Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 The CME will always pose us a problem in the military now that there are no hospitals (military) for us to practice at the appropriate level required. I have recently registered as a paramedic through grandfathering from my training in the RN, it should get easier for those who follow as the HPC begin to understand how our systems work. CME has been instigated in the RN and will run a course of three years. There has also been some suggestion of a dedicated CME team who will roam the country delivering the required training to the various bases PRN. Once registered one has to remain current, this is actually easier to do as the NHS knows what a paramedic is and can do....ambulance bank work is also available with the various ambulance NHSTs. I would strongly suggest that you service guys wait a little while as the HPC are at DMSTC Keogh in the near future to validate or otherwise the military training. regards to all Ian H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Which is why a lot of my medical training for CEU's is done through the US forces medical orgs, and why a lot of the guys I know who are medics are undertaking medical courses they pay for themselves in preperation for discharge or hoping for improvements in the med training. It is sad to think that willing people are so disappointed by the system and so much talent is wasted which leads to them not re-enlisting. MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE >Hi Dave > >Thanks for you excellent article. I am glad to see that there is progression in the recognition of military medics by the civilian world. > >However, there is a big problem. We both know that Combat Medical Technician actually means " Canvas Moving Technician " . If it is going to work, there must be a system of CME for military medics so that Commanding Officers have to do something about proper medical training, including attachments to ambulance services and hospitals, instead of medics spending their time painting boxes and vehicles etc. As you know, I get the chance to speak to military medics from all three services and one of the biggest grumbles is that medical training is a dirty word! > >Good luck at the NHS working group in April. Hopefully see you in Gosport in the near future. > >Best regards > >Mark > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Please to meet all on the newsgroup I'm Neil Brown and is currently employed in the South African Military Health Service. I'm a qualified Operational Emergency Care Practitioner with the Health Professions Council of South Africa and is currently working in one of our Military Hospitals. I've got experience in a number of fields of operations form border patrols to ships, luckily in the SAMHS you can be assigned to any Arm of Service to render medical care and that result in a wide field of expertise. I'm however new to certain abreviations and terminology used in the international arena of medical care and thus my question; Can somebody please shed some more light on CME? i'm looking forward to further correspondence regarding any other topic. Neil Brown +(27)72 490 2617 Re: MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE > The CME will always pose us a problem in the military now that there are no > hospitals (military) for us to practice at the appropriate level required. I > have recently registered as a paramedic through grandfathering from my > training in the RN, it should get easier for those who follow as the HPC > begin to understand how our systems work. CME has been instigated in the RN > and will run a course of three years. There has also been some suggestion of > a dedicated CME team who will roam the country delivering the required > training to the various bases PRN. Once registered one has to remain > current, this is actually easier to do as the NHS knows what a paramedic is > and can do....ambulance bank work is also available with the various > ambulance NHSTs. I would strongly suggest that you service guys wait a > little while as the HPC are at DMSTC Keogh in the near future to validate or > otherwise the military training. > > regards to all > > Ian H > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 On the topic of Military Medics obtaining experience to prepare them for combat during peace time here in the RSA we've established an agreement with the local medical services that Ops Medics (South African combat medics) can work in conjunction with thier emergency services to acquire and maintain the necessary skills. The medical training is also regulate and controlled by civilian authorities, but executed by military training institutions and all successfull learners are registered to the Health Professions Council of South Africa. Furthermore the SAMHS is also a co presenter of the UK's BATLS/BARTS program for military health care personnel and Ops Medics actively attend these courses as well. Be free to contact me for further info regarding matter. neilbrown@... Neil Brown +(27)72 490 2617 MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE > Hi Dave > > Thanks for you excellent article. I am glad to see that there is progression in the recognition of military medics by the civilian world. > > However, there is a big problem. We both know that Combat Medical Technician actually means " Canvas Moving Technician " . If it is going to work, there must be a system of CME for military medics so that Commanding Officers have to do something about proper medical training, including attachments to ambulance services and hospitals, instead of medics spending their time painting boxes and vehicles etc. As you know, I get the chance to speak to military medics from all three services and one of the biggest grumbles is that medical training is a dirty word! > > Good luck at the NHS working group in April. Hopefully see you in Gosport in the near future. > > Best regards > > Mark > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Welcome Neil I am on another list from SA which has a number of Ops medics on it Armytalk do you know it? Re: MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE >On the topic of Military Medics obtaining experience to prepare them for >combat during peace time here in the RSA we've established an agreement with >the local medical services that Ops Medics (South African combat medics) can >work in conjunction