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Chuck,

The best way to get an overview of informatics is to take the intro course

at OHSU through the dept of informatics. You can get a nice intro to stats

from a book called " Understanding biostatistics. " I don't have the info on

it at home, but if you call me Monday, it's at my office. You can easily get

an online course in biostatistics through the Supercourse internet lecture

series. I would recommend

http://www.pitt.edu/~super1/lecture/lec0421/index.htm for a nice start in

descriptive stats, then you can look around and see what else peaks your

interest.

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> Hi All,

> I am looking for some coursework, preferably online, on 1.) medical

> informatics and 2.) statistics. Anyone have any hot ideas?

> Thanks,

> Chuck Simpson

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Sorry, " peaks " should have read " piques. " Must be jet lag.

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> > Hi All,

> > I am looking for some coursework, preferably online, on 1.) medical

> > informatics and 2.) statistics. Anyone have any hot ideas?

> > Thanks,

> > Chuck Simpson

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No, sorry, I haven't heard of anything. Recently I did a fairly

comprehensive search on this type of thing and necver came across his

name.

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On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:29:47 -0000 " Harvey (Library) "

<harveyp@...> wrote:

> Hello

>

> I've been asked to find some work by Hepper about antenatal

> factors and postnatal depression. I've drawn a blank with Medline, BNI,

> HMIC, Cochrane, Trip etc.

>

> Can anyone help me out with this one?

>

> thanks

>

>

> Harvey

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>From: " Harvey (Library) " <harveyp@...>

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>Subject: Query

>Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 17:29:47 -0000

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>Hello

>

>I've been asked to find some work by Hepper about antenatal factors

>and postnatal depression. I've drawn a blank with Medline, BNI, HMIC,

>Cochrane, Trip etc.

>

>Can anyone help me out with this one?

>

>thanks

>

>

> Harvey

>Assistant Information Officer

>Community Practitioners' and Health Visitors' Association

>40 Bermondsey St, London, SE1 3UD

>Tel. 0207 939 7064 Fax. 0207 939 7034

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Dear ,

I had a look in three texts for Hepper and drew a blank. Its a name

I am not familiar with. If you send me more information about his work etc.

I could look again. I ought to point out that I am not a librarian or

particularly own a mine of information but only have a research interest in

postnatal interest!

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Dear ,

Is there any chance the original request was a little mixed up and really wanted

, who has written very extensively on this topic?

Best wishes,

Woody.

> Hello

>

> I've been asked to find some work by Hepper about antenatal factors

> and postnatal depression. I've drawn a blank with Medline, BNI, HMIC,

> Cochrane, Trip etc.

>

> Can anyone help me out with this one?

>

> thanks

>

>

> Harvey

> Assistant Information Officer

> Community Practitioners' and Health Visitors' Association

> 40 Bermondsey St, London, SE1 3UD

> Tel. 0207 939 7064 Fax. 0207 939 7034

>

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On 29 Jan 01, at 8:39, 's Garden wrote:

> Hi,

> Regarding question on potassium..........

> Potassium metabisufite is used as a preservative, antiseptic,

> antioxidant or

> as a developing agent in dyes. It is reputed to have low toxicity,

> however

> Aubrey Hampton in his book on cosmetic ingredients states that he does

> not

> recommend it on hair or skin. I hope that helps.....

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> Thanks, that answers the question

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In a message dated 8/15/01 4:20:54 PM EST, ansurka@... writes:

<< Hi,

Hope you can give a little guidance as many of you have children

older than mine. is 7 1/2yrs and still in nappies, most people I

know with children with Downs are toilet trained, so now wandering if

this is a part of dual diagnosis?

Not bothered about his incontinance but reading postings I think it

seems quite comon for our kids to take a lot longer than a child with

just Downs..am I right?

. >>

Hi ,

My son is still in diapers (age 9 )and we are trying to get him to toilet

train, but it has been tough. He doesn't seem to notice he's got to go so all

we're able to do is " catch " him to avoid an accident. The school is also

working on this too. I did find something that may help other's who are

training.....my son would pee on the furniture or the rug between times of

sitting on the toilet. I purchased a cheap shower curtain to spread on my

sofa and put another curtain on the rug where he would do most of his

sitting. This way I was able to clean up his accident and allow him to wear

cotton briefs and feel the wet pants. He seems to notice the wetness more

when we're doing it this way.

