Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 >First of all, I'd like to thank you for looking into this matter. >This interests me very much. Love to hear any other info you have! >As far as I know, cortisol release pattern also depends on >hypothalamus sensitivity. Similar to cells' being insensitive to >insulin (insulin resistance), hypothalamus can become increasingly >insensitive to cortisol level in the blood. Interesting. One of the articles I read recommended stress management for hypoglycemia (So the hypoglycemic can get away with more in the diet!). I'd expect the usual " destressors " like yoga and exercise would help too. I've noticed that my head clears instantly when I work out with weights. Which kind of makes sense: if cortisol breaks down muscles, and your body wants to build muscle because you are working it hard, then your body should release some cortisol-suppressing hormone while it is building muscle. Ginkgo is supposed to help with cortisol -- as a blocker I think, not a sensitizer. The idea of the hypothalmus getting less sensitive is interesting, it would make sense then that people make too much as they age. I knew a little bit about cortisol in terms of general stress, but did not know that blood sugar drops were such a stress on the body! Heidi S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 In Safe Uses of Cortisol by Willam Mck. Jefferies MD, he associates funcitonal hypoglycemia with low adrenal reserve and treats it with low dose cortisol. Worked for me. Irene At 01:07 PM 4/26/03, you wrote: > >First of all, I'd like to thank you for looking into this matter. > >This interests me very much. > >Love to hear any other info you have! > > >As far as I know, cortisol release pattern also depends on > >hypothalamus sensitivity. Similar to cells' being insensitive to > >insulin (insulin resistance), hypothalamus can become increasingly > >insensitive to cortisol level in the blood. > >Interesting. One of the articles I read recommended stress management >for hypoglycemia (So the hypoglycemic can get away with more >in the diet!). I'd expect the usual " destressors " like yoga and >exercise would help too. I've noticed that my head clears instantly >when I work out with weights. Which kind of makes sense: if cortisol >breaks down muscles, and your body wants to build muscle because >you are working it hard, then your body should release some >cortisol-suppressing hormone while it is building muscle. > >Ginkgo is supposed to help with cortisol -- as a blocker I think, >not a sensitizer. The idea of the hypothalmus getting less sensitive >is interesting, it would make sense then that people make too >much as they age. I knew a little bit about cortisol in terms of >general stress, but did not know that blood sugar drops >were such a stress on the body! > > > >Heidi S > > > > >Sponsor<http://rd./M=249675.3194318.4504037.2014081/D=egroupweb/S=1705\ 060950:HM/A=1554309/R=0/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?camp=654 & linei\ d=3194318 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Heidi Schuppenhauer wrote: > Ginkgo is supposed to help with cortisol -- as a blocker I think, > not a sensitizer. The idea of the hypothalmus getting less sensitive > is interesting, it would make sense then that people make too > much as they age. I knew a little bit about cortisol in terms of > general stress, but did not know that blood sugar drops > were such a stress on the body! > > Heidi S I remember hearing or reading somewhere that sugar imbalance is a major stressor on the body. Maybe it was from the same endocrinologist I've mentioned. We must understand and remember that stress is not only when we worry about something, but it's everything our body has to do, physiologically. Here's an interesting quote that makes analogy to insulin resistance and diabetes: " Dilman also described an age-related syndrome which he named (8) 'Hyperadaptosis.' Hyperadaptosis is also sometimes known as adrenal maladaptation syndrome, or even 'adrenal burnout.' Hyperadaptosis results from cortisol resistance and hypercortisolemia. Hyperadaptosis is, to the adaptive homeostat (hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal axis), what diabetes is to the more complex energy homeostat. " [http://www.vrp.com/articles/758.asp] VRP has published lots of interesting articles: - Hypothalamus & Cell sensitizers (Anti-Aging): http://www.vrp.com/golib.asp?c=1051400061206 & h=22 & k=/articlesearch.asp & m=/vstyle\ ..css - Other categories: http://www.vrp.com/articlesearch.asp?c=1051400061206 & k=/index.asp & m=/vstyle.css BTW, Phosphatidylserine (PS) is another cortisol blocker, and it's known to be effective for improving mental performance. