Re: Paramedic worthy or not?

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Look guys, lets stop throwing stones at each other about worthy or not!

And lets not throw stones at the training organisations about who they will

accept or not.

The end of the day, whether they are right or not, they are following the

guidance laid down by the HSE and UKOOA.

Indeed the guidance is just that and can be interpreted in differant ways

and remember the offshore medics courses are just that for " offshore " medics.

There are other exceptional courses out there run for remote area medics which

don't have the strict entry criteria of the offshore medics course.

And if you don't want to work offshore but as a remote or expedition medic

then spend your money and choose your options accordingly, offshore certs

only add another option.

And another thing to remember is that within the big picture of things again

whether they are right or not, more companies are employing medics that are

registered nurses or asking agencies to only shortlist those such qualified?

Why, because in certain sectors, they are stipulating medics must be dual

registered.

For instance I have just been transferred by my company to another rig and

project becasue the local stipulations laid down by the government indicated

that the medic MUST be a registered nurse.

They swapped me out with a perfectly capable ex military CMT who then went

to my job where all required was a registered medic.

And before anyone jumps in to criticise the company then they are just

following local guidance and covering their backs.

The best back to back I ever had was an ex mil CMT and I would choose an ex

mil medic any day of the week to cover my back.

Oh and by the by, I am a registered nurse, and ex military so I can relate

to both sides of the argument.

Best wishes to all

Nick

Nick Farrell

RGN / Offshore, Remote Areas & Expedition Medic

[Guest guest]

> Message date : Sep 05 2004, 10:44 AM

> From : nckfarrell@...

> To :

> Copy to :

> Subject : Re: Paramedic worthy or not?

> Look guys, lets stop throwing stones at each other about worthy or not!

> And lets not throw stones at the training organisations about who they will

> accept or not.

> The end of the day, whether they are right or not, they are following the

> guidance laid down by the HSE and UKOOA.

> Indeed the guidance is just that and can be interpreted in differant ways

> and remember the offshore medics courses are just that for " offshore " medics.

> There are other exceptional courses out there run for remote area medics which

> don't have the strict entry criteria of the offshore medics course.

> And if you don't want to work offshore but as a remote or expedition medic

> then spend your money and choose your options accordingly, offshore certs

> only add another option.

>

> And another thing to remember is that within the big picture of things again

> whether they are right or not, more companies are employing medics that are

> registered nurses or asking agencies to only shortlist those such qualified?

> Why, because in certain sectors, they are stipulating medics must be dual

> registered.

> For instance I have just been transferred by my company to another rig and

> project becasue the local stipulations laid down by the government indicated

> that the medic MUST be a registered nurse.

> They swapped me out with a perfectly capable ex military CMT who then went

> to my job where all required was a registered medic.

> And before anyone jumps in to criticise the company then they are just

> following local guidance and covering their backs.

>

> The best back to back I ever had was an ex mil CMT and I would choose an ex

> mil medic any day of the week to cover my back.

>

> Oh and by the by, I am a registered nurse, and ex military so I can relate

> to both sides of the argument.

>

> Best wishes to all

>

> Nick

>

> Nick Farrell

> RGN / Offshore, Remote Areas & Expedition Medic

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Ross,

Didn't see a place for vets on the voting poll either ...

Best wishes

Re: Re: Paramedic worthy or not?

Importance: High

> Message date : Sep 05 2004, 10:44 AM

> From : nckfarrell@...

> To :

> Copy to :

> Subject : Re: Paramedic worthy or not?

> Look guys, lets stop throwing stones at each other about worthy or not!

> And lets not throw stones at the training organisations about who they will

> accept or not.

> The end of the day, whether they are right or not, they are following the >

guidance laid down by the HSE and UKOOA.

> Indeed the guidance is just that and can be interpreted in differant ways >

and remember the offshore medics courses are just that for " offshore " medics.

> There are other exceptional courses out there run for remote area medics which

> don't have the strict entry criteria of the offshore medics course.

> And if you don't want to work offshore but as a remote or expedition medic

> then spend your money and choose your options accordingly, offshore certs >

only add another option.

>

> And another thing to remember is that within the big picture of things again

> whether they are right or not, more companies are employing medics that are

> registered nurses or asking agencies to only shortlist those such qualified?

> Why, because in certain sectors, they are stipulating medics must be dual >

registered.

