Best results with over the counter medication

[Guest guest]

What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve other?

[Guest guest]

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

I'm using Ibuprofen (Advil) now, but I have used aspirin and occasionally

acetaminophen (Tylenol). They all have drawbacks as the side-effects can be

serious if you take too much or take them for too long.

I usually only take the normal dose twice a day. Now and then, if I'm having

an especially busy day I will take a third dose with maybe a fourth dose before

bed (I'm in college right now and working on video projects that require a lot

of physical effort) so I can sleep and actually get out of bed the next morning.

If I were taking the maximum dosage every day then I would try to take a break

from my chosen pain reliever about every 6 weeks or so and spend a week or two

on aspirin or acetaminophen. I don't have digestive problems with my pain

reliever, which I realize is a definite blessing.

Luci

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Aren't Aleve, Motrin, and Advil all from the same family? I confess I didn't

look it up. But aren't they all anti-inflammatories that can cause gastric

distress and kidney damage (like Tylenol's drawback is that it can cause liver

damage)? When you first said you were rotating painkillers, I at first thought

you were taking Tylenol and Aleve in turn, which does make sense.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

I believe they are from the same family, but for some reason and I never checked

it myself.... my doctor said taking the exact same one over and over is what

causes damage. But who knows, he could have been making up an answer to my

" something has to be done, I cannot sleep with the pain and all this aleve can't

be good for me " .

Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote: Aren't Aleve, Motrin, and

Advil all from the same family? I confess I didn't look it up. But aren't they

all anti-inflammatories that can cause gastric distress and kidney damage (like

Tylenol's drawback is that it can cause liver damage)? When you first said you

were rotating painkillers, I at first thought you were taking Tylenol and Aleve

in turn, which does make sense.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Good question... I had to check it out.

Advil and Motrin are an Ibuprofen and Aleve is naproxyn, all 3 are in the same

family but ibuprofen and naproxyn are different in how they reduce pain and

swelling.

Some general rules: If you have stomach problems, go with Tylenol.

Anti-inflammatories can cause gastric irritation, and Tylenol was developed as

an alternative. Some sixteen thousand people die each year from nonsteroidal

anti-inflammatories because of gastrointestinal bleeding, They may be more

efficacious pain medicine, but if you have kidney disease or problems with

ulcers or gastritis, anti-inflammatories are not [a good choice].

Scary stuff... I live on Advil and Aleve with the occassional motrin thrown

in!!

Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

Aren't Aleve, Motrin, and Advil all from the same family? I confess I

didn't look it up. But aren't they all anti-inflammatories that can cause

gastric distress and kidney damage (like Tylenol's drawback is that it can cause

liver damage)? When you first said you were rotating painkillers, I at first

thought you were taking Tylenol and Aleve in turn, which does make sense.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Most -- no, I'm going to say ALL -- the time, I have some pain somewhere, and

I've found it interferes with my going to sleep, so I've been taking 2

extra-strength Tylenols at bedtime for a couple of years. I'm aware that it can

kill your liver, and every time I take them, I worry. I'm going to try taking

Tylenol every other night & some anti-inflammatory every other night & see how

that works w/my stomach. My stomach is very sensitive to acid & I have cycles

of reflux, which is why I haven't been taking anti-inflammatories.

Anyone know of an effective non-Tylenol, non-anti-inflammatory painkiller that

isn't made from heroin or some other addictive drug or those ones that plug you

up like Vicodin (I think that's heroin-based anyway)?

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

Vicodin is an Opium based pain releaver. I really don't know what herion is

made of...

Donna

>Most -- no, I'm going to say ALL -- the time, I have some pain somewhere,

>and I've found it interferes with my going to sleep, so I've been taking 2

>extra-strength Tylenols at bedtime for a couple of years. I'm aware that

>it can kill your liver, and every time I take them, I worry. I'm going to

>try taking Tylenol every other night & some anti-inflammatory every other

>night & see how that works w/my stomach. My stomach is very sensitive to

>acid & I have cycles of reflux, which is why I haven't been taking

>anti-inflammatories.

>

>Anyone know of an effective non-Tylenol, non-anti-inflammatory painkiller

>that isn't made from heroin or some other addictive drug or those ones that

>plug you up like Vicodin (I think that's heroin-based anyway)?

>

>Ann

> Re: Best results with over the

>counter medication

>

> I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

> best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

> also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

> stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

> and pain during exercise.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

> other?

