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hello Ebtessam, here is a link which explains everything really well.. have a look.http://www.neuroanatomy.wisc.edu/virtualbrain/BrainStem/07CNXII.html From: ebtessam <ebtessamhamalawy@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Anatomy

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Thanks for your support

I have a questions:

Its mentioned in scully that when a pt suffers LMN lesion on diagnosis: the tongue deviates to the unaffected side, while in the hypoglossal lesion it deviated towards affected side.

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ebtisam

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i cant stdy that...please crux kya hai?do tell me if u have time.... From: Divi Divi <divi_ore@...> " " < > Cc: Kanika Kohli <kanika_sahil@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Anatomy

hello Ebtessam, here is a link which explains everything really well.. have a look.http://www.neuroanatomy.wisc.edu/virtualbrain/BrainStem/07CNXII.html From: ebtessam <ebtessamhamalawy@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Anatomy

DEAR ALL

Thanks for your support

I have a questions:

Its mentioned in scully that when a pt suffers LMN lesion on diagnosis: the tongue deviates to the unaffected side, while in the hypoglossal lesion it deviated towards affected side.

thanks

ebtisam

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HI DIVI Have been though the link you recommended its really good thanksI got it know, but I still don`t understand why in scully when they wanted to differentiate between the UMN LESION AND LMN AFFECTING THE FACIAL NERVE they said that in ( UMNL of facial nerve tongue protrusion is normal while in LMNS tongue protrude to the unaffected side)what does the facial nerve got to do with tongue protrusion???????????Best regardsEbtisam From: Kanika Kohli <kanika_sahil@...> " " < > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 14:42 Subject: Re: Anatomy

i cant stdy that...please crux kya hai?do tell me if u have time.... From: Divi Divi <divi_ore@...> " " < > Cc: Kanika Kohli <kanika_sahil@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Anatomy

hello Ebtessam, here is a link which explains everything really well.. have a look.http://www.neuroanatomy.wisc.edu/virtualbrain/BrainStem/07CNXII.html From: ebtessam <ebtessamhamalawy@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 1:38

PM Subject: Anatomy

DEAR ALL

Thanks for your support

I have a questions:

Its mentioned in scully that when a pt suffers LMN lesion on diagnosis: the tongue deviates to the unaffected side, while in the hypoglossal lesion it deviated towards affected side.

thanks

ebtisam

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Hello Ebtessam, its just a comparision. they are talking about lower phase as a whole so they are conidering the effect of LML and UML on the nerves which supplies face .. i.e mucles of facial expression and muscles of tounge. they have clearly mentioned that in UMN of facial N tounge protrusion is not affected. but yeah i can see that table 25.19 which says in LMNL of facial nerve tounge deviates to unafected side.. i dont know y they saying this.. !!any one has any idea ?? kindly explain...

From: ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...> " " < > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Anatomy

HI DIVI Have been though the link you recommended its really good thanksI got it know, but I still don`t understand why in scully when they wanted to differentiate between the UMN LESION AND LMN AFFECTING THE FACIAL NERVE they said that in ( UMNL of facial nerve tongue protrusion is normal while in LMNS tongue protrude to the unaffected side)what does the facial nerve got to do with tongue protrusion???????????Best regardsEbtisam From: Kanika Kohli <kanika_sahil@...> " " < > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 14:42 Subject: Re: Anatomy

i cant stdy that...please crux kya hai?do tell me if u have time.... From: Divi Divi <divi_ore@...> " " < > Cc: Kanika Kohli <kanika_sahil@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Anatomy

hello Ebtessam, here is a link which explains everything really well.. have a look.http://www.neuroanatomy.wisc.edu/virtualbrain/BrainStem/07CNXII.html From: ebtessam <ebtessamhamalawy@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012

1:38

PM Subject: Anatomy

DEAR ALL

Thanks for your support

I have a questions:

Its mentioned in scully that when a pt suffers LMN lesion on diagnosis: the tongue deviates to the unaffected side, while in the hypoglossal lesion it deviated towards affected side.

