Re: new to group, medications

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone,

I have been struggling for a while to find some pain relief. I find that the

typical PT exercises are doing little good to fix the tracking problem, but

my surgeons at Hospital for Special Surgery are reluctant to perform surgery,

especially a lateral release. They both seem to favor conservative

management. They are hoping that I can realign the knees since the tracking was

caused

by orthotics.

My questions are: Have any of you received any relief from a cortisone shot

if your knee is swollen?

Do any of you take NSAIDs on a regular basis or just use the typical

alternative meds.?

Has anyone had any relief from the topical NSAIDs?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Anne

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jen. I've been hesitant about the cortisone shot.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

My doc at HSS is Dr. Wickiewicz, who is a great knee surgeon. The osteo is

Dr. Feinberg.

The surgeons who wanted to do the lat. release surgery were: Dr. Grelsamer

(who wrote the book about how many surgeons inappropriately recommend

unnecessary surgeries) and Dr. Cushner at the Insoll- Inst.

I am also considering prolotherapy, but that means no NSAIDs or cortisone,

etc

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[Guest guest]

Hi Meg,

Thanks for the info. on Orudis. I'll look into it. I understand the issue

about NSAIDs and cell growth. That's the same reason why one can't use it with

prolotherapy.

I hope your cartilage-generating surgery improves your condition so much

that you won't need any more meds.!!!!

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Hi Jen,

Yes, he does a full exam. He could tell from the exam that I had a tracking

problem. He also did ex-rays (including sunrise ex-ray which shows a patellar

tilt) and a high resolution MRI. The situation arose quickly due to the

orthotics that were prescribed by another doc. And, yes, the osteo is also at

HSS. He's the head of the dept.

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I got to the point where ibuprofen wasn't touching my pain, and took

Celebrex for a while. It helped, but I found that another OTC was more

effective - the brand name was Orudis (generic is ketoprofen) and it worked

so well that I quit taking the Celebrex. Unfortunately, they quit selling

Orudis OTC, the only reason I've ever found is that it wasn't selling well.

But my doc found that I could still get it as a prescription, so until my

surgery in February, I was taking it pretty regularly.

My surgery was one that puts new cartilage in the problem areas, and NSAID's

can inhibit cell growth, so I won't be taking anything for a while.

Meg.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:01 AM, <MARasmuss@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I have been struggling for a while to find some pain relief. I find that

> the

> typical PT exercises are doing little good to fix the tracking problem,

> but

> my surgeons at Hospital for Special Surgery are reluctant to perform

> surgery,

> especially a lateral release. They both seem to favor conservative

> management. They are hoping that I can realign the knees since the

> tracking was caused

> by orthotics.

>

> My questions are: Have any of you received any relief from a cortisone

> shot

> if your knee is swollen?

> Do any of you take NSAIDs on a regular basis or just use the typical

> alternative meds.?

> Has anyone had any relief from the topical NSAIDs?

>

> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

>

> Anne

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ann, I'm from NY also I have gone to HSS also. doctor didnt recommend a

thing. In fact i had to ask for celebrex. I saw a Dr. R. Marx. If you dont

mind me asking who was your doctor.

Thanks

Jen

Re: Re: new to group, medications

Hi Everyone,

I have been struggling for a while to find some pain relief. I find that the

typical PT exercises are doing little good to fix the tracking problem, but

my surgeons at Hospital for Special Surgery are reluctant to perform surgery,

especially a lateral release. They both seem to favor conservative

management. They are hoping that I can realign the knees since the tracking was

caused

by orthotics.

My questions are: Have any of you received any relief from a cortisone shot

if your knee is swollen?

Do any of you take NSAIDs on a regular basis or just use the typical

alternative meds.?

Has anyone had any relief from the topical NSAIDs?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Anne

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[Guest guest]

I saw two orthos: one didn't give me anything, one gave me celebrex. When I do

have a flare-up, I have found that celebrex takes a few days to kick in (for me

at least). It definitely helps though!

Cortisone did not help me at all.