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Heroin is derived from the opium poppy also, just a

different formula than Vicodin. Marijuana is the only

" natural " plant based drug. Brownies, Ann?? <ducking>

nne

Re: Re: Best

results with over the

counter medication

Hi Ann,

Vicodin is an Opium based pain releaver. I really

don't know what herion is

made of...

Donna

>Most -- no, I'm going to say ALL -- the time, I have

some pain somewhere,

>and I've found it interferes with my going to sleep,

so I've been taking 2

>extra-strength Tylenols at bedtime for a couple of

years. I'm aware that

>it can kill your liver, and every time I take them, I

worry. I'm going to

>try taking Tylenol every other night & some

anti-inflammatory every other

>night & see how that works w/my stomach. My stomach

is very sensitive to

>acid & I have cycles of reflux, which is why I

haven't been taking

>anti-inflammatories.

>

>Anyone know of an effective non-Tylenol,

non-anti-inflammatory painkiller

>that isn't made from heroin or some other addictive

drug or those ones that

>plug you up like Vicodin (I think that's heroin-based

anyway)?

>

>Ann

> Re: Best

results with over the

>counter medication

>

> I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I

take. Aleve works

> best for me but I alternate it with motrin and

advil as advised. He

> also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a

full meal to avoid

> stomach damage. Not good news for us members who

are fighting weight

> and pain during exercise.

>

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> > What is the best over the counter medication to

use,advil, aleve

> other?

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[Guest guest]

I got to thinking last night I should have said opium. Opium is the mother of

morphine, heroin, codeine, & those nice painkillers like Vicodin that you get

addicted to (although these might be made synthetically from scratch). Opium

comes from big red poppies that grow in, say, Turkey, Afghanistan -- oh,

probably anywhere you plant them. The seed pod is big & kinda scary knowing

what's in them.

Here's what Purdue horticulture has to say about getting the morphine and

codeine out of the seed pod (You can buy the pods on line, but if you're in the

US, they'll put you away for 20 years if you do):

While nearly all parts of the poppy plant contain a white milky juice or latex,

the unripe capsules, containing the juice in abundance, are used for extraction

of morphine and other alkaloids. Minor alkaloids are extracted from the straw

also. The capsule wall is traversed by a network of branching and anastomosing

lactiferous vessels which contain the latex. In the green unripe capsule, the

latex is richest in morphine; but as they turn yellow and ripen, the morphine

content diminishes and the codeine and narcotine contents increase. Shortly

after the petals and stamens fall, usually in the late afternoon or early

morning while the temperature is low, transverse oblique or ventral incisions

are made in the unripe capsules with a single-bladed knife having one saw edge

or a several-bladed knife, care being taken not to cut through the inner wall of

the capsule lest valuable juice be lost and the seeds injured. The white juice

exudes and soon hardens in the outside wall of the capsule into brownish masses

which are scraped off the following day on a wooden tray. The scrapings are

later transferred to earthen vessels or larger trays or dumped on the ground,

where the opium is kneaded by hand to a uniform consistency. It is then shaped

into balls, cakes, or sticks, ready for marketing. Crude opium from the 3 or 4

lancings should be separated for medicinal use since it contains a higher

percentage of morphine. Codeine content in poppy shows significant variation as

a result of weather and heredity. Morphine content is highest during period

10–30 days after flowering.

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Papaver_somniferum.html

They also sort of hint farther down in the article that there's so much oil in

the pods, maybe we could use poppy oil in our cars instead of gasoline. If we

did, there would be lots of happy people left in our wake.

And this brings up sedation. Y'know how in the movies when Doc is about to

remove a bullet from Deadeye Dan's leg, he gives Deadeye a bottle of whiskey and

a piece of leather to clench his jaws on to help with the pain? The opium poppy

was being grown, and not for interior decoration, in at least 3400 BC (the

Sumerians). It was first brought to the US in 1840. So how come they didn't

use opium on those poor wounded cowboys?

Ann

Re: Best results with over the

>counter medication

>

> I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

> best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

> also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

> stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

> and pain during exercise.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

> other?

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried Valerian -- it's an herbal muscle relaxant, and it might be all

you need to help you get to sleep. It's also helpful to take your calcium and

magnesium supplements at bedtime because they go to work in the body best at

that time and encourage muscle relaxation and sleep.

I wouldn't worry too much about the Tylenol if you're only taking that one

dose a day.

