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Yes - good luck to all you non-military medics in iraq. when i was in

southern iraq last year it had the feeling of being an extremely dangerous

place. we lost 6 MPs whilst I was there. i wouldn't want to go without the

backing of a formal military force. by the way who does do your force

protection?

Dr Brando Tamayo

Surgeon Lieutenant Commander Royal Navy

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To all of the Paramedics & ex-SF Medics out there. I have worked here this

go-around now for 6 monthes now. I've lost 7 good friends here & 1 Dear friend

in Afghanistan.

Sure, I'm here for the $$, but it goes deeper now that it's " personal " .

Luckily, I work for Olive/Ex-Med, & having said that I also am a shooter first &

a Medic.... hopefully not at all.

These are ALL the Brothers that I never had when I was growing up w/ only an

older sister....does that make sense? There was a bad *#%! in Baghdad the other

day (4 racing up in a Black BMW) who when he stared down the barrel of my AKMS,

he was bold enough to give me the finger real quick, I was redy to shoot as it

was so fast, I thought he had a gun for a nanosecond. If I had it to do over, I

would have taken up the rest of my trigger slack....it was already on full auto.

I know he was a bad *#%!, Al Quaeda probably. He's probably the one who took out

2 great friends & Teamates 5 weeks ago.....he looked non-Iraqi & used to having

PSD's NOT shoot....my responsibility is to keep our own MEN ALIVE.

This is the paradox of being a Medic here, you have to be willing & able to

take out the Bad Guys to save your own....Preventative Medicine as it were.

Theres a responsibility to know when not just to shoot, but also WHEN to.

Be careful out there to all of you MEN (as opposed to just another " male " of

the species) that are here in Iraq. Don't be complacent & STAY " switched on " at

all times. This is not a safe job. This should be on that Discovery Channel Show

" Worlds Most Dangerous Jobs " , it is....but I Love it mostly due to the bond in

the Brotherhood of Soldiers.

I hope this explains a bit of why we do this to those who are in the Oil

Patch & riding the Meatwagons. We're not all Adrenaline Junkies or NutCases.

We're also experiencing & re-living our Military lives. I've made some of the

best friends here & hooked up with old Teamates of mine from SF, & made many

lasting friendships w/ new active SF Guys (Army & Navy), USMC, USN, & CF....its

not exactly like a " Fantasy Camp " for od baseball players. This is for real, &

its for keeps.

Take care of your Men, & then yoursself, in THAT order in any way thats

necessary..... & thats all I got to say about that.

You guys are all BRAVE being here, this takes Cajones to do. I'm proud to be

one of you. Be safe, be proactive, not reactive & do the right thing every

second....you may not get a second chance.

(SFC Ret.) York Hunt, 18D/NREMT-P (Name falsified just for the hell of it!)

In a message dated 7/17/2004 11:23:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mayo

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>I have been working in Fallujah for the past year.

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>I have only made this money due to the dangers of getting motared weekly,

having

>several people from our site killed and the daily risk that this site faces.

>

>I have worked for ISOS and overall they have been a good company to work for.

>This is atypical for the amount they usually pay. I would be willing to bet

>that if you are not introduced to these situations, the pay is just not going

>to be there.

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>I know that a few other companies are paying well, but it just all depends on

>the risks at hand and your responsability.

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>Good luck with whatever jobs you happen to get and please make sure that you do

>understand that if you take a position in Iraq, the risk are surely here.

>

>Take care and be careful.

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> Mayo

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CLARKEY YOU MAD YANK GIT, GOOD TO HEAR YOU ARE STILL ALIVE AND TALKING , TALKING

BEING THE OPERATIVE WORD.

IM A BIT FURTHER NORTH THAN YOU RUNNING CONVOY RECCES BETWEEN FALHUJA, MOSUL AND

KIRKUK. VERY STRESSFUL BUT STILL AN ICE CREAM BOY.

STAY SAFE DUDE

DINGER.

UK PARAMEDIC PRACTITIONER

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In a message dated 7/22/2004 2:17:19 AM Central Daylight Time,

r9dinger@... writes:

DINGER.

UK PARAMEDIC PRACTITIONER

That's a new term for me. Who recognizes that and what is it?

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I dont think it is a recognised qualification, probably more a job description,

some people in the oil industry call themselves offshore care practitioners but

I dont think it is a widely recognised term

Savva

Medic/Lomond

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In a message dated 7/22/2004 2:17:19 AM Central Daylight Time,

r9dinger@... writes:

DINGER.

UK PARAMEDIC PRACTITIONER

That's a new term for me. Who recognizes that and what is it?

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Paramedic practitioner's are a new job described paramedic who complete further

training on top of " Paramedic " . They can then do more than your average

paramedic. i.e.

Turn down an ambulance request from a patient if the paramedic thinks that they

are just after a taxi because of a " sore knee from running "

Stitch people up (In more ways than one i would have thought)

Advise on inoculations

So on and so forth.

I know this as i live next door to two of them.

Mitch

" Savva, (Contractor) " <.Savva@...> wrote:

I dont think it is a recognised qualification, probably more a job description,

some people in the oil industry call themselves offshore care practitioners but

I dont think it is a widely recognised term

Savva

Medic/Lomond

Re: Iraq work

In a message dated 7/22/2004 2:17:19 AM Central Daylight Time,

r9dinger@... writes:

DINGER.

UK PARAMEDIC PRACTITIONER

That's a new term for me. Who recognizes that and what is it?

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SOMEONE WHO WORKS OUTSIDE THE REMIT OF A UK PARAMEDIC, IE EXTENDED SKILLS,

SUTURING, CHEST DRAINS AND EXTENDED PHARMACOLOGY ETC.PHYSICIANS ASSISTANT IN THE

US BASICALLY GOES THE SAME WAY.

NICE AND EASY WHEN YOU WORK OUTSIDE OF THE UK.

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DINGER.

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As far as I am aware this is a new course being set up and run as a pilot course

in the UK, there are a few Universities doing it as pilot courses, a friend of

mine who is a National Health service Paramedic is just about to complete the

course. As far as I know it is a degree course, I think Birmingham University

(UK) are running them but I think there are a few others. I gather you have to

be a registered NHS paramedic to go on them but can't swear to it. I believe the

idea is that they are used instead of General Practitioners for most call outs

due to contractual changes with the GMC.

This is the only info I have but more should be available via the internet. Hope

this makes some sense.

Tony Brown

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Hi,

Emergency Care Practitioners Course currently being run at Univ of Herts. We

are hoping to start one up in Essex asap. If you want some more info contact

me

regards,

Sam

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