book

[Guest guest]

No,

But it sounds great! Want to get it.

[Guest guest]

No but a friend of mine from highschool had a set of twins.. recently,

and last I heard one of the children is " normal " and the other has the

designer gene.

Can that happen with identical twins? I was thinking since it supposedly

happens at the beginning cell divisions that it could. But this book and

my friend seems to have Fraternal twins.

Thanks .. I hope it's a good one.. I will look into it myself at the

library.

Steph

" Truth is not determined by a majority vote. "

-Cardinal ph Ratzinger

http://360./rnscarlson

book

Have any of you read this book?

Is it any good?

My area MOMS Club is reading it for their book club this

month

Just wanted some feedback before purchasing this book

The Memory Keeper's Daughter

By Kim

Book Review

http://www.bookpage.com/0507bp/fiction/memory_keepers_daugh

ter.html

Massachusetts

[Guest guest]

I would say the only way that could have with identical twins is in the case

of mosaic which happens during the early cell division after conception....

possibly in one of the twins the extra chromosone could happen but it would

not be in all the cells but only some of the lines depending on which cells

were involved with the extra chromosone

book

>

> Have any of you read this book?

> Is it any good?

> My area MOMS Club is reading it for their book club this

> month

> Just wanted some feedback before purchasing this book

>

> The Memory Keeper's Daughter

> By Kim

>

>

> Book Review

> http://www.bookpage.com/0507bp/fiction/memory_keepers_daugh

> ter.html

> Massachusetts

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>Can that happen with identical twins? I was thinking since it supposedly

>happens at the beginning cell divisions that it could. But this book and

>my friend seems to have Fraternal twins.

>

OK, I haven't taught genetics for 15 years now, but if I remember

correctly, to get plain old, 100% trisomy 21 then the extra chromosome

21 comes from a chromosomal non-disjunction in either the egg or the

sperm. This gives 2 copies of chromosome 21 instead of the normal 1

copy. When the egg and sperm join, you have a fertilized egg containing

3 copies of chromosome 21. So, if you have twins (one with and one w/o

DS), I would think they would have to be dizygotic (.... from two

eggs.... " fraternal " ) twins. Once the egg is fertilized, then any

non-disjunction that occurs will give an individual with mosiac DS,

since not all the cells will be affected by the trisomy. So, you could

have monozygotic (one egg.... " identical " ) twins where one had mosiac

DS, but I don't think you can have monozygotic twins where one twin has

trisomy 21. Maybe there is a way with rare translocations, but I think

for the most part, twins where one child has DS and other other doesn't

are fraternal twins.

, mom to (10), (8 DS), and (6)

[Guest guest]

I haven't read it, but just reading what it's about made me get tears in my

eyes.

Eleanor

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Subject: book

Have any of you read this book?

Is it any good?

My area MOMS Club is reading it for their book club this

month

Just wanted some feedback before purchasing this book

The Memory Keeper's Daughter

By Kim

Book Review

http://www.bookpage.com/0507bp/fiction/memory_keepers_daugh

ter.html

Have you ever wondered how a single decision might affect

every aspect of your entire life? Kim ,

award-winning author of the short story collection The

Secrets of a Fire King, addresses this question in her new

novel, The Memory Keeper's Daughter.

Henry, a doctor who has escaped his humble beginnings

in rural Pennsylvania, moves to Lexington, Kentucky, to

begin his career. There, he meets Norah Asher, whom he

marries after a brief but intense relationship. A year

later, on a very snowy night in 1964, a pregnant Norah goes

into labor—and and his trusted nurse, Caroline Gill,

are the only witnesses to a heart-wrenching surprise: the

birth of twins, one a perfectly healthy boy, the other a

girl with the classic symptoms of Down syndrome.

Dr. Henry, convinced that his daughter's condition will

only cause his family heartache and suffering, commands

that Caroline immediately take her to an institution—and

tells his wife that their daughter died at birth in order

to protect her. It is this fateful decision that continues

to haunt the novel's characters for years to come.