Luci

Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

Most -- no, I'm going to say ALL -- the time, I have some pain

somewhere, and I've found it interferes with my going to sleep, so I've been

taking 2 extra-strength Tylenols at bedtime for a couple of years. I'm aware

that it can kill your liver, and every time I take them, I worry. I'm going to

try taking Tylenol every other night & some anti-inflammatory every other night

& see how that works w/my stomach. My stomach is very sensitive to acid & I have

cycles of reflux, which is why I haven't been taking anti-inflammatories.

Anyone know of an effective non-Tylenol, non-anti-inflammatory painkiller that

isn't made from heroin or some other addictive drug or those ones that plug you

up like Vicodin (I think that's heroin-based anyway)?

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Isn't cocaine plant-based? I had an MJ brownie once. It was pretty good. (If

the DEA is watching our mail -- this was 40 years ago. There must be a statute

of limitations on souped-up brownies.)

Ann

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results with over the

>counter medication

>

> I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I

take. Aleve works

> best for me but I alternate it with motrin and

advil as advised. He

> also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a

full meal to avoid

> stomach damage. Not good news for us members who

are fighting weight

> and pain during exercise.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > What is the best over the counter medication to

use,advil, aleve

> other?

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

The wounded cowboys could have been dosed with laudanum, an opiate used by many

doctors in the 1800's. But, by the later half of the century most people who

considered themselves strong and wanted to stay that way avoided laudanum

because it is highly addictive and clouds the judgment of the user. Alcohol

could help dull the cowboy's pain, and most were familiar with the

side-effects. It's likely the cowboys prefered handling the hang-over to

withdrawal from an opiate. By that time there was also a social stigma

associated with opium dens and opium addicts so laudanum would have been avoided

in all cases but the most drastic -- and possibly those drastic cases were

people who were just being kept comfortable until death claimed them.

Luci

Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

I got to thinking last night I should have said opium. Opium is the mother of

morphine, heroin, codeine, & those nice painkillers like Vicodin that you get

addicted to (although these might be made synthetically from scratch). Opium

comes from big red poppies that grow in, say, Turkey, Afghanistan -- oh,

probably anywhere you plant them. The seed pod is big & kinda scary knowing

what's in them.

Here's what Purdue horticulture has to say about getting the morphine and

codeine out of the seed pod (You can buy the pods on line, but if you're in the

US, they'll put you away for 20 years if you do):

While nearly all parts of the poppy plant contain a white milky juice or latex,

the unripe capsules, containing the juice in abundance, are used for extraction

of morphine and other alkaloids. Minor alkaloids are extracted from the straw

also. The capsule wall is traversed by a network of branching and anastomosing

lactiferous vessels which contain the latex. In the green unripe capsule, the

latex is richest in morphine; but as they turn yellow and ripen, the morphine

content diminishes and the codeine and narcotine contents increase. Shortly

after the petals and stamens fall, usually in the late afternoon or early

morning while the temperature is low, transverse oblique or ventral incisions

are made in the unripe capsules with a single-bladed knife having one saw edge

or a several-bladed knife, care being taken not to cut through the inner wall of

the capsule lest valuable juice be lost and the seeds injured. The white juice

exudes and soon hardens in the outside wall of

the capsule into brownish masses which are scraped off the following day on a

wooden tray. The scrapings are later transferred to earthen vessels or larger

trays or dumped on the ground, where the opium is kneaded by hand to a uniform

consistency. It is then shaped into balls, cakes, or sticks, ready for

marketing. Crude opium from the 3 or 4 lancings should be separated for

medicinal use since it contains a higher percentage of morphine. Codeine content

in poppy shows significant variation as a result of weather and heredity.

Morphine content is highest during period 10–30 days after flowering.

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Papaver_somniferum.html

They also sort of hint farther down in the article that there's so much oil in

the pods, maybe we could use poppy oil in our cars instead of gasoline. If we

did, there would be lots of happy people left in our wake.

And this brings up sedation. Y'know how in the movies when Doc is about to

remove a bullet from Deadeye Dan's leg, he gives Deadeye a bottle of whiskey and

a piece of leather to clench his jaws on to help with the pain? The opium poppy

was being grown, and not for interior decoration, in at least 3400 BC (the

Sumerians). It was first brought to the US in 1840. So how come they didn't use

opium on those poor wounded cowboys?

Ann

Re: Best results with over the

>counter medication

>

> I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

> best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

> also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

> stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

> and pain during exercise.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

> other?

