keep your chin up and try to speak to him.

Thinking of you and wishing you the best of luck !

Big hug,

Aggi

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 11:11 Donnerstag, 29.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi, all!|

I´m in despair. My husband twisted my daughters arm so hard yesterday and cursed her, when he became mad at her (she is only my daughter - she has another father, our smallest daughter we have together). I told him that he was awful and that I despised what he was doing and that he was crazy and so wrong doing it. He said I was psychiatrically sick and that he had the right to do what he did cause she did not obey him!'

THis morning he wrote a note that he is moving out as soon as possible.

I know it has nothing to do with birdmites, but still just needed some support..

KR

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:22 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Hi Aggi,

Welcome back! Hope you had a great time away. I couldn't find doctoronline.com. Is it called anything else?

From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:04:55 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

I have ordered Itraconazole on doctoronline.com at a much better price !

Von: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>An: "bird mites " <bird mites > Gesendet: 2:16 Samstag, 24.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them initially.

Love and light,

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list .

You also got it right on the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do.

From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Issue

Treatment

Outcome

Downfall

Possible?

Large lesions

Acyclovir

Large Lesions no longer present

Did not address co infections

Test = Herpetic Dermatitis

Issues coming from sores/lesions

2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. detoxes A+

2. Removes biofilm on skin

3. Crawlies on skin die in water

4. Lesions heal

1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it

2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures

1. Fungus/mold

2. Bacteria

3. Virus

4. Skin Nematode

Follows Super Soda Bath

Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers

(I buy by pound from

Starwest Botanicals)

1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.

2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions

1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin

Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and around them

1. Sores/lesions start to heal

1. Must be repeated until completely healed

Red rash/bumps

1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months

3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day.

1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.

2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females

3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after

1. Time consuming

2. After solution

is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time)

1. Wachereia

infection

2. Onchocerciosis

http://www.cdc.gov

/parasites/onchocerciasis/

health_professionals/index.html

3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections.

Benzyl Peroxide Gel

(Acne.com)

Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area.

1. Unsightly

2. Lightens hair

3. Stains clothing

1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off.

Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general

Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp)

1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".

2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer

1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling

2. Does not kill stuff in ears

1. disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis

2. Kills all critters on skin

Ears and Nose

Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside.

1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin.

1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain.

1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in.

Mouth

3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out.

Heals and removes bacteria/fungus.

1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily.

Private Area

1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off.

1. No more problems with anything

1. Not very practical for work setting.

1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection.

1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use.

1. Removes infection

Environment

1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly.

1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold.

2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's.

Clothing

1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.

2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.

1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.

2. Kills

1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer

2. Eggs can get by.

May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes.

1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs.

3. Iron clothing, undies and all

4. Roll clothing with sticky lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets)

3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things

4. Removes loosened eggs and fibers.

3. Too hot can melt panties.

Keep Dryer Clean

1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well.

1. To prevent clothing re infection.

1. Wash hands often.

1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria.

Bath

Mold

1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use.

2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away.

1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.

2. Use a small squeegee

to remove water from bottom of tub

1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.

1. Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom

2. Keeps water from contributing to mold

1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side.

1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.

1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.

Towels/washcloths

1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing

2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones.

1. Prevents mold

2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems

Flip Flops and Shoes

1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.

2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant.

1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed.

2. Kills bugs, bacteria, and fungus

Rugs

1. 30 activated drops of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner.

1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs

Fungus

1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months

2. Body Oil

Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano.

3. Cream

Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.

l

1. Fungus and food cravings gone

2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.

3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body

1. Expensive!!!!!!!

2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria

3. Does not kill critters

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PMSubject: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol. Love and light,

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Dear Kajay,

I am terribly sorry about the loss of your mum. She surely is resting in a pieceful and beautiful place now.

My dad died in 1997 at the age of 60. He ended his life, because he couldn't handle his Parkinson's disease any longer and did not want

to become a 'burden' for the family. He got that so wrong. We would have done anything for him. Still keep thinking about him each and

every day.

Still trying to catch up with all the mails during my holidays. I understand that something happened to the Morjella side.

Can I still upload my protocoll there ? Or would it be more useful to complete the pending tables has created?

Von: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 21:22 Montag, 26.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Thanks, Billkajay------------------------------On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST doe1769 wrote:>Hi katiejill>>>I am so sorry to hear about your Mom>>>>God bless you>,>>>Bill >>On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:>>>Can I just say, I have never seen such unselfishness in any group of human beings. You all ROCK!!!!!>Kajay >>------------------------------>On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST Doe wrote:>>>>>Hi I am in Michigan >>>> When I went to Freedom-pharmacy , I say the statement I had to accept did you or anyone have a problem with possible laws regarding antibiotics being mailed ?

>>>>>> Thanks , >>>>Bill >>>>Have a Happy New Year>>>>*>>*>>*>>*>>* ! >>>>>>------------------------------On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM EST Benton wrote:>They're on my list now! Thanks, !>Love and light,> >________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:22 AM>Subject: Re:

Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >That would be $12/pill - I found it at a Canadian pharmacy for $3.88 per pill. I'm probably going to order through them unless I can find it cheaper, but thanks dear. >Love and light2 >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:16:44 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them>> initially.>Love and light,

>>________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list . >You also got it right on

the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do. > >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re:>> Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible? >Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis >Issues coming from sores/lesions> 2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go

under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. detoxes A+>2. Removes biofilm on skin>3. Crawlies on skin die in water>4. Lesions heal 1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1. Fungus/mold>2. Bacteria>3. Virus>4. Skin Nematode >Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers>(I buy by pound from>Starwest Botanicals) 1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.>2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin > Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and>> around them 1. Sores/lesions start to heal 1. Must be repeated until completely healed >Red rash/bumps 1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

>2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months> > >3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.> >2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females> >3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming>2. After solution>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Wachereia > infection>2. >> Onchocerciosis>http://www.cdc.gov>/parasites/onchocerciasis/>health_professionals/index.html> > > > > > > > > >3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections. > Benzyl Peroxide

