Re: cmp in grade II and III

August 16, 2010

I have grade IV CMP on the back of my patella, due to maltracking. My right

knee was treated with a Fulkerson osteotomy, which is a procedure where they

move the point of attachment for the patellar tendon on the tibia, and

Carticel Autologous Cartilage Implantation, which is a procedure where they

take a piece of healthy cartilage and grow more in a lab, then put it back

in the area where it's worn down to bone.

My surgery was very successful. Now my left knee is causing problems, and

I'm trying to decide whether to come up with the $70k for the surgery on my

own, or try and fight the insurance company (took 8 months to get approval

for the R knee and some 4 appeals) since there's been no procedures done on

my L knee yet, so insurance is not likely to approve it, no matter how hard

I fight.

I don't know what all the options are for grades II and III, I believe they

can try Synvisc or one of the other cushioning lubricant injections.

Good luck!

T.

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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:14 PM, caroltoth73 <caroltoth73@...> wrote:

>

> I can hardly believe I found this web site and I hope some you can give me

> some info. I have cmp in grade II-III there is nothing wrong with the

> ligaments or muscles or cartilage anywhere except from the back of the

> patella. I have seen 2 surgeons and they don't want to do surgery and would

> not really tell me anything. Is this rare? I have pain not only in the knee

> itself but radiating up and down from the knee. I can find alot of info on

> just cmp but almost zip when it's in the later stages. This is changing my

> life and my job and even my own self concept and I can not find anyone that

> has this paticular problem. I relly need some info. What is the future of

> this? Has anyone went to grade 4? Then do they do surgery? What surgery? Can

> anyone shed some light on this?

>

August 16, 2010

When I was first diagnosed it was stage 4 in both knees although I was not told

it was cmp until almost year later and I requested my medical records. My knee

caps had dislocated. I had no warning no symptoms. I had surgery to remove the

cartilage that had pulled away from the bone. I didn't get any better after a

year. I got a new surgeon and after a new MRI I was back at stage 4 cmp again in

both knees. I have had multiple surgeries. I just recently had a patellofemoral

replacement. This is the most relief that I have had in the last almost 8 years.

I am supposed to have my other knee done in December.

If you can avoid surgery as long as possible. Try physical therapy first. It

will take a while to see results but I know they usually don't do surgery with

stage 2/3. They will do it with stage 3/4. I have lost the last 7 years of life

behind my knees. If you want any more information you can let me know.

Tara

On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:14 PM, caroltoth73 wrote:

> I can hardly believe I found this web site and I hope some you can give me

some info. I have cmp in grade II-III there is nothing wrong with the ligaments

or muscles or cartilage anywhere except from the back of the patella. I have

seen 2 surgeons and they don't want to do surgery and would not really tell me

anything. Is this rare? I have pain not only in the knee itself but radiating up

and down from the knee. I can find alot of info on just cmp but almost zip when

it's in the later stages. This is changing my life and my job and even my own

self concept and I can not find anyone that has this paticular problem. I relly

need some info. What is the future of this? Has anyone went to grade 4? Then do

they do surgery? What surgery? Can anyone shed some light on this?

>

August 16, 2010

Tara,

How much can you do, or are you expected to do, with the PFR? I am

afraid I'm going to end up there eventually, but am concerned about

being able to get back to martial arts and belly dance.

Thanks,

T.

On 8/16/2010 4:52 PM, Tara Gandy-Sanford wrote:

> When I was first diagnosed it was stage 4 in both knees although I was not

told it was cmp until almost year later and I requested my medical records. My

knee caps had dislocated. I had no warning no symptoms. I had surgery to remove

the cartilage that had pulled away from the bone. I didn't get any better after

a year. I got a new surgeon and after a new MRI I was back at stage 4 cmp again

in both knees. I have had multiple surgeries. I just recently had a

patellofemoral replacement. This is the most relief that I have had in the last

almost 8 years. I am supposed to have my other knee done in December.

>

> If you can avoid surgery as long as possible. Try physical therapy first. It

will take a while to see results but I know they usually don't do surgery with

stage 2/3. They will do it with stage 3/4. I have lost the last 7 years of life

behind my knees. If you want any more information you can let me know.

>

> Tara

> On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:14 PM, caroltoth73 wrote:

>

>> I can hardly believe I found this web site and I hope some you can give me