Re: ROOT CANAL

[Guest guest]

Hello - I'm looking for information about root canals. Can someone

share with me a web site that might be helpful? I just saw this post

and I have no understanding of the impact of root canals on one's

health. Thank you. Sharon

rheumatic root canal

>From: starboek@...

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>Dear Group, I was off line for several weeks and missed the

discussion

>of root canals. I must consult a dentist about an abcess, which

could

>lead to the choice between a root canal or an extraction. I have

>rheumatoid arthritis. What do I most need to know in making this

>decision? Thank you. Peggy

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[Guest guest]

I'll say a short prayer for you, that it's a pain free procedure.

Hugs,

Carol

[ ] root canal

Ok everyone, I'm off to the dentist for my root canal. Never had one

before..so I'm a little nervous. Wish me luck. I'll let you know how it

goes.

Love and Hugs,

Stacey in PA

[Guest guest]

Good Luck Stacey.....You are a brave soul...I would

rather be beat than go to the dentist...and it just

about takes a beating to get me there......lets us

know you are OK...Kathi in OK

--- staceycrwfrd@... wrote:

> Ok everyone, I'm off to the dentist for my root

> canal. Never had one

> before..so I'm a little nervous. Wish me luck.

> I'll let you know how it

> goes.

> Love and Hugs,

> Stacey in PA

>

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[Guest guest]

Tess--hope your toofie is better. I hate root canals worse than not

being able to eat chocolate or drink coffee!

((((((((((((((Tess' tooth & Tess))))))))))))))))))

[Guest guest]

Tess,

I hope you are feeling somewhat better. Nothing worse, that chopper

troubles. You are about due for some very good luck very soon! It just

seems like it is one thing after another.

Please don't use this as a way to lose weight!

It will be sign language for you for a couple of days!

Debs

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--- In , " Evely " <je@h...>

wrote:

> I need help making a decision regarding toothwork.

,

I've been looking for a more holistic dentist for some time as I

haven't been back to my old dentist in 5 years. Well, I broke a tooth

last month and that forced me to find my new dentist quickly. I am

going thru MAJOR dental work right now, so I can apprecitate the

decisions you're trying to make. I chose the more expensive route

(bridge) versus a root canal. Even though this meant having a tooth

extracted, it was still was a very easy decision for me. 5 years ago

I had a root canal and crown done on one of my teeth. About a month

and a half later I developed FM, CFS and MCS and have been battling

these things ever since. Although my chiroprator had asked if I had

any dental work done, she never got specific about the root canal

(don't know if she knew about the harm they can cause), so I never

connected it as the source for my illnesses. Since it's been a few

years, I actually forgot that I had it done. I remember the crown,

but forgot about the root canal. In fact, when I filled out the

questionnaire at my new dentist, I answered " no " to the question on

root canals. My recent dental x-rays revealed that I did have a root

canal done and have a serious infection in that root canal. I'm not

trying to scare you, but for me, I will never risk another root canal

putting me through what I've been through for the last five years. I

feel for you as I know how expensive this stuff is. Dentists really

seem to be pushing root canals, even as a preventive measure. My

dentist is out of my insurance network, but the lower level of

coverage is worth the peace of mind I have now. After my extraction 2

weeks ago, I came down with a cold - the first one I've had in

several years. I look at dental work a lot differently now.

It's funny, I've been reading a lot about the harms of root canals

over the past year, but I never had a clue that I had a bad one right

inside of me.

[Guest guest]

hi

wow! you have been through alot also!!

~What I don't understand is why my other dentist was so anxious to do root

canal when there is no decay in that tooth.. it is just fractured

... I guess it just depends on the dentist you go to.. each dentist is going

to say something different as has been my case :/

jen

Re: ROOT CANAL

>

> > I need help making a decision regarding toothwork.

