Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Well .. after reading all the depressing comments that have been posted .. All i would like to say are about 4 things 1) The policies of uk are continuously changing and shortages of dentists tends to occur. So they cant put a halt to vt , this problem is affecting all the people aka dentists and home office will be doing something about it. They do need manpower to overcome economic crisis which they already are in. IF they start kicking the registered dentists then where would they complete their shortage from? 2) I appreciate everyone giving their opinion, but if something closes their always is an alternative to it. I am sure there is some visa that we haven't looked into properly. We should look further into it. 3) Study never tends to go to waste. Whether in uk or australia or usa conditions are almost same. So giving ore cant be more of a waste then applying to other countries. 4) Lastly you always take 1 step at a time and give it your best. Most of you havent even completed ore including me and even before anything we are saying what about visa. Please get registered first. Then you can think with an open mind what to do next. So if anyone actually finds something positive to add to it regarding things that are possible like vinni did tau I am a sure all of us would love to hear of it. Its better to be positive about the fact that we can come and give ore and be registered ONCE we pass. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Dear Friends this is what I wanted to know THAT DOES YOUR GDC registration get you EMPLOYMENT in anyOTHER COUNTRY ? kindly share info if any one has some thanks Prateek From: marcesanchezf@...Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:15:25 -0800Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements For sitting the ORE, ANY visa will work, what you need to think is what will you do in the long term after passing both examns as passing doesn't guaranty you are able to work in the UK. We all need to think about it as this is a long, difficult and expensive process and immigration laws are becoming tighter every time. From: naresh kumar <arroranaresh@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 12:50:29Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements hello every one, i am planing to give ore exam in april. can any one plz tell me what should i do? should i come to the uk as a visitor? should i give the exam of ore or not? as there are many complications after passing the ore. . . plz help me . . .thanks From: Buble <bubled@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 22:13:00Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Hi But those already on Tier 1/dependent visa due to the clause 'no employment as dentist in traning' ,although may be considered resident in UK but the said clause bars them from taking up VT or any post considered as trainee post like SHO etc... From: Suvani Vasudevan <suvani.vasudevan@...>Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements" " < >, "samita.mujtaba@..." <samita.mujtaba@...>Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 4:22 PM Guys I have spoken to a few doctors here and this is what they can make of the statement 'no employment as doctors/ dentist in training'The government sponsors certain training posts in hospitals, which helps hospitals to recruit young doctors as trainees. Hence you will not be eligible for these posts. This dosent mean you cant get employment.Having said that I agree that the immigration laws have been tightened. Like tier 1 visa has been reserved for extremely talented individuals. There are only 3200 odd positions available.So the only other option available is tier 2 for which one needs sponsorship.For those who already have tier 1 you have residential permit and this allows you to do vt. However you should be settled atleast a year before your renewal otherwise you won't be able to meet the income requirements. Hope this helps Regards Vani Sent from on Android From: Samita <samita.mujtaba@...>; < >; Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Sent: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 2:05:21 PM hi everybody,aqsa fatima is right,uk immigration has been very strict during last 6 months,they are completeley closing of hsmp,work permit or any kind of work visa from april 2011,even though we are getting registeration with gdc,but they have mentioned already that 'no employment as a doctor or dentist in training'that means they dont need more doctors or dentist,bcoz they are appointing european dentist ,why they would appoint us with so many obligations with uk border.so that means we are wasting our time n money for ore,if after all this complications,we cant get proper work visa,then whats the point of ore.....one of my friend ,she passed last year,but couldn't get tier 1 visa,n now she has gone to back home...hope it will help...thanks> > > From: Sneha Pandya <dr_snehapandya@...>> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> > Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 3:16 PM> > >  > > > > > > > > Hi, >  > So if I want to come on my own visa and not on Dependent visa for which category I have to apply now for VT training once I complete ORE part 2? Currently I am appearing for ORE part 1 this April.>  > Or If I can not come on my own as I am not holding master degree and BDS is not valid there, then for which visa category my Husband should apply (he is holding mater's degree in IT) so that I will be eligible as dependent for VT. >  > NOTE: Previously I came to UK on Tier 2 Dependent visa, but on my Visa it was clearly mentioned that I can not work/training as dentist. So if I come on Tier 1 or other category then this message won't be there? >  >  > If anybody has some idea or in same situation like me then please share your information on this? >  > Thanks in advance.>  > -Sneha >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>> > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 12:24:05 AM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > > > > > The fact that a dentist has gained the right to enter to the UK does not override the legal requirements that any dentist practising in the UK must hold appropriate registration with the General Dental Council (GDC). Likewise, registration with the GDC or eligibility to apply for registration does not itself convey a right to entry to the UK, or the right to work in the UK.