Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 are you using natural cocoa buter? that could be a prob but I have never had one. I think it may be your presevative. Since my whipped shea/body butter has no water I do not use a preservative, i do add a touch of vit E, and use a 60:40 ratio of butter to oil.. I also add 2 tbs of cornstarch to make it less greasy feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 I Theresa: If you don't mind, I would be be willing to make some, using your recipe, and see if it turns gritty on me. The only ingredient that I don't have is grape seed. Also, are you using FO or EO in your body butter. I have read somewhere, and I am unsure where, that if you heat shea too hot that it will sometimes go gritty. Just a thought. Whipped Body Butter problem Hello everyone, I need help with my whipped body butter, I use shea, coco butter and grape seed, sweet almond oil. I have been making this for about 6 months now and never had any problems. Well the last about 5 batches that I have made has come out so gritty. I don't know if it's the shea butter or the fact that I left it our or that I started putting a preservative in the batch because I'm selling it now or what. Should I have been keeping the Shea in the refrigerator? It's not like it's 100 degrees in my house. I just don't know what is causing it to become gritty in about 2 days after letting it sit out. Is there anyway I can re-melt the other batches and start over again? I have wasted so much on supplies. This has never happen before. I just don't know what to do. Any suggestions would be helpful Theresa __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 aha.. didn't even think about heating... i never heat/melt my shea or cocoa butters for body butter or whipped shea.. I use it only softened... like the consistancy of crisso or something.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Improper heating of shea butter can cause the butter to crystallize as it cools which can cause lip balms, body butters and other formulations to turn gritty upon sitting. In order to avoid this, shea butter must be melted and heated to about 175 degrees and kept at that temperature for at least 20 minutes. This will allow the butter to melt completely so that crystals will not form once cooled. > > Hello everyone, > > I need help with my whipped body butter, I use shea, > coco butter and grape seed, sweet almond oil. > > I have been making this for about 6 months now and > never had any problems. > > Well the last about 5 batches that I have made has > come out so gritty. > > I don't know if it's the shea butter or the fact that > I left it our or that I started putting a preservative > in the batch because I'm selling it now or what. > > Should I have been keeping the Shea in the > refrigerator? It's not like it's 100 degrees in my > house. > > I just don't know what is causing it to become gritty > in about 2 days after letting it sit out. > > Is there anyway I can re-melt the other batches and > start over again? I have wasted so much on supplies. > This has never happen before. I just don't know what > to do. > > > Any suggestions would be helpful > > > > > Theresa > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 In a message dated 1/29/06 4:03:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, obsession86@... writes: > Improper heating of shea butter can cause the butter to crystallize > as it cools which can cause lip balms, body butters and other > formulations to turn gritty upon sitting. In order to avoid this, > shea butter must be melted and heated to about 175 degrees and kept > at that temperature for at least 20 minutes. I thought that when you make whipped shea butter, you didn't melt the shea butter, but used it in it's original form, adding the other oils and eo's. Are you supposed to melt the shea butter before you whip it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Thank you so much! Theresa --- busy_lil_piggys <obsession86@...> wrote: > Improper heating of shea butter can cause the butter > to crystallize > as it cools which can cause lip balms, body butters > and other > formulations to turn gritty upon sitting. In order > to avoid this, > shea butter must be melted and heated to about 175 > degrees and kept > at that temperature for at least 20 minutes. This > will allow the > butter to melt completely so that crystals will not > form once cooled. > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I need help with my whipped body butter, I use > shea, > > coco butter and grape seed, sweet almond oil. > > > > I have been making this for about 6 months now and > > never had any problems. > > > > Well the last about 5 batches that I have made has > > come out so gritty. > > > > I don't know if it's the shea butter or the fact > that > > I left it our or that I started putting a > preservative > > in the batch because I'm selling it now or what. > > > > Should I have been keeping the Shea in the > > refrigerator? It's not like it's 100 degrees in my > > house. > > > > I just don't know what is causing it to become > gritty > > in about 2 days after letting it sit out. > > > > Is there anyway I can re-melt the other batches > and > > start over again? I have wasted so much on > supplies. > > This has never happen before. I just don't know > what > > to do. > > > > > > Any suggestions would be helpful > > > > > > > > > > Theresa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 ....the last about 5 batches that I have made has > come out so gritty. > > Is there anyway I can re-melt the other batches and > start over again? I have wasted so much on supplies. > This has never happen before. I just don't know what > to do. > It is my experience that the shea is what is gritty. You have to whip it as it cools. This keeps it from getting gritty. After the whipping, it won't " turn " gritty anymore. Hope this helps, Amy All-natural, handmade luxury soaps, and the ebook, _Making Soap In Your Own Kitchen_, a beginner's guide to soapmaking. www.soapcrone.com/ebook.