>

> ,

>

> I've been looking for a more holistic dentist for some time as I

> haven't been back to my old dentist in 5 years. Well, I broke a tooth

> last month and that forced me to find my new dentist quickly. I am

> going thru MAJOR dental work right now, so I can apprecitate the

> decisions you're trying to make. I chose the more expensive route

> (bridge) versus a root canal. Even though this meant having a tooth

> extracted, it was still was a very easy decision for me. 5 years ago

> I had a root canal and crown done on one of my teeth. About a month

> and a half later I developed FM, CFS and MCS and have been battling

> these things ever since. Although my chiroprator had asked if I had

> any dental work done, she never got specific about the root canal

> (don't know if she knew about the harm they can cause), so I never

> connected it as the source for my illnesses. Since it's been a few

> years, I actually forgot that I had it done. I remember the crown,

> but forgot about the root canal. In fact, when I filled out the

> questionnaire at my new dentist, I answered " no " to the question on

> root canals. My recent dental x-rays revealed that I did have a root

> canal done and have a serious infection in that root canal. I'm not

> trying to scare you, but for me, I will never risk another root canal

> putting me through what I've been through for the last five years. I

> feel for you as I know how expensive this stuff is. Dentists really

> seem to be pushing root canals, even as a preventive measure. My

> dentist is out of my insurance network, but the lower level of

> coverage is worth the peace of mind I have now. After my extraction 2

> weeks ago, I came down with a cold - the first one I've had in

> several years. I look at dental work a lot differently now.

>

> It's funny, I've been reading a lot about the harms of root canals

> over the past year, but I never had a clue that I had a bad one right

> inside of me.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Evely " <je@h...>

wrote:

> ~What I don't understand is why my other dentist was so anxious to

do root canal when there is no decay in that tooth.. it is just

fractured

Root canals bring in good money and are now done often as a

preventive measure rather than an absolutely necessary procedure. My

old dentist thought I needed one on one of my other teeth, but I

never ended up going back to him (thankfully). Shortly after this

(and after the other stuff set in) my TMJ took a turn for the worse

and my jaw completely dislocated requiring some minor surgery. So,

going to the dentist just wasn't on my list of things to do.

However, it's 5 years later now and I still don't need a root canal

on that tooth. My old dentist is a relative of my husband and I'm

sure his intentions were good, I just think it's the way conventional

dental practice has progressed. I'm 35, a few years older than you,

and I'm right about where my Mother was when she got her first

bridge. I get my bad teeth from her side. So far, I haven't inherited

the osteoporosis that she and my grandmother suffer/ed from. You're

too young to be going through all of this.

[Guest guest]

This isn't the same topic exactly. Was reading in Rolling Stone Magazine last

week that when Marie Presley was so sick after with what

was diagnosed as CFS by doctors across the country, that it turned out to be

mercury fillings. She finally went to a naturopath who diagnosed it, she had

them removed, and her symptoms went away almost immediately. Wasn't

but it made good print at the time. :-)

Wanita

At 06:34 PM 4/19/03 +0000, you wrote:

>I had a root canal and crown done on one of my teeth. About a month

>and a half later I developed FM, CFS and MCS and have been battling

>these things ever since. Although my chiroprator had asked if I had

>any dental work done, she never got specific about the root canal

>(don't know if she knew about the harm they can cause), so I never

>connected it as the source for my illnesses. Since it's been a few

>years, I actually forgot that I had it done. I remember the crown,

>but forgot about the root canal. In fact, when I filled out the

>questionnaire at my new dentist, I answered " no " to the question on

>root canals. My recent dental x-rays revealed that I did have a root

>canal done and have a serious infection in that root canal.

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , Wanita Sears <wanitawa@b...>

wrote:

>This isn't the same topic exactly. Was reading in Rolling Stone

>Magazine last week that when Marie Presley was so sick after

> with what was diagnosed as CFS by doctors across the

>country, that it turned out to be mercury fillings. She finally went

>to a naturopath who diagnosed it, she had them removed, and her

>symptoms went away almost immediately. Wasn't but it

>made good print at the time. :-)

> Wanita

Funny! I've been wanting to get rid of my old mercury fillings for a

long time. Now they're coming out just because I have to have crowns

and bridges put on those teeth. My dentist removed the mercury as

part of the prep work for this dental work. Yippee! All of it should

be gone in the next month or so. I'm hoping the taste of metal in my

mouth goes away.

[Guest guest]

Jen,

I strongly advise against the root canal.

After reading Meinig's book, I've been doing follow-up research.

Unfortunately, I can't get many articles I find abstracts of in full-

text, and most of the good ones are in German (?!), but from

abstracts and a couple full-texts I've seen, the data seems at worst

to reluctantly support Meinig's thesis.

Since you've had so many problems, you are all the more likely to

suffer from a focal infection from a root canal.