> > > > Tier 1> Highly skilled individuals to contribute to growth and productivity. Tier 1 has replaced the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). Any individual who would have previously applied through the HSMP route will now follow the Tier 1 process when their existing permission to stay ends. If you are eligible to enter the UK under Tier 1, you do not require a job offer before entering the UK. In Tier 1 applications, the level of academic qualifications needed must be equivalent to a UK Masters degree as confirmed by UK NARIC. If your visa states that you cannot work in any training posts, then you are not eligible to apply for House Officer, Senior House Officer, Dental Foundation 1 and 2, Vocational Trainee General Professional Trainee (GPT) or Specialist Registrar posts in the UK. On 19 July 2010 an interim limit on the number of visas issued to Tier 1 was introduced. There has also been an increase in the number of points required for a Tier 1 applicant.> The Tier 1 (general) visa is currently colsed to migrants who are overseas (February 2011).> > > > Vocational Trainee> These posts are being replaced by DF1 posts. If you have entered the UK on a Tier 1 Visa which states that you are not eligible for doctor or dentist training posts, you would not be able to apply for one of these posts.> If you have completed your undergraduate training in dentistry in one of the UK dental schools, and have full registration with the GDC, but you are not an EEA citizen, you would still be able to apply for VT or Foundation training. You should contact lin at COPDEND regarding visa sponsorship.> You will require to have full registration with the GDC.> SO i guess......> Since the Tier visa is closed now, there is no point in giving ore for those who cant stay in uk for a year after ore for their vocational training.Please check your status through the authentic websites because you might end up wasting money and time.> > > Regards> > > Aqsa> > > From: Jiwan Gurung <jiwankumarg@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 8:50:39 PM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > Hi you will probably require a visit visa and make sure your exam date is within the visa time period. >  > Thanks> > > > > > From: thomashwin <thomashwin@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:56:42 PM> Subject: VIsa Requirements> >  > > I am Ashwin.I would like to apply for ORE oart 1..MY bro is working in UK.Can anybody tell me How do i go about with the visa requiremennts.I am currently in India working in a hospital.Shoul i take the general visit visa or the students visit visa.> Thank you .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Hi pratiekEvery country has it's own set of qualifying exams and registration body. GDC registration does not guarantee you a dental job in Uk, so my friend forget about other countries. It only adds up to your cv and improves your knowledge and skills. No matter which country you go you will have to appear their set of exams... So my friend plan ahead before investing cos if u fail to plan u plan to fail. Sent from my iPhoneOn 22 Feb 2011, at 05:04, prateek arora <drprateekarora@...> wrote: Dear Friends this is what I wanted to know THAT DOES YOUR GDC registration get you EMPLOYMENT in anyOTHER COUNTRY ? kindly share info if any one has some thanks Prateek From: marcesanchezf@...Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:15:25 -0800Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements For sitting the ORE, ANY visa will work, what you need to think is what will you do in the long term after passing both examns as passing doesn't guaranty you are able to work in the UK. We all need to think about it as this is a long, difficult and expensive process and immigration laws are becoming tighter every time. From: naresh kumar <arroranaresh@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 12:50:29Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements hello every one, i am planing to give ore exam in april. can any one plz tell me what should i do? should i come to the uk as a visitor? should i give the exam of ore or not? as there are many complications after passing the ore. . . plz help me . . .thanks From: Buble <bubled@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 22:13:00Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Hi But those already on Tier 1/dependent visa due to the clause 'no employment as dentist in traning' ,although may be considered resident in UK but the said clause bars them from taking up VT or any post considered as trainee post like SHO etc... From: Suvani Vasudevan <suvani.vasudevan@...>Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements" " < >, "samita.mujtaba@..." <samita.mujtaba@...>Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 4:22 PM Guys I have spoken to a few doctors here and this is what they can make of the statement 'no employment as doctors/ dentist in training'The government sponsors certain training posts in hospitals, which helps hospitals to recruit young doctors as trainees. Hence you will not be eligible for these posts. This dosent mean you cant get employment.Having said that I agree that the immigration laws have been tightened. Like tier 1 visa has been reserved for extremely talented individuals. There are only 3200 odd positions available.So the only other option available is tier 2 for which one needs sponsorship.For those who already have tier 1 you have residential permit and this allows you to do vt. However you should be settled atleast a year before your renewal otherwise you won't be able to meet the income requirements. Hope this helps Regards Vani Sent from on Android From: Samita <samita.mujtaba@...