Caroline attempts to follow Dr. Henry's wishes, but finds

herself unable to leave the infant, Phoebe, and vanishes

with her to start a new life. Norah, oblivious to the

situation, feels an infinite void at the loss of her

daughter, which leads her to withdraw from her marriage.

, who is constantly consumed by his dishonesty and

guilt, turns to photography in an attempt to freeze the

fleeting but distinct moments that make up life. The twins

grow up in different states, sharing many traits but

unaware of one another's existence.

takes on many themes in this novel, including the

burden of secrets, the loneliness of a disintegrating

marriage, the heartache and triumph of raising

children—and, most pointedly, the need for developmentally

disabled children to feel accepted by society. The Memory

Keeper's Daughter reveals the strength of family bonds

under unique and difficult circumstances.

Zibart writes from New York City

C- Mom to 4- Robbie (8), Zoë (7), (3), and

Drew (1).

Massachusetts

[Guest guest]

I read the book a few month ago and did enjoy it. It wasn't so much about the

child w/ DS, but how the Mom reacted about loosing her child. The woman who

raises Phoebe does a wonderful job.

Connie

Mom to Ben 7w/DS Angie 19 and Tyson 28

book

Have any of you read this book?

Is it any good?

My area MOMS Club is reading it for their book club this

month

Just wanted some feedback before purchasing this book

The Memory Keeper's Daughter

By Kim

Book Review

http://www.bookpage.com/0507bp/fiction/memory_keepers_daugh

ter.html

Have you ever wondered how a single decision might affect

every aspect of your entire life? Kim ,

award-winning author of the short story collection The

Secrets of a Fire King, addresses this question in her new

novel, The Memory Keeper's Daughter.

Henry, a doctor who has escaped his humble beginnings

in rural Pennsylvania, moves to Lexington, Kentucky, to

begin his career. There, he meets Norah Asher, whom he

marries after a brief but intense relationship. A year

later, on a very snowy night in 1964, a pregnant Norah goes

into labor-and and his trusted nurse, Caroline Gill,

are the only witnesses to a heart-wrenching surprise: the

birth of twins, one a perfectly healthy boy, the other a

girl with the classic symptoms of Down syndrome.

Dr. Henry, convinced that his daughter's condition will

only cause his family heartache and suffering, commands

that Caroline immediately take her to an institution-and

tells his wife that their daughter died at birth in order

to protect her. It is this fateful decision that continues

to haunt the novel's characters for years to come.

Caroline attempts to follow Dr. Henry's wishes, but finds

herself unable to leave the infant, Phoebe, and vanishes

with her to start a new life. Norah, oblivious to the

situation, feels an infinite void at the loss of her

daughter, which leads her to withdraw from her marriage.

, who is constantly consumed by his dishonesty and

guilt, turns to photography in an attempt to freeze the

fleeting but distinct moments that make up life. The twins

grow up in different states, sharing many traits but

unaware of one another's existence.

takes on many themes in this novel, including the

burden of secrets, the loneliness of a disintegrating

marriage, the heartache and triumph of raising

children-and, most pointedly, the need for developmentally

disabled children to feel accepted by society. The Memory

Keeper's Daughter reveals the strength of family bonds

under unique and difficult circumstances.

Zibart writes from New York City

C- Mom to 4- Robbie (8), Zoë (7), (3), and

Drew (1).

Massachusetts

[Guest guest]

Did you try a search with google? I got some results but saw the same

title for a book on OCD and then one on encopresis, so not sure which

you are looking for? Do a search for

book " the secret problem "

and see what turns up.

>

> suggested a book called 'The Secret Problem' for

> teens. Has anyone found it. I can't.

>

[Guest guest]

Did you try a search with google? I got some results but saw the same

title for a book on OCD and then one on encopresis, so not sure which

you are looking for? Do a search for

book " the secret problem "

and see what turns up.

>

> suggested a book called 'The Secret Problem' for

> teens. Has anyone found it. I can't.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/27/2006 2:48:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lynnovale@... writes:

suggested a book called 'The Secret Problem' for

teens. Has anyone found it. I can't.

