Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Yes- relating to nerve damage, but the manifestation of paralysis was not mentioned. Diabetes Forecast March 2006 had a short segment inthe Diabetes Advisor section, p. 41, entitled "Weight loss Surgery Sometimes Injures Nerves" concluding malnutrition may be a major cause and if so vitamin and mineral supplements may help preserve nerves. A study is cited in "Neurology" 2004, saying people with neuropathy were more likely to have lost more weight, lost weight faster, lower serum levels of albumin and transferrin, had jejunoileal bypass surgery, had long term nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and other gut symptoms after surgery, had complication after surgery requiring rehospitalization, received less vitamin and calcium supplementation and did not attend a nutrition clinic after surgery. BUT the study did not identify one deficiency as a cause and said each person had to be evaluated individually to determine what vitamins and minerals may be lacking. Good luck, Seiden, MS, RD, CDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Chang et al. Acute post-gastric reduction surgery (APGARS) neuropathy. Obesity Surgery. 14(2):182-9, 2004 Feb May be of help- don't have the full article so do not know how useful it will be but I think you are on the right track with the thiamin and Vit B12 anyway. -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Nazy ZarshenasSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Paralysis Hi everyone, I have a patient admitted post op with peripheral specially leg paralysis. Neuro and Neuro Sx team have been seeing him. But he has been non compliant with his multi vit and also dietary advice given so I think it could be thiamine or B12 deficiency. Thiamin and multivit have been supplemented. B12 and folate are above normal levels. Has anyone seen such cases? Any other thoughts will be appreciated. I was wondering what biochemistry tests do you do pre op? how often do you repeat them post op? Thanks Nazy [ Yeo] -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Laschkwitsch, :LPH Obes InstSent: Friday, 30 December 2005 8:01 Subject: RE: Elevated B12 and B6 in 12 month post-op RNY This is just my opinion but I would not worry about high levels too much. I see this pre-op as well, we test folate, B12, Vit D and iron pre surgery and for those taking MVI, B complex or other supplements I often see elevated levels. I always show patients their labs and review what they are taking to see if we could make some adjustments. From multiple checks on toxicity (mostly via biochemistry and nutrition textbooks) there is not any real risks with the water soluble vitamins. I would agree with your surgeon that they should just cut back on supplements and then the next time that their labs are drawn have them not take any supplements the day of the test. You can always increase supplements again if needed. Just my 2 cents. Laschkewitsch RD LDDietitian, Legacy Obesity Institute(503) 413-8135 -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of melissa mcinerneySent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Elevated B12 and B6 in 12 month post-op RNY I am finding this to be a problem as well. Any feed back would be great! Townsend RD,LN Surgical Institute Sioux Falls, SD 57015 Elevated B12 and B6 in 12 month post-op RNYI have a pt.with recent labs as follows: Plasma B6- 117 (normal range-3.3-26.0) Serum B12- 1393 (normal range- 200-1100) Folate- > 24.0 - WNL H & H- 14.1/41.5 - WNLPatient takes daily MVI, weekly Nascobal (B12). I have been trying to research elevated levels of B12/B6 without success. No upper limit toxicity noted. However, I'm concerned th! at these levels may indicate some other problem in the pathways- My surgeon wants to cut back on pt's B12 supplement. I don't think that's the problem. Anyone have any ideas on this? Thanks, in advance, for the input. Lynne Kurzweil, RDCenter for Advanced Bariatric SurgeryMountainside HospitalMontclair, NJ IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should contact the sender and delete the message. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. SOUTH EASTERN SYDNEY AND ILLAWARRA AREA HEALTH SERVICE CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICENB: *** Due to an organisational amalgamation, email addresses for recipients in this organisation have changed. Please update your contacts list with the details of the email addresses contained within.This email, and the files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not permitted to distribute or use this email or any of its attachments in any way. We also request that you advise the sender of the incorrect addressing.This email message has been virus-scanned. Although no computer viruses were detected, South Eastern Sydney and Illawarra Area Health Service accept no liability for any consequential damage resulting from email containing any computer viruses. IMPORTANT NOTICE: This communication, including any attachment, contains information that may be confidential or privileged, and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should contact the sender and delete the message. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is intended to be a legally binding signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Thanks all for your great feedback Regards Nazy Re: Elevated B12 and B6 in 12 month post-op RNY > > > I am finding this to be a problem as well. Any feed back would be great! > > Townsend RD,LN > Surgical Institute > Sioux Falls, SD 57015 > > > Elevated B12 and B6 in 12 month post-op RNY > > I have a pt.with recent labs as follows: > Plasma B6- 117 (normal range-3.3-26.0) > Serum B12- 1393 (normal range- 200-1100) > Folate- > 24.0 - WNL > H & H- 14.1/41.5 - WNL > Patient takes daily MVI, weekly Nascobal (B12). I have been trying to > research elevated levels of B12/B6 without success. No upper limit > toxicity noted. However, I'm concerned th! at these levels may indicate > some other problem in the pathways- > My surgeon wants to cut back on pt's B12 supplement. I don't think > that's the problem. > Anyone have any ideas on this? > > Thanks, in advance, for the input. > > Lynne Kurzweil, RD > Center for Advanced Bariatric Surgery > Mountainside Hospital > Montclair, NJ > > > > > > > _____ > > ! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group " <> " on the web. > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Its a home made version of the Rife machine.  The patient was already sick with fever..., Is ok now, after a week of rest, vitamins etc. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Paralysis To: Rife Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:03 AM What machine did you use? Have you ever suffered from this before treatment? Joe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Paralysis Upon application of 1248-1250 hz to the hand, both the hand and leg (same side) feel nearly paralyzed.  Anyone please advise..  Steve  ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Its a home made version of the Rife machine.  The patient was already sick with fever..., Is ok now, after a week of rest, vitamins etc. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Paralysis To: Rife Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:03 AM What machine did you use? Have you ever suffered from this before treatment? Joe Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Paralysis Upon application of 1248-1250 hz to the hand, both the hand and leg (same side) feel nearly paralyzed.  Anyone please advise..  Steve  ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Is there a chance the patient has lyme or co-infections. If the home made rife machine is a doug coil, they are very effective against lyme. If the bacteria is in the brain and becomes inflammed after rifing paralysis (often one sided) can result (or worsen if it already exists) from the inflammation. It can be scary but usually is a sign the bacteria is dying and relief follows. But I would be very cautious. I understand how scary paralysis and parasthesis can be. > > > Subject: Re: Paralysis > To: Rife > Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:03 AM > > What machine did you use? > > Have you ever suffered from this before treatment? > > Joe > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Paralysis > > > Upon application of 1248-1250 hz to the hand, both the hand and leg (same side) > feel nearly paralyzed. > Â > Anyone please advise.. > Â > Steve > Â > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Is there a chance the patient has lyme or co-infections. If the home made rife machine is a doug coil, they are very effective against lyme. If the bacteria is in the brain and becomes inflammed after rifing paralysis (often one sided) can result (or worsen if it already exists) from the inflammation. It can be scary but usually is a sign the bacteria is dying and relief follows. But I would be very cautious. I understand how scary paralysis and parasthesis can be. > > > Subject: Re: Paralysis > To: Rife > Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 4:03 AM > > What machine did you use? > > Have you ever suffered from this before treatment? > > Joe > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Paralysis > > > Upon application of 1248-1250 hz to the hand, both the hand and leg (same side) > feel nearly paralyzed. > Â > Anyone please advise.. > Â > Steve > Â > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I have a question in mind, stroke is the only intracranial cause of facial paralysis, all others bells palsy, malkerson-rosenthal synd, ramsay-hunt syndr etc are extra cranial right? Please correct me if im wrong Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: "hossain.sabreena" <hossain.sabreena@...>Date: 21 December 2011 18:31:07 GMT Subject: ParalysisI have a question in mind, stroke is the only intracranial cause of facial paralysis, all others bells palsy, malkerson-rosenthal synd, ramsay-hunt syndr etc are extra cranial right? Please correct me if im wrongSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 i think if facial nerve is damaged by trauma or certain tumors of salivary (parotid in this case) gland can involve this nerve. What is your opinion > > I have a question in mind, stroke is the only intracranial cause of facial paralysis, all others bells palsy, malkerson-rosenthal synd, ramsay-hunt syndr etc are extra cranial right? Please correct me if im wrong > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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