>; < >; Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Sent: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 2:05:21 PM hi everybody,aqsa fatima is right,uk immigration has been very strict during last 6 months,they are completeley closing of hsmp,work permit or any kind of work visa from april 2011,even though we are getting registeration with gdc,but they have mentioned already that 'no employment as a doctor or dentist in training'that means they dont need more doctors or dentist,bcoz they are appointing european dentist ,why they would appoint us with so many obligations with uk border.so that means we are wasting our time n money for ore,if after all this complications,we cant get proper work visa,then whats the point of ore.....one of my friend ,she passed last year,but couldn't get tier 1 visa,n now she has gone to back home...hope it will help...thanks> > > From: Sneha Pandya <dr_snehapandya@...>> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> > Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 3:16 PM> > >  > > > > > > > > Hi, >  > So if I want to come on my own visa and not on Dependent visa for which category I have to apply now for VT training once I complete ORE part 2? Currently I am appearing for ORE part 1 this April.>  > Or If I can not come on my own as I am not holding master degree and BDS is not valid there, then for which visa category my Husband should apply (he is holding mater's degree in IT) so that I will be eligible as dependent for VT. >  > NOTE: Previously I came to UK on Tier 2 Dependent visa, but on my Visa it was clearly mentioned that I can not work/training as dentist. So if I come on Tier 1 or other category then this message won't be there? >  >  > If anybody has some idea or in same situation like me then please share your information on this? >  > Thanks in advance.>  > -Sneha >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>> > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 12:24:05 AM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > > > > > The fact that a dentist has gained the right to enter to the UK does not override the legal requirements that any dentist practising in the UK must hold appropriate registration with the General Dental Council (GDC). Likewise, registration with the GDC or eligibility to apply for registration does not itself convey a right to entry to the UK, or the right to work in the UK.> > > > Tier 1> Highly skilled individuals to contribute to growth and productivity. Tier 1 has replaced the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). Any individual who would have previously applied through the HSMP route will now follow the Tier 1 process when their existing permission to stay ends. If you are eligible to enter the UK under Tier 1, you do not require a job offer before entering the UK. In Tier 1 applications, the level of academic qualifications needed must be equivalent to a UK Masters degree as confirmed by UK NARIC. If your visa states that you cannot work in any training posts, then you are not eligible to apply for House Officer, Senior House Officer, Dental Foundation 1 and 2, Vocational Trainee General Professional Trainee (GPT) or Specialist Registrar posts in the UK. On 19 July 2010 an interim limit on the number of visas issued to Tier 1 was introduced. There has also been an increase in the number of points required for a Tier 1 applicant.> The Tier 1 (general) visa is currently colsed to migrants who are overseas (February 2011).> > > > Vocational Trainee> These posts are being replaced by DF1 posts. If you have entered the UK on a Tier 1 Visa which states that you are not eligible for doctor or dentist training posts, you would not be able to apply for one of these posts.> If you have completed your undergraduate training in dentistry in one of the UK dental schools, and have full registration with the GDC, but you are not an EEA citizen, you would still be able to apply for VT or Foundation training. You should contact lin at COPDEND regarding visa sponsorship.> You will require to have full registration with the GDC.> SO i guess......> Since the Tier visa is closed now, there is no point in giving ore for those who cant stay in uk for a year after ore for their vocational training.Please check your status through the authentic websites because you might end up wasting money and time.> > > Regards> > > Aqsa> > > From: Jiwan Gurung <jiwankumarg@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 8:50:39 PM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > Hi you will probably require a visit visa and make sure your exam date is within the visa time period. >  > Thanks> > > > > > From: thomashwin <thomashwin@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:56:42 PM> Subject: VIsa Requirements> >  > > I am Ashwin.I would like to apply for ORE oart 1..MY bro is working in UK.Can anybody tell me How do i go about with the visa requiremennts.I am currently in India working in a hospital.Shoul i take the general visit visa or the students visit visa.> Thank you .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 thanks dr imtiyaz that clarifies, simplifies things for me From: drimtiyaz23@...Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:24:58 +0000Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Hi pratiek Every country has it's own set of qualifying exams and registration body. GDC registration does not guarantee you a dental job in Uk, so my friend forget about other countries. It only adds up to your cv and improves your knowledge and skills. No matter which country you go you will have to appear their set of exams... So my friend plan ahead before investing cos if u fail to plan u plan to fail. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Feb 2011, at 05:04, prateek arora <drprateekarora@...> wrote: Dear Friends this is what I wanted to know THAT DOES YOUR GDC registration get you EMPLOYMENT in anyOTHER COUNTRY ? kindly share info if any one has some thanks Prateek From: marcesanchezf@...Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:15:25 -0800Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements For sitting the ORE, ANY visa will work, what you need to think is what will you do in the long term after passing both examns as passing doesn't guaranty you are able to work in the UK. We all need to think about it as this is a long, difficult and expensive process and immigration laws are becoming tighter every time. From: naresh kumar <arroranaresh@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 12:50:29Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements hello every one, i am planing to give ore exam in april. can any one plz tell me what should i do? should i come to the uk as a visitor? should i give the exam of ore or not? as there are many complications after passing the ore. . . plz help me . . .thanks From: Buble <bubled@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 22:13:00Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Hi But those already on Tier 1/dependent visa due to the clause 'no employment as dentist in traning' ,although may be considered resident in UK but the said clause bars them from taking up VT or any post considered as trainee post like SHO etc... From: Suvani Vasudevan <suvani.vasudevan@...>Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements" " < >, "samita.mujtaba@..." <samita.mujtaba@...>Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 4:22 PM Guys I have spoken to a few doctors here and this is what they can make of the statement 'no employment as doctors/ dentist in training'The government sponsors certain training posts in hospitals, which helps hospitals to recruit young doctors as trainees. Hence you will not be eligible for these posts. This dosent mean you cant get employment.Having said that I agree that the immigration laws have been tightened. Like tier 1 visa has been reserved for extremely talented individuals. There are only 3200 odd positions available.So the only other option available is tier 2 for which one needs sponsorship.For those who already have tier 1 you have residential permit and this allows you to do vt. However you should be settled atleast a year before your renewal otherwise you won't be able to meet the income requirements. Hope this helpsRegards Vani Sent from on Android From: Samita <samita.mujtaba@...>; < >; Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Sent: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 2:05:21 PM hi everybody,aqsa fatima is right,uk immigration has been very strict during last 6 months,they are completeley closing of hsmp,work permit or any kind of work visa from april 2011,even though we are getting registeration with gdc,but they have mentioned already that 'no employment as a doctor or dentist in training'that means they dont need more doctors or dentist,bcoz they are appointing european dentist ,why they would appoint us with so many obligations with uk border.so that means we are wasting our time n money for ore,if after all this complications,we cant get proper work visa,then whats the point of ore.....one of my friend ,she passed last year,but couldn't get tier 1 visa,n now she has gone to back home...hope it will help...thanks> > > From: Sneha Pandya <dr_snehapandya@...>> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> > Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 3:16 PM> > >  > > > > > > > > Hi, >  > So if I want to come on my own visa and not on Dependent visa for which category I have to apply now for VT training once I complete ORE part 2? Currently I am appearing for ORE part 1 this April.>  > Or If I can not come on my own as I am not holding master degree and BDS is not valid there, then for which visa category my Husband should apply (he is holding mater's degree in IT) so that I will be eligible as dependent for VT. >  > NOTE: Previously I came to UK on Tier 2 Dependent visa, but on my Visa it was clearly mentioned that I can not work/training as dentist. So if I come on Tier 1 or other category then this message won't be there? >  >  > If anybody has some idea or in same situation like me then please share your information on this? >  > Thanks in advance.>  > -Sneha >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>> > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 12:24:05 AM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > > > > > The fact that a dentist has gained the right to enter to the UK does not override the legal requirements that any dentist practising in the UK must hold appropriate registration with the General Dental Council (GDC). Likewise, registration with the GDC or eligibility to apply for registration does not itself convey a right to entry to the UK, or the right to work in the UK.> > > > Tier 1> Highly skilled individuals to contribute to growth and productivity. Tier 1 has replaced the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). Any individual who would have previously applied through the HSMP route will now follow the Tier 1 process when their existing permission to stay ends. If you are eligible to enter the UK under Tier 1, you do not require a job offer before entering the UK. In Tier 1 applications, the level of academic qualifications needed must be equivalent to a UK Masters degree as confirmed by UK NARIC. If your visa states that you cannot work in any training posts, then you are not eligible to apply for House Officer, Senior House Officer, Dental Foundation 1 and 2, Vocational Trainee General Professional Trainee (GPT) or Specialist Registrar posts in the UK. On 19 July 2010 an interim limit on the number of visas issued to Tier 1 was introduced. There has also been an increase in the number of points required for a Tier 1 applicant.> The Tier 1 (general) visa is currently colsed to migrants who are overseas (February 2011).> > > > Vocational Trainee> These posts are being replaced by DF1 posts. If you have entered the UK on a Tier 1 Visa which states that you are not eligible for doctor or dentist training posts, you would not be able to apply for one of these posts.> If you have completed your undergraduate training in dentistry in one of the UK dental schools, and have full registration with the GDC, but you are not an EEA citizen, you would still be able to apply for VT or Foundation training. You should contact lin at COPDEND regarding visa sponsorship.> You will require to have full registration with the GDC.> SO i guess......> Since the Tier visa is closed now, there is no point in giving ore for those who cant stay in uk for a year after ore for their vocational training.Please check your status through the authentic websites because you might end up wasting money and time.