thanks

ebtisam

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see I have found this...a new study , regarding bell's palsy and tounge deviation. i,e betwn facial nerve and toung protrusion/deviationas such we know facial nerve supplies muscles of facial expression and hypoglossal supplies intrin and extrensic muscles of tounge now.. in a study they have found out thisThere has been much discussion about the sensory pathways ofproprioceptive impulses from the tongue. The chorda tympani,3lingual, glossopharyngeal, and hypoglossal nerves have all beensuggested as carrying these. Nevertheless, ataxia of the tongue aftertrigeminal section will recover,4 and patients with bilateral linguallocal anaesthetic blocks have shown no proprioceptive deficit.5Both patients appeared to have lesions of the chorda tympani, assuggested by their disturbance in taste. Furthermore, the transientspontaneous contralateral deviation of the tongue indicated a mildataxia, although on detailed examination all movements were controlled. Thus we might conclude that the chorda tympani makes somecontribution to the position sense of the tongue. An alternativeexplanation is that this deviation

is due to the tongue's being protruded "centrally" within a displaced oral aperture. Against the latterproposition is that lingual deviation soon disappeared, although thefacial asymmetry persisted.Deviation of the tongue therefore may be a clinical feature of Bell'spalsy which is evident for only a short time after its onset, and toelicit this sign the patient must be requested to gently protrude thetongue. Other proprioceptive pathways appear to compensate rapidlyfor this deficit, which explains why the lingual anomaly is not a wellrecognised feature of the syndrome.which means chorda tympani which is a branch of facial nerve cn have contribution in deviation of tounge !! or

mebbe coz of weakness or paralysis in cheeck/bucccal tissue there is space n tounge is deviates coz of that.. but these afre studies,, and can happen in few rare cases, there fore mentioned in taht table.I would advice you not to spoil time after these thngs coz there is soo much normal stuff for us to study and go through.. its a waste of time and energy to stay stuck for things like this .. see I stayed stuck and wasted approx 45-60 mins on this.. but yeah its not a waste of time exactly but we should know what to leave and what to pick !! hope this helps.. Correct me if I am wrong at any point.. Divi From: Divi Divi <divi_ore@...> " " < > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Anatomy

Hello Ebtessam, its just a comparision. they are talking about lower phase as a whole so they are conidering the effect of LML and UML on the nerves which supplies face .. i.e mucles of facial expression and muscles of tounge. they have clearly mentioned that in UMN of facial N tounge protrusion is not affected. but yeah i can see that table 25.19 which says in LMNL of facial nerve tounge deviates to unafected side.. i dont know y they saying this.. !!any one has any idea ?? kindly explain...

From: ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...> " " < > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Anatomy

HI DIVI Have been though the link you recommended its really good thanksI got it know, but I still don`t understand why in scully when they wanted to differentiate between the UMN LESION AND LMN AFFECTING THE FACIAL NERVE they said that in ( UMNL of facial nerve tongue protrusion is normal while in LMNS tongue protrude to the unaffected side)what does the facial nerve got to do with tongue protrusion???????????Best regardsEbtisam From: Kanika Kohli <kanika_sahil@...> " " < > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 14:42 Subject: Re: Anatomy

i cant stdy that...please crux kya hai?do tell me if u have time.... From: Divi Divi <divi_ore@...> " " < > Cc: Kanika Kohli <kanika_sahil@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Anatomy

hello Ebtessam, here is a link which explains everything really well.. have a look.http://www.neuroanatomy.wisc.edu/virtualbrain/BrainStem/07CNXII.html From: ebtessam <ebtessamhamalawy@...> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012

1:38

PM Subject: Anatomy

DEAR ALL

Thanks for your support

I have a questions:

Its mentioned in scully that when a pt suffers LMN lesion on diagnosis: the tongue deviates to the unaffected side, while in the hypoglossal lesion it deviated towards affected side.

thanks

ebtisam

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Hello,

In LMN, the tongue deviates to unaffected side on protrusion because of the

action of normal muscles, which pull it to the unaffected side.

In hypoglossal nerve lesion, the affected side of tongue undergoes atrophy and

thus kinda " shrinks " thus the tongue appears to deviate to affected side.

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Musaab

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> Thanks for your support

> I have a questions:

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> Its mentioned in scully that when a pt suffers LMN lesion on diagnosis: the

tongue deviates to the unaffected side, while in the hypoglossal lesion it

deviated towards affected side.

>

> thanks

>

> ebtisam

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21. In which year is GDC going to conduct revalidation?a. 2010b. 2011c. 2012d. 2013e. 2014

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JAKSent from my iPadOn 7 Mar 2012, at 17:16, ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...> wrote:

HI MIRALFOR SCULLY SINCE U HAVE TIME : DO 1. CNS ( LESIONS AFFECTING DIFFERENT NERVES), ( CRANIAL NERVES) 2. HEMATOLOGY ALL V IMP 3. AUTOIMMUNE AND ALLERGY 4. INFECTIVE ENDOCARDITIS 5. ALCOHOL, OCCUPATIONAL HAZARDS 6.