I found something on the Internet - it's a website in Australia... seems

that's the only way to order it - directly from the authors (at least, the only

way I could find). Check out the link below. On the left side is a " How to

Order " link. I can't believe we can't find someplace in the US that sells it.

LT

_http://www.shrinkrap.com.au/thesecretproblem.html_

(http://www.shrinkrap.com.au/thesecretproblem.html)

[Guest guest]

>>I could attend a book club meeting this weekend, and I might. They are

>>discussing the book called CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME ,

>>by MArk Haddon.<<

I read this book a couple of years ago when it first came out. It has been

very big in Britain and has raised the profile of ASD. It gives a very good

insight into the world of an ASD person (although it does not ever say that

the hero has ASD).

in England

[Guest guest]

I have read this book and it is worth reading. Very interesting and it is from an Autistic boy's view about what goes on, how he sees the world, etc. The author taught Autistic children and I think he has a son that is Autistic as well, but don't hold me to it, because it's been awhile since I've read it. When someone told me about this book, it also came in a bright orange cover ... so that Autistic children would pick it out!!! Smart move! It is a very enjoyable book. I hope you will enjoy it as well. Meshel :)Laha1960@... wrote: I could attend a book club meeting this weekend, and I might. They are discussing the book called CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME , by MArk Haddon. Anyway, it is about an autistic boy etc. It looks so interesting. The books takes a look at how his thinking goes and some of the ways that he views things, I am told. This book club is at a private camp ground, resort camp ground where we have land and a trailer that we own and we can participate in the weekend programs and they have book clubs, and I saw this title was this month's book being discussed Sat at 9 AM. If I go to this, and I hope I CAN read part of the book first, or all of it eventually, I hope to learn a lot about what others think. I have heard

of this book before, as my son is Aspergers and ADHD and sounds a bit like this boy in the book in some ways. Has anyone else read this book??? in IL

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[Guest guest]

I have the book and have read the first 3 chapters. I have never been able

to finish it and now that my son has been diagnosed with asperger's that

might be why I couldn't - I could see him alot in the book. My sister loves

the book.

>From: Laha1960@...

>Reply-Autism and Aspergers Treatment

>undisclosed-recipients:;

>Subject: BOOK

>Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:42:40 EDT

>

>

>

>I could attend a book club meeting this weekend, and I might. They are

>discussing the book called CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME ,

>by MArk

>Haddon. Anyway, it is about an autistic boy etc. It looks so interesting.

>The

>books takes a look at how his thinking goes and some of the ways that he

>views things, I am told. This book club is at a private camp ground, resort

>camp

>ground where we have land and a trailer that we own and we can participate

>in

> the weekend programs and they have book clubs, and I saw this title was

>this

> month's book being discussed Sat at 9 AM. If I go to this, and I hope I

>CAN

>read part of the book first, or all of it eventually, I hope to learn a

>lot

>about what others think.

>

>I have heard of this book before, as my son is Aspergers and ADHD and

>sounds

>a bit like this boy in the book in some ways.

>Has anyone else read this book???

> in IL

>

[Guest guest]

I bought the book, it is supposed to be really good, and I am a voracious reader, however, I will say that I couldn't get past the first chapter, the writing was stilted and somewhat awkward. Laha1960@... wrote: I could attend a book club meeting this weekend, and I might. They are discussing the book called CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME , by MArk Haddon. Anyway, it is

about an autistic boy etc. It looks so interesting. The books takes a look at how his thinking goes and some of the ways that he views things, I am told. This book club is at a private camp ground, resort camp ground where we have land and a trailer that we own and we can participate in the weekend programs and they have book clubs, and I saw this title was this month's book being discussed Sat at 9 AM. If I go to this, and I hope I CAN read part of the book first, or all of it eventually, I hope to learn a lot about what others think. I have heard of this book before, as my son is Aspergers and ADHD and sounds a bit like this boy in the book in some ways. Has anyone else read this book??? in IL If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they wentWill There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.Ben A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loveshimself.Josh Billings

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[Guest guest]