Jen Freeman <fjen37@...> wrote:

Hi ann, I'm from NY also I have gone to HSS also. doctor didnt

recommend a thing. In fact i had to ask for celebrex. I saw a Dr. R. Marx. If

you dont mind me asking who was your doctor.

Thanks

Jen

Re: Re: new to group, medications

Hi Everyone,

I have been struggling for a while to find some pain relief. I find that the

typical PT exercises are doing little good to fix the tracking problem, but

my surgeons at Hospital for Special Surgery are reluctant to perform surgery,

especially a lateral release. They both seem to favor conservative

management. They are hoping that I can realign the knees since the tracking was

caused

by orthotics.

My questions are: Have any of you received any relief from a cortisone shot

if your knee is swollen?

Do any of you take NSAIDs on a regular basis or just use the typical

alternative meds.?

Has anyone had any relief from the topical NSAIDs?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Anne

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[Guest guest]

I had a cortisone shot. It brought the swelling down but didn't help

with the pain. I won't get one again. I also stopped taking

anti-inflammitories; I was on Aleve for a while. I haven't noticed a

difference since I've been off them. The dull pain is still the same,

constantly there.

I am going to see an osteopath to address some possible imbalances and

maybe try prolotherapy. At the very least, I'm hoping he can help

determine some of the root causes. In the meanwhile, I'm restarting

some of the more basic PT exercises.

Good luck!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I have been struggling for a while to find some pain relief. I find

that the

> typical PT exercises are doing little good to fix the tracking

problem, but

> my surgeons at Hospital for Special Surgery are reluctant to perform

surgery,

> especially a lateral release. They both seem to favor conservative

> management. They are hoping that I can realign the knees since the

tracking was caused

> by orthotics.

>

> My questions are: Have any of you received any relief from a

cortisone shot

> if your knee is swollen?

> Do any of you take NSAIDs on a regular basis or just use the typical

> alternative meds.?

> Has anyone had any relief from the topical NSAIDs?

>

> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

>

> Anne

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Did he check the tracking of your knee cap? I felt mine didnt even do that.

Just said that there was nothing mechnically wrong. Is the D.O at Hss also?

how long have you had this conditon? what did your x-ray and MRI indicate?

Thanks again

Jen

Re: Re: new to group, medications

Hi Jen,

My doc at HSS is Dr. Wickiewicz, who is a great knee surgeon. The osteo is

Dr. Feinberg.

The surgeons who wanted to do the lat. release surgery were: Dr. Grelsamer

(who wrote the book about how many surgeons inappropriately recommend

unnecessary surgeries) and Dr. Cushner at the Insoll- Inst.

I am also considering prolotherapy, but that means no NSAIDs or cortisone,

etc

Anne

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[Guest guest]

Hi ...what are sunrise xray.....is that when they take them from the top?

thanks

jen

Re: Re: new to group, medications

Hi Jen,

Yes, he does a full exam. He could tell from the exam that I had a tracking

problem. He also did ex-rays (including sunrise ex-ray which shows a patellar

tilt) and a high resolution MRI. The situation arose quickly due to the

orthotics that were prescribed by another doc. And, yes, the osteo is also at

HSS. He's the head of the dept.

Anne

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[Guest guest]

Correct. The sunrise x-ray of the patella is from the top, with a

bent knee.

http://www.athleticadvisor.com/Injuries/LE/Knee/Patella/patella_x-

ray.htm

- Doug

>

> Hi ...what are sunrise xray.....is that when they take them from

the top?

>

> thanks

> jen

>

>

> Re: Re: new to group,

medications

>

> Hi Jen,

>

> Yes, he does a full exam. He could tell from the exam that I had a

tracking

> problem. He also did ex-rays (including sunrise ex-ray which shows

a patellar

> tilt) and a high resolution MRI. The situation arose quickly due to

the

> orthotics that were prescribed by another doc. And, yes, the osteo

is also at

> HSS. He's the head of the dept.

>

> Anne

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it's taken from the top with a bent knee.

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