Headaches 7. anesthesia ( local, sedation and general) scully is really good in this part.Its easier to go through the oral medicine questions it will give u an idea of what to cover plus use scully to answer feedbacks that`s the most effective way.BEST OF LUCKEBTISAM From: Miral <miral_hasan@...> " " < > Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 17:05 Subject: Re: Anatomy

Al salamu alykoum Ahmed n Ebtissam,What about Scully? It is huge.Also should we do all Tencate?Pharmacology n Bacteriology?Thanks Sent from my iPadOn 7 Mar 2012, at 11:07, ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...> wrote:

HI AHMEDUSE THE BLUE BOOK FOR ANATOMY ITS MORE TAN ENOUGH TO ANSWER THE PREVIOUS ORE FEEDACKS.but for embryology part use tencate or any other book.GOOD LUCK.ebtisam From: Ahmed Awsi <ahmed.awsi@...> Sent: Wednesday,

7 March 2012, 9:47 Subject: Anatomy

Hi ,Can some one plz tel me , do we have to study the whole anatomy ? Can some one help me plzz and tells me what's the most important things need to study.Thanks in advance.Ahmed.

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Many thanks Ebtessam.

Ahmed.

From: ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...>" " < > Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 17:16Subject: Re: Anatomy

HI MIRAL

FOR SCULLY SINCE U HAVE TIME :

DO 1. CNS ( LESIONS AFFECTING DIFFERENT NERVES), ( CRANIAL NERVES)

2. HEMATOLOGY ALL V IMP

3. AUTOIMMUNE AND ALLERGY

4. INFECTIVE ENDOCARDITIS

5. ALCOHOL, OCCUPATIONAL HAZARDS

6. Headaches

7. anesthesia ( local, sedation and general) scully is really good in this part.

Its easier to go through the oral medicine questions it will give u an idea of what to cover plus use scully to answer feedbacks that`s the most effective way.

BEST OF LUCK

EBTISAM

From: Miral <miral_hasan@...>" " < > Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 17:05Subject: Re: Anatomy

Al salamu alykoum Ahmed n Ebtissam,

What about Scully? It is huge.Also should we do all Tencate?Pharmacology n Bacteriology?

Thanks

Sent from my iPad

On 7 Mar 2012, at 11:07, ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...> wrote:

HI AHMED

USE THE BLUE BOOK FOR ANATOMY ITS MORE TAN ENOUGH TO ANSWER THE PREVIOUS ORE FEEDACKS.

but for embryology part use tencate or any other book.

GOOD LUCK.

ebtisam

From: Ahmed Awsi <ahmed.awsi@...> Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 9:47Subject: Anatomy

Hi ,Can some one plz tel me , do we have to study the whole anatomy ? Can some one help me plzz and tells me what's the most important things need to study.Thanks in advance.Ahmed.

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JAK Ebtessam:)Sent from my iPadOn 7 Mar 2012, at 20:21, Ahmed Awsi <ahmed.awsi@...> wrote:

Many thanks Ebtessam.

Ahmed.

From: ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...>" " < > Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 17:16Subject: Re: Anatomy

HI MIRAL

FOR SCULLY SINCE U HAVE TIME :

DO 1. CNS ( LESIONS AFFECTING DIFFERENT NERVES), ( CRANIAL NERVES)

2. HEMATOLOGY ALL V IMP

3. AUTOIMMUNE AND ALLERGY

4. INFECTIVE ENDOCARDITIS

5. ALCOHOL, OCCUPATIONAL HAZARDS

6. Headaches

7. anesthesia ( local, sedation and general) scully is really good in this part.

Its easier to go through the oral medicine questions it will give u an idea of what to cover plus use scully to answer feedbacks that`s the most effective way.

BEST OF LUCK

EBTISAM

From: Miral <miral_hasan@...>" " < > Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 17:05Subject: Re: Anatomy

Al salamu alykoum Ahmed n Ebtissam,

What about Scully? It is huge.Also should we do all Tencate?Pharmacology n Bacteriology?

Thanks

Sent from my iPad

On 7 Mar 2012, at 11:07, ebtessam elhamalawy <ebtessamhamalawy@...> wrote:

HI AHMED

USE THE BLUE BOOK FOR ANATOMY ITS MORE TAN ENOUGH TO ANSWER THE PREVIOUS ORE FEEDACKS.

but for embryology part use tencate or any other book.

GOOD LUCK.

ebtisam

From: Ahmed Awsi <ahmed.awsi@...> Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 9:47Subject: Anatomy

Hi ,Can some one plz tel me , do we have to study the whole anatomy ? Can some one help me plzz and tells me what's the most important things need to study.Thanks in advance.Ahmed.

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