> > > Regards> > > Aqsa> > > From: Jiwan Gurung <jiwankumarg@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 8:50:39 PM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > Hi you will probably require a visit visa and make sure your exam date is within the visa time period. >  > Thanks> > > > > > From: thomashwin <thomashwin@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:56:42 PM> Subject: VIsa Requirements> >  > > I am Ashwin.I would like to apply for ORE oart 1..MY bro is working in UK.Can anybody tell me How do i go about with the visa requiremennts.I am currently in India working in a hospital.Shoul i take the general visit visa or the students visit visa.> Thank you .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 I know a friend who is registered in the Irish dental council and told me that after three years from being registered there she could work as a dentist in uk.She is Pakistani .Sent from my iPadOn 22 Feb 2011, at 05:24, drimtiyaz23 <drimtiyaz23@...> wrote: Hi pratiekEvery country has it's own set of qualifying exams and registration body. GDC registration does not guarantee you a dental job in Uk, so my friend forget about other countries. It only adds up to your cv and improves your knowledge and skills. No matter which country you go you will have to appear their set of exams... So my friend plan ahead before investing cos if u fail to plan u plan to fail. Sent from my iPhoneOn 22 Feb 2011, at 05:04, prateek arora <drprateekarora@...> wrote: Dear Friends this is what I wanted to know THAT DOES YOUR GDC registration get you EMPLOYMENT in anyOTHER COUNTRY ? kindly share info if any one has some thanks Prateek From: marcesanchezf@...Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:15:25 -0800Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements For sitting the ORE, ANY visa will work, what you need to think is what will you do in the long term after passing both examns as passing doesn't guaranty you are able to work in the UK. We all need to think about it as this is a long, difficult and expensive process and immigration laws are becoming tighter every time. From: naresh kumar <arroranaresh@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 12:50:29Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements hello every one, i am planing to give ore exam in april. can any one plz tell me what should i do? should i come to the uk as a visitor? should i give the exam of ore or not? as there are many complications after passing the ore. . . plz help me . . .thanks From: Buble <bubled@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 22:13:00Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Hi But those already on Tier 1/dependent visa due to the clause 'no employment as dentist in traning' ,although may be considered resident in UK but the said clause bars them from taking up VT or any post considered as trainee post like SHO etc... From: Suvani Vasudevan <suvani.vasudevan@...>Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements" " < >, "samita.mujtaba@..." <samita.mujtaba@...>Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 4:22 PM Guys I have spoken to a few doctors here and this is what they can make of the statement 'no employment as doctors/ dentist in training'The government sponsors certain training posts in hospitals, which helps hospitals to recruit young doctors as trainees. Hence you will not be eligible for these posts. This dosent mean you cant get employment.Having said that I agree that the immigration laws have been tightened. Like tier 1 visa has been reserved for extremely talented individuals. There are only 3200 odd positions available.So the only other option available is tier 2 for which one needs sponsorship.For those who already have tier 1 you have residential permit and this allows you to do vt. However you should be settled atleast a year before your renewal otherwise you won't be able to meet the income requirements. Hope this helps Regards Vani Sent from on Android From: Samita <samita.mujtaba@...>; < >; Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Sent: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 2:05:21 PM hi everybody,aqsa fatima is right,uk immigration has been very strict during last 6 months,they are completeley closing of hsmp,work permit or any kind of work visa from april 2011,even though we are getting registeration with gdc,but they have mentioned already that 'no employment as a doctor or dentist in training'that means they dont need more doctors or dentist,bcoz they are appointing european dentist ,why they would appoint us with so many obligations with uk border.so that means we are wasting our time n money for ore,if after all this complications,we cant get proper work visa,then whats the point of ore.....one of my friend ,she passed last year,but couldn't get tier 1 visa,n now she has gone to back home...hope it will help...thanks> > > From: Sneha Pandya <dr_snehapandya@...>> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> > Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 3:16 PM> > >  > > > > > > > > Hi, >  > So if I want to come on my own visa and not on Dependent visa for which category I have to apply now for VT training once I complete ORE part 2? Currently I am appearing for ORE part 1 this April.>  > Or If I can not come on my own as I am not holding master degree and BDS is not valid there, then for which visa category my Husband should apply (he is holding mater's degree in IT) so that I will be eligible as dependent for VT. >  > NOTE: Previously I came to UK on Tier 2 Dependent visa, but on my Visa it was clearly mentioned that I can not work/training as dentist. So if I come on Tier 1 or other category then this message won't be there? >  >  > If anybody has some idea or in same situation like me then please share your information on this? >  > Thanks in advance.>  > -Sneha >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>> > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 12:24:05 AM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > > > > > The fact that a dentist has gained the right to enter to the UK does not override the legal requirements that any dentist practising in the UK must hold appropriate registration with the General Dental Council (GDC). Likewise, registration with the GDC or eligibility to apply for registration does not itself convey a right to entry to the UK, or the right to work in the UK.