Gel>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1. Unsightly>2. Lightens hair>3. Stains clothing 1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. >Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".>2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer 1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling >2. Does not kill stuff in ears 1. >> disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis>2. Kills all critters on skin >Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece

of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain. 1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in. >Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out. Heals and removes bacteria/fungus. 1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily. >Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off. 1. No more problems with anything 1. Not very practical for work setting. 1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection. > 1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray>> or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1. Removes infection >Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon

in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly. 1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's. >Clothing 1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.> >2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.> 1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.> > > >2. Kills 1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer>2. Eggs can get by.> May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs. > 3. Iron clothing, undies and all> > > >4. Roll clothing with sticky>> lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets) 3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things> >4. Removes loosened eggs

and fibers. 3. Too hot can melt panties. > >Keep Dryer Clean 1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1. To prevent clothing re infection. 1. Wash hands often. 1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria. >Bath> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mold 1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use. > >2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. > >1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.> >2. Use a small squeegee >to remove water from bottom of tub 1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.> > > > > > > > >1. >> Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom>

>2. Keeps water from contributing to mold 1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side. > > > > > > > > > 1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.> > > > > > > > > >1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.> > >Towels/washcloths 1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing > >2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 1. Prevents mold> > > > >2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems> >Flip Flops and Shoes 1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.> >2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. > > > >2. Kills bugs, bacteria,

and fungus >Rugs 1. 30 activated>drops>> of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs > >Fungus 1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months>2. Body Oil> Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. > >3. Cream >Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.>l> 1. Fungus and food cravings gone> >2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.> > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body> 1. Expensive!!!!!!!> >2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria> > > > > >3. Does not kill critters > >________________________________>From:

Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM>Subject: Kajay />> jdavid Protocol> >What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol.Love and light,>>

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Aggi,My father also died in 1997 age 60, but he died of pancreatic cancer. 60 is just too young to die. :~(KrysOn 2 January 2012 16:50, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

 

Dear Kajay,

 

I am terribly sorry about the loss of your mum. She surely is resting in a pieceful and beautiful place now.

 

My dad died in 1997 at the age of 60. He ended his life, because he couldn't handle his Parkinson's disease any longer and did not want

to become a 'burden' for the family. He got that so wrong. We would have done anything for him. Still keep thinking about him each and

every day.

 

Still trying to catch up with all the mails during my holidays. I understand that something happened to the Morjella side.

Can I still upload my protocoll there ? Or would it be more useful to complete the pending tables has created?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>An: bird mites

Gesendet: 21:22 Montag, 26.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Thanks, Billkajay------------------------------On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST doe1769 wrote:>Hi katiejill>>>I am so sorry to hear about your Mom>>

>>God bless you>,>>>Bill >>On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

>>>Can I just say, I have never seen such unselfishness in any group of human beings. You all ROCK!!!!!>Kajay >>------------------------------>On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST Doe wrote:

>>>>>Hi I am in Michigan >>>> When I went to Freedom-pharmacy , I say the statement I had to accept did you or anyone have a problem with possible laws regarding antibiotics being mailed ?

>>>>>> Thanks , >>>>Bill >>>>Have a Happy New Year>>>>*>>*>>*>>*>>* ! >>>>

>>------------------------------On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM EST Benton wrote:>They're on my list now! Thanks, !>Love and light,> >________________________________>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:22 AM>Subject: Re:

Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >That would be $12/pill - I found it at a Canadian pharmacy for $3.88 per pill. I'm probably going to order through them unless I can find it cheaper, but thanks dear. >Love and light2 >________________________________>From: " Benton " <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:16:44 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them

>> initially.>Love and light,

>>________________________________>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list . >You also got it right on

the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said " no thank you. " Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do. > >________________________________>From: " Benton " <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re:

>> Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible? >Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis >Issues coming from sores/lesions> 2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go

under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. detoxes A+>2. Removes biofilm on skin>3. Crawlies on skin die in water>4. Lesions heal 1. Initially " burns " until sores start to heal (worth it>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1. Fungus/mold>2. Bacteria>3. Virus>4. Skin Nematode >Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to " scrub " skin with fingers>(I buy by pound from>Starwest Botanicals) 1. Removes " webbing " and crawlies on skin.>2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin > Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and

>> around them 1. Sores/lesions start to heal 1. Must be repeated until completely healed >Red rash/bumps 1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

>2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months> > >3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems " stuff " rolls off with it.> >2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females> >3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming>2. After solution>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Wachereia > infection>2.

>> Onchocerciosis>http://www.cdc.gov>/parasites/onchocerciasis/>health_professionals/index.html> > > > > > > > > >3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections. > Benzyl Peroxide

Gel>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1. Unsightly>2. Lightens hair>3. Stains clothing 1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. >Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and " stuff " .>2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer 1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling >2. Does not kill stuff in ears 1.

>> disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis>2. Kills all critters on skin >Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece

of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain. 1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in. >Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out. Heals and removes bacteria/fungus. 1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily. >Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any " stuff " off. 1. No more problems with anything 1. Not very practical for work setting. 1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection. > 1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray

>> or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1. Removes infection >Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon

in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly. 1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's. >Clothing 1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.> >2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.> 1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.> > > >2. Kills 1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer>2. Eggs can get by.> May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs. > 3. Iron clothing, undies and all> > > >4. Roll clothing with sticky

>> lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets) 3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things> >4. Removes loosened eggs

and fibers. 3. Too hot can melt panties. > >Keep Dryer Clean 1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1. To prevent clothing re infection. 1. Wash hands often. 1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria. >Bath> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mold 1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use. > >2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. > >1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.> >2. Use a small squeegee >to remove water from bottom of tub 1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.> > > > > > > > >1.

>> Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom>

>2. Keeps water from contributing to mold 1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side. > > > > > > > > > 1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.> > > > > > > > > >1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.> > >Towels/washcloths 1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing > >2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 1. Prevents mold> > > > >2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems> >Flip Flops and Shoes 1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.> >2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. > > > >2. Kills bugs, bacteria,

and fungus >Rugs 1. 30 activated>drops>> of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs > >Fungus 1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months>2. Body Oil> Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. > >3. Cream >Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.>l> 1. Fungus and food cravings gone> >2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.> > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body> 1. Expensive!!!!!!!> >2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria> > > > > >3. Does not kill critters > >________________________________>From:

Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM>Subject: Kajay /

>> jdavid Protocol> >What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol.Love and light,>>

--

I keep six honest serving-men

  (They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

  And How and Where and Who.

