RE: Employers list and advice

May 21, 2004

HI ANDY.

I DID THE OFFSHORE COURSE LAST NOV AND THEN REGISTERED WITH THAT MANY AGENCYS

THAT I LOST COUNT, I AM STILL WAITING FOR ONE OF THEM TO CONTACT ME REF A JOB.

I HAVE ALL THE RELEVENT MIL/AMBULANCE BACK GROUND BUT IT WOULD SEEM THAT YOU

NEED TO HAVE OFFSHORE EXPERIANCE BEFORE ANY FIRM WILL TAKE YOU ON ITS THE OLD

CATCH 22 NO EXPERIANCE NO JOB NO JOB NO EXPERIANCE. HOPE ALL WORKS FOR YOU I NOW

WORK FOR THE RFA AS A SHIPS MEDICAL TECNICIAN.

Spencer <andrew.spencer-medic@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Having followed the fantastic advice on this group I have just found a

trainer who will allow me onto an offshore medics course. However, they were

very hesitant to take my money, advicing that I might find it hard to get a job

afterwards.

I'ld be grateful if anyone could point me towards , or supply, a list of

employers that I could contact in order to check this out. I'm quite happy to do

the corse on spec but would like to sound out a few people first.

I don't have the usual military or nursing background that is asked for but I'm

willing to do what ever it takes to make up for that.

Thanks again for everyone's advice.

Andy

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May 21, 2004

Hi Andy,

I know what youre feeling mate, I'm really new

to the offshore industry to. I started working over

Christmas and have managed 4 trips since then, (I'm

currently on my 5th). You will probably hear alot of

negative things about joining the offshore world as a

medic at the moment. It is pretty tight out there and

I spend my time in compitition with guys who have 10

years experience. But there are still openings if you

have the patience and arent worried about work being

regular.

A good agency to start with is Oilfield medics,

(www.oilfieldmedics.com). They gave me my start and

give alot of support to new medics.

Another good agency is Rigman, (kerry@...).

These guys gave me the job that I'm on at the moment.

Interservices (www.interservices.com) hire medics

although I havent had any dealings with them.

AON are a pretty good company (so I hear). But

again, I have had no dealings with them direct.

Chances are, the basic medic course and survival

chits arent going to be enough to get you your first

job. In my case, I had to get my CAA radio ops chit

before i got my first job (and even then it took 3

months). You have to remember that the agencies are

taking a chance by sending you to a platform. You are

new and therefore completely untested. The jobs that

you are going to get to start off with are going to be

the last minute ones that no other medics want. But

that doesnt mean to say it wont happen. When I was put

forward for my second adhoc job, I was selected fifth

out of five! But all the other medics all dropped out

so I ended up getting the 2 weeks. Dont lose faith,

just be patient and have your bags packed and ready to

go at short notice.

Once you start getting bits of work, make sure that

you work your arse off. Take on as many of the regular

medics duties as you can and always be willing to do

extra. And at the end of your tour, get a reference

from the OIM (and make sure its a bloody good one!).

At the end of this trip, I will have done 5 tours

offshore. Despite always getting good references and

paying out for extra qualifications, I am still the

last to be picked by instillations that dont know me.

Just keep " plugging away " and dont put yourself in a

situation were you are relying on regular work

offshore. Good luck mate, hope it all pans-out for

you.

Dougie

--- Spencer

<andrew.spencer-medic@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi All,

Having followed the fantastic advice on this

group I have just found a

trainer who will allow me onto an offshore medics

course. However, they were

very hesitant to take my money, advicing that I might

find it hard to get a job

afterwards.

I'ld be grateful if anyone could point me

towards , or supply, a list of

employers that I could contact in order to check this

out. I'm quite happy to do

the corse on spec but would like to sound out a few

people first.

I don't have the usual military or nursing

background that is asked for but I'm

willing to do what ever it takes to make up for that.

Thanks again for everyone's advice.

