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Hi ,

It would depend on the supplier as there are quite a few grades of olive

oil. I would not use oil from a soap supplier for eating unless the brand on

the tin was suitable etc you know what I mean if they are pouring it

themselves into containers then one would not know. I do know that there is

soaping oil which is not the right ph or something or just does not taste

right for eating so they say it's soaping oil or it is the bottom of the

settling vats at the olive oil processing plants. There are varying colors

as well and some can mix pomace with virgin and pass it off as normal olive

oil. You would need to investigate this with your supplier and also when is

the use by date.

Cheers

Sharon

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Subject: Olive Oil??

I have a quesetion is there a difference between olive oil I would purchase

in the grocery store rather than a supplier online?

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Hi ,

There is probably no differance at all from what you buy from a

supplier online and with what you buy in the grocery store. The only

difference that you need to be aware of wether buying online or in

the grocery store is that there are many grades of olive oil. It

depends on what you plan to do with it as to which grade would best

suit your needs.

Extra virgin olive oil is very clean and gorgeous an oil, best suited

as an ingredient in products like face oils/ creams and massage oils

(not to mention salads with a bit of balsamic vinegar). Then on the

complete other end of the spectrum is refined pomace olive oil. This

is the " roughest " of all grades but contains the most saponables

which makes it best for soapmaking. On the contrary, extra virgin

olive oil wouldnt do so well in soap as it is too " clean " and

wouldn't saponify without the help of other harder oils. But having

said that it could make a great superfatting agent say as much as you

would include an essential oil (and at the same time), about 1.5%

added at the end of the soapmaking process.

Another point on this issue is dont be afraid to ask your supplier

where the raw material comes from. If it already doesn't have a label

on it, or its the suppliers label and not the manufacturers label ask

the supplier for a msds (material safety data sheet) this should give

you all of the information you need including who is the

manufacturer. Then you can very simply find some info on that company

online, and compare to what you get in the grocery store.

I am American, but live in Bali, Indonesia. Here is a common story

and example for you. There is one major palm oil producer in the

neighboring island of Java; they sell their palm oil all over the

world. In fact I can call up right now and order a 18-wheel tanker

truck full of it (if i had a place to put it) Anyway, my point is

that there are probably 20 palm oil labels in the grocery store here,

but all coming from the same source. They buy their own tanker truck

worth of oil, sell it in smaller 18 litre containers and no one ever

questions where it comes from. They just assume that label/ company

makes it themselves. They don't say they do or dont make it

themselves, we just dont ask.

Olives along with every other botanical on earth require a certain

climate and region. So probably all of the olive oil on earth comes

from a small group of suppliers on the hills of the Mediterranean or

wherever the climate best mimics the botanicals natural habitat.

One last thing then the guatemalan coffee ramble will stop: wherever

you buy your supplies read the ingredients. I recently had a not so

pleasant experience buying Marine Collagen. I wanted to start

experimenting with it and produce a new, natural anti-aging line.

Well, what was sold to me as simply: Marine Collagen - raw material

was actually only 12% marine collagen, 60% water and a bunch of other

chemicals to preserve and stabilize the collagen. (one of which was a

petroleum product, YUK!!!) Anyway, not a problem if I was made aware

with a proper label, instead I didnt find out until I requested the

msds, then I blew my lid and promptly returned the so-called " raw

material " Always read the label.

Hope this helps, sorry it took so long to get there.

Have a great day,

R. Lorenti Jr.

mlorenti@...

www.sensatia.com

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I haven't made any body products yet (I'm still learning) that have

required olive oil, but I do use it to cook in the kitchen. I prefer

extra virgin olive oil. Most olive oils are good, but the extra virgin

is supposed to be a lot healthier. Hope this helps!

~Sheri

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