with thier emergency services to acquire and maintain >the necessary skills. The medical training is also regulate and controlled >by civilian authorities, but executed by military training institutions and >all successfull learners are registered to the Health Professions Council of >South Africa. Furthermore the SAMHS is also a co presenter of the UK's >BATLS/BARTS program for military health care personnel and Ops Medics >actively attend these courses as well. Be free to contact me for further >info regarding matter. neilbrown@... >Neil Brown >+(27)72 490 2617 > MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE > > >> Hi Dave >> >> Thanks for you excellent article. I am glad to see that there is >progression in the recognition of military medics by the civilian world. >> >> However, there is a big problem. We both know that Combat Medical >Technician actually means " Canvas Moving Technician " . If it is going to >work, there must be a system of CME for military medics so that Commanding >Officers have to do something about proper medical training, including >attachments to ambulance services and hospitals, instead of medics spending >their time painting boxes and vehicles etc. As you know, I get the chance >to speak to military medics from all three services and one of the biggest >grumbles is that medical training is a dirty word! >> >> Good luck at the NHS working group in April. Hopefully see you in Gosport >in the near future. >> >> Best regards >> >> Mark >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Welcome to a fellow South African!! Which hospital you working in at moment?? Hope you enjoy the forum. Struan NDip AEC Re: MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE > > > > The CME will always pose us a problem in the military now that there are > no > > hospitals (military) for us to practice at the appropriate level required. > I > > have recently registered as a paramedic through grandfathering from my > > training in the RN, it should get easier for those who follow as the HPC > > begin to understand how our systems work. CME has been instigated in the > RN > > and will run a course of three years. There has also been some suggestion > of > > a dedicated CME team who will roam the country delivering the required > > training to the various bases PRN. Once registered one has to remain > > current, this is actually easier to do as the NHS knows what a paramedic > is > > and can do....ambulance bank work is also available with the various > > ambulance NHSTs. I would strongly suggest that you service guys wait a > > little while as the HPC are at DMSTC Keogh in the near future to validate > or > > otherwise the military training. > > > > regards to all > > > > Ian H > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Hi No I don't know of such a list, can you provide the url? Neil Brown +(27)72 490 2617 MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE > > > > > >> Hi Dave > >> > >> Thanks for you excellent article. I am glad to see that there is > >progression in the recognition of military medics by the civilian world. > >> > >> However, there is a big problem. We both know that Combat Medical > >Technician actually means " Canvas Moving Technician " . If it is going to > >work, there must be a system of CME for military medics so that Commanding > >Officers have to do something about proper medical training, including > >attachments to ambulance services and hospitals, instead of medics spending > >their time painting boxes and vehicles etc. As you know, I get the chance > >to speak to military medics from all three services and one of the biggest > >grumbles is that medical training is a dirty word! > >> > >> Good luck at the NHS working group in April. Hopefully see you in > Gosport > >in the near future. > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Hi Struan 2 Military Hospital U? Do you know of any wilderness medical training provided in the SA except the Defence Force? Neil Brown +(27)72 490 2617 Re: MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE > > > > > > > The CME will always pose us a problem in the military now that there are > > no > > > hospitals (military) for us to practice at the appropriate level > required. > > I > > > have recently registered as a paramedic through grandfathering from my > > > training in the RN, it should get easier for those who follow as the HPC > > > begin to understand how our systems work. CME has been instigated in > the > > RN > > > and will run a course of three years. There has also been some > suggestion > > of > > > a dedicated CME team who will roam the country delivering the required > > > training to the various bases PRN. Once registered one has to remain > > > current, this is actually easier to do as the NHS knows what a paramedic > > is > > > and can do....ambulance bank work is also available with the various > > > ambulance NHSTs. I would strongly suggest that you service guys wait a > > > little while as the HPC are at DMSTC Keogh in the near future to > validate > > or > > > otherwise the military training. > > > > > > regards to all > > > > > > Ian H > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 Contact the listowner at armytalk@... Re: MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE > Hi No I don't know of such a list, can you provide the url? >Neil Brown >+(27)72 490 2617 > MILITARY MEDICS - THE FUTURE >> > >> > >> >> Hi Dave >> >> >> >> Thanks for you excellent article. I am glad to see that there is >> >progression in the recognition of military medics by the civilian world. >> >> >> >> However, there is a big problem. We both know that Combat Medical >> >Technician actually means " Canvas Moving Technician " . If it is going to >> >work, there must be a system of CME for military medics so that >Commanding >> >Officers have to do something about proper medical training, including >> >attachments to ambulance services and hospitals, instead of medics >spending >> >their time painting boxes and vehicles etc. As you know, I get the >chance >> >to speak to military medics from all three services and one of the >biggest >> >grumbles is that medical training is a dirty word! >> >> >> >> Good luck at the NHS working group in April. Hopefully see you in >> Gosport >> >in the near future. >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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