Andy

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May 21, 2004

Hi All I just applied to do my offshore refresher and here's what the

instructions said

It took me about 6 months to get off shore after I passed my course but

I got there eventually keep at it

Cheers and cheerio for the noo

Dylan Prentice

OFFSHORE MEDIC/REFRESHER COURSE

Prerequisites

Candidates must meet the criteria set out in the Offshore Installations

and Pipeline Works (First Aid) Regulations 1989, (SI 1989 No. 1671),

that is either:

a) A Registered General Nurse whose details appear in the UKCC

Register in those sections relating to General Nursing (1, 2, 7 or 12)

with at least 3 years post registration experience.

OR

Regular Service in either:

Royal Navy - Leading Medical Assistant (LMA) or above

Army - Combat Medical Technician Class 1, (CMT 1 RAMC) Corporal and

above.

RAF - Corporal or above in the RAF Medical Branch.

SUITABILITY FOR ATTENDANCE ON THE COURSE WILL BE ASSESED INDIVIDUALLY.

THIS WILL BE BASED UPON NOT ONLY QUALIFICATIONS HELD BUT ALSO RECENT AND

RELEVENT EXPERIENCE. CV's WILL BE SCRUTINISED AND REFERENCES REQUESTED.

IF YOU ARE A NEW START CANDIDATE AND ARE NOT IN POSSESSION OF ONE OF THE

ABOVE QUALIFICATIONS, PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD AN APPLICATION FORM FOR

CONSIDERATION AS WE WILL BE UNABLE TO ACCEPT IT

Because of the conditions placed upon us by the Health and Safety

Executive, who have given us the authority to run these courses, we

cannot offer a Refresher Course to anyone who cannot provide evidence of

previous offshore medic training. It is also considered unfair to offer

a student who does not hold the appropriate entry qualification a

position on the full course, where there is a fundamental requirement

for a high standard of medical knowledge prior to it's commencement. In

our experience the likelihood of passing the final examination in these

cases is remote.

Employers list and advice

Hi All,

Having followed the fantastic advice on this group I have just

found a

trainer who will allow me onto an offshore medics course. However, they

were

very hesitant to take my money, advicing that I might find it hard to

get a job

afterwards.

I'ld be grateful if anyone could point me towards , or supply, a

list of

employers that I could contact in order to check this out. I'm quite

happy to do

the corse on spec but would like to sound out a few people first.

I don't have the usual military or nursing background that is asked

for but I'm

willing to do what ever it takes to make up for that.

Thanks again for everyone's advice.

Andy

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May 23, 2004

But most of all... be very insecure that you are doing a good job... lick plenty

of arse and... try and poach the regular Medics jobs... Eh Dougie?

dougie private <dougie_belton@...> wrote: Hi Andy,

I know what youre feeling mate, I'm really new

to the offshore industry to. I started working over

Christmas and have managed 4 trips since then, (I'm

currently on my 5th). You will probably hear alot of

negative things about joining the offshore world as a

medic at the moment. It is pretty tight out there and

I spend my time in compitition with guys who have 10

years experience. But there are still openings if you

have the patience and arent worried about work being

regular.

A good agency to start with is Oilfield medics,

(www.oilfieldmedics.com). They gave me my start and

give alot of support to new medics.

Another good agency is Rigman, (kerry@...).

These guys gave me the job that I'm on at the moment.

Interservices (www.interservices.com) hire medics

although I havent had any dealings with them.

AON are a pretty good company (so I hear). But

again, I have had no dealings with them direct.

Chances are, the basic medic course and survival

chits arent going to be enough to get you your first

job. In my case, I had to get my CAA radio ops chit

before i got my first job (and even then it took 3

months). You have to remember that the agencies are

taking a chance by sending you to a platform. You are

new and therefore completely untested. The jobs that

you are going to get to start off with are going to be

the last minute ones that no other medics want. But

that doesnt mean to say it wont happen. When I was put

forward for my second adhoc job, I was selected fifth

out of five! But all the other medics all dropped out

so I ended up getting the 2 weeks. Dont lose faith,

just be patient and have your bags packed and ready to

go at short notice.