Judy

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In a message dated 8/15/01 10:17:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

cmagnussen@... writes:

<< I count one to four and prompt her

to say 5 then we quit as soon as she says it. Gives her a feeling of

control. I am really hoping that she will regain the ability to sense and

act upon it when she has to pee.

Cheryl >>

Cool, cool, cool idea!!!!!!

Gail

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Angel who is 5.5 was totally trained and was progressing normally for a

child with DS, until this last year. She regressed and lost this skill when

the autism began to emerge more. She will use the toilet if you direct her

to right prior to a preferred activity. If she doesn't want to sit I tell

her 'just to 5.' 5 almost always works to get through undesired activities,

as she loves to count to 5, so I count really slowly to get things like hair

brushing and washing, etc accomplished. I count one to four and prompt her

to say 5 then we quit as soon as she says it. Gives her a feeling of

control. I am really hoping that she will regain the ability to sense and

act upon it when she has to pee.

Cheryl

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> In a message dated 8/15/01 4:20:54 PM EST, ansurka@... writes:

>

> << Hi,

> Hope you can give a little guidance as many of you have children

> older than mine. is 7 1/2yrs and still in nappies, most people I

> know with children with Downs are toilet trained, so now wandering if

> this is a part of dual diagnosis?

> Not bothered about his incontinance but reading postings I think it

> seems quite comon for our kids to take a lot longer than a child with

> just Downs..am I right?

> . >>

> Hi ,

> My son is still in diapers (age 9 )and we are trying to get him to

toilet

> train, but it has been tough. He doesn't seem to notice he's got to go so

all

> we're able to do is " catch " him to avoid an accident. The school is also

> working on this too. I did find something that may help other's who are

> training.....my son would pee on the furniture or the rug between times of

> sitting on the toilet. I purchased a cheap shower curtain to spread on my

> sofa and put another curtain on the rug where he would do most of his

> sitting. This way I was able to clean up his accident and allow him to

wear

> cotton briefs and feel the wet pants. He seems to notice the wetness more

> when we're doing it this way.

> Judy

>

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My little one (Nick) is still in diapers and he turned 7 on 7/9. He

occasionally

will go when they put on the potty at school as part of his " hygiene " but I

think it may be by accident...he shows absolutely NO interest at home! I have a

few friends with kids who just have Downs and they were toilet trained at Nick's

age.

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Hi,

Hope you can give a little guidance as many of you have children

older than mine. is 7 1/2yrs and still in nappies, most people I

know with children with Downs are toilet trained, so now wandering if

this is a part of dual diagnosis?

Not bothered about his incontinance but reading postings I think it

seems quite comon for our kids to take a lot longer than a child with

just Downs..am I right?

.

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Hi ,

Your inquiry mind is correct in the toilet issue . Yes , it does take

longer for our kids to understand it . Its all a matter of schedule

training, turning it into a habit routine also if medical is ruled

out . My son is 13 yrs. old , Last Thurs . , he seemed ready by

removing his pull-up and wanting to wipe himself . Thats when I had

decided to go cold turkey . No pull-ups , so he is wearing underwear,

going on day 7 . Right now he is at that stage were he needs to get

the hang of feeling wet , which takes their brain to understand its

not right and as I understand it takes long . Its a roller-coaster

ride at this time . Once I started hearing and reading about our kids

having a dual diagnosis and found out the reason it took longer for

our kids to be potty trained . I was very happy to find this

information and yes, our kids our not just typical Downs . I like

unique things and like being different , so I guess this is ONE of

the reason I was chosen to have a challenge child . Good Luck with

.

Irma , 13 , DS/ASD.

> Hi,

> Hope you can give a little guidance as many of you have children

> older than mine. is 7 1/2yrs and still in nappies, most people

I

> know with children with Downs are toilet trained, so now wandering

if

> this is a part of dual diagnosis?

> Not bothered about his incontinance but reading postings I think

it

> seems quite comon for our kids to take a lot longer than a child

with

> just Downs..am I right?

> .

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Trisha is 9 yrs old and still is not potty trained. We've made progress over

this past year but not enough to take her out of the pull-ups. She will

ocassinally go to the potty by herself but not on a regular basis.

