GSE or other preservative???

[Guest guest]

I'm really confused about preservatives :-(

Can anyone tell me if GSE is ok to use as a presv. to prevent cooties

growing in my stuff or keeping things from going rancid. Or do I

need something stronger. What are the pros and cons of using GSE vs.

somthing else?

Currently, I only make things for the use of me and my kids and a few

friends. I " try " to do lotions, butters, scrubs, MP soap, bath

salts, fizzies, etc.

Thanks for the help guys.

Tracey in So. Cal

[Guest guest]

Hello all, I couldn't stay away from this one. This subject drives

me crazy.

GSE is an oil not a preservative. It is a good oil to add to

scrubs. If you search and search on the internet for proof that GSE

has been proven to be effective for use as a preservative you will

find nothing, noto! The only thing you will find are test showing

that it works with a synthetic preservative added to it. The

testing that has been done on GSE has had additional preservatives

added so the testing is really worthless. As of now, there is

nothing, absolutely nothing that is natural that will work for

preservation, regardless what you hear. Don't take my word or

anyone elses word. Research this and you will find the truth. If

your selling to the public you really need to know the truth because

it can be costly if someone buys your product and they get some type

of bacteria infection from it. Otherwise you need to inform your

customers and have it labeled that you don't preserve your products.

If you fall for the hype that GSE is a preservative then send a

sample to a lab and have it tested. Chances are it will come back

as not acceptable.

As far as using preservatives and wanting to use natural... Look at

all the food products your eating. They have preservatives in them

and your eating them so why worry about a lotion with preservative

in it that is only being applied to the skin (which doesn't actually

go through all the layers anyway).

Just my 2 cents worth. I just hate when people are told that it is

a good preservative when it is not. I fell for this when I first

starting soaping and I was glad that I did the actual research and

found the truth.

http://www.shoppingaogifts.com

> I'm really confused about preservatives :-(

>

> Can anyone tell me if GSE is ok to use as a presv. to prevent

cooties

> growing in my stuff or keeping things from going rancid. Or do I

> need something stronger. What are the pros and cons of using GSE

vs.

> somthing else?

>

> Currently, I only make things for the use of me and my kids and a

few

> friends. I " try " to do lotions, butters, scrubs, MP soap, bath

> salts, fizzies, etc.

>

> Thanks for the help guys.

>

> Tracey in So. Cal

[Guest guest]

Had to repost:) sorry if this got sent twice

GSE is not an oil... it is a water soluble extract - the citricidal

i use is 40% glycerine i believe. I am not about to get into a

debate on it's use as a preservative but i will say this. There is

no one ingredient that will stand alone as an effective

preservative, be it synthetic or natural. That is why large

companies use " preservative blends " . Germall and germaben are

preservative blends...

I would like to see research on body care products not actually

penetrating through all layers of the skin. If this is so why are

so many things off limits to pregnant women. I would have to differ

in opinion here. But there is always different opinions of

consumers out there and some are into purer products than others.

(not all of us buy or consume foods that contain preservatives

either) I personally would never use any sort of paraben on my

children or myself (and several other common ingredients) and know

there are many out there in the same boat as me....

Cheers all!

Sunny Imhof

Lizardhead Natural Products

>

> GSE is an oil not a preservative. It is a good oil to add to

> scrubs. If you search and search on the internet for proof that

GSE

> has been proven to be effective for use as a preservative you will

> find nothing, noto! The only thing you will find are test showing

> that it works with a synthetic preservative added to it. The

> testing that has been done on GSE has had additional preservatives

> added so the testing is really worthless. As of now, there is

> nothing, absolutely nothing that is natural that will work for

> preservation, regardless what you hear. Don't take my word or

> anyone elses word. Research this and you will find the truth. If

> your selling to the public you really need to know the truth

because

> it can be costly if someone buys your product and they get some

type

> of bacteria infection from it. Otherwise you need to inform your

> customers and have it labeled that you don't preserve your

products.

> If you fall for the hype that GSE is a preservative then send a

> sample to a lab and have it tested. Chances are it will come back

> as not acceptable.

>

> As far as using preservatives and wanting to use natural... Look

at

> all the food products your eating. They have preservatives in them

> and your eating them so why worry about a lotion with preservative

> in it that is only being applied to the skin (which doesn't

actually

> go through all the layers anyway).

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, your right, typing error on my part about it being an oil.

Guess I was typing faster than my thoughts.

Not all products (ingredients) can penetrating the skin. Think

about it, your skin is a protector, the skin serves as a barrier

that prevents microorganisms and other substances from entering the

body. That is its function. If everything could be absorbed

through every layer of the skin then we'd all be sick. Some things

can penetrate through all layers but not everything. Mineral oil

does not penetrate, it just sits there forming a coating on top of

the skin.

> Had to repost:) sorry if this got sent twice

> GSE is not an oil... it is a water soluble extract - the

citricidal

> i use is 40% glycerine i believe. I am not about to get into a

> debate on it's use as a preservative but i will say this. There

is

> no one ingredient that will stand alone as an effective

> preservative, be it synthetic or natural. That is why large

> companies use " preservative blends " . Germall and germaben are

> preservative blends...

> I would like to see research on body care products not actually

> penetrating through all layers of the skin. If this is so why are

> so many things off limits to pregnant women. I would have to

differ

> in opinion here. But there is always different opinions of

> consumers out there and some are into purer products than others.

> (not all of us buy or consume foods that contain preservatives

> either) I personally would never use any sort of paraben on my

> children or myself (and several other common ingredients) and know

> there are many out there in the same boat as me....

> Cheers all!

> Sunny Imhof

> Lizardhead Natural Products

> >

> > GSE is an oil not a preservative. It is a good oil to add to

> > scrubs. If you search and search on the internet for proof that

> GSE

> > has been proven to be effective for use as a preservative you

will

> > find nothing, noto! The only thing you will find are test

showing

> > that it works with a synthetic preservative added to it. The

> > testing that has been done on GSE has had additional

preservatives

> > added so the testing is really worthless. As of now, there is

> > nothing, absolutely nothing that is natural that will work for

> > preservation, regardless what you hear. Don't take my word or

> > anyone elses word. Research this and you will find the truth.

If

> > your selling to the public you really need to know the truth

> because

> > it can be costly if someone buys your product and they get some

> type

> > of bacteria infection from it. Otherwise you need to inform

your

> > customers and have it labeled that you don't preserve your

> products.

> > If you fall for the hype that GSE is a preservative then send a

> > sample to a lab and have it tested. Chances are it will come

back

> > as not acceptable.

> >

> > As far as using preservatives and wanting to use natural... Look

> at

> > all the food products your eating. They have preservatives in

them

> > and your eating them so why worry about a lotion with

preservative

> > in it that is only being applied to the skin (which doesn't

> actually

> > go through all the layers anyway).

> >

> >