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is, but requires chemicals to be " that fine

white line " you snort up your nose! MJ is as it

is.......

I wish it were more readily available medicinally,

because it certainly could help people with various

symptoms, and IMO it's not as addictive as those

" safe " codeine based pain meds we get from the docs.

That said, I'm not a pothead! ))))

nne

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results with over the

counter medication

Isn't cocaine plant-based? I had an MJ brownie once.

It was pretty good. (If the DEA is watching our mail

-- this was 40 years ago. There must be a statute of

limitations on souped-up brownies.)

Ann

Re: Best

results with over the

>counter medication

>

> I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I

take. Aleve works

> best for me but I alternate it with motrin and

advil as advised. He

> also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a

full meal to avoid

> stomach damage. Not good news for us members who

are fighting weight

> and pain during exercise.

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use,advil, aleve

> other?

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[Guest guest]

Actually I got stranded in Portland by a blizzard last fall (it was a perfectly

fine, sunny day when we left Olympia) and didn't have my meds. So I bought

every herbal that's supposed to help you sleep, plus Benadryl, and, although I

slept, it was light & unpleasant. I think I've got bad wiring. I've had

insomnia since 1971 -- hard time getting to sleep, wake up after 2 hrs, hard

time getting back to sleep, sleep light, have disturbing dreams, including

ghastly morning mares. My father was manic-depressive and I think this is one

of the things I inherited from him.

I haven't been reading the posts for a long time so I've forgotten -- Luci are

you a nurse?

Thanks.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

I did some more reading on the history of opium & its derivatives & was

wondering why they didn't use laudanum, because I know it was around, at least

in the later 19th century. Could they have gotten addicted with one dose?

I think you may be right too -- strength & heroism could have been part of the

gunslinger ethic, so they may have wanted to just tough it out. Or maybe the

whole whiskey/piece of leather thing is just Hollywood.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the

>counter medication

>

> I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

> best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

> also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

> stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

> and pain during exercise.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

> other?

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I've belonged to the group since approx 11/06, since my diagnoses of cms in both

knees, but don't post much. I read everyone's posts and have learned a lot.

Thank you to all! I, unfortunately, am one who has to take Hydrocodone and Soma

(a muscle relaxer) to get any relief at all. Along with Chondromalcia in both

knee's, I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, Sleep Apnea, RLS, Migraines, Acid

Reflux and Crohn's Disease. I had a complete illeostomy in 1989 due to the

Crohn's, so my absorbtion of meds is very poor and it limits what I can eat.

Thus, I have a very low pain tolerance and very high tolerance to meds. The OTC

stuff doesn't touch my pain. I was injured on my job in Dec and tore the ACL in

my L knee, as well as aggravating the cms and fibro. I had surgery in April to

repair the tear and a lateral release. I was started on PT immediately, but

can't say it's done much good. I was released to go back to work 3 weeks after

the surgery, but quit after 2 weeks back. My

manager is a living nightmare-mostly since my injury. Bullying, retribution for

going to employee relations, you name it. She complained that I was too slow in

getting my work done, wrote me up the day I went back and put me on a 90 day

probation. Duh-I can hardly walk. She actually was timing my work. I'm in the

process of getting an attorney, but don't think it will go anywhere. Did I

mention I worked for a doctors office, in a very large health care system? I

worked in medical records, a very physical job. I am very much at peace with my

decision to quit and find something else less physical, I just don't like having

to start over again at my age and with my health issues. I'm 43. About the same

time I went back to work, a bone spur in my R foot started giving me agonizing

pain, slowing me down even more. My doctor sent me to a Podiatrist who has given

me some cortizone shots, the 2nd one having some kind of supposed numbing stuff

in it. Neither gave me any relief. So I

hobble around, my limp changing sides. It really is funny!

I try my best to keep a good sense of humor about everything and stay positive.

I really want to get off these prescription drugs and go more natural. I will

try the Valerian and let you know how it works for me. I already use a liquid

calcium and pill form magnesium without much success.

I welcome any and all suggestions! Thanks for letting me ramble.

Darlena

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Wow! I'm sorry you have so many problems. Regarding your boss, aren't you

covered by ADA? I was covered by ADA and the EEOC handled it, telling my boss

to change one of my job requirements. Unfortunately, I was still on probation,

so they gave me assignments they knew I couldn't do in the time allotted, wrote

me up as being stupid & lazy, & I was eventually sent back to my previous job.

