RE: CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

[Guest guest]

Well Said !

CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

Hi folks

Can I just interject one thing before this discussion progresses.

I've been on this site since it started (a few) years ago and with hand on

heart I think at least each year we have degenerated a similar topic into a,

" them and us " , " military v civvy " , " we're better than you " , nasty and

totally useless message after message, time wasting and non-professional

diatribe amongst ourselves.

Please ohh yes please don't do it again !!!!

S.

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[Guest guest]

,

A very fair point. I am glad that this list does

attract a more professional individual than some

and so far the thread has been kept that way.

I had a difficult time recently trying to explain

to a rather senior member of the medical

profession that remote and offshore medicine was a

totally different specialty to PHC. Sadly many

folks stop at the word offshore and think piper

alpha or similiar.

Out of interest, can anyone give me an estimate,

from the time spent doing medical work (including

occupational health, hygiene and safety) over what

specialties their time is split. This will help me

win a minor row that is brewing. Please email to

me offlist if you prefer.

Cheers,

Ross

>

>

>

> Hi folks

>

> Can I just interject one thing before

> this discussion progresses.

>

> I've been on this site since it started

> (a few) years ago and with hand on

> heart I think at least each year we

> have degenerated a similar topic into a,

> " them and us " , " military v civvy " ,

> " we're better than you " , nasty and

> totally useless message after message,

> time wasting and non-professional

> diatribe amongst ourselves.

>

> Please ohh yes please don't do it again !!!!

>

> S.

[Guest guest]

Morning Guys,

Most of the time spent on Clyde is in Traffic, keeping the flying programme

up to date, plus budgets, coshh assessments and so on.

We also stand in as Radio op when required, trained as HLO, basically we are

a facilities manager, responsable for catering.

On average per week we may be employed 20% of the time performing Medical

duties, this includes patient visits, stock ordering etc.

There was a time when the plan was to have us as Medic/Safety but sold from

BP to Talisman and all that fell through, although holding NEBOSHH and many

other safety orientated qualifications.

There has been some discussion as to what would constitute an approved

secondary role, to me the above would be ideal.

My b/b had to deal with a collapse, this left traffic office empty and a

flight landing, no one to take over that duty, so the maps system and muster

lists had to wait, this caused concern to management, they are now deciding

who to train as a replacement in times of medical emergency.

Regards

,

CLYMED@...

Regards

W

Clyde, Medic

CLYMED@...

RE: CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

,

A very fair point. I am glad that this list does

attract a more professional individual than some

and so far the thread has been kept that way.

I had a difficult time recently trying to explain

to a rather senior member of the medical

profession that remote and offshore medicine was a

totally different specialty to PHC. Sadly many

folks stop at the word offshore and think piper

alpha or similiar.

Out of interest, can anyone give me an estimate,

from the time spent doing medical work (including

occupational health, hygiene and safety) over what

specialties their time is split. This will help me

win a minor row that is brewing. Please email to

me offlist if you prefer.

Cheers,

Ross

>

>

>

> Hi folks

>

> Can I just interject one thing before

> this discussion progresses.

>

> I've been on this site since it started

> (a few) years ago and with hand on

> heart I think at least each year we

> have degenerated a similar topic into a,

> " them and us " , " military v civvy " ,

> " we're better than you " , nasty and

> totally useless message after message,

> time wasting and non-professional

> diatribe amongst ourselves.

>

> Please ohh yes please don't do it again !!!!

>

> S.

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

we are about the same split here on the

Elgin/lin. We have no COSHH/ Radio Op Stand In duties put have all

PlatformSafety Induction and Safety Eqpt checks to carry out. Fortunately

for the Medics onboard, we have the Lead Stewards trained to take over

Heli Admin if required.

We see an average 3-5 patients a day, mainly cougns/colds/headaches and

dental prblems. No serious trauma and only one medical case of note a

ruptured achilles tendon.

regards

Neil Poole

" Clyde, Medic " <CLYMED@...>

11/07/2003 11:08

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Subject: RE: CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

Morning Guys,

Most of the time spent on Clyde is in Traffic, keeping the flying

programme

up to date, plus budgets, coshh assessments and so on.