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Way too young Krys, that's for sure. Does it scare you having cancer cases in the family ?

How is your mom doing ? Seems like she is coping better with the mites now, does she ?

Von: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 23:57 Montag, 2.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Aggi,

My father also died in 1997 age 60, but he died of pancreatic cancer. 60 is just too young to die. :~(

Krys

On 2 January 2012 16:50, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Dear Kajay,

I am terribly sorry about the loss of your mum. She surely is resting in a pieceful and beautiful place now.

My dad died in 1997 at the age of 60. He ended his life, because he couldn't handle his Parkinson's disease any longer and did not want

to become a 'burden' for the family. He got that so wrong. We would have done anything for him. Still keep thinking about him each and

every day.

Still trying to catch up with all the mails during my holidays. I understand that something happened to the Morjella side.

Can I still upload my protocoll there ? Or would it be more useful to complete the pending tables has created?

Von: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 21:22 Montag, 26.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Thanks, Billkajay------------------------------On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST doe1769 wrote:>Hi katiejill>>>I am so sorry to hear about your Mom>>>>God bless you>,>>>Bill >>On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:>>>Can I just say, I have never seen such unselfishness in any group of human beings. You all ROCK!!!!!>Kajay >>------------------------------>On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST Doe wrote:>>>>>Hi I am in Michigan >>>> When I went to Freedom-pharmacy , I say the statement I had to accept did you or anyone have a problem with possible laws regarding antibiotics being mailed ?

>>>>>> Thanks , >>>>Bill >>>>Have a Happy New Year>>>>*>>*>>*>>*>>* ! >>>>>>------------------------------On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM EST Benton wrote:>They're on my list now! Thanks, !>Love and light,> >________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:22 AM>Subject: Re:

Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >That would be $12/pill - I found it at a Canadian pharmacy for $3.88 per pill. I'm probably going to order through them unless I can find it cheaper, but thanks dear. >Love and light2 >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:16:44 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them>> initially.>Love and light,

>>________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list . >You also got it right on

the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do. > >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re:>> Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible? >Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis >Issues coming from sores/lesions> 2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go

under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. detoxes A+>2. Removes biofilm on skin>3. Crawlies on skin die in water>4. Lesions heal 1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1. Fungus/mold>2. Bacteria>3. Virus>4. Skin Nematode >Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers>(I buy by pound from>Starwest Botanicals) 1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.>2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin > Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and>> around them 1. Sores/lesions start to heal 1. Must be repeated until completely healed >Red rash/bumps 1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

>2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months> > >3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.> >2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females> >3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming>2. After solution>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Wachereia > infection>2. >> Onchocerciosis>http://www.cdc.gov>/parasites/onchocerciasis/>health_professionals/index.html> > > > > > > > > >3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections. > Benzyl Peroxide

Gel>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1. Unsightly>2. Lightens hair>3. Stains clothing 1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. >Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".>2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer 1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling >2. Does not kill stuff in ears 1. >> disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis>2. Kills all critters on skin >Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece

of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain. 1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in. >Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out. Heals and removes bacteria/fungus. 1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily. >Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off. 1. No more problems with anything 1. Not very practical for work setting. 1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection. > 1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray>> or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1. Removes infection >Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon

in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly. 1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's. >Clothing 1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.> >2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.> 1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.> > > >2. Kills 1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer>2. Eggs can get by.> May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs. > 3. Iron clothing, undies and all> > > >4. Roll clothing with sticky>> lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets) 3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things> >4. Removes loosened eggs

and fibers. 3. Too hot can melt panties. > >Keep Dryer Clean 1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1. To prevent clothing re infection. 1. Wash hands often. 1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria. >Bath> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mold 1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use. > >2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. > >1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.> >2. Use a small squeegee >to remove water from bottom of tub 1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.> > > > > > > > >1. >> Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom>

>2. Keeps water from contributing to mold 1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side. > > > > > > > > > 1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.> > > > > > > > > >1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.> > >Towels/washcloths 1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing > >2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 1. Prevents mold> > > > >2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems> >Flip Flops and Shoes 1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.> >2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. > > > >2. Kills bugs, bacteria,

and fungus >Rugs 1. 30 activated>drops>> of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs > >Fungus 1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months>2. Body Oil> Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. > >3. Cream >Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.>l> 1. Fungus and food cravings gone> >2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.> > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body> 1. Expensive!!!!!!!> >2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria> > > > > >3. Does not kill critters > >________________________________>From:

Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM>Subject: Kajay />> jdavid Protocol> >What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol.Love and light,>>

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

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That is too young to die. Sorry Aggi and Krys that your dad's died so young. Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst cancers... and I can just imagine what your dad felt like with Parkinson's disease Aggi. My sister took her life when she was in her early 30's (35 years ago)-- she was bipolar. That could have been treated now, but back then they didn't have as many drugs to treat it. She would have had a fairly normal life had there been viable treatment options.From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 2:57:05 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Aggi,My father also died in 1997 age 60, but he died of pancreatic cancer. 60 is just too young to die. :~(KrysOn 2 January 2012 16:50, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Dear Kajay,

I am terribly sorry about the loss of your mum. She surely is resting in a pieceful and beautiful place now.

My dad died in 1997 at the age of 60. He ended his life, because he couldn't handle his Parkinson's disease any longer and did not want

to become a 'burden' for the family. He got that so wrong. We would have done anything for him. Still keep thinking about him each and

every day.

Still trying to catch up with all the mails during my holidays. I understand that something happened to the Morjella side.

Can I still upload my protocoll there ? Or would it be more useful to complete the pending tables has created?

Von: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>An: bird mites

Gesendet: 21:22 Montag, 26.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Thanks, Billkajay------------------------------On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST doe1769 wrote:>Hi katiejill>>>I am so sorry to hear about your Mom>>

>>God bless you>,>>>Bill >>On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

>>>Can I just say, I have never seen such unselfishness in any group of human beings. You all ROCK!!!!!>Kajay >>------------------------------>On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST Doe wrote:

>>>>>Hi I am in Michigan >>>> When I went to Freedom-pharmacy , I say the statement I had to accept did you or anyone have a problem with possible laws regarding antibiotics being mailed ?