> > > > Tier 1> Highly skilled individuals to contribute to growth and productivity. Tier 1 has replaced the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). Any individual who would have previously applied through the HSMP route will now follow the Tier 1 process when their existing permission to stay ends. If you are eligible to enter the UK under Tier 1, you do not require a job offer before entering the UK. In Tier 1 applications, the level of academic qualifications needed must be equivalent to a UK Masters degree as confirmed by UK NARIC. If your visa states that you cannot work in any training posts, then you are not eligible to apply for House Officer, Senior House Officer, Dental Foundation 1 and 2, Vocational Trainee General Professional Trainee (GPT) or Specialist Registrar posts in the UK. On 19 July 2010 an interim limit on the number of visas issued to Tier 1 was introduced. There has also been an increase in the number of points required for a Tier 1 applicant.> The Tier 1 (general) visa is currently colsed to migrants who are overseas (February 2011).> > > > Vocational Trainee> These posts are being replaced by DF1 posts. If you have entered the UK on a Tier 1 Visa which states that you are not eligible for doctor or dentist training posts, you would not be able to apply for one of these posts.> If you have completed your undergraduate training in dentistry in one of the UK dental schools, and have full registration with the GDC, but you are not an EEA citizen, you would still be able to apply for VT or Foundation training. You should contact lin at COPDEND regarding visa sponsorship.> You will require to have full registration with the GDC.> SO i guess......> Since the Tier visa is closed now, there is no point in giving ore for those who cant stay in uk for a year after ore for their vocational training.Please check your status through the authentic websites because you might end up wasting money and time.> > > Regards> > > Aqsa> > > From: Jiwan Gurung <jiwankumarg@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 8:50:39 PM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > Hi you will probably require a visit visa and make sure your exam date is within the visa time period. >  > Thanks> > > > > > From: thomashwin <thomashwin@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:56:42 PM> Subject: VIsa Requirements> >  > > I am Ashwin.I would like to apply for ORE oart 1..MY bro is working in UK.Can anybody tell me How do i go about with the visa requiremennts.I am currently in India working in a hospital.Shoul i take the general visit visa or the students visit visa.> Thank you .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 From: Miral Hasan <miral_hasan@...>" " < >Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:27:59 AMSubject: Re: VIsa Requirements I know a friend who is registered in the Irish dental council and told me that after three years from being registered there she could work as a dentist in uk.She is Pakistani .Sent from my iPad On 22 Feb 2011, at 05:24, drimtiyaz23 <drimtiyaz23@...> wrote: Hi pratiek Every country has it's own set of qualifying exams and registration body. GDC registration does not guarantee you a dental job in Uk, so my friend forget about other countries. It only adds up to your cv and improves your knowledge and skills. No matter which country you go you will have to appear their set of exams... So my friend plan ahead before investing cos if u fail to plan u plan to fail. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Feb 2011, at 05:04, prateek arora <drprateekarora@...> wrote: Dear Friends this is what I wanted to know THAT DOES YOUR GDC registration get you EMPLOYMENT in anyOTHER COUNTRY ? kindly share info if any one has some thanks Prateek From: marcesanchezf@...Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:15:25 -0800Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements For sitting the ORE, ANY visa will work, what you need to think is what will you do in the long term after passing both examns as passing doesn't guaranty you are able to work in the UK. We all need to think about it as this is a long, difficult and expensive process and immigration laws are becoming tighter every time. From: naresh kumar <arroranaresh@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 12:50:29Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements hello every one, i am planing to give ore exam in april. can any one plz tell me what should i do? should i come to the uk as a visitor? should i give the exam of ore or not? as there are many complications after passing the ore. . . plz help me . . .thanks From: Buble <bubled@...> Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 22:13:00Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Hi But those already on Tier 1/dependent visa due to the clause 'no employment as dentist in traning' ,although may be considered resident in UK but the said clause bars them from taking up VT or any post considered as trainee post like SHO etc... From: Suvani Vasudevan <suvani.vasudevan@...>Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements" " < >, "samita.mujtaba@..." <samita.mujtaba@...>Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 4:22 PM Guys I have spoken to a few doctors here and this is what they can make of the statement 'no employment as doctors/ dentist in training'The government sponsors certain training posts in hospitals, which helps hospitals to recruit young doctors as trainees. Hence you will not be eligible for these posts. This dosent mean you cant get employment.Having said that I agree that the immigration laws have been tightened. Like tier 1 visa has been reserved for extremely talented individuals. There are only 3200 odd positions available.So the only other option available is tier 2 for which one needs sponsorship.For those who already have tier 1 you have residential permit and this allows you to do vt. However you should be settled atleast a year before your renewal otherwise you won't be able to meet the income requirements. Hope this helpsRegards Vani Sent from on Android From: Samita <samita.mujtaba@...