Carol

TrishasMom

She isn't typical, She's Trisha

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I think the autism makes it a harder thing to learn too. is now 10

(we started at 3yrs of age) and is finally even taking himself ocasionally.

Hasnt worn a pull up in a good month now, day or night. He still but few in

between has an accident in his pants. It was soo funny i think it ws last

week, he came out of the toy room (it right next to our family room so we

can see/hear him easily)anyways, he came out and looked like he was trying

to hold a penny between his legs,lol, his pants were a little wet, and he

was holding himself---he really had to go and shouldnt of waited I guess,

but he slowly got to the bathroom and let'er rip, and he went and went and

went,lol. WE didnt laugh at him or anything we just all thought it was cute

and funny and a good goal he is reaching, he new he had to go and found

outthe consequences if try to hold it too long, just for toys. Just keep

working on it, it will come.

shawna

>From: Cheryl Magnussen <cmagnussen@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Query

>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:12:29 -0700

>

>,

>Angel who is 5.5 was totally trained and was progressing normally for a

>child with DS, until this last year. She regressed and lost this skill

>when

>the autism began to emerge more. She will use the toilet if you direct her

>to right prior to a preferred activity. If she doesn't want to sit I tell

>her 'just to 5.' 5 almost always works to get through undesired

>activities,

>as she loves to count to 5, so I count really slowly to get things like

>hair

>brushing and washing, etc accomplished. I count one to four and prompt her

>to say 5 then we quit as soon as she says it. Gives her a feeling of

>control. I am really hoping that she will regain the ability to sense and

>act upon it when she has to pee.

>

>Cheryl

> Re: Query

>

>

> > In a message dated 8/15/01 4:20:54 PM EST, ansurka@... writes:

> >

> > << Hi,

> > Hope you can give a little guidance as many of you have children

> > older than mine. is 7 1/2yrs and still in nappies, most people I

> > know with children with Downs are toilet trained, so now wandering if

> > this is a part of dual diagnosis?

> > Not bothered about his incontinance but reading postings I think it

> > seems quite comon for our kids to take a lot longer than a child with

> > just Downs..am I right?

> > . >>

> > Hi ,

> > My son is still in diapers (age 9 )and we are trying to get him to

>toilet

> > train, but it has been tough. He doesn't seem to notice he's got to go

>so

>all

> > we're able to do is " catch " him to avoid an accident. The school is also

> > working on this too. I did find something that may help other's who are

> > training.....my son would pee on the furniture or the rug between times

>of

> > sitting on the toilet. I purchased a cheap shower curtain to spread on

>my

> > sofa and put another curtain on the rug where he would do most of his

> > sitting. This way I was able to clean up his accident and allow him to

>wear

> > cotton briefs and feel the wet pants. He seems to notice the wetness

>more

> > when we're doing it this way.

> > Judy

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------

> > Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos

>of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by

>including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the

>archives for our list.

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> >

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Great questions, Sunny. I hope some fo the non members wrestle with them. Ann Goldeen, D.C.

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Colleagues,Last evening I had the privilege to sit with the CAO and ODOC boards, working to reach consensus on issues cogent to the practice and development of chiropractic in Oregon. One of our sager members noted that our collective membership left a larger (missing/unrepresented) contingent as the 'majority' 'party' if you will. His thoughts echoed in my brain all the way home, finally coalescing in two questions that I share with/ask you today.With all due respect, in a non-challenging way and with full curiosity:For those of you who chose not to join either state organization: 1) How do you propose you BE represented? 2) Beyond diluting the strength of the profession in Oregon, what do you perceive your choice of non-participation achieves?Respectfully, Sunny KierstynSunny Kierstyn, RN DCFibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon59 Santa Clara St.,Eugene, Oregon, 97404541-689-0935OregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

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Dear Sunny

I'm not a member of the CAO or any other state organization. I'am

however A member of the ACA and currently the alternate delicate from

the state of Oregon. I have over the past 18 years served on five

different managed-care Board of Directors. I also served for five years

on the independent physicians medical advisory Board of Central Oregon.