We also stand in as Radio op when required, trained as HLO, basically we

are

a facilities manager, responsable for catering.

On average per week we may be employed 20% of the time performing Medical

duties, this includes patient visits, stock ordering etc.

There was a time when the plan was to have us as Medic/Safety but sold

from

BP to Talisman and all that fell through, although holding NEBOSHH and

many

other safety orientated qualifications.

There has been some discussion as to what would constitute an approved

secondary role, to me the above would be ideal.

My b/b had to deal with a collapse, this left traffic office empty and a

flight landing, no one to take over that duty, so the maps system and

muster

lists had to wait, this caused concern to management, they are now

deciding

who to train as a replacement in times of medical emergency.

Regards

,

CLYMED@...

Regards

W

Clyde, Medic

CLYMED@...

RE: CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

,

A very fair point. I am glad that this list does

attract a more professional individual than some

and so far the thread has been kept that way.

I had a difficult time recently trying to explain

to a rather senior member of the medical

profession that remote and offshore medicine was a

totally different specialty to PHC. Sadly many

folks stop at the word offshore and think piper

alpha or similiar.

Out of interest, can anyone give me an estimate,

from the time spent doing medical work (including

occupational health, hygiene and safety) over what

specialties their time is split. This will help me

win a minor row that is brewing. Please email to

me offlist if you prefer.

Cheers,

Ross

>

>

>

> Hi folks

>

> Can I just interject one thing before

> this discussion progresses.

>

> I've been on this site since it started

> (a few) years ago and with hand on

> heart I think at least each year we

> have degenerated a similar topic into a,

> " them and us " , " military v civvy " ,

> " we're better than you " , nasty and

> totally useless message after message,

> time wasting and non-professional

> diatribe amongst ourselves.

>

> Please ohh yes please don't do it again !!!!

>

> S.

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[Guest guest]

I have been onboard since Tuesday 08 July

Breakdown for input into EML 16 collect personal medication, 1 URTI, so

again about 3-5 per day average.

Now going to forecast my 6 budgets for end July, and also start planning

next years budgets, or bean counter fight

Regards

W

Clyde, Medic

CLYMED@...

RE: CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

,

A very fair point. I am glad that this list does

attract a more professional individual than some

and so far the thread has been kept that way.

I had a difficult time recently trying to explain

to a rather senior member of the medical

profession that remote and offshore medicine was a

totally different specialty to PHC. Sadly many

folks stop at the word offshore and think piper

alpha or similiar.

Out of interest, can anyone give me an estimate,

from the time spent doing medical work (including

occupational health, hygiene and safety) over what

specialties their time is split. This will help me

win a minor row that is brewing. Please email to

me offlist if you prefer.

Cheers,

Ross

>

>

>

> Hi folks

>

> Can I just interject one thing before

> this discussion progresses.

>

> I've been on this site since it started

> (a few) years ago and with hand on

> heart I think at least each year we

> have degenerated a similar topic into a,

> " them and us " , " military v civvy " ,

> " we're better than you " , nasty and

> totally useless message after message,

> time wasting and non-professional

> diatribe amongst ourselves.

>

> Please ohh yes please don't do it again !!!!

>

> S.

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Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@...

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The Remote Medics Team

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

see nothing has changed, just put on extra flight for

tomorrow, looking at requirements for Christmas/New Years flights, took

deliver of the Stationary Demand. one patient so far with small lacertaion

to forehead.

You still living in Colchester

regards

Neil

" Clyde, Medic " <CLYMED@...>

11/07/2003 14:30

Please respond to

" ' ' "

< >

cc:

Subject: RE: CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

I have been onboard since Tuesday 08 July

Breakdown for input into EML 16 collect personal medication, 1 URTI, so

again about 3-5 per day average.

Now going to forecast my 6 budgets for end July, and also start planning

next years budgets, or bean counter fight

Regards

W

Clyde, Medic

CLYMED@...

RE: CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

,

A very fair point. I am glad that this list does

attract a more professional individual than some

and so far the thread has been kept that way.