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Irene Musiol wrote: > > In Safe Uses of Cortisol by Willam Mck. Jefferies MD, he associates > funcitonal hypoglycemia with low adrenal reserve and treats it with low > dose cortisol. Worked for me. > Irene Did the results last? Did your adrenals restore? I'm not sure this approach addresses the root cause, which I believe is stored stress, which I understand to be hypothalamus resistance to stress hormones (or maybe to just cortisol). It's similar to treating exhausted pancreas with insulin shots. While it may be necessary short-term to deal with stress, it doesn't seem to address what has lead to the exhaustion. BTW, WAPF has an article about using adrenal cortex extract to treat symptoms of adrenal cortex insufficiency. " This treatment was found to be very effective for reversing hypoglycemia, chronic fatigue, alcoholism, allergies, arthritis and certain types of schizophrenia. " [http://www.westonaprice.org/archive/archive_britton.html] Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Well I am still on low dose cortisol but I have dropped my dosage a bit. It still helps my symptoms. It doesn't address why the adrenals don't function in the first place of course. But lack of sufficient cortisol seemed to be my problem rather than too much cortisol. My Doctor said that she has had some patients after several years no longer need the cortisol supplements. The theory is that the exogenous cortisol relieve pressure on the adrenals to perform so they can recover. You also of course need to address underlying issues whatever they may be. Dr Mck Jefferies doesn't address that but some Doctors seem to feel candadiasis damages the adrenals. I was just commenting on the question of whether too much cortisol or too little cortisol causes the hypoglycermia. In my case it was too little.\ Irene At 04:59 PM 4/26/03, you wrote: >Irene Musiol wrote: > > > > In Safe Uses of Cortisol by Willam Mck. Jefferies MD, he associates > > funcitonal hypoglycemia with low adrenal reserve and treats it with low > > dose cortisol. Worked for me. > > Irene > >Did the results last? Did your adrenals restore? I'm not sure this >approach addresses the root cause, which I believe is stored stress, >which I understand to be hypothalamus resistance to stress hormones (or >maybe to just cortisol). It's similar to treating exhausted pancreas >with insulin shots. While it may be necessary short-term to deal with >stress, it doesn't seem to address what has lead to the exhaustion. > >BTW, WAPF has an article about using adrenal cortex extract to treat >symptoms of adrenal cortex insufficiency. " This treatment was found to >be very effective for reversing hypoglycemia, chronic fatigue, >alcoholism, allergies, arthritis and certain types of schizophrenia. " >[<http://www.westonaprice.org/archive/archive_britton.html]>http://www.westonap\ rice.org/archive/archive_britton.html] > >Roman > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Irene, you wrote <<<some Doctors seem to feel candadiasis damages the adrenals>>> do you have more info. re this connection or any links on the subject? TIA Dedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 > OK, I did a little more checking and cortisol depresses serotonin levels ... and is very much a part of depression. Anyway, some bright spark has actually written a book on it that looks *quite good* (I just ordered it) and he seems to have picked up on everything I've found out so far (protein with meals, exercise, green tea). See: http://cortisolconnection.com/faqs.php So, you eat a food you have problems with, you get cortisol. But you can also get it from umpteen other things, and the regulation of it can get out of kilter. The book seems to concentrate on " the stress of modern life " but I agree that diet can be a stessor on it's own. In my case, my life is truly not stressful. I don't really think paleo life was non-stressful either -- tribes had a lot of inter-tribe warfare, they got killed in traumatic episodes a lot (either by animals or fights). But it was a kind of stress that humans can handle, I guess. As far as blood sugar testing, it seems that " traditional foods " just don't raise blood sugar much. I had some chicken broth with nice fat dumplings and not much chicken -- blood sugar rose to 107 (hour 1) then dropped to 85 (hour 2). Which is more of a curve than I got for roast lamb with vegies and cranberry sauce (BS at 91 after first hour). Neither meal had kimchi, to be fair. So the more protein with a meal, the flatter the curve. I'm guessing the amount of fat matters too, but the cookies certainly had plenty of fat (and also a