>; < >; Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements Sent: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 2:05:21 PM hi everybody,aqsa fatima is right,uk immigration has been very strict during last 6 months,they are completeley closing of hsmp,work permit or any kind of work visa from april 2011,even though we are getting registeration with gdc,but they have mentioned already that 'no employment as a doctor or dentist in training'that means they dont need more doctors or dentist,bcoz they are appointing european dentist ,why they would appoint us with so many obligations with uk border.so that means we are wasting our time n money for ore,if after all this complications,we cant get proper work visa,then whats the point of ore.....one of my friend ,she passed last year,but couldn't get tier 1 visa,n now she has gone to back home...hope it will help...thanks> > > From: Sneha Pandya <dr_snehapandya@...>> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> > Date: Sunday, 20 February, 2011, 3:16 PM> > >  > > > > > > > > Hi, >  > So if I want to come on my own visa and not on Dependent visa for which category I have to apply now for VT training once I complete ORE part 2? Currently I am appearing for ORE part 1 this April.>  > Or If I can not come on my own as I am not holding master degree and BDS is not valid there, then for which visa category my Husband should apply (he is holding mater's degree in IT) so that I will be eligible as dependent for VT. >  > NOTE: Previously I came to UK on Tier 2 Dependent visa, but on my Visa it was clearly mentioned that I can not work/training as dentist. So if I come on Tier 1 or other category then this message won't be there? >  >  > If anybody has some idea or in same situation like me then please share your information on this? >  > Thanks in advance.>  > -Sneha >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...>> > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 12:24:05 AM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > > > > > The fact that a dentist has gained the right to enter to the UK does not override the legal requirements that any dentist practising in the UK must hold appropriate registration with the General Dental Council (GDC). Likewise, registration with the GDC or eligibility to apply for registration does not itself convey a right to entry to the UK, or the right to work in the UK.> > > > Tier 1> Highly skilled individuals to contribute to growth and productivity. Tier 1 has replaced the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). Any individual who would have previously applied through the HSMP route will now follow the Tier 1 process when their existing permission to stay ends. If you are eligible to enter the UK under Tier 1, you do not require a job offer before entering the UK. In Tier 1 applications, the level of academic qualifications needed must be equivalent to a UK Masters degree as confirmed by UK NARIC. If your visa states that you cannot work in any training posts, then you are not eligible to apply for House Officer, Senior House Officer, Dental Foundation 1 and 2, Vocational Trainee General Professional Trainee (GPT) or Specialist Registrar posts in the UK. On 19 July 2010 an interim limit on the number of visas issued to Tier 1 was introduced. There has also been an increase in the number of points required for a Tier 1 applicant.> The Tier 1 (general) visa is currently colsed to migrants who are overseas (February 2011).> > > > Vocational Trainee> These posts are being replaced by DF1 posts. If you have entered the UK on a Tier 1 Visa which states that you are not eligible for doctor or dentist training posts, you would not be able to apply for one of these posts.> If you have completed your undergraduate training in dentistry in one of the UK dental schools, and have full registration with the GDC, but you are not an EEA citizen, you would still be able to apply for VT or Foundation training. You should contact lin at COPDEND regarding visa sponsorship.> You will require to have full registration with the GDC.> SO i guess......> Since the Tier visa is closed now, there is no point in giving ore for those who cant stay in uk for a year after ore for their vocational training.Please check your status through the authentic websites because you might end up wasting money and time.> > > Regards> > > Aqsa> > > From: Jiwan Gurung <jiwankumarg@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 8:50:39 PM> Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements> >  > > > > Hi you will probably require a visit visa and make sure your exam date is within the visa time period. >  > Thanks> > > > > > From: thomashwin <thomashwin@...>> > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:56:42 PM> Subject: VIsa Requirements> >  > > I am Ashwin.I would like to apply for ORE oart 1..MY bro is working in UK.Can anybody tell me How do i go about with the visa requiremennts.I am currently in India working in a hospital.Shoul i take the general visit visa or the students visit visa.> Thank you .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 so in conclusion to this disscution: 1. after passing part 2 of ORE we CAN NOT work in SHO or VT BUT we can work in private clinic (please correct me if i am wrong) 2. there is another option: SPONCERSHIP or being BUSSINESS PERSON ...well, i dont really understant how this works .... could someone please explain to us more about this?? 3. the phrase on the visa (no work as a doctor or dentist in training.) i THINK it means training posts only like SHO, VT since this phrase exists on all kind of visas 4. it doesnt make sence at all that after having full registration with the GDC we cant work at uk as a dentist ... then why there is ORE and why people are doing it?? for fun!!??? it doesnt make sence please correct me if i am wrong YAZAN > > > Hi, > > > > > > If you have got a Tier 1 DEPENDENT Visa with " no employment as doctor in training " which i am sure most of you have got then it means that you can not work in any training posts. > > Which includes- > > > > 1)SHO jobs-Even if you have got a offer for SHO ,you'll not be given temporary registration by GDC for the job. > > 2)VT -which is also a training post. > > > > So either get a PR before you apply for VT or re apply for tier 1 from UK coz i heard you wont get that endorsment here(not sure) or get a tier 2 which i do not know how it works for dependents. > > > > > > From: drirfansalim <irfansalim85@...> > > > > Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 8:01:14 PM > > Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements > > > > > > Well .. after reading all the depressing comments that have been posted .. All i would like to say are about 4 things > > > > 1) The policies of uk are continuously changing and shortages of dentists tends to occur. So they cant put a halt to vt , this problem is affecting all the people aka dentists and home office will be doing something about it. They do need manpower to overcome economic crisis which they already are in. IF they start kicking the registered dentists then where would they complete their shortage from? > > > > 2) I appreciate everyone giving their opinion, but if something closes their always is an alternative to it. I am sure there is some visa that we haven't looked into properly. We should look further into it. > > > > 3) Study never tends to go to waste. Whether in uk or australia or usa conditions are almost same. So giving ore cant be more of a waste then applying to other countries. > > > > 4) Lastly you always take 1 step at a time and give it your best. Most of you havent even completed ore including me and even before anything we are saying what about visa. Please get registered first. Then you can think with an open mind what to do next. > > > > So if anyone actually finds something positive to add to it regarding things that are possible like vinni did tau I am a sure all of us would love to hear of it. Its better to be positive about the fact that we can come and give ore and be registered ONCE we pass. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 dr pavan wrote about something about vt equivalence ..as compared to vt for dentists outside the eea ... i would like to know more about it ... secondly has this been the situation from before or did this change just now? .... as the thing about not being able to do vt. I have seen that under bussiness vistor you can do observational post as a dentist but you cant do treatment ... > > > From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> > Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements > > Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 1:00 AM > > >  > > > > I am wife of a british national so on a spouse visa and eventually gonna get bristish nationality > > > > > From: Neelam Raza <neelamraza@...> > > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 12:39:56 AM > Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements > >  > > > > hey aqsa  which visa category r u under? > > > > > From: Aqsa Fatima Burki <aqsaburki@...> > > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 12:24:05 AM > Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements > >  > > > > > > > > The fact that a dentist has gained the right to enter to the UK does not override the legal requirements that any dentist practising in the UK must hold appropriate registration with the General Dental Council (GDC). Likewise, registration with the GDC or eligibility to apply for registration does not itself convey a right to entry to the UK, or the right to work in the UK. > > > > Tier 1 > Highly skilled individuals to contribute to growth and productivity. Tier 1 has replaced the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). Any individual who would have previously applied through the HSMP route will now follow the Tier 1 process when their existing permission to stay ends. If you are eligible to enter the UK under Tier 1, you do not require a job offer before entering the UK. In Tier 1 applications, the level of academic qualifications needed must be equivalent to a UK Masters degree as confirmed by UK NARIC. If your visa states that you cannot work in any training posts, then you are not eligible to apply for House Officer, Senior House Officer, Dental Foundation 1 and 2, Vocational Trainee General Professional Trainee (GPT) or Specialist Registrar posts in the UK. On 19 July 2010 an interim limit on the number of visas issued to Tier 1 was introduced. There has also been an increase in the number of points required for a Tier 1 applicant. > The Tier 1 (general) visa is currently colsed to migrants who are overseas (February 2011). > > > > Vocational Trainee > These posts are being replaced by DF1 posts. If you have entered the UK on a Tier 1 Visa which states that you are not eligible for doctor or dentist training posts, you would not be able to apply for one of these posts. > If you have completed your undergraduate training in dentistry in one of the UK dental schools, and have full registration with the GDC, but you are not an EEA citizen, you would still be able to apply for VT or Foundation training. You should contact lin at COPDEND regarding visa sponsorship. > You will require to have full registration with the GDC. > SO i guess...... > Since the Tier visa is closed now, there is no point in giving ore for those who cant stay in uk for a year after ore for their vocational training.Please check your status through the authentic websites because you might end up wasting money and time. > > > Regards > > > Aqsa > > > From: Jiwan Gurung <jiwankumarg@...> > > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 8:50:39 PM > Subject: Re: VIsa Requirements > >  > > > > Hi you will probably require a visit visa and make sure your exam date is within the visa time period. >  > Thanks > > > > > > From: thomashwin <thomashwin@...> > > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 5:56:42 PM > Subject: VIsa Requirements > >  > > I am Ashwin.I would like to apply for ORE oart 1..MY bro is working in UK.Can anybody tell me How do i go about with the visa requiremennts.I am currently in India working in a hospital.Shoul i take the general visit visa or the students visit visa. > Thank you . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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