But if you're not on probation, you might have some clout, esp. if you had an

angry lawyer behind you. Good luck!

Have you tried Rx sleep meds? Ambien? Trazodone? I started on Ambien and it

was the first time in 30 yrs I had a real night's sleep. After a while the

Ambien gave me sleep apnea & my doc switched me to Trazodone. Trazodone is

supposed to also dull pain, although it hasn't with me.

I wish you all the luck you can possibly get. All those debilitating

diseases/conditions. It's a wonder you still have a sense of humor.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Darlena,

My name is and I joined this group for my daughter but when I read

your post I felt your pain. I am 36 and feel like I am 90. I was also diagnosed

with Fibromyalgia and barely ever sleep more than 2-3 hours straight at night. I

also have hashimoto's thyroiditis and had a partial thyroidectomy a few years

ago. I also had a hysterectomy and and right ovary removed. I have a hiatel

hernia which causes my acid reflux along with sores in my stomach (probably from

the years of motrin). I was diagnosed with chronic migraines and most treatments

only work for a few months. I often have bouts of depression. I have IBS also

which thankfully is not crohns. I had two foot surgeries due to an injury (the

second one was to correct the mistakes from the first surgeon.) At that time

they had me on Percocet (I can't tolerate Vicodin). My body was dependant on it

so I basically went cold turkey and suffered for two weeks. I don't want to be

dependant on any meds but then again I am so sick and tired of the pain. I don't

know what to do anymore.

I have a high tolerance for pain but enough is enough.

It sure does help to know that others know how I feel. My husband is so mean

about my surgeries and my constant pain. I currently only take motrin and I am

contantly busy with our four kids. I even have coached and referee-ed for

soccer. I just wish he would understand.

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

I was/am under workers comp since I was injured on the job and was covered by

FMLA. I was on work restrictions, which didn't allow me do much, and that

caused a lot of resentment from my co-workers. Employee Health told her if she

couldn't accommodate my restrictions, she would have to find something else for

me to do. It became a double edged sword. She was very strict with my

restrictions, which was good on one hand, but just couldn't seem to grasp that

my physical limitations were the cause of my slowness. She made it all out to be

mental (she said I couldn't stay on task, would do things my own way, regardless

of what I was told, would seem to go off in a daze, etc), and was always looking

for something to write me up about. She even started claiming it went back prior

to my injury. She was good at making things up, her word over mine. I have very

strong work ethics, and have always just done whatever needed to be done. I

don't believe in " that's not my job " . Also my

PCP was the director of the center I worked at and I can't prove it, but I

think he told her things about me and she has access to my chart, which violates

HPPA. My immediate supervisor told me prior to my surgery to watch my back, that

this mgr wanted to fire me. This came as no suprise to me. I was definetly

targeted. I haven't thought about the ADA or EEOC. I will look into this. I

tried posting to other positions outside of this center, but nothing ever came

up. Then when she put me on probation, I became ineligible to post. Maybe I

shouldn't have quit, but I really am at peace about it. Physically, it was

taking its toll on my body and mentally, she was taking her toll on me. Everyone

around me saw it, but no one will stand up to her. I feel I am well out of the

situation and look forward to finding a new position. I believe God doesn't

place in these situations, but He use them to teach us. I'm still looking for

the lesson, but I know He won't give me more than I can

handle. My body doesn't always feel that way. Most times I feel like I am very

old in my 43 yr old body.

I have tried Ambien, Lunesta, Xanax and Trazadone They worked for a time, then

gradually loose their effectiveness on me. I tend to build up a tolerance very

fast. Right now, I am taking Rozeram, but only sparingly. One of the great

benefits of working there was getting a lot of samples and not having to pay my

co-pay. Now my insurance is going to lapse since I quit so I am trying to get as

many RX's filled and doctor appts out of the way before it does. I won't go back

to my doctor there-I don't trust him. So I'm having my records transferred to

another center. Thankfully, the workers comp will continue to cover my knee till

that doctor releases me. I don't see that happening for awhile.