ton of sugar, and hardly any protein: there I got up to 140 after an hour). Which is really interesting -- those people who lived pre-modern-era could eat their carbs (as dumplings and such with a meal) and probably didn't get high-blood sugar much until the era of easily-available between-meal high-sugar snacks. Heidi S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 >Doctors seem to feel candadiasis damages the adrenals. I was >just commenting on the question of whether too much cortisol or too little >cortisol causes the hypoglycermia. In my case it was too little. Maybe -- but it isn't very simple when it comes to hormones. It seems that exercise that causes cortisol to be produced is really useful for preventing hypoglycemia (and other types of stress responses). The thought is that the body learns to handle it better, or something, because of the cortisol produced during exercise. It could be supplements do something similar -- mitigate the response. The reason too much might be produced after eating high-carb food might be a feedback mechanism (as was mentioned earlier). Heidi S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 I will have to search for that. I think it came out of one of my Candida books. I will post it when I find it. Irene At 09:55 PM 4/26/03, you wrote: >Irene, >you wrote ><<<some Doctors seem to feel candadiasis damages the adrenals>>> >do you have more info. re this connection or any links on the subject? > >TIA > >Dedy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 > I see. That makes sense. > > Dr. Stoll believes that candidiasis is a consequence of LGS (leaky > gut syndrome), which is a result of chronic stress and bracing. But it is possible to suffer from candidiasis from other causes too. I don't suffer from LGS or chronic stress (what's bracing?) but have candidiasis. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Jo here are some of the causitive factors in the proliferation of systemic candida/parasite infestations. Factors increasing the proliferation of fungal infections... * Overuse of drugs/antibiotics * Too much sugar, candies/sodas of all types, chemicals in food * Birth Control Pills * HRT / Hormone Replacement Therapy * Alcohol, beer, wine, * Tap water (chlorine) * Poor diet, too much carbohydrates, which turns into 'blood alcohol' * Cortisone, cortisone like drugs, Prednisone * Immunosuppressant drugs used in cancer therapy, radiation * Chewing tobacco * Antacids * Poor hygiene * Sexually transmitted In women excessive douching may also precipitate vaginal candidiasis. Bubble bath solutions are also a culprit, since they contain chemicals which damage the delicate vaginal membranes and alter the vaginal pH. Girls / women of all ages, should never use bubble bath in the tub. Actually Candida can mimic over 80 different diseases that you really don't have. Drs. are the primary cause of candida infestation, because of the overuse of prescribed drugs/antibiotics. And a dr will look down your throat, see that you have a white/yellow coating on your tongue, never say anything to you about it, because he knows that if he does he will not be able to sell you anymore drugs. I specialize in permanent candida removal. Russ http://www.naturalhealingsolutions.com > > I see. That makes sense. > > > > Dr. Stoll believes that candidiasis is a consequence of LGS (leaky > > gut syndrome), which is a result of chronic stress and bracing. > > But it is possible to suffer from candidiasis from other causes too. > I don't suffer from LGS or chronic stress (what's bracing?) but have > candidiasis. > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 I am sure you are right that the exersise that causes cortisol to be produced is really hellpful for hypoglycermia, but in my case my adrenals were unable to produce the cortisol. At 11:04 PM 4/26/03, you wrote: > >Doctors seem to feel candadiasis damages the adrenals. I was > >just commenting on the question of whether too much cortisol or too little > >cortisol causes the hypoglycermia. In my case it was too little. > >Maybe -- but it isn't very simple when it comes to hormones. It seems that >exercise that causes cortisol to be produced is really useful for >preventing hypoglycemia (and other types of stress responses). The thought >is that the body learns to handle it better, or something, because of the >cortisol produced during exercise. It could be supplements do something >similar -- mitigate the response. The reason too much might be produced >after eating high-carb food might be a feedback mechanism (as was mentioned >earlier). > > >Heidi S > > > > >Sponsor<http://rd./M=249982.3179269.4495679.2595810/D=egroupweb/S=1705\ 