>>>>>> Thanks , >>>>Bill >>>>Have a Happy New Year>>>>*>>*>>*>>*>>* ! >>>>

>>------------------------------On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM EST Benton wrote:>They're on my list now! Thanks, !>Love and light,> >________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:22 AM>Subject: Re:

Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >That would be $12/pill - I found it at a Canadian pharmacy for $3.88 per pill. I'm probably going to order through them unless I can find it cheaper, but thanks dear. >Love and light2 >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:16:44 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them

>> initially.>Love and light,

>>________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list . >You also got it right on

the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do. > >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re:

>> Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible? >Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis >Issues coming from sores/lesions> 2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go

under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. detoxes A+>2. Removes biofilm on skin>3. Crawlies on skin die in water>4. Lesions heal 1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1. Fungus/mold>2. Bacteria>3. Virus>4. Skin Nematode >Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers>(I buy by pound from>Starwest Botanicals) 1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.>2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin > Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and

>> around them 1. Sores/lesions start to heal 1. Must be repeated until completely healed >Red rash/bumps 1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

>2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months> > >3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.> >2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females> >3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming>2. After solution>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Wachereia > infection>2.

>> Onchocerciosis>http://www.cdc.gov>/parasites/onchocerciasis/>health_professionals/index.html> > > > > > > > > >3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections. > Benzyl Peroxide

Gel>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1. Unsightly>2. Lightens hair>3. Stains clothing 1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. >Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".>2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer 1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling >2. Does not kill stuff in ears 1.

>> disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis>2. Kills all critters on skin >Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece

of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain. 1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in. >Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out. Heals and removes bacteria/fungus. 1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily. >Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off. 1. No more problems with anything 1. Not very practical for work setting. 1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection. > 1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray

>> or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1. Removes infection >Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon

in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly. 1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's. >Clothing 1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.> >2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.> 1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.> > > >2. Kills 1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer>2. Eggs can get by.> May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs. > 3. Iron clothing, undies and all> > > >4. Roll clothing with sticky

>> lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets) 3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things> >4. Removes loosened eggs

and fibers. 3. Too hot can melt panties. > >Keep Dryer Clean 1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1. To prevent clothing re infection. 1. Wash hands often. 1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria. >Bath> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mold 1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use. > >2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. > >1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.> >2. Use a small squeegee >to remove water from bottom of tub 1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.> > > > > > > > >1.

>> Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom>

>2. Keeps water from contributing to mold 1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side. > > > > > > > > > 1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.> > > > > > > > > >1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.> > >Towels/washcloths 1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing > >2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 1. Prevents mold> > > > >2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems> >Flip Flops and Shoes 1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.> >2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. > > > >2. Kills bugs, bacteria,

and fungus >Rugs 1. 30 activated>drops>> of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs > >Fungus 1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months>2. Body Oil> Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. > >3. Cream >Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.>l> 1. Fungus and food cravings gone> >2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.> > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body> 1. Expensive!!!!!!!> >2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria> > > > > >3. Does not kill critters > >________________________________>From:

Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM>Subject: Kajay /

>> jdavid Protocol> >What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol.Love and light,>>

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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My father's father died of cancer at 49. My maternal grandmother started having heart trouble at 40. My partner has nightmares about dying .....personally I'd rather be an ostrich & worry about it when it happens. I think I try to do what I can; I eat almost exclusively healthy food, live in a rural area ....not so great on exercise but better than some. 

Things are much better for my mother now, but I am very aware that they are less active in the colder weather. I really hope they don't flare up badly again in the spring. I don't know whether I missed an email; I heard Egypt had cheap medicine, but did you have a great time? Was it amazing? Any pics (please :~))

KrysOn 2 January 2012 17:02, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

 

Way too young Krys, that's for sure. Does it scare you having cancer cases in the family ?

How is your mom doing ?  Seems like she is coping better with the mites now, does she ?

Von: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>An: bird mites

Gesendet: 23:57 Montag, 2.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Aggi,

My father also died in 1997 age 60, but he died of pancreatic cancer. 60 is just too young to die. :~(

Krys

On 2 January 2012 16:50, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

 

Dear Kajay,

 

I am terribly sorry about the loss of your mum. She surely is resting in a pieceful and beautiful place now.

 

My dad died in 1997 at the age of 60. He ended his life, because he couldn't handle his Parkinson's disease any longer and did not want

to become a 'burden' for the family. He got that so wrong. We would have done anything for him. Still keep thinking about him each and

every day.

 

Still trying to catch up with all the mails during my holidays. I understand that something happened to the Morjella side.

Can I still upload my protocoll there ? Or would it be more useful to complete the pending tables has created?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Von: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>

An: bird mites Gesendet: 21:22 Montag, 26.Dezember 2011

Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

 

Thanks, Billkajay------------------------------On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST doe1769 wrote:>Hi katiejill>>>I am so sorry to hear about your Mom>>

>>God bless you>,>>>Bill >>On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

>>>Can I just say, I have never seen such unselfishness in any group of human beings. You all ROCK!!!!!>Kajay >>------------------------------>On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST Doe wrote:

>>>>>Hi I am in Michigan >>>> When I went to Freedom-pharmacy , I say the statement I had to accept did you or anyone have a problem with possible laws regarding antibiotics being mailed ?

>>>>>> Thanks , >>>>Bill >>>>Have a Happy New Year>>>>*>>*>>*>>*>>* ! >>>>

>>------------------------------On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM EST Benton wrote:>They're on my list now! Thanks, !>Love and light,> >________________________________>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:22 AM>Subject: Re:

Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >That would be $12/pill - I found it at a Canadian pharmacy for $3.88 per pill. I'm probably going to order through them unless I can find it cheaper, but thanks dear. >Love and light2 >________________________________>From: " Benton " <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:16:44 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them

>> initially.>Love and light,

>>________________________________>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list . >You also got it right on

the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said " no thank you. " Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do. > >________________________________>From: " Benton " <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re:

>> Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible? >Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis >Issues coming from sores/lesions> 2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go

under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. detoxes A+>2. Removes biofilm on skin>3. Crawlies on skin die in water>4. Lesions heal 1. Initially " burns " until sores start to heal (worth it>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1. Fungus/mold>2. Bacteria>3. Virus>4. Skin Nematode >Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to " scrub " skin with fingers>(I buy by pound from>Starwest Botanicals) 1. Removes " webbing " and crawlies on skin.>2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin > Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and

>> around them 1. Sores/lesions start to heal 1. Must be repeated until completely healed >Red rash/bumps 1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

>2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months> > >3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems " stuff " rolls off with it.> >2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females> >3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming>2. After solution>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Wachereia > infection>2.

