Re: Diploma in Remote & Offshore Medicine

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Ian,

can you contact me off list?

>From: " Ian Sharpe " <Ian@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Diploma in Remote & Offshore Medicine

>Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:00:23 +0500

>

>Dear All,

>

>As I mentioned some time ago Ross and I have been in discussion with one

>of the academic organisations in the UK in regard to setting up a higher

>education program / course for remote medics. I can now report that stage

>one has been completed and the initial outline of the course has been

>accepted

>by the Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh. We have now been given the

>go ahead to move onto stage 2.

>

>We now need to find sponsorship to get the course off the ground and we

>also need to find module authors. In regard to sponsorship, we need to

>raise

>in the region of 75,000 UK Pounds, this will be used to offset the colleges

>admin costs and the costs of the tutors.

>

>To that end I need three things from the group membership, and preferably

>in this order;

>

>I. Suggested sponsors, i.e. a company, a contact name and a method of

>contacting

>them, preferably both email and snail mail addresses.

>

>2. Suggested tutors for the modules, remember most of the tuition will be

>distance learning with only short periods at the college. A full module

>program is available for download at

>/files/

>in PDF format, the file is titled Dip ROM.

>

>3. A need a rough idea of members interested in doing in the course,

>obviously

>it will be privately funded but the more sponsorship we can raise the less

>it will cost students.

>

>Finally I need your support, so far Ross and I have done this alone, any

>suggestions or help, you, your employers or your auntie Mabel's cat can

>provide will be gratefully received. Also keep an eye on the list over the

>next couple of days for an announcement concerning the formation of an

>Association........

>

>With Best Wishes

>

>Ian

>List owner

>

>____________________________

>Ian Sharpe

>International SOS Paramedic

>Bautino Marine Base

>Kazakhstan

>Tel Office + 31 70 313 3655

>Tel Mob (GSM) +44 (0)705 0044385

>

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To All

As a full member of the RCSEd what is the point of this if you have taken your

Offshore medics course you have proved yourself in the eyes of the national

body the HSE. What is required is to be recognised internationally, I'm sorry

but we all have a job that if your not up to scratch they soon replace you and

bloody fast to and I'll blow my own horn if you open your mouth to right wrongs

they do the same (FM). What is required is for the major nation of oil

production and exploration (USA) unfortunatly a nation of double standards(when

it suits them) to be made aware of what our standards are.

I and many of you have to deal with the ones that dont make the grade in the

European sector and the Gulf and wonder how to preserve a 300lb body that had no

right to be in the industry in the first place.

Well thats that off my chest ..............will be looking for a new job next

week lol

TM

gordon scott <gordonscott18@...> wrote: Ian,

can you contact me off list?

>From: " Ian Sharpe " <Ian@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Diploma in Remote & Offshore Medicine

>Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:00:23 +0500

>

>Dear All,

>

>As I mentioned some time ago Ross and I have been in discussion with one

>of the academic organisations in the UK in regard to setting up a higher

>education program / course for remote medics. I can now report that stage

>one has been completed and the initial outline of the course has been

>accepted

>by the Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh. We have now been given the

>go ahead to move onto stage 2.

>

>We now need to find sponsorship to get the course off the ground and we

>also need to find module authors. In regard to sponsorship, we need to

>raise

>in the region of 75,000 UK Pounds, this will be used to offset the colleges

>admin costs and the costs of the tutors.

>

>To that end I need three things from the group membership, and preferably

>in this order;

>

>I. Suggested sponsors, i.e. a company, a contact name and a method of

>contacting

>them, preferably both email and snail mail addresses.

>

>2. Suggested tutors for the modules, remember most of the tuition will be

>distance learning with only short periods at the college. A full module

>program is available for download at

>/files/

>in PDF format, the file is titled Dip ROM.

>

>3. A need a rough idea of members interested in doing in the course,

>obviously

>it will be privately funded but the more sponsorship we can raise the less

>it will cost students.