I read the book, and so did the asd kids that I teach. It is a very good book, it includes the whole experience that an asd kid might face. sensory issues, socila interaction scares, and how hard life can really be. It is a mystery novel that anyone would enjoy, and it has some definete twists in it. The boy in the book goes between being aspergerish and mid-functioning. It is written as if it happens in England, so some of the words are differnet from a USA perspective. Crystal MNLaha1960@... wrote: I could attend a book club meeting this weekend, and I might. They are discussing the book called CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME , by MArk Haddon. Anyway, it is about an autistic boy etc. It looks so interesting. The books takes a look at how his thinking goes and some of the ways that he views things, I am told. This book club is at a private camp ground, resort camp ground where we have land and a trailer that we own and we can participate in the weekend programs and they have book clubs, and I saw this title was this month's book being discussed Sat at 9 AM. If I go to this, and I hope I CAN read part of the book first, or all of it eventually, I hope to learn a lot about what others think. I have heard of this book before, as my son is Aspergers and ADHD and sounds a bit

like this boy in the book in some ways. Has anyone else read this book??? in IL

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I read this book a couple of years ago.

Loved it - it started to make me understand a bit about .

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I have read this book and it is worth reading. Very interesting and it is from an Autistic boy's view about what goes on, how he sees the world, etc. The author taught Autistic children and I think he has a son that is Autistic as well, but don't hold me to it, because it's been awhile since <<<,,

** Thanks MESHEL for the above. YES, this is what some people were telling me on my other list. I plan to get it today. I hope.

Thanks

in IL

[Guest guest]

I hope someone responds to this as I am also interested.

another F.

>

> There was a book mentioned within the last couple of days about

> stopping OCD. It was an adult book. I looked it up and was going

> to order it later but now cannot find the name of it back. HELP!!!!

> Thanks,

> F

>

[Guest guest]

Was is Brain Lock?

b53cjf <b53cjf@...> wrote: I hope someone responds to this as I

am also interested.

another F.

>

> There was a book mentioned within the last couple of days about

> stopping OCD. It was an adult book. I looked it up and was going

> to order it later but now cannot find the name of it back. HELP!!!!

> Thanks,

> F

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes! That was the one I was thinking of. Thanks!

> >

> > There was a book mentioned within the last couple of days about

> > stopping OCD. It was an adult book. I looked it up and was going

> > to order it later but now cannot find the name of it back. HELP!!!!

> > Thanks,

> > F

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Was it:

Overcoming Obsessive

Thoughts (How to Gain Control of your OCD) by Purdon, Ph.D,

C. Psych and A. , Ph.D, L. Psych.

??

Dina

[Guest guest]

quline12 wrote:

>

>

> Does anyone have a good book on Asperger's they would recomend?

>

" Thinking in Pictures " by Temple Grandin

Annie, who loves ya annie@...

--

" I cannot believe that the inscrutable universe turns on an axis of

suffering; surely the strange beauty of the world must somewhere rest

on pure joy! " -- Louise Bogan

[Guest guest]

Parenting Your Asperger Child: Individualized Solutions for Teaching Your Child Practical Skills: Alan Sohn, Grayson

We love this book, it has been invaluable to us!!!

-----Original Message-----From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of quline12Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:54 AMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Book

Does anyone have a good book on Asperger's they would recomend?

[Guest guest]

I'm trying to remember Tony Attwood's book.On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Annie <annie@...> wrote:

quline12 wrote:

>

>

> Does anyone have a good book on Asperger's they would recomend?

>

[Guest guest]

Look me in the eye.

> >

> >

> > Does anyone have a good book on Asperger's they would recomend?

> >

> " Thinking in Pictures " by Temple Grandin

>

>

>

> Annie, who loves ya annie@...

> --

> " I cannot believe that the inscrutable universe turns on an axis of

> suffering; surely the strange beauty of the world must somewhere rest

> on pure joy! " -- Louise Bogan

>

[Guest guest]

Parent's Guide to Aspergers by Alan Sohn and Grayson

This is great book for parent's and educators!