>> Onchocerciosis>http://www.cdc.gov>/parasites/onchocerciasis/>health_professionals/index.html> > > > > > > > > >3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections. > Benzyl Peroxide

Gel>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1. Unsightly>2. Lightens hair>3. Stains clothing 1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. >Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and " stuff " .>2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer 1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling >2. Does not kill stuff in ears 1.

>> disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis>2. Kills all critters on skin >Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece

of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain. 1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in. >Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out. Heals and removes bacteria/fungus. 1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily. >Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any " stuff " off. 1. No more problems with anything 1. Not very practical for work setting. 1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection. > 1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray

>> or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1. Removes infection >Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon

in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly. 1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's. >Clothing 1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.> >2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.> 1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.> > > >2. Kills 1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer>2. Eggs can get by.> May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs. > 3. Iron clothing, undies and all> > > >4. Roll clothing with sticky

>> lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets) 3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things> >4. Removes loosened eggs

and fibers. 3. Too hot can melt panties. > >Keep Dryer Clean 1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1. To prevent clothing re infection. 1. Wash hands often. 1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria. >Bath> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mold 1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use. > >2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. > >1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.> >2. Use a small squeegee >to remove water from bottom of tub 1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.> > > > > > > > >1.

>> Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom>

>2. Keeps water from contributing to mold 1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side. > > > > > > > > > 1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.> > > > > > > > > >1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.> > >Towels/washcloths 1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing > >2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 1. Prevents mold> > > > >2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems> >Flip Flops and Shoes 1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.> >2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. > > > >2. Kills bugs, bacteria,

and fungus >Rugs 1. 30 activated>drops>> of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs > >Fungus 1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months>2. Body Oil> Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. > >3. Cream >Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.>l> 1. Fungus and food cravings gone> >2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.> > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body> 1. Expensive!!!!!!!> >2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria> > > > > >3. Does not kill critters > >________________________________>From:

Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM>Subject: Kajay /

>> jdavid Protocol> >What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol.Love and light,>>

-- I keep six honest serving-men  (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When  And How and Where and Who.

Rudyard Kipling

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Their names are What and Why and When

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Sorry to hear about your sister, LInda. That must have been terrible time for your family.Take care!Cecilia From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> bird mites Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 1:12 AM Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

That is too young to die. Sorry Aggi and Krys that your dad's died so young. Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst cancers... and I can just imagine what your dad felt like with Parkinson's disease Aggi. My sister took her life when she was in her early 30's (35 years ago)-- she was bipolar. That could have been treated now, but back then they didn't have as many drugs to treat it. She would have had a fairly normal life had there been viable treatment options.From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 2:57:05 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Aggi,My father also died in 1997 age 60, but he died of pancreatic cancer. 60 is just too young to die. :~(KrysOn 2 January 2012 16:50, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Dear Kajay,

I am terribly sorry about the loss of your mum. She surely is resting in a pieceful and beautiful place now.

My dad died in 1997 at the age of 60. He ended his life, because he couldn't handle his Parkinson's disease any longer and did not want

to become a 'burden' for the family. He got that so wrong. We would have done anything for him. Still keep thinking about him each and

every day.

Still trying to catch up with all the mails during my holidays. I understand that something happened to the Morjella side.

Can I still upload my protocoll there ? Or would it be more useful to complete the pending tables has created?

Von: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>An: bird mites

Gesendet: 21:22 Montag, 26.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Thanks, Billkajay------------------------------On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST doe1769 wrote:>Hi katiejill>>>I am so sorry to hear about your Mom>>

>>God bless you>,>>>Bill >>On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

>>>Can I just say, I have never seen such unselfishness in any group of human beings. You all ROCK!!!!!>Kajay >>------------------------------>On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST Doe wrote:

>>>>>Hi I am in Michigan >>>> When I went to Freedom-pharmacy , I say the statement I had to accept did you or anyone have a problem with possible laws regarding antibiotics being mailed ?

>>>>>> Thanks , >>>>Bill >>>>Have a Happy New Year>>>>*>>*>>*>>*>>* ! >>>>

>>------------------------------On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM EST Benton wrote:>They're on my list now! Thanks, !>Love and light,> >________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:22 AM>Subject: Re:

Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >That would be $12/pill - I found it at a Canadian pharmacy for $3.88 per pill. I'm probably going to order through them unless I can find it cheaper, but thanks dear. >Love and light2 >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:16:44 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them

>> initially.>Love and light,

>>________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list . >You also got

it right on

the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do. > >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re:

>> Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible? >Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis >Issues coming from sores/lesions> 2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go

under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. detoxes A+>2. Removes biofilm on skin>3. Crawlies on skin die in water>4. Lesions heal 1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1. Fungus/mold>2. Bacteria>3. Virus>4. Skin Nematode >Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers>(I buy by pound from>Starwest Botanicals) 1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.>2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin > Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and

>> around them 1. Sores/lesions start to heal 1. Must be repeated until completely healed >Red rash/bumps 1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

>2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months> > >3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.> >2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females> >3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming>2. After solution>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Wachereia > infection>2.

>> Onchocerciosis>http://www.cdc.gov>/parasites/onchocerciasis/>health_professionals/index.html> > > > > > > > > >3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections. > Benzyl Peroxide

Gel>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1. Unsightly>2. Lightens hair>3. Stains clothing 1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. >Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".>2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer 1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling >2. Does not kill stuff in ears 1.

>> disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis>2. Kills all critters on skin >Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece

of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain. 1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in. >Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out. Heals and removes bacteria/fungus. 1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily. >Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off. 1. No more problems with anything 1. Not very practical for work setting. 1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection. > 1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray

>> or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1. Removes infection >Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon

in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly. 1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's. >Clothing 1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.> >2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.> 1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.> > > >2. Kills 1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer>2. Eggs can get by.> May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs. > 3. Iron clothing, undies and all> > > >4. Roll clothing with sticky

>> lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets) 3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things> >4. Removes loosened eggs

and fibers. 3. Too hot can melt panties. > >Keep Dryer Clean 1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1. To prevent clothing re infection. 1. Wash hands often. 1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria. >Bath> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mold 1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use. > >2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. > >1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.> >2. Use a small squeegee >to remove water from bottom of tub 1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.> > > > > > > > >1.

>> Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom>

>2. Keeps water from contributing to mold 1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side. > > > > > > > > > 1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.> > > > > > > > > >1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.> > >Towels/washcloths 1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing > >2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 1. Prevents mold> > > > >2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems> >Flip Flops and Shoes 1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.> >2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. > > > >2. Kills bugs, bacteria,

and fungus >Rugs 1. 30 activated>drops>> of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs > >Fungus 1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months>2. Body Oil> Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. > >3. Cream >Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.>l> 1. Fungus and food cravings gone> >2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.> > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body> 1. Expensive!!!!!!!> >2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria> > > > > >3. Does not kill critters > >________________________________>From:

Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM>Subject: Kajay /

>> jdavid Protocol> >What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol.Love and light,>>

--

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

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How terrible ! They probably say that about us in 35 years time... with the appropriate treatment options ...who knows

Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 1:12 Dienstag, 3.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

That is too young to die. Sorry Aggi and Krys that your dad's died so young. Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst cancers... and I can just imagine what your dad felt like with Parkinson's disease Aggi. My sister took her life when she was in her early 30's (35 years ago)-- she was bipolar. That could have been treated now, but back then they didn't have as many drugs to treat it. She would have had a fairly normal life had there been viable treatment options.

From: "Krys Brennand" <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 2:57:05 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Aggi,

My father also died in 1997 age 60, but he died of pancreatic cancer. 60 is just too young to die. :~(

Krys

On 2 January 2012 16:50, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Dear Kajay,

I am terribly sorry about the loss of your mum. She surely is resting in a pieceful and beautiful place now.

My dad died in 1997 at the age of 60. He ended his life, because he couldn't handle his Parkinson's disease any longer and did not want

to become a 'burden' for the family. He got that so wrong. We would have done anything for him. Still keep thinking about him each and

every day.

Still trying to catch up with all the mails during my holidays. I understand that something happened to the Morjella side.

Can I still upload my protocoll there ? Or would it be more useful to complete the pending tables has created?

Von: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 21:22 Montag, 26.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Thanks, Billkajay------------------------------On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST doe1769 wrote:>Hi katiejill>>>I am so sorry to hear about your Mom>>>>God bless you>,>>>Bill >>On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:>>>Can I just say, I have never seen such unselfishness in any group of human beings. You all ROCK!!!!!>Kajay >>------------------------------>On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST Doe wrote:>>>>>Hi I am in Michigan >>>> When I went to Freedom-pharmacy , I say the statement I had to accept did you or anyone have a problem with possible laws regarding antibiotics being mailed ?

>>>>>> Thanks , >>>>Bill >>>>Have a Happy New Year>>>>*>>*>>*>>*>>* ! >>>>>>------------------------------On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM EST Benton wrote:>They're on my list now! Thanks, !>Love and light,> >________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:22 AM>Subject: Re:

Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >That would be $12/pill - I found it at a Canadian pharmacy for $3.88 per pill. I'm probably going to order through them unless I can find it cheaper, but thanks dear. >Love and light2 >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:16:44 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them>> initially.>Love and light,

>>________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list . >You also got it right on

the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do. > >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re:>> Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible? >Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis >Issues coming from sores/lesions> 2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go

under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. detoxes A+>2. Removes biofilm on skin>3. Crawlies on skin die in water>4. Lesions heal 1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1. Fungus/mold>2. Bacteria>3. Virus>4. Skin Nematode >Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers>(I buy by pound from>Starwest Botanicals) 1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.>2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin > Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and>> around them 1. Sores/lesions start to heal 1. Must be repeated until completely healed >Red rash/bumps 1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

>2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months> > >3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.> >2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females> >3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming>2. After solution>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Wachereia > infection>2. >> Onchocerciosis>http://www.cdc.gov>/parasites/onchocerciasis/>health_professionals/index.html> > > > > > > > > >3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections. > Benzyl Peroxide

Gel>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1. Unsightly>2. Lightens hair>3. Stains clothing 1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. >Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".>2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer 1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling >2. Does not kill stuff in ears 1. >> disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis>2. Kills all critters on skin >Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece

of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain. 1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in. >Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out. Heals and removes bacteria/fungus. 1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily. >Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off. 1. No more problems with anything 1. Not very practical for work setting. 1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection. > 1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray>> or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1. Removes infection >Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon

in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly. 1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's. >Clothing 1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.> >2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.> 1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.> > > >2. Kills 1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer>2. Eggs can get by.> May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs. > 3. Iron clothing, undies and all> > > >4. Roll clothing with sticky>> lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets) 3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things> >4. Removes loosened eggs

and fibers. 3. Too hot can melt panties. > >Keep Dryer Clean 1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1. To prevent clothing re infection. 1. Wash hands often. 1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria. >Bath> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mold 1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use. > >2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. > >1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.> >2. Use a small squeegee >to remove water from bottom of tub 1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.> > > > > > > > >1. >> Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom>

>2. Keeps water from contributing to mold 1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side. > > > > > > > > > 1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.> > > > > > > > > >1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.> > >Towels/washcloths 1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing > >2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 1. Prevents mold> > > > >2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems> >Flip Flops and Shoes 1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.> >2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. > > > >2. Kills bugs, bacteria,

and fungus >Rugs 1. 30 activated>drops>> of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs > >Fungus 1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months>2. Body Oil> Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. > >3. Cream >Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.>l> 1. Fungus and food cravings gone> >2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.> > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body> 1. Expensive!!!!!!!> >2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria> > > > > >3. Does not kill critters > >________________________________>From:

Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM>Subject: Kajay />> jdavid Protocol> >What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol.Love and light,>>