I have gone to Washington DC on two different occasions to lobby with

the ACA. I currently serve on the Board of Trustees of Western states

chiropractic college as the treasurer. I have been on the Board of

Trustees for six years. I believe that I have been as active in the

profession as could be expected. As you can imagine serving on these

various committees and boards is very time-consuming and costly to the

practice. I support to CAO PAC regularly. There comes a time that a

line has to be drawn on the time and financial commitments. I hope that

this will explain why this chiropractic physician has not joined a state

organization.

Rodney J. Cross

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Colleagues,

Last evening I had the privilege to sit with the CAO and ODOC boards,

working to reach consensus on issues cogent to the practice and

development

of chiropractic in Oregon. One of our sager members noted that our

collective membership left a larger (missing/unrepresented) contingent

as

the 'majority' 'party' if you will. His thoughts echoed in my brain all

the

way home, finally coalescing in two questions that I share with/ask you

today.

With all due respect, in a non-challenging way and with full curiosity:

For those of you who chose not to join either state organization:

1) How do you propose you BE represented?

2) Beyond diluting the strength of the profession

in

Oregon, what do you perceive your choice of non-participation achieves?

Respectfully, Sunny Kierstyn

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

59 Santa Clara St.,

Eugene, Oregon, 97404

541-689-0935

OregonDCs rules:

1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to

foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve

members will be tolerated.

2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.

3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere.

However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print,

forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another

member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have

been removed.

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Sunny,

It is like if you don't vote in an election. You don't learn the measures

and how they effect you. Whereas voting gives you a voice in the process

and an impetus to educate yourself on the issues. Membership does the

same thing. " You don't realize how much of a voice you have until you

show up for a meeting " , a new city councilman I spoke to last Tuesday. So

few people participate that one voice really makes a difference.

Ted

Ted Forcum, DC, DACBSP, FICC, CSCS

Medical Director, 2005 Portland US Figure Skating Championships

Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC

11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road

Beaverton, Oregon 97008

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:04:29 -0800 " sunny Kierstyn " <skrndc1@...>

writes:

>

>

> Colleagues,

>

> Last evening I had the privilege to sit with the CAO and ODOC

> boards,

> working to reach consensus on issues cogent to the practice and

> development

> of chiropractic in Oregon. One of our sager members noted that our

>

> collective membership left a larger (missing/unrepresented)

> contingent as

> the 'majority' 'party' if you will. His thoughts echoed in my brain

> all the

> way home, finally coalescing in two questions that I share with/ask

> you

> today.

>

> With all due respect, in a non-challenging way and with full

> curiosity:

>

> For those of you who chose not to join either state organization:

>

> 1) How do you propose you BE represented?

>

> 2) Beyond diluting the strength of the

> profession in

> Oregon, what do you perceive your choice of non-participation

> achieves?

>

>

> Respectfully, Sunny Kierstyn

>

> Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

> Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

> 59 Santa Clara St.,

> Eugene, Oregon, 97404

> 541-689-0935

>

>

>

>

>

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<<<Did anyone feel like once they started that their bodies were " burning

out " ?>>>

I got burned out when I thought if I did twice as much lifting in one day, I

would see results faster than expected. The only thing that happened was a

major crash. It was at the end of my first challenge and I ended up taking a

week off to recover.

Just my experience,

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No, I never felt like I was burning out. Quite the opposite,

actually. I felt more energized each day. Planning my workouts on

paper, completing them and making notes like Bill suggests in the

BFL book (i.e. 'Wow'! or 'Go higher next time') really pumped me

up. I looked forward to the next day, every day.

Maybe some of that was because I was able to get the eating figured

out pretty quickly- the right combinations and portions for my body

and my goals. It all worked together really well.

Are you feeling burned out? In what ways?

Best of luck to you- let us know how you are doing.

Annie

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>

> Hey all,

> Did anyone feel like once they started that their bodies

were " burning

> out " ?

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Nope. When I started out on this whole crazy " fitness thing " five years

ago, all I did was about 10 minutes of resistance exercises using my

body weight. After a couple months of that, I figured well heck, I may

as well start taking after dinner walks for 15 minutes. Next thing you

know I was giving up my 600 calorie a day International Coffees habit.

It sort of snow-balled from there, but the main point is that I

gradually worked up to the two hours of daily exercise that I do now.