On top of all this, my mother died very suddenly on March 4, after just 2 weeks

of being diagnosed with cancer. She was in Atlanta and I live in Jax, FL. I took

a leave of absence to be with her in Hospice that last week, but she was so far

gone at that point, she barely knew we were there. She had cancer in most of her

body, but the main cause was a huge mass in her lung. She literally drowned from

the fluid in her lungs. It was agonizing to watch. My brother went on a tirad at

me right after she died in her room, blocking me in - he literally parked his

truck behind my car. I had to call the police to leave. I know people grieve

differently, but I still don't know what triggered him. I worked for a life

insurance company for 7 years handling death claims. I have heard a lot of

horror strories. We haven't spoken since. He has tried to communicate with me,

not to apologize, he doesn't think he did anything wrong. I refuse to put myself

in the position for more abuse, either

from my brother or former boss. I've just given it up to God to handle. I just

want to be out of pain, lol, and have peace in my life.

Thanks again for letting me vent, Darlena

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Bless you ,

I feel for you and know how hard it is to cope with little or no sleep, let

alone deal with a family member who won't understand. I once told my doctor that

I wished he and some others could just live ONE DAY in my shoes, they would have

a totally different percpective. He just says I need to execercise. Hard to do

when both knees are shot and my R foot has a bone spur that sometimes hurts

worse than my knees.

You are outstanding to keep going with four kids! I was a single parent for all

of my dtr's life. She is now 20, very independent and out on her own. Wish I

could say she was totally understanding of my health issue's. For the most part,

she tries, but listens to my brother too much, who thinks I am lazy and it's all

in my head. I deliberately avoid making plans because I never know how I am

going to feel. I have been in a relationship with a wonderful, understanding

man for the past 2 1/2 yrs. We are planning on getting married soon. I would

never consider it if he showed any signs of not understanding that I may get

worse with time. He has been totally supportive of my quitting my job, even

encouraged it. He understands the meds I take and the need for them. He was

wonderful when I had my knee surgery, getting up every few hours to make sure

that cold pack thing always had ice in it. With everything I've been through,

God had truely blessed me with a wonderful soulmate.

We have our differences and fights, but all in all, he makes things easier for

me for the first time in my life.

Have you tried educating your husband on your conditions? I found that sending

Max links to websites to research on his own was very awakening for him. That

awareness factor kicked in. Keep me posted and write anytime. I know what you

are going through. Darlena

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Wow! Does your fiancé have any clones? I live alone, but have only ever known

one man who would be so understanding and helpful. Unfortunately, he's been

happily married for only 3 years, so there's no hope there.

It's really hell when you have someone at home and they're anti-supportive. I

feel for you . It just makes your situation worse.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Nope, I'm not a nurse. And I haven't been posting in a long while, so you

wouldn't have missed me telling about myself. I'm a middle-aged college

student.

Luci

Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

Actually I got stranded in Portland by a blizzard last fall (it was a

perfectly fine, sunny day when we left Olympia) and didn't have my meds. So I

bought every herbal that's supposed to help you sleep, plus Benadryl, and,

although I slept, it was light & unpleasant. I think I've got bad wiring. I've

had insomnia since 1971 -- hard time getting to sleep, wake up after 2 hrs, hard

time getting back to sleep, sleep light, have disturbing dreams, including

ghastly morning mares. My father was manic-depressive and I think this is one of

the things I inherited from him.

I haven't been reading the posts for a long time so I've forgotten -- Luci are

you a nurse?

Thanks.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I don't know how readily available laudanum was in the west. But I'm

fairly sure the whiskey was easier to come by. And possibly, taking

impressionable audiences into consideration, Hollywood didn't want to risk

encouraging drug use -- and/or alienate potential advertisers (whiskey labels).

There is debate on whether a person can get addicted on just one dose of

opiates. Apparently there are some who claim it is possible. Or perhaps it

wouldn't have been their first dose (dentists used it, too) and the cowboys

might worry that any further exposure would put them at risk. Still, I think

the macho image is probably at least as much to blame.

Luci

Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

I did some more reading on the history of opium & its derivatives &

was wondering why they didn't use laudanum, because I know it was around, at

least in the later 19th century. Could they have gotten addicted with one dose?

I think you may be right too -- strength & heroism could have been part of the

gunslinger ethic, so they may have wanted to just tough it out. Or maybe the

whole whiskey/piece of leather thing is just Hollywood.

Ann

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> and pain during exercise.

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[Guest guest]

I'm an old person having a mid-life crisis.

Ann

Re: Best results with over the counter

medication

I was told by my doctor to rotate what medicine I take. Aleve works

best for me but I alternate it with motrin and advil as advised. He

also said Aleve and Advil must be taken with a full meal to avoid

stomach damage. Not good news for us members who are fighting weight

and pain during exercise.

>

> What is the best over the counter medication to use,advil, aleve

other?

>