Once you start getting bits of work, make sure that

you work your arse off. Take on as many of the regular

medics duties as you can and always be willing to do

extra. And at the end of your tour, get a reference

from the OIM (and make sure its a bloody good one!).

At the end of this trip, I will have done 5 tours

offshore. Despite always getting good references and

paying out for extra qualifications, I am still the

last to be picked by instillations that dont know me.

Just keep " plugging away " and dont put yourself in a

situation were you are relying on regular work

offshore. Good luck mate, hope it all pans-out for

you.

Dougie

--- Spencer

wrote:

---------------------------------

Hi All,

Having followed the fantastic advice on this

group I have just found a

trainer who will allow me onto an offshore medics

course. However, they were

very hesitant to take my money, advicing that I might

find it hard to get a job

afterwards.

I'ld be grateful if anyone could point me

towards , or supply, a list of

employers that I could contact in order to check this

out. I'm quite happy to do

the corse on spec but would like to sound out a few

people first.

I don't have the usual military or nursing

background that is asked for but I'm

willing to do what ever it takes to make up for that.

Thanks again for everyone's advice.

Andy

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May 23, 2004

Sorry mate, not sure that i know you

> ---------------------------------

> Hi All,

> Having followed the fantastic advice on this

> group I have just found a

> trainer who will allow me onto an offshore medics

> course. However, they were

> very hesitant to take my money, advicing that I might

> find it hard to get a job

> afterwards.

> I'ld be grateful if anyone could point me

> towards , or supply, a list of

> employers that I could contact in order to check this

> out. I'm quite happy to do

> the corse on spec but would like to sound out a few

> people first.

> I don't have the usual military or nursing

> background that is asked for but I'm

> willing to do what ever it takes to make up for that.

>

> Thanks again for everyone's advice.

>

> Andy

>

> Member Information:

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>

May 23, 2004

Well Dougie- with an Email name like Sloppyshoulders and signing as Mr Unhappy,

he sounds like a real motivator!

Re: Employers list and advice

Sorry mate, not sure that i know you

> ---------------------------------

> Hi All,

> Having followed the fantastic advice on this

> group I have just found a

> trainer who will allow me onto an offshore medics

> course. However, they were

> very hesitant to take my money, advicing that I might

> find it hard to get a job

> afterwards.

> I'ld be grateful if anyone could point me

> towards , or supply, a list of

> employers that I could contact in order to check this

> out. I'm quite happy to do

> the corse on spec but would like to sound out a few

> people first.

> I don't have the usual military or nursing

> background that is asked for but I'm

> willing to do what ever it takes to make up for that.

>

> Thanks again for everyone's advice.

>

> Andy

>

> Member Information:

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> List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@R...

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> Regards

>

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>

May 23, 2004

Thanks mate, i just wish i knew who it was so that I

could find out what he's refering to

--- " Growcott, Simon W. " <SGrowcott@...>

wrote:

---------------------------------

Well Dougie- with an Email name like Sloppyshoulders

and signing as Mr Unhappy, he sounds like a real

motivator!

Re: Employers list and

advice

Sorry mate, not sure that i know you

> ---------------------------------

> Hi All,

> Having followed the fantastic advice on this

> group I have just found a

> trainer who will allow me onto an offshore medics

> course. However, they were

> very hesitant to take my money, advicing that I

might

> find it hard to get a job

> afterwards.

> I'ld be grateful if anyone could point me

> towards , or supply, a list of

> employers that I could contact in order to check

this

> out. I'm quite happy to do

> the corse on spec but would like to sound out a few

> people first.

> I don't have the usual military or nursing

> background that is asked for but I'm

> willing to do what ever it takes to make up for

that.