There's no way I could have started out that way--it takes time to work

it into your schedule, and for your body to incorporate all the new

nutritious foods, and to get your brain wrapped around the idea that

you're now a person who takes care of herself.

Especially when you're an old fart (47) like I am, you can't just launch

all gung-ho into a new exercise program, or you almost certainly will

burn out, assuming you haven't injured yourself first.

Naomi

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naomi

what do you do for 2 hours/day?

felicity

> Nope. When I started out on this whole crazy " fitness thing " five

> years

> ago, all I did was about 10 minutes of resistance exercises using my

> body weight. After a couple months of that, I figured well heck, I may

> as well start taking after dinner walks for 15 minutes. Next thing you

> know I was giving up my 600 calorie a day International Coffees habit.

>

> It sort of snow-balled from there, but the main point is that I

> gradually worked up to the two hours of daily exercise that I do now.

> There's no way I could have started out that way--it takes time to

> work

> it into your schedule, and for your body to incorporate all the new

> nutritious foods, and to get your brain wrapped around the idea that

> you're now a person who takes care of herself.

>

> Especially when you're an old fart (47) like I am, you can't just

> launch

> all gung-ho into a new exercise program, or you almost certainly will

> burn out, assuming you haven't injured yourself first.

>

> Naomi

> ******

>

> Littlestthings wrote:

>> <<<Did anyone feel like once they started that their bodies were

>> " burning out " ?>>>

>>

>>

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On strength-training days (3x a week), my workout takes about an hour,

followed by 20 min HIIT cardio.

On cardio days (3x a week), I do 15 min LISS, 30 min HIIT, 15 min LISS.

Then, on a daily basis, I walk or bike as much as possible, so I'm often

active for 3 or 4 hours. I live in a down-town area, so I walk to the

grocery store half a mile away and haul 30-40 pounds of groceries in my

tote bags on the way back; I bike to the video rental store; I walk to

the movie theatre, ATM machine, mall, post office, etc etc.

Naomi

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> naomi

> what do you do for 2 hours/day?

> felicity

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very very cool

why do you do so much cardio?

enjoy it? leaning down?

felicity

> On strength-training days (3x a week), my workout takes about an hour,

> followed by 20 min HIIT cardio.

>

> On cardio days (3x a week), I do 15 min LISS, 30 min HIIT, 15 min

> LISS.

>

> Then, on a daily basis, I walk or bike as much as possible, so I'm

> often

> active for 3 or 4 hours. I live in a down-town area, so I walk to the

> grocery store half a mile away and haul 30-40 pounds of groceries

> in my

> tote bags on the way back; I bike to the video rental store; I walk to

> the movie theatre, ATM machine, mall, post office, etc etc.

>

> Naomi

> ******

>> naomi

>> what do you do for 2 hours/day?

>> felicity

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I think this would depend on your circumstance. I know I was feeling

burnt out (overtraining) but that was because I was doing more than

the BFL program. I had a 'more is better' attitude, and doing HIIT 2X

a day did me in!

I also feel burnt out if I don't get sufficient sleep. Now that I

follow BFL eating, I can feel burnt out if I treat myself to something

with a lot of sugar, or drink any alcohol.

What could be doing it to you?

>>>> Did anyone feel like once they started that their bodies

were " burning

> out " ?

>

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It sounds contradictory, but cardio gives me energy. If I don't do

cardio in the morning, I'm dragging around all day.

Naomi

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> very very cool

> why do you do so much cardio?

> enjoy it? leaning down?

> felicity

>

>

> > On strength-training days (3x a week), my workout takes about an hour,

> > followed by 20 min HIIT cardio.

> >

> > On cardio days (3x a week), I do 15 min LISS, 30 min HIIT, 15 min

> > LISS.

> >

> > Then, on a daily basis, I walk or bike as much as possible, so I'm

> > often

> > active for 3 or 4 hours. I live in a down-town area, so I walk to the

> > grocery store half a mile away and haul 30-40 pounds of groceries

> > in my

> > tote bags on the way back; I bike to the video rental store; I walk to

> > the movie theatre, ATM machine, mall, post office, etc etc.

> >

> > Naomi

> > ******

> >> naomi

> >> what do you do for 2 hours/day?

> >> felicity

>

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