> For instance I have just been transferred by my company to another rig and

> project becasue the local stipulations laid down by the government indicated

> that the medic MUST be a registered nurse.

> They swapped me out with a perfectly capable ex military CMT who then went

> to my job where all required was a registered medic.

> And before anyone jumps in to criticise the company then they are just

> following local guidance and covering their backs.

>

> The best back to back I ever had was an ex mil CMT and I would choose an ex

> mil medic any day of the week to cover my back.

>

> Oh and by the by, I am a registered nurse, and ex military so I can relate

> to both sides of the argument.

>

> Best wishes to all

>

> Nick

>

> Nick Farrell

> RGN / Offshore, Remote Areas & Expedition Medic

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Nor for the name I am about to call you either

Cheers,

Ross

> RE: Re:

> Paramedic worthy or not?

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>

> Hey Ross,

> Didn't see a place for vets on the

> voting poll either ...

> Best wishes

>

>

[Guest guest]

Before anyone says it and adds a whole new dynamic to the discussion, the

" vet " thing is a joke and a nickname, mind you frosty, at least we had a good

range of skills between us, you being the janitor and all........LOL

You build the cages and I'll tranquilise the animals.........

Will give you a shout off list mate.

Nick

[Guest guest]

Hi

Well said.You have my vote but the mention of vets might get Rod salivating.

As long as everyone does their job to the best standards what does it matter

what background of training they've had.

tabeeb kalb

Re: Re: Paramedic worthy or not?

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> > Message date : Sep 05 2004, 10:44 AM

> > From : nckfarrell@...

> > To :

> > Copy to :

> > Subject : Re: Paramedic worthy or not?

> > Look guys, lets stop throwing stones at each other about worthy or not!

> > And lets not throw stones at the training organisations about who they

will

> > accept or not.

> > The end of the day, whether they are right or not, they are following

the > guidance laid down by the HSE and UKOOA.

> > Indeed the guidance is just that and can be interpreted in differant

ways > and remember the offshore medics courses are just that for " offshore "

medics.

> > There are other exceptional courses out there run for remote area medics

which

> > don't have the strict entry criteria of the offshore medics course.

> > And if you don't want to work offshore but as a remote or expedition

medic

> > then spend your money and choose your options accordingly, offshore

certs > only add another option.

> >

> > And another thing to remember is that within the big picture of things

again

> > whether they are right or not, more companies are employing medics that

are

> > registered nurses or asking agencies to only shortlist those such

qualified?

> > Why, because in certain sectors, they are stipulating medics must be

dual > registered.

> > For instance I have just been transferred by my company to another rig

and

> > project becasue the local stipulations laid down by the government

indicated

> > that the medic MUST be a registered nurse.

> > They swapped me out with a perfectly capable ex military CMT who then

went

> > to my job where all required was a registered medic.

> > And before anyone jumps in to criticise the company then they are just

> > following local guidance and covering their backs.

> >

> > The best back to back I ever had was an ex mil CMT and I would choose an

ex

> > mil medic any day of the week to cover my back.

> >

> > Oh and by the by, I am a registered nurse, and ex military so I can

relate

> > to both sides of the argument.

> >

> > Best wishes to all

> >

> > Nick

> >

> > Nick Farrell

> > RGN / Offshore, Remote Areas & Expedition Medic

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Lee I happen to be a Critical Care Paramedic from the states. I want to say

thanks because you are one of the few that look at a persons abilities verses

the letters behind their name.

I have been in Iraq since Aug of last year and have work almost predomently as a

free standing care giver. I have to admit there is a lot that I have learned

and a lot that I still can learn, but the key was that when given a situation

that I felt a little uncomfortable about, I wasn't to proud to ask for help.

I think you have to have the knack and a knowledge base, but I don't think that

you have to have all the letters behind your name.

I have them and admit that the learning aided me to get where I am, but the OJT

and caring what happened to the patient aided me the most.

Keep up the good work and Remember that Heros don't brag about who they are!

Mayo

Remote Medic in Iraq

Quoting lee oshea <leeoshea1000@...>:

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>

>

>

> Hi ladies and Gents,

>

>

>

> I have been following the general traffic on " are Paramedics worthy " to be

>

> offshore/onshore..