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

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Hello again Krys,

Wow, quite a history within your family, but there is not much one can do apart from living a healthy life style. Up is up said the ostrich, sticking it's head in the sand :-) Speaking of sand...Sharm El Sheik has been one of our most wonderful holidays, considering it is only desert and then this fantastic Red Sea, I am calling 'fish soup'. The hotel is 100% recommendable, I have never ever felt pampered like I did there, they treated us as though we were some kind of royals. Excellent food with changing themes, Egyptian, Arabic, Italian, Asian, French. We had a lovely room with a huge ivory bath room and the most perfect view, looking onto the sea and then to the left the completely lit up Naema Bay. We have done snorkelling trips on the diving boat which was great fun, on my 50. birthday I got breakfast in bed, then a lovely flower bouquet, a big cake of the hotel management and later this afternoon

we went for a beduine night, starting with a camel ride (what an experience:-), followed by baking bread with the beduins, drinking tea and smoking Shisha water pipe,

later on dinner and dances and a belly dancer, which seems to be the highlight for eyery Egyptian guy. No wonder, most of them are too poor to even get married, an average salary in Egpt is about a hundred Euros. Many wanted to buy me, but it turned out they didn't have enough camels to do so, lol.

These people are always up for a joke and it is great fun to be with them. We also had discussions about religion, I was amazed how openly they would discuss a personal subject like this. Well, I could just go on and on, but it got a bit late now. Will send some pics over next time.

I am very glad that your mother is feeling a bit relieved right now, lets hope it stays that way. My mites never really went into hibernation, I guess the house is just too nice and warm for them all year.

Von: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 1:19 Dienstag, 3.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

My father's father died of cancer at 49. My maternal grandmother started having heart trouble at 40. My partner has nightmares about dying .....personally I'd rather be an ostrich & worry about it when it happens. I think I try to do what I can; I eat almost exclusively healthy food, live in a rural area ....not so great on exercise but better than some.

Things are much better for my mother now, but I am very aware that they are less active in the colder weather. I really hope they don't flare up badly again in the spring.

I don't know whether I missed an email; I heard Egypt had cheap medicine, but did you have a great time? Was it amazing? Any pics (please :~))

Krys

On 2 January 2012 17:02, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Way too young Krys, that's for sure. Does it scare you having cancer cases in the family ?

How is your mom doing ? Seems like she is coping better with the mites now, does she ?

Von: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 23:57 Montag, 2.Januar 2012

Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Aggi,

My father also died in 1997 age 60, but he died of pancreatic cancer. 60 is just too young to die. :~(

Krys

On 2 January 2012 16:50, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Dear Kajay,

I am terribly sorry about the loss of your mum. She surely is resting in a pieceful and beautiful place now.

My dad died in 1997 at the age of 60. He ended his life, because he couldn't handle his Parkinson's disease any longer and did not want

to become a 'burden' for the family. He got that so wrong. We would have done anything for him. Still keep thinking about him each and

every day.

Still trying to catch up with all the mails during my holidays. I understand that something happened to the Morjella side.

Can I still upload my protocoll there ? Or would it be more useful to complete the pending tables has created?

Von: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 21:22 Montag, 26.Dezember 2011Betreff: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol

Thanks, Billkajay------------------------------On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 2:56 PM EST doe1769 wrote:>Hi katiejill>>>I am so sorry to hear about your Mom>>>>God bless you>,>>>Bill >>On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:>>>Can I just say, I have never seen such unselfishness in any group of human beings. You all ROCK!!!!!>Kajay >>------------------------------>On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 12:38 PM EST Doe wrote:>>>>>Hi I am in Michigan >>>> When I went to Freedom-pharmacy , I say the statement I had to accept did you or anyone have a problem with possible laws regarding antibiotics being mailed ?

>>>>>> Thanks , >>>>Bill >>>>Have a Happy New Year>>>>*>>*>>*>>*>>* ! >>>>>>------------------------------On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 11:23 AM EST Benton wrote:>They're on my list now! Thanks, !>Love and light,> >________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 2:22 AM>Subject: Re:

Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >That would be $12/pill - I found it at a Canadian pharmacy for $3.88 per pill. I'm probably going to order through them unless I can find it cheaper, but thanks dear. >Love and light2 >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Friday, December 23, 2011 5:16:44 PMSubject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Freedom pharmacy has it for $180. for 15 pills. When they have a special, you can get discounts of 10, 20 or 30 percent. They don't offer the discount to you until you order from them>> initially.>Love and light,

>>________________________________>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:32 PM>Subject: Re: Kajay / jdavid Protocol> >One of the beauties of this group is that we are not selling anything or pushing any particular product. What works for one, doesn't always do the job for others... this is a great list and I know many of these things work! Thank you for all your time and effort in putting together this handy list . >You also got it right on

the Itraconazole... the pharmacy wanted $1,000 for a one month supply. I said "no thank you." Aandraya suggested I try some other avenues to try to get it cheaper which I'll do. > >________________________________>From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites@...: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:36:46 AMSubject: Re:>> Kajay / jdavid Protocol >Issue Treatment Outcome Downfall Possible? >Large lesions Acyclovir Large Lesions no longer present Did not address co infections Test = Herpetic Dermatitis >Issues coming from sores/lesions> 2 Cups of Arm & Hammer Super Soda Wash in large bath (Use straw or snorkel to go

under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. detoxes A+>2. Removes biofilm on skin>3. Crawlies on skin die in water>4. Lesions heal 1. Initially "burns" until sores start to heal (worth it>2. Does not kill eggs or under skin creatures 1. Fungus/mold>2. Bacteria>3. Virus>4. Skin Nematode >Follows Super Soda Bath Use powdered Olive leaf to "scrub" skin with fingers>(I buy by pound from>Starwest Botanicals) 1. Removes "webbing" and crawlies on skin.>2. Works to heal and disinfect sores/lesions 1. Only addresses what has made it to the surface layer of the skin > Scratching or rubbing jagged stuff or webbing out/off of sores and>> around them 1. Sores/lesions start to heal 1. Must be repeated until completely healed >Red rash/bumps 1. One pill of Doxycycline dissolved in water. (I let the pill sit for hour in about 3 tablespoons and then add about ½ cup of hot water before massaging into scalp and body.