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 most people I know, melt and then use the whip, freeze..whip method... or whip over an ice bath or something. I just never bought into that and it seemed they were always talking about things that went wrong... I started out doing them soft...and I have had great success with it that way.. so I don't fix what isn't broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 I thin just like in soaping, there are different ways of doing things, I haven't tried the melting and holding at 175 degrees, but I've had shea both ways, gritty and smooth, makes no diference to me, and it seems to melt as soon as it touches my sking any hoo~ But don't listen to me, I've only made whipped shea once and it's so far so good. I just whipped for about 20minutes. Wonder if that made it kinda warm and whipped out any graininess? Hmmm, but this shea didn't seem to have any graininess in it, I used it straight out of the container on my skin when making soap and I get lye water splashed on my arm or something~ soooooo Sindy -------------- Original message -------------- ..com writes: , > shea butter must be melted and heated to about 175 degrees and kept > at that temperature for at least 20 minutes. Are you supposed to melt the shea butter before you whip it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 I found out that the Shea that I had was tempered meaning there was already a gritty feel to it. I never touched this last order of shea that I bought but when I did put a little on my skin it had that gritty feel to it. Theresa --- too2bizymom@... wrote: > most people I know, melt and then use the whip, > freeze..whip method... or > whip over an ice bath or something. I just never > bought into that and it seemed > they were always talking about things that went > wrong... I started out doing > them soft...and I have had great success with it > that way.. so I don't fix what > isn't broke. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 You can do it either way. it’s preference and doesn’t always get gritty either way. I have made it both ways (at room temp as well as heating) and have had it go gritty and NOT go gritty both ways. Perhaps there is an exact way you can do it exactly that will not make it happen but really it’s not fool proof, IMHO. My favorite way is to heat 'til it’s just melted then stick the one bowl inside a larger one with an ice bath and whip inside that ice bath until it’s done. It’s easier to do at room temp but I get better results with the ice bath after gently melting. I was thinking the other day while making whipped chocolate icing for a cake (it had to be melted with the cream so it was hot and it wasn’t whipping up) that I’d heard cold whipping cream whips up better/easier. I decided that’s why my icing wasn’t getting fluffed up. well, I then thought of my shea and decided that’s why my ice bath whipped shea gets fluffy faster/easier/better. I could be wrong. Just conjecture. KimG _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Denmarbauc@... Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Re: Whipped Body Butter problem I thought that when you make whipped shea butter, you didn't melt the shea butter, but used it in it's original form, adding the other oils and eo's. Are you supposed to melt the shea butter before you whip it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Question: Does it matter what process to use if the shea butter is unrefine or refined? What is people's experience with this? Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 I realized that it was the shea that was already gritty to begin with. Thanks --- Herman & Kaschmitter <kaschmitter_1@...> wrote: > I > Theresa: > > If you don't mind, I would be be willing to make > some, using your recipe, and see if it turns gritty > on me. The only ingredient that I don't have is > grape seed. Also, are you using FO or EO in your > body butter. I have read somewhere, and I am unsure > where, that if you heat shea too hot that it will > sometimes go gritty. Just a thought. > > > Whipped Body Butter > problem > > > Hello everyone, > > I need help with my whipped body butter, I use > shea, > coco butter and grape seed, sweet almond oil. > > I have been making this for about 6 months now and > never had any problems. > > Well the last about 5 batches that I have made has > come out so gritty. > > I don't know if it's the shea butter or the fact > that > I left it our or that I started putting a > preservative > in the batch because I'm selling it now or what. > > Should I have been keeping the Shea in the > refrigerator? It's not like it's 100 degrees in my > house. > > I just don't know what is causing it to become > gritty > in about 2 days after letting it sit out. > > Is there anyway I can re-melt the other batches > and > start over again? I have wasted so much on > supplies. > This has never happen before. I just don't know > what > to do. > > > Any suggestions would be helpful > > > > > Theresa > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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