060950:HM/A=1524963/R=0/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?camp=556 & linei\ d=3179269 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Irene, in women the candida infects the thyroid, adrenals, and all your female organs, thus, causing a great deal of fatigue, brain fog, depression, PMS, and a host of other symptoms. Drs are clueless about candida, and will never admit that fungi, mold, parasites cause anykind of health problems, when in fact they cause severe health problems. Russ > > > >Doctors seem to feel candadiasis damages the adrenals. I was > > >just commenting on the question of whether too much cortisol or too little > > >cortisol causes the hypoglycermia. In my case it was too little. > > > >Maybe -- but it isn't very simple when it comes to hormones. It seems that > >exercise that causes cortisol to be produced is really useful for > >preventing hypoglycemia (and other types of stress responses). The thought > >is that the body learns to handle it better, or something, because of the > >cortisol produced during exercise. It could be supplements do something > >similar -- mitigate the response. The reason too much might be produced > >after eating high-carb food might be a feedback mechanism (as was mentioned > >earlier). > > > > > >Heidi S > > > > > > > > > >Sponsor<http://rd./M=249982.3179269.4495679.2595810/D=egroupweb/S=1705\ 060950:HM/A=1524963/R=0/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?camp=556 & linei\ d=3179269 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Russ, none of the factors you mentioned are relevant in my case yet I still have recurrent flare-ups of candida, even at times when I don't feel ANY symptoms yet the tests are positive!!! any ideas? TIA Dedy Re: Hypoglycemia/cortisol summary Jo here are some of the causitive factors in the proliferation of systemic candida/parasite infestations. Factors increasing the proliferation of fungal infections... * Overuse of drugs/antibiotics * Too much sugar, candies/sodas of all types, chemicals in food * Birth Control Pills * HRT / Hormone Replacement Therapy * Alcohol, beer, wine, * Tap water (chlorine) * Poor diet, too much carbohydrates, which turns into 'blood alcohol' * Cortisone, cortisone like drugs, Prednisone * Immunosuppressant drugs used in cancer therapy, radiation * Chewing tobacco * Antacids * Poor hygiene * Sexually transmitted In women excessive douching may also precipitate vaginal candidiasis. Bubble bath solutions are also a culprit, since they contain chemicals which damage the delicate vaginal membranes and alter the vaginal pH. Girls / women of all ages, should never use bubble bath in the tub. Actually Candida can mimic over 80 different diseases that you really don't have. Drs. are the primary cause of candida infestation, because of the overuse of prescribed drugs/antibiotics. And a dr will look down your throat, see that you have a white/yellow coating on your tongue, never say anything to you about it, because he knows that if he does he will not be able to sell you anymore drugs. I specialize in permanent candida removal. Russ http://www.naturalhealingsolutions.com > > I see. That makes sense. > > > > Dr. Stoll believes that candidiasis is a consequence of LGS (leaky > > gut syndrome), which is a result of chronic stress and bracing. > > But it is possible to suffer from candidiasis from other causes too. > I don't suffer from LGS or chronic stress (what's bracing?) but have > candidiasis. > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Yes this has been my experience. Luckily I have an MD that understands this relationship. At 09:15 AM 4/27/03, you wrote: >Irene, in women the candida infects the thyroid, adrenals, and all >your female organs, thus, causing a great deal of fatigue, brain fog, >depression, PMS, and a host of other symptoms. Drs are clueless about >candida, and will never admit that fungi, mold, parasites cause >anykind of health problems, when in fact they cause severe health >problems. >Russ > > > > > > > >Doctors seem to feel candadiasis damages the adrenals. I was > > > >just commenting on the question of whether too much cortisol or >too little > > > >cortisol causes the hypoglycermia. In my case it was too little. > > > > > >Maybe -- but it isn't very simple when it comes to hormones. It >seems that > > >exercise that causes cortisol to be produced is really useful for > > >preventing hypoglycemia (and other types of stress responses). The >thought > > >is that the body learns to handle it better, or something, because >of the > > >cortisol produced during exercise. It could be supplements do something > > >similar -- mitigate the response. The reason too much might be produced > > >after