>

>Finally I need your support, so far Ross and I have done this alone, any

>suggestions or help, you, your employers or your auntie Mabel's cat can

>provide will be gratefully received. Also keep an eye on the list over the

>next couple of days for an announcement concerning the formation of an

>Association........

>

>With Best Wishes

>

>Ian

>List owner

>

>____________________________

>Ian Sharpe

>International SOS Paramedic

>Bautino Marine Base

>Kazakhstan

>Tel Office + 31 70 313 3655

>Tel Mob (GSM) +44 (0)705 0044385

>

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In article <20020607231302.56527.qmail@...>, Tony M

<gold_wing_uk@...> writes

>

>To All

>As a full member of the RCSEd what is the point of this if you have taken your

>Offshore medics course you have proved yourself in the eyes of the national

>body the HSE. What is required is to be recognised internationally, I'm sorry

>but we all have a job that if your not up to scratch they soon replace you and

>bloody fast to and I'll blow my own horn if you open your mouth to right wrongs

>they do the same (FM). What is required is for the major nation of oil

>production and exploration (USA) unfortunatly a nation of double standards(when

>it suits them) to be made aware of what our standards are.

You make a good point. I guess international recognition of standards

becomes more likely as academic institutions such as the RCSEd become

involved

Cheers

--

Jel Coward

The UK Wilderness Emergency Medical Technician and Command Physician course is

10-16th November 2002 at Glenmore Lodge, Aviemore, Scotland

http://www.wildmedic.org

http://www.wemsi.org

jel@...

'There's no such thing as bad weather - just bad clothing "

Anon Norwegian

[Guest guest]

Jel,

A couple of the reasons for going doing the RCSEd route were the recognition

of the course and the ability to attract expertise and research. One dream

is to create an e-centre of excellence for remote medicine and this is a

path we can follow to get that credibility.

Ross

PS Can you contact me offline, I guess you know I'm going to mug you for

something

>

> You make a good point. I guess international recognition of standards

> becomes more likely as academic institutions such as the RCSEd become

> involved

>

> Cheers

> --

> Jel Coward

>

> The UK Wilderness Emergency Medical Technician and Command

> Physician course is

> 10-16th November 2002 at Glenmore Lodge, Aviemore, Scotland

>

> http://www.wildmedic.org

> http://www.wemsi.org

>

> jel@...

>

> 'There's no such thing as bad weather - just bad clothing "

> Anon Norwegian

>

[Guest guest]

In article <ACEPKDPKAOBGINBGKJABKEAODBAA.ross@...>, Ross

Boardman <ross.boardman@...> writes

>

>PS Can you contact me offline, I guess you know I'm going to mug you for

>something

>

Beat you to it - I have already emailed Ian - now forwarded to you

Cheers

--

Jel Coward

The UK Wilderness Emergency Medical Technician and Command Physician course is

10-16th November 2002 at Glenmore Lodge, Aviemore, Scotland

http://www.wildmedic.org

http://www.wemsi.org

jel@...

'There's no such thing as bad weather - just bad clothing "

Anon Norwegian

[Guest guest]

This is an interesting project and I would endorse anything that sets

the ball rolling. Even if things are not perfect in the design unless

we start somewhere we will never start. Anything I can do just ask.

Dave Connell

Austere Medical Solutions Ltd

www.amsteam.co.uk

[Guest guest]

Now I am from the USA, and I run the medical department of a USA

based company, and I agree with you 100%.

I have been trying very hard to have standards put in place. I have

met with many of the major medical associations in the USA and they

are in agreement.

The problem is no one seems to be willing to take the fight on. I

have been met with alot of resistance from many companies. I have

also been met with resistance from nurses and physicians alike who

are not savy to the remote environment and are more concerned about

who should be privaledged enough to perform certain skills.

They are all pretty happy living in a grey area where standards and

skills vary from company to company. I would love to see more

organization and cooperation in creating an international standard.