>2. Ivermectin 150mg. once every 3 to 6 months> > >3. Follow the latter with 6wks to 2 months of Doxycycline 100mgs 2 X day. 1. Rash raises and then slowing starts to disappear. Dead infected skin rolls off of area during process. Seems "stuff" rolls off with it.> >2. Ivermictin kills microfilaria and sterilizes adult females> >3. Do not eat/drink 2 hours before or after 1. Time consuming>2. After solution>is close to dry on body, rub fingers all over and roll any loose balls, webbing, skin, etc. off. (Becomes less and less each time) > > > > > > > > > > 1. Wachereia > infection>2. >> Onchocerciosis>http://www.cdc.gov>/parasites/onchocerciasis/>health_professionals/index.html> > > > > > > > > >3. Kills Wachereia and many other bacterial infections. > Benzyl Peroxide

Gel>(Acne.com) Prior to Doxycycline treatment to the skin, 7 days use dried and peeled skin to uncover effected area. 1. Unsightly>2. Lightens hair>3. Stains clothing 1. Seems microfilaria (eggs) is woven in dead and sickly skin. Parent worm often found in the midst stuck to dead skin that comes off. >Mites, collembola, beetles Onchocerciosis, crawlies in general Bath in 1 cup of Lysol Complete Clean (Use straw or snorkel to go under water and comb hair close to scalp) 1. Bath will be filled with dead critters, black specks, and "stuff".>2. Body tingles for awhile as it seems to kill stuff just beneath the skin layer 1. Initial bathes cause huge die off that dumps toxins into body and makes you nauseated and sick feeling >2. Does not kill stuff in ears 1. >> disinfectant killing bacteria on and just below epidermis>2. Kills all critters on skin >Ears and Nose Sterilize herbal drop bottle in hot water. Dissolve a piece

of Doxycycline pill in sterile water and put in dropper. Apply to Q tip to soak nostrils and drop into ears to coat inside. 1. Effected ear(s) dry out and skin inside molts like reptile skin. 1. Can hear skin ripping and pulling away. No pain. 1. Infection in inside of ear killed by topical solution. Dissuades critters from going in. >Mouth 3 drops activated MMS in sterile water. Swish for a minute. Spit out. Heals and removes bacteria/fungus. 1. Mouth harbors bacteria easily. >Private Area 1. Keep dissolved Doxycycline applied to area often. Rub any "stuff" off. 1. No more problems with anything 1. Not very practical for work setting. 1. Infection may be coming out through urine. A fight to stop re infection. > 1. Spray toilet seat alternately with Tilex Mildew spray>> or Lysol Disinfectant and wipe clean after every use. 1. Removes infection >Environment 1. Clean all surfaces (car) with Lysol Complete Clean. 1 cup to the gallon

in hand Garden Pump sprayer and mop moves quickly. 1. Kills mite, bugs, crawlies, bacteria, fungus and mold. 2. Not too expensive if bought by the gallon at Lowe's. >Clothing 1. Boil for 1 hour initially (I figure since it takes this long to kill the silk worm egg, not a bad idea.> >2. Soak clothing in washer in Lysol complete clean at least 2 to 3 hours.> 1. Boiling kills black specks, mites, bugs, etc.> > > >2. Kills 1. Very time consuming, electric bill tells story, dangerous carrying hot pot to washer>2. Eggs can get by.> May leave bleach spots if not mixed well before adding clothes. 1. Black specks removed. (I feel these are fungal which contain symbiotic bugs, nematodes, and eggs. > 3. Iron clothing, undies and all> > > >4. Roll clothing with sticky>> lint roller while pressing (Check inside of pockets) 3. Helps to remove sticking things and kills live things> >4. Removes loosened eggs

and fibers. 3. Too hot can melt panties. > >Keep Dryer Clean 1. Wipe drum, vent, and doors with white vinegar soaked toweling after every use. Clean floor and walls next to it as well. 1. To prevent clothing re infection. 1. Wash hands often. 1. Dryers are warm and moist. Perfect host to fungus and bacteria. >Bath> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mold 1. Keep a gallon container to fill and slowly pour over bottom of tub as you balance on the side of the bath after use. > >2. Thoroughly clean with powdered Comet after every use using a paper towel that can be thrown away. > >1. Cut plastic shower curtains off up to the weights.> >2. Use a small squeegee >to remove water from bottom of tub 1. Washes fungus, mites, bugs, or whatever that remains on the bottom down drain before cleaning.> > > > > > > > >1. >> Keeps curtain from developing mold on bottom>

>2. Keeps water from contributing to mold 1. Make sure the ledge you sit on is cleaned before you place your buns on it or your feet on the other side. > > > > > > > > > 1. Even when dead, bugs may be pregnant with eggs and can stick to your feet.> > > > > > > > > >1. Don't want crawlies to save themselves with it.> > >Towels/washcloths 1. Keep a drying rack in bathroom to allow towels to dry until washing > >2. Buy thin, white, cheap ones. 1. Prevents mold> > > > >2. Easier to disinfect and see any problems> >Flip Flops and Shoes 1. Clean Flip Flops with combination of white vinegar and salt in a spray bottle and with a paper towel. Hang to dry on a door hook.> >2. Spray inside and bottoms of shoes with Lysol Disinfectant. 1. Kills bugs not bacteria. Clean with Lysol from time to time or replace as needed. > > > >2. Kills bugs, bacteria,

and fungus >Rugs 1. 30 activated>drops>> of mms per gallon of water. ¼ of this mixture mixed with water in rug cleaner. 1. Kills bugs, bacteria, fungus in rugs > >Fungus 1. Itraconazole 100mg/day for 5 months>2. Body Oil> Mix 16 oz. of melted coconut oil with 100 drops each of the following essential oils: Clove bud, Bitter Orange, Ginger, Tea Tree, Eucalyptus, Lemon Eucalyptus, and about 20 drops of oregano. > >3. Cream >Mix Kroger's generic Athlete's foot cream with equal amounts of hydrocortisone, and a little A and D baby ointment.>l> 1. Fungus and food cravings gone> >2. Kills fungus in scalp and on body.> > > > > > > > > > > > >3. Kills fungus in scalp and on body> 1. Expensive!!!!!!!> >2. Does not kill critters and seems to feed bacteria> > > > > >3. Does not kill critters > >________________________________>From:

Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:57 PM>Subject: Kajay />> jdavid Protocol> >What works for me! I will post this and then reply to my own posting with the attachment of the protocol.Love and light,>>

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

-- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew);Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who.Rudyard Kipling

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