I had a difficult time recently trying to explain

to a rather senior member of the medical

profession that remote and offshore medicine was a

totally different specialty to PHC. Sadly many

folks stop at the word offshore and think piper

alpha or similiar.

Out of interest, can anyone give me an estimate,

from the time spent doing medical work (including

occupational health, hygiene and safety) over what

specialties their time is split. This will help me

win a minor row that is brewing. Please email to

me offlist if you prefer.

Cheers,

Ross

>

>

>

> Hi folks

>

> Can I just interject one thing before

> this discussion progresses.

>

> I've been on this site since it started

> (a few) years ago and with hand on

> heart I think at least each year we

> have degenerated a similar topic into a,

> " them and us " , " military v civvy " ,

> " we're better than you " , nasty and

> totally useless message after message,

> time wasting and non-professional

> diatribe amongst ourselves.

>

> Please ohh yes please don't do it again !!!!

>

> S.

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List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@...

Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@...

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to

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Regards

The Remote Medics Team

[Guest guest]

I have also just booked an extra flight for drilling for to-morrow, S.O.S.

again

Been living in Paphos for over 2 years, trying to meet up with Ian Sharp for

a beer as he is in Tala, about 3 miles up the road, maybe this time home.

OIM now wants to discuss budgets at 1600, great fun.

Regards

W

Clyde, Medic

CLYMED@...

RE: CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

,

A very fair point. I am glad that this list does

attract a more professional individual than some

and so far the thread has been kept that way.

I had a difficult time recently trying to explain

to a rather senior member of the medical

profession that remote and offshore medicine was a

totally different specialty to PHC. Sadly many

folks stop at the word offshore and think piper

alpha or similiar.

Out of interest, can anyone give me an estimate,

from the time spent doing medical work (including

occupational health, hygiene and safety) over what

specialties their time is split. This will help me

win a minor row that is brewing. Please email to

me offlist if you prefer.

Cheers,

Ross

>

>

>

> Hi folks

>

> Can I just interject one thing before

> this discussion progresses.

>

> I've been on this site since it started

> (a few) years ago and with hand on

> heart I think at least each year we

> have degenerated a similar topic into a,

> " them and us " , " military v civvy " ,

> " we're better than you " , nasty and

> totally useless message after message,

> time wasting and non-professional

> diatribe amongst ourselves.

>

> Please ohh yes please don't do it again !!!!

>

> S.

Member Information:

List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@...

Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@...

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to

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The Remote Medics Team

[Guest guest]

, all

My email was simply a reply to ’s, trying to “explaining the

difference between the 2 roles”

I don’t think anything was said in a degrading manner towards Paramedics

at all.

I followed all the CMT/RGN….. emails that were flying around on ECO a

few years ago, and am well aware of the consequences when one starts to

have a stab at the other side,

Regards,

Waqar.

CMT's/HCA's/Civvy Paramedics

Hi folks

Can I just interject one thing before this discussion progresses.

I've been on this site since it started (a few) years ago and with hand

on

heart I think at least each year we have degenerated a similar topic

into a,

" them and us " , " military v civvy " , " we're better than you " , nasty and

totally useless message after message, time wasting and non-professional

diatribe amongst ourselves.

Please ohh yes please don't do it again !!!!

S.

[Guest guest]

Guys,

I think that one of the plus points of this list is the wide range of

backgrounds and experiences that are on the list. Weather your back ground

is in nursing, forces medic or civy paramedic or SAR specialist we are all

human and we all have different strengths and weaknesses.

Over the years I have worked with many people from different back grounds

(e.g. Nurses, Doctors, Forces Medics, Civy paramedics etc. to name just a

few) You normally find that in each group there are a few who are

exceptional, the majority are acceptable and there are a few who I would

not let near me for all the tea in china. It is very easy to pick out horror

stories about a particular group and forget the majority of that group who

are performing well.

Lets learn from each other. If anyone has expert knowledge in a certain area

lets tap into that knowledge and improve our own. We may well find that a

particular group is ahead of the game in one area but needs help in another.

No one has a monopoly on knowledge and no one is an expert on everything.

Lets put our heads together and develop a better standard of care for our

patients. This is a far more productive use of the list than medic / nurse /

paramedic bashing.

Gareth

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