>

> Thanks again for everyone's advice.

>

> Andy

>

> Member Information:

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> List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@R...

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http://www.remotemedics.co.uk

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> Regards

>

> The Remote Medics Team

>

May 24, 2004

Well well well,

Dylan Prentice........... thought you had fallen off the face of the earth!

Drop me a line at my one of the addresses below to catch up. Can't believe you

are refreshing again already, 3 years rolls in pretty quickly.

arlenemcd@...

arlene.mcdermott@...

Arlene

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May 24, 2004

Ok, I guess " unhappy " isnt going to give me a clue, but i would

still like to respond to him.

On the occasions I have done adhoc, I am always very aware that I

am in someone elses " back ward " . That means I am there as a caretaker

and I just want to hold the status quo for the 2 weeks. That means

asking lots of questions to make sure that things dont go down the

pan while I'm there. It may be a little insecure of me to ask lots of

questions and to check my own admin, but its better than the

alternative (ie, mucking up the crews flights and ruining the bed

plans etc.).

As for licking arse: I am brand new to the oil industry. As I said

in the email to Andy, despite 4 trips i am still at the bottom of the

heap, (and it can be a big heap). If making an real effort

is " licking arse " , then I guess I'm just going to have to swallow

some pride and get to it. The agencies do check how a worker acts

when offshore. If a report comes back " didnt seem very interested in

being here " , it will probably be the last job I get.

As for poaching the permanent medics job. I think I know what you

are refering to. It is rather unfortunate that it was YOUR company

that called ME.... twice! To take on a medic and train him up to a

full time position probably takes months. No OIM is going to make

that choice lightly. And yet on 2 seperate occasions, I recieved

phonecalls from the same place asking if I was available and if I

would consider going full time. What do you expect me to say? I'm as

eager to work as anyone else, and if a platform wants to change its

current medic for me I'm not going to throw that away. I'm sorry that

the industry is in a state of " dead mans shoes " at the moment. But

have I worked really for the small opportunities I have had and I

cant afford to just turn work down.

So there you have it. Either I'm a new medic who just wants to

work, or I'm a complete git. I didnt go into the medic trade to

trample on peoples toes and what you said has hit a nerve, (probably

the insecure side of me again). I'm sorry that you dislike me for the

things that have happened.

Dougie

> > ---------------------------------

> > Hi All,

> > Having followed the fantastic advice on this

> > group I have just found a

> > trainer who will allow me onto an offshore medics

> > course. However, they were

> > very hesitant to take my money, advicing that I

> might

> > find it hard to get a job

> > afterwards.

> > I'ld be grateful if anyone could point me

> > towards , or supply, a list of

> > employers that I could contact in order to check

> this

> > out. I'm quite happy to do

> > the corse on spec but would like to sound out a few

> > people first.

> > I don't have the usual military or nursing

> > background that is asked for but I'm

> > willing to do what ever it takes to make up for

> that.

> >

> > Thanks again for everyone's advice.

> >

> > Andy

> >

> > Member Information:

> >

> > List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@R...

> > Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@R...

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> > unsubscriptions) should be sent to the list owner.

> >

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> >

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> http://www.remotemedics.co.uk

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > The Remote Medics Team

> >

May 24, 2004

Gentlemen / Girls and Boys

Is this really the forum to air this sort of attitude, are we not all in

this as well as for the love the money to keep us going. Sorry to say that

this

is the day and age of getting on with job and proving your worth as their

are hundreds out there ready and willing.

Lets us get back to what the forum is for help and understanding

Best rgds

RTC

May 25, 2004

Dougie,

It sounds to me as if you do a damn good job having fathomed the situation

pretty well.

You don't have to justify yourself to every Tom,Dick and Sloppy Shoulders.

Let the person concerned identify themselves (by direct contact preferably) and

reasonably discuss any gripes that he has with you.

Anonymous slagging doesn't do any of us any good.

All the best,

Simon