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Hi Bill

Canada has a system that has 3 levels of Paramedics. Primary Care Paramedic,

Advanced Care Paramedic and Critical Care Paramedic. To become a Primary Care

Paramedic takes 2 years, another year or so for advanced care and around 6

months for critical care. There is no paramedic in the world that is trained as

high as Canadian Critical Care Paramedic. A National Registered Paramedic out of

the US would be considered equivelent to an Advanced Care Paramedic. I'm a

Critical Care Paramedic and perform advanced skills such as pericardiocentesis,

chest tubes, insert central lines, do arterial blood gases, etc. And our

knowledge level is very indept. The critical care level is also higher then the

CCEMT.P level out of the US. These levels have been implemented by the Canadian

Medical Association (CMA) and Paramedic Association of Canada (PAC) and are used

in pretty much most of our provinces and territories.

I hope that answers your question. I added some extra info as well, so you are

more aware of the Canadian EMS system.

Best regards,

R2D2, CCP

<bxtaylor2@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

I'm sure won't mind me sticking my nose in!

The UK Offshore Medics course would be really good for you, if you

pick the right one!. The standard does vary considerably.My advice

is ask about on the forum and pick the most challenging to get the

greatest benefit. Given your background I suspect you would have no

problem with the pre-selection criteria.

I think you'll find the course is not recognised outside UK waters

per se but may well credit to other international qualifications.

Cheers

Buck T

> > > Hi bill

> > > Most if not all of us whom work offhsore and on

> > remote sites

> > function at a

> > > level above " paramedic " as it what a paramedic

> > does ona ambulance

> > we all

> > > tend to have very liberal protocals and routinely

> > provide primary

> > care to

> > > our patient load. such as antibodics, dental care,

> > basicly the

> > same stuff

> > > that your aver GP sees in his office. We also dela

> > with other

> > issues a

> > > paramedic never deals with...health and hygenie.

> > occ heath issues

> > and a pile

> > > of other crap. Ranging form inventory to advisng

> > the client on

> > equipment,

> > > training ERT teams etc;

> > > If I remenber correctly EMT 3 is basicly trauma

> > related or should

> > I say

> > > orientated. So the issues of cardiac and the like

> > are out of thier

> > scope.

> > > Would submit that any remote site needs staff at

> > the very least

> > staff by

> > > paramedics ( or as in the case of some of our

> > fellow providers on

> > the list)

> > > staff with ED, ICU nursing background) this is a

> > profession where

> > paramedic

> > > is where your start.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Tom g

> > > Sakhalin island

> > >

> > > >From: Bill Witmer <billemtp2000@y...>

> > > >Reply-

> > > >

> > > >Subject: question for group

> > > >Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:55:36 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >-I have a question I know this is not an American

> > > >group per SE but what is the level of care most

> > of the places you

> > > >work at? Like I work at a remote Gold Mine here

> > in Alaska and it is

> > > >currently a Paramedic level care but they feel

> > that EMT3 level care

> > > >is good enough so I am trying to put together a

> > argument that

> > > >standard of care is Paramedic care or higher is

> > > >standard. But I need proof, this is a Canadian

> > based

> > > >company that I work for and so maybe I am wrong.

> > Is

> > > >Canada rated at Paramedic or do they have a

> > different

> > > >system..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >thanks

> > > >

> > > >Bill Witmer

> > > >NREMTP, RT

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

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--- Reuben Driedger <ems_ccpm@...> wrote:

> Hi Bill

>

> To become a Primary Care Paramedic takes 2 years,

.... in ONTARIO

It takes a year or less in the other provinces

> There is no paramedic in the world that is trained as

> high as Canadian Critical Care Paramedic.

Indeed

But alas

You would be only talking about the BC and Ontario CCPs

They are pretty much inexistant in the other provinces

(Nova Scotia ?)

> And our knowledge level is very indept. The

> critical care level is also higher then the CCEMT.P level

> out of the US.

True

(9th UMBC CCEMT-P class)

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Hi there

That may be something us South African National diploma Emergency

medical care paramedics could have a discussion about - some of us are

also trained in advance medical rescue as well!

Cheers

Sue

Re: Re: Canadian EMS

--- Reuben Driedger <ems_ccpm@...> wrote:

> Hi Bill

>

> To become a Primary Care Paramedic takes 2 years,

.... in ONTARIO

It takes a year or less in the other provinces

> There is no paramedic in the world that is trained as

> high as Canadian Critical Care Paramedic.

Indeed

But alas

You would be only talking about the BC and Ontario CCPs

They are pretty much inexistant in the other provinces

(Nova Scotia ?)

> And our knowledge level is very indept. The

> critical care level is also higher then the CCEMT.P level

> out of the US.

True

(9th UMBC CCEMT-P class)

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> Thanks Sue I agree with you!! Hannes N.dip EMC

> That may be something us South African National diploma Emergency

> medical care paramedics could have a discussion about - some of us are

> also trained in advance medical rescue as well!

> Cheers

> Sue

>

> Re: Re: Canadian EMS

>

> --- Reuben Driedger wrote:

> > Hi Bill

> >

>

> > To become a Primary Care Paramedic takes 2 years,

>

> ... in ONTARIO

>

> It takes a year or less in the other provinces

>

> > There is no paramedic in the world that is trained as

> > high as Canadian Critical Care Paramedic.

>

> Indeed

> But alas

> You would be only talking about the BC and Ontario CCPs

>

> They are pretty much inexistant in the other provinces

> (Nova Scotia ?)

>

> > And our knowledge level is very indept. The

> > critical care level is also higher then the CCEMT.P level

> > out of the US.

>

> True

>

> (9th UMBC CCEMT-P class)

>

>

> Member Information:

>

> List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@...

> Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@...

>

> ALL list admin messages (subscriptions & amp; unsubscriptions) should be

> sent

> to the list owner.

>

> Post message: egroups

>

> Please visit our website http://www.remotemedics.co.uk

>

> Regards

>

> The Remote Medics Team

>

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