Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 I have been some places where ethanol is kept specifically for this process it can also be given IV, It actually competes better than methanol for the enzyme that breaks it down and so remains as methanol, Dialysis will be needed as well as continuous Ethanol( oral or infusion) untill the Methanol is removed. Brash Senior Nurse Supervisor International SOS \ Cabinda Gulf Oil Company e-mail: Amed2@... Telephone: CTN. 8 345 2696 Via London 020 74878100 Cabinda Ext. 2696 > Methanol poisoning! > > > Hi folks, > > Those of you working in the oil production industry may well be aware of > this but I (after 20 years in the business!)have > just discovered that the immediate treatment for oral ingestion of > Methanol > is -- 150mls of vodka!! > > There is apparently some complex chemical interaction in the liver where > the > vodka (ethanol)converts the Methanol to a > less toxic substance. I knew all that boozing would come in handy one day! > > Fascinating stuff - but can you imagine the difficulties in actually > getting > the patient to drink neat vodka -- without > ice, lemon and a splash of tonic! > > Take care out there > > Buck > Medic/Vodka Custodian > Ninian Southern Platform > Somewhere NE of the Shetland Islands. > > > Member Information: > > List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... > Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > > Post message: egroups > Subscribe: -subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > > Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 The treatment of any poisoning in remote areas must be reflected in our planning. It would be interesting to see how many of us have a bottle of vodka handy for these events. I quote from the BNF, " Ethanol (by mouth or by intravenous infusion) is used for the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning. Fomepizole (available on named-patient basis from the UK National Poisons Information Service or from IDIS) has also been used for the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning. Advice on the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning should be obtained from Poisons Information Centres. " Nigel Mitton Medic Teguentour Base In Salah Gas Algeria +44 (1932) 756474 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Hi Buck, people used to laugh at me when I told them about this. By the way, the amount you give them is dependant on body weight, 1 cl per kilo body weight. Regards Neil Poole FSU Soorena somewhere of the Northern Iranian Coast Methanol poisoning! Hi folks, Those of you working in the oil production industry may well be aware of this but I (after 20 years in the business!)have just discovered that the immediate treatment for oral ingestion of Methanol is -- 150mls of vodka!! There is apparently some complex chemical interaction in the liver where the vodka (ethanol)converts the Methanol to a less toxic substance. I knew all that boozing would come in handy one day! Fascinating stuff - but can you imagine the difficulties in actually getting the patient to drink neat vodka -- without ice, lemon and a splash of tonic! Take care out there Buck Medic/Vodka Custodian Ninian Southern Platform Somewhere NE of the Shetland Islands. Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... Post message: egroups Subscribe: -subscribeegroups Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Jesus! You lot are so clever! Good response folks. Cheers (hic!) Buck Methanol poisoning! > > > Hi folks, > > Those of you working in the oil production industry may well be aware of > this but I (after 20 years in the business!)have > just discovered that the immediate treatment for oral ingestion of > Methanol > is -- 150mls of vodka!! > > There is apparently some complex chemical interaction in the liver where > the > vodka (ethanol)converts the Methanol to a > less toxic substance. I knew all that boozing would come in handy one day! > > Fascinating stuff - but can you imagine the difficulties in actually > getting > the patient to drink neat vodka -- without > ice, lemon and a splash of tonic! > > Take care out there > > Buck > Medic/Vodka Custodian > Ninian Southern Platform > Somewhere NE of the Shetland Islands. > > > Member Information: > > List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... > Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > > Post message: egroups > Subscribe: -subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > > Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Kev, I don't know much about methanol poisioning, but I think after my last trip on S. Explorer (Then Northern Explorer) I almost certainly had alcohol poisioning 10 days tied up in Esbjerg does not do the liver any favours at all...... Rgs Ian >-- Original Message -- > >From: exp-medic@... >Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:52:49 +0100 >Subject: RE: Methanol poisoning! >Reply- > > > > > Hi All, > >You do realise by publishing this we will now have a massive influx of >people queuing up for treatment >of supposed Methanol poisoning and deplete our much needed supply of >ethanol, >but i suppose there is always tonic water with ice and a slice but it just >does not have the same kick to it. >O well lets just hope the Teddy bears don't get hold of this . > > > > > > Regards > > >KDevereux > > > Devereux >HSC >M.V. Seaway Explorer >Stolt Offshore > >Phone: +44 (0) 1224 718861 >Fax: +44 (0) 1224 718860 >E-mail: exp-medic@... > > > > > > > > FSU Medic > > <fsu022iooc (DOT) " ' ' " > > net> < > > > cc: > > 04/05/2002 Subject: RE: >Methanol poisoning! > 12:04 > > Please > > respond to > > RemoteSupport > > Medics > > > > > > > > > >I have been some places where ethanol is kept specifically for this process >it can also be given IV, It actually competes better than methanol for the >enzyme that breaks it down and so remains as methanol, Dialysis will be >needed as well as continuous Ethanol( oral or infusion) untill the Methanol >is removed. > > > > Brash >Senior Nurse Supervisor >International SOS \ Cabinda Gulf Oil Company >e-mail: Amed2@... >Telephone: CTN. 8 345 2696 >Via London 020 74878100 Cabinda Ext. 2 > > >The treatment of any poisoning in remote areas must be reflected in our >planning. It would be interesting to see how many of us have a bottle of >vodka handy for these events. > >I quote from the BNF, " Ethanol (by mouth or by intravenous infusion) is >used >for the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning. Fomepizole (available on >named-patient basis from the UK National Poisons Information Service or >from >IDIS) has also been used for