eating high-carb food might be a feedback mechanism (as was >mentioned > > >earlier). > > > > > > > > >Heidi S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sponsor<<http://rd./M=249982.3179269.4495679.2595810/D=egroupweb > /S=1705060950:HM/A=1524963/R=0/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?camp=55\ 6 & lineid=3179269 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM>http://rd./M=249982.3179269.4495\ 679.2595810/D=egroupweb/S=1705060950:HM/A=1524963/R=0/*http://hits.411web.com/cg\ i-bin/autoredir?camp=556 & lineid=3179269 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 I understand that mercury from amalgam fillings can also be a factor. Irene At 07:54 AM 4/27/03, you wrote: >Jo here are some of the causitive factors in the proliferation of >systemic candida/parasite infestations. > >Factors increasing the proliferation of fungal infections... > > > * Overuse of drugs/antibiotics > > * Too much sugar, candies/sodas of all types, chemicals in food > > * Birth Control Pills > > * HRT / Hormone Replacement Therapy > > * Alcohol, beer, wine, > > * Tap water (chlorine) > > * Poor diet, too much carbohydrates, which turns into 'blood >alcohol' > > * Cortisone, cortisone like drugs, Prednisone > > * Immunosuppressant drugs used in cancer therapy, radiation > > * Chewing tobacco > > * Antacids > > * Poor hygiene > > * Sexually transmitted > > >In women excessive douching may also precipitate vaginal candidiasis. > Bubble bath solutions are also a culprit, since they contain >chemicals which damage the delicate vaginal membranes and alter the >vaginal pH. Girls / women of all ages, should never use bubble bath >in the tub. > >Actually Candida can mimic over 80 different diseases that you really >don't have. Drs. are the primary cause of candida infestation, because >of the overuse of prescribed drugs/antibiotics. And a dr will look >down your throat, see that you have a white/yellow coating on your >tongue, never say anything to you about it, because he knows that if >he does he will not be able to sell you anymore drugs. > >I specialize in permanent candida removal. > >Russ ><http://www.naturalhealingsolutions.com>http://www.naturalhealingsolutions.com > > > > > > > > > > I see. That makes sense. > > > > > > Dr. Stoll believes that candidiasis is a consequence of LGS (leaky > > > gut syndrome), which is a result of chronic stress and bracing. > > > > But it is possible to suffer from candidiasis from other causes too. > > I don't suffer from LGS or chronic stress (what's bracing?) but have > > candidiasis. > > > > Jo > > > >Sponsor<http://rd./M=249675.3194318.4504037.2014081/D=egroupweb/S=1705\ 060950:HM/A=1554309/R=0/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?camp=654 & linei\ d=3194318 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Heidi Schuppenhauer wrote: > > I don't really think paleo life was > non-stressful either -- tribes had a lot of inter-tribe warfare, they got > killed in traumatic episodes a lot (either by animals or fights). But it > was a kind of stress that humans can handle, I guess. Here's an explanation that some people give. There's a difference between paleo people and animals (who also " fight " a lot) and us, modern folks. When you run for a prey or from a predator, you get into a flight or fight (FOF) state, get the job done, forget about it, and your hormones and the whole physiology normalizes. FOF is usually followed by an action. We, other the other hand, tend to create problems and like to " chew on them " for a long time. Some (probably many) do that all their free time. And when they are not doing that, they are watching or listening to news. So, we have much more stress than paleo people did. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 jopollack2001 wrote: > > > > I see. That makes sense. > > > > Dr. Stoll believes that candidiasis is a consequence of LGS (leaky > > gut syndrome), which is a result of chronic stress and bracing. > > But it is possible to suffer from candidiasis from other causes too. > I don't suffer from LGS or chronic stress (what's bracing?) but have > candidiasis. > > Jo How do you know you don't have LGS? Have you tested for it? How do you know you don't suffer from chronic stress? What is your understanding of it? Have you read the Dr. Stoll's article that explains modern understanding of stress? Bracing, in Dr. Stoll's terms, is contracting your muscles, which happens when you are in flight or fight state. If this occurs with GI tract chronically, restoration of it suffers. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 >. We, other the other hand, tend to create problems and like to > " chew on them " for a long time. Some (probably many) do that all their >free time. And when they are not doing that, they are watching or >listening to news. So, we have much more stress than paleo people did. I know we DO chew on these ideas a lot -- but I'm questioning, WHY do we do it? I question it mainly because, with my change in diet, most of the constant anxiety I was having is gone, gone, gone. Surely the news is no better than it was! I've read accounts of people living in " primitive " communities, and they marvelled at how things would go wrong, but the people would take them in stride. One lady told of how a group of tribal people was carrying a canoe up a mountain for several hours. They were not as strong as the westerners, who were also in the party, and kept bumping and almost dropping the canoe. Then they would laugh and make fun of each other. The westerners, on the other hand, would curse and get angry. The tribal folks were having FUN carrying the canoe, the westerners were working. To a large extent, " stress " is in the heart of the person experiencing it. Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Heidi Schuppenhauer wrote: > I know we DO chew on these ideas a lot -- but I'm questioning, WHY do we do > it? I question it mainly because, with my change in diet, most of the > constant anxiety I was having is gone, gone, gone. Surely the news is no > better than it was! I've read accounts of people living in " primitive " > communities, and they marvelled at how things would go wrong, but the > people would take them in stride. One lady told of how a group of tribal > people was carrying a canoe up a mountain for several hours. They were not > as strong as the westerners, who were also in the party, and kept bumping > and almost dropping the canoe. Then they would laugh and make fun of each > other. The westerners, on the other hand, would curse and get angry. The > tribal folks were having FUN carrying the canoe, the westerners were > working. To a large extent, " stress " is in the heart of the person > experiencing it. > > Heidi Yes, our attitude towards a would-be stressor is a key factor that determines how some stressors affect us. On the other hand, we don't seem to have much control over physiological stressors, e.g. sugar fluctuations. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 >Yes, our attitude towards a would-be stressor is a key factor that >determines how some stressors affect us. On the other hand, we don't >seem to have much control over physiological stressors, e.g. sugar >fluctuations. > >Roman Exactly. Very few people are able to just " control " their emotions -- though some disciplines, such as yoga, work really hard at it. But the yogini ALSO have a big huge discipline involving diet and exercise -- and yoga has a direct effect on cortisol. So we can't really control how our bodies react to sugar or exercise -- but we can choose what kinds of foods and exercise (and sleep patterns, and sunlight exposure) we get. Now if all that makes our bodies healthier, then I think (and have experienced) that the *same* stress causes a very different response in me. I suspect this is due to better hormone balance among other things (my basic philosophy on life hasn't changed drastically in the last 8 years). So it may be that the typical Indian brave who went into battle (and risked injury, and saw many gory and awful things happen) would experience a different reaction to stress while fueled on buffalo meat, than the average American who experiences a mildly stressful situation (a minor car accident, for example), while fueled on Coke and white bread. Many Americans end up with post-traumatic-stress syndrome for rather mild (by Indian standards) stressors. A lot of this probably also has to do with other de-stressors such as close family ties and reasonable amounts of sleep that the Indians got and Americans don't, and the more constant nature of some stressors (traffic), but you get the idea. (Sorry for being " politically incorrect " with using " Indians " . I've been reading about and lately, and their perceptions of Indian life, and the writer uses the terminology current at the time). Heidi S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 > How do you know you don't have LGS? Have you tested for it? I know I don't have a cold becuase I don't have any symptoms. In the same way, I know I dont' have LGS as I have no symptoms. > How do you know you don't suffer from chronic stress? I don't feel stressed. I did go through a period of suffering depression and stress badly, and now I past that phase and back to normal. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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