And I am willing to do my part to see it happen.

My apologies for jumping in so strong, but it is a topic I am very

passionate about. I can assure you it is not the medics, but in most

cases the companies that are creating this problem.

> In article <20020607231302.56527.qmail@w...>, Tony M

> <gold_wing_uk@y...> writes

> >

> >To All

> >As a full member of the RCSEd what is the point of this if you

have taken your

> >Offshore medics course you have proved yourself in the eyes of

the national

> >body the HSE. What is required is to be recognised

internationally, I'm sorry

> >but we all have a job that if your not up to scratch they soon

replace you and

> >bloody fast to and I'll blow my own horn if you open your mouth to

right wrongs

> >they do the same (FM). What is required is for the major nation of

oil

> >production and exploration (USA) unfortunatly a nation of double

standards(when

> >it suits them) to be made aware of what our standards are.

>

> You make a good point. I guess international recognition of

standards

> becomes more likely as academic institutions such as the RCSEd

become

> involved

>

> Cheers

> --

> Jel Coward

>

> The UK Wilderness Emergency Medical Technician and Command

Physician course is

> 10-16th November 2002 at Glenmore Lodge, Aviemore, Scotland

>

> http://www.wildmedic.org

> http://www.wemsi.org

>

> jel@w...

>

> 'There's no such thing as bad weather - just bad clothing "

> Anon Norwegian

[Guest guest]

Now matter where in the world you are, we all seem to come up against the

same problems, high level support. But I know the States has its own

particular problems. I have a good friend who has just moved from Tennessee

to Texas and her Nursing qualifications and 18 years experience count for

nothing. She is going to have to sit an exam to be allowed to practice in

Texas, which I believe aint cheap. Don't you Yanks all belong to the same

country. Noe she is working in a book store, and they wonder why people are

leaving the medical profession in the thousands

regards

neil Poole

FSU Soorena

Iran

Re: Diploma in Remote & Offshore Medicine

Now I am from the USA, and I run the medical department of a USA

based company, and I agree with you 100%.

I have been trying very hard to have standards put in place. I have

met with many of the major medical associations in the USA and they

are in agreement.

The problem is no one seems to be willing to take the fight on. I

have been met with alot of resistance from many companies. I have

also been met with resistance from nurses and physicians alike who

are not savy to the remote environment and are more concerned about

who should be privaledged enough to perform certain skills.

They are all pretty happy living in a grey area where standards and

skills vary from company to company. I would love to see more

organization and cooperation in creating an international standard.

And I am willing to do my part to see it happen.

My apologies for jumping in so strong, but it is a topic I am very

passionate about. I can assure you it is not the medics, but in most

cases the companies that are creating this problem.

> In article <20020607231302.56527.qmail@w...>, Tony M

> <gold_wing_uk@y...> writes

> >

> >To All

> >As a full member of the RCSEd what is the point of this if you

have taken your

> >Offshore medics course you have proved yourself in the eyes of

the national

> >body the HSE. What is required is to be recognised

internationally, I'm sorry

> >but we all have a job that if your not up to scratch they soon

replace you and

> >bloody fast to and I'll blow my own horn if you open your mouth to

right wrongs

> >they do the same (FM). What is required is for the major nation of

oil

> >production and exploration (USA) unfortunatly a nation of double

standards(when

> >it suits them) to be made aware of what our standards are.

>

> You make a good point. I guess international recognition of

standards

> becomes more likely as academic institutions such as the RCSEd

become

> involved

>

> Cheers

> --

> Jel Coward

>

> The UK Wilderness Emergency Medical Technician and Command

Physician course is

> 10-16th November 2002 at Glenmore Lodge, Aviemore, Scotland

>

> http://www.wildmedic.org

> http://www.wemsi.org

>

> jel@w...

>

> 'There's no such thing as bad weather - just bad clothing "

> Anon Norwegian

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