the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning. >Advice on the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning should be obtained >from >Poisons Information Centres. " > >Nigel Mitton >Medic >Teguentour Base >In Salah Gas >Algeria > >+44 (1932) 756474 > > >Hi Buck, > people used to laugh at me when I told them about this. By the >way, the amount you give them is dependant on body weight, 1 cl per kilo >body weight. > >Regards > >Neil Poole >FSU Soorena >somewhere of the Northern Iranian Coast > > Methanol poisoning! > > > >Hi folks, > >Those of you working in the oil production industry may well be aware of >this but I (after 20 years in the business!)have >just discovered that the immediate treatment for oral ingestion of Methanol >is -- 150mls of vodka!! > >There is apparently some complex chemical interaction in the liver where >the >vodka (ethanol)converts the Methanol to a >less toxic substance. I knew all that boozing would come in handy one day! > >Fascinating stuff - but can you imagine the difficulties in actually >getting >the patient to drink neat vodka -- without >ice, lemon and a splash of tonic! > >Take care out there > >Buck >Medic/Vodka Custodian >Ninian Southern Platform >Somewhere NE of the Shetland Islands. > > >Member Information: > >List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > >Post message: egroups >Subscribe: -subscribeegroups >Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > >Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Hi All, You do realise by publishing this we will now have a massive influx of people queuing up for treatment of supposed Methanol poisoning and deplete our much needed supply of ethanol, but i suppose there is always tonic water with ice and a slice but it just does not have the same kick to it. O well lets just hope the Teddy bears don't get hold of this . Regards KDevereux Devereux HSC M.V. Seaway Explorer Stolt Offshore Phone: +44 (0) 1224 718861 Fax: +44 (0) 1224 718860 E-mail: exp-medic@... FSU Medic <fsu022iooc (DOT) " ' ' " net> < > cc: 04/05/2002 Subject: RE: Methanol poisoning! 12:04 Please respond to RemoteSupport Medics I have been some places where ethanol is kept specifically for this process it can also be given IV, It actually competes better than methanol for the enzyme that breaks it down and so remains as methanol, Dialysis will be needed as well as continuous Ethanol( oral or infusion) untill the Methanol is removed. Brash Senior Nurse Supervisor International SOS \ Cabinda Gulf Oil Company e-mail: Amed2@... Telephone: CTN. 8 345 2696 Via London 020 74878100 Cabinda Ext. 2 The treatment of any poisoning in remote areas must be reflected in our planning. It would be interesting to see how many of us have a bottle of vodka handy for these events. I quote from the BNF, " Ethanol (by mouth or by intravenous infusion) is used for the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning. Fomepizole (available on named-patient basis from the UK National Poisons Information Service or from IDIS) has also been used for the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning. Advice on the treatment of ethylene glycol poisoning should be obtained from Poisons Information Centres. " Nigel Mitton Medic Teguentour Base In Salah Gas Algeria +44 (1932) 756474 Hi Buck, people used to laugh at me when I told them about this. By the way, the amount you give them is dependant on body weight, 1 cl per kilo body weight. Regards Neil Poole FSU Soorena somewhere of the Northern Iranian Coast Methanol poisoning! Hi folks, Those of you working in the oil production industry may well be aware of this but I (after 20 years in the business!)have just discovered that the immediate treatment for oral ingestion of Methanol is -- 150mls of vodka!! There is apparently some complex chemical interaction in the liver where the vodka (ethanol)converts the Methanol to a less toxic substance. I knew all that boozing would come in handy one day! Fascinating stuff - but can you imagine the difficulties in actually getting the patient to drink neat vodka -- without ice, lemon and a splash of tonic! Take care out there Buck Medic/Vodka Custodian Ninian Southern Platform Somewhere NE of the Shetland Islands. Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... Post message: egroups Subscribe: -subscribeegroups Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 I seem to recall I posted an algorithm for this on the resources page ages ago, or rather Ross or Ian did on my behalf. carpenter Methanol poisoning! > >Hi folks, > >Those of you working in the oil production industry may well be aware of >this but I (after 20 years in the business!)have >just discovered that the immediate treatment for oral ingestion of Methanol >is -- 150mls of vodka!! > >There is apparently some complex chemical interaction in the liver where the >vodka (ethanol)converts the Methanol to a >less toxic substance. I knew all that boozing would come in handy one day! > >Fascinating stuff - but can you imagine the difficulties in actually getting >the patient to drink neat vodka -- without >ice, lemon and a splash of tonic! > >Take care out there > >Buck >Medic/Vodka Custodian >Ninian Southern Platform >Somewhere NE of the Shetland Islands. > > >Member Information: > >List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > >Post message: egroups >Subscribe: -subscribeegroups >Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > >Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Yes this is true..... methyl alcohol is reversed with ether alcohol. Our local ER/A & E stocks this in the pharmacy for those who choose to drink automotive antifreeze for their buzzzzz..... Take care! Nick ______________ Nick G. Nudell, NREMT-P Education Coordinator Glacier County EMS Cut Bank, MT nick@... " Only dead fish swim with the stream! " --Confucius Methanol poisoning! Hi folks, Those of you working in the oil production industry may well be aware of this but I (after 20 years in the business!)have just discovered that the immediate treatment for oral ingestion of Methanol is -- 150mls of vodka!! There is apparently some complex chemical interaction in the liver where the vodka (ethanol)converts the Methanol to a less toxic substance. I knew all that boozing would come in handy one day! Fascinating stuff - but can you imagine the difficulties in actually getting the patient to drink neat vodka -- without ice, lemon and a splash of tonic! Take care out there Buck Medic/Vodka Custodian Ninian Southern Platform Somewhere NE of the Shetland Islands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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