>

> well here is my experience in the past 6 months. I attended the offshore

>

> course with AON now Capita back in Feb of this year. I used my military

>

> medic with 12 yrs of service to get me through the door. On my CV i

>

> highlighted the fact that i was a paramedic with the Warwickshire ambulance

>

> service and was told that, that would NOT get me bonus points for a bum on

>

> seat on the course but 12 years Military would. So i attended, passed, and

>

> now i'm here in Freezing cold Kuwait (not!). Who i work very closely with

>

> nothing but US paramedics. These guys may have little hands on clinical

>

> experience or a wide clinical spectrum of skills. My partner out here is a

>

> paramedic and has adapted to the clinical side of life in no time atall.

>

> Infact a  general point i want to make here, he's actually left Kuwait and

>

> gone to Iraq to open his own clinic with no problema atall. So my point is

>

> YES paramedics are worthies.

>

>

>

> Also my job in the military was protected with top cover i.e doctors in the

>

> house so i could rely on them to dispence antibiotics, out here i don't have

>

> the TOP COVER and i'm giving out prescription drugs therfore practising new

>

> skills. So i'f i'm able to adapt, then WHY can't paramedics be worthies with

>

> some offshore training organisations. Hmmm My 2 pence worth,

>

>

>

> Regards, Lee

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>

> Thankyou,

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Good morning,

Over the last couple of days aboard a New Zealand

fishing vessel a man was trapped under a large piece

of equipment that had amputated one leg and trapped

the other.

Ashore a St 's Ambulance paramedic was called to

respond and was winched aboard the vessel from a

helicopter.

On arrival, with extra equipment, the paramedic took

over the care of the casualty from a 'nurse' who was

aboard.

They treated him but assessed that he could not be

recovered from the machinery and taken ashore at the

time. They decided that they had to sit it out with

him and get him by sea to port, a 25 hour sailing

time.

Despite all their efforts I understand that he has

since died at sea.

This is an example of how we should not be comparing

but combining as we are all in this together.

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--- Mayo <blmayo@...> wrote:

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Lee I happen to be a Critical Care Paramedic from the

states. I want to say

thanks because you are one of the few that look at a

persons abilities verses

the letters behind their name.

I have been in Iraq since Aug of last year and have

work almost predomently as a

free standing care giver. I have to admit there is a

lot that I have learned

and a lot that I still can learn, but the key was that

when given a situation

that I felt a little uncomfortable about, I wasn't to

proud to ask for help.

I think you have to have the knack and a knowledge

base, but I don't think that

you have to have all the letters behind your name.

I have them and admit that the learning aided me to

get where I am, but the OJT

and caring what happened to the patient aided me the

most.

Keep up the good work and Remember that Heros don't

brag about who they are!

Mayo

Remote Medic in Iraq

Quoting lee oshea <leeoshea1000@...>:

>

>

>

>

> Hi ladies and Gents,

>

>

>

> I have been following the general traffic on " are

Paramedics worthy " to be

>

> offshore/onshore..

>

> well here is my experience in the past 6 months. I

attended the offshore

>

> course with AON now Capita back in Feb of this year.

I used my military

>

> medic with 12 yrs of service to get me through the

door. On my CV i

>

> highlighted the fact that i was a paramedic with the

Warwickshire ambulance

>

> service and was told that, that would NOT get me

bonus points for a bum on

>

> seat on the course but 12 years Military would. So i

attended, passed, and

>

> now i'm here in Freezing cold Kuwait (not!). Who i

work very closely with

>

> nothing but US paramedics. These guys may have

little hands on clinical

>

> experience or a wide clinical spectrum of skills. My

partner out here is a

>

> paramedic and has adapted to the clinical side of

life in no time atall.

>

> Infact a  general point i want to make here, he's

actually left Kuwait and

>

> gone to Iraq to open his own clinic with no problema

atall. So my point is

>

> YES paramedics are worthies.

>

>

>

> Also my job in the military was protected with top

cover i.e doctors in the

>

> house so i could rely on them to dispence

antibiotics, out here i don't have

>

> the TOP COVER and i'm giving out prescription drugs

therfore practising new

>

> skills. So i'f i'm able to adapt, then WHY can't

paramedics be worthies with

>

> some offshore training organisations. Hmmm My 2

pence worth,

>

>

>

> Regards, Lee

>

>

>

> Thankyou,

>

> Lee O'Shea

>

> Kbr Paramedic

>

> Government operations logcap III

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