I have an appointment on June 23 with the closest dentist I could

find that follows the extraction protocol to talk about having my two

root canals removed. I am 99.99999999% sure my eczema is due to my

root canals, not to mention my chronic conjunctivitis and

periodontitis. The first two I know to have originated within 1-2

weeks of my root canal. My eczema has gotten so bad that it spread

from my wrists to my entire arms, from my fingers to half-way up my

upper arms. A patch developed on my ear before I started Russ

Newman's candida protocol, and disappeared shortly after the

protocol. However, I never made significant progress with the rest

of my eczema-- some progress, but certainly not gone. Since I've

been off the protocol, patches have appeared on my legs! I just

started taking colostrum from RL, and so far it seems very

promising. Everyone has been saying it looks a lot better. One day

I only got 4 hours sleep and it got noticably worse. All this points

to immune dysfunction. It started within a week of my first root

canal... put 2 and 2 together.

I developed chronic conjunctivitis within a week or two of my root

canal. 4 tbsp coconut oil would suppress it, but when I would slack

on the CO it would come back. This happened for several months.

Then I started eating raw meat-- half pound of raw grass-fed buffalo

swiss steak a week. This boosted my immune system enough that I

could go w/o coconut oil for a while and I would not develop

conjunctivitis. However, during Lent I've been not eating meat

except fish and therefore haven't had my raw meat for over a month,

and I've developed conjunctivitis TWICE since not eating meat! (it

had been gone for like 6 months) The first time I beat it off my

dropping lots of colloidal silver/MSM in my eye. This time (current)

I'm out of MSM but put some CS in it and stepped up my CO and it

looks like it's going away.

You've been through a lot more than I had been through, therefore I

would think your system a very unlikely candidate for being able to

suppress a focal infection.

I would NOT get a root canal.

Good luck,

Chris

p.s. if you want to respond to this, cc it to my private address as I

do not get a chance to check the list every day.

--- In , " Evely " <je@h...>

wrote:

> I need help making a decision regarding toothwork. I have already

had 2

> teeth extracted and now have partial dentures (both upper and

lower) ~the

> problem is the lower partial fit wrong and ended up fracturing the

tooth it

> was clasped next to it

> I also have osteoporosis so I'm thinking the integrity of my bones

is not so

> good thus fracture easily I don't know... at any rate, I saw the

dentist

> yesterday

> (a different dentist than I saw last time) because I have

> managed care.. HMO type thing so each time I go in I have a

different

> dentist.. anyway, my dentist last time told me I would need a crown

which is

> $750 and my insurance won't cover it unless you choose stainless

steel which

> food can get under there then you have decay etc...

> This dentist said if I couldn't afford the crown (porcelain) then

he could

> just take out my old filling and put in another filling and see if

that

> helps etc

> anyway, the dentist I saw yesterday said something entirely

different...

> this

> dentist said " We can start you on a root canal today "

> I said no because I wanted to think about it. I said that my other

dentist

> never said anything about having a root canal done and that I

wanted to take

> the most conservative approach for that day despite how much pain I

was in

> so they went ahead and did a " sedation filling "

> -Dentist said from xray there is no sign of decay infection of pulp

etc

> the tooth has fracture line.

> I am familiar with Meinig's book " Root Canal Cover-Up "

> where the root canal tooth when extracted was ground up and

injected into a

> healthy rabbit.. and then the rabbit would promptly develop all of

the same

> diseases and die

> -these experiments done not just once... but dozens of times and

with

> identical results you can't help but think more on this subject...

> Anyway, any thoughts/comments/help on this subject would be helpful

to me

> right now

> thanks

>

> jen

>

>

>

>

> " And we have made of ourselves living cesspools, and driven doctors

to

> invent names for our diseases. " Plato

[Guest guest]

This post couldn't be more timely for me as I sit here in root canal agony! I

recently (last

summer) had two root canals done. Both were with biocalex. One was a 're-do'

of an older,

traditional type root canal. The other tooth had an infection in the root that

showed up on an

x-ray. The tooth that had the infection is now giving me a great deal of grief.

I know the

infection is back because my jaw is aching in that particular spot. I have

recently read that if

the root is infected to begin with, there is a very minimal chance that root

canal surgery will

be successful. This has been my experience. I've had two root canals that,

after being done

and redone by endodontists, eventually had to be pulled. I'm a root canal

flunkie...

Tara

>

> Can I have some opinions on root canals.