Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Hi all, I thinking that a governing (for want of a better word) needs to do several things (least I would expect it to): 1. Accredit training/experience within a recognised national/international framework. In Aus we have a federal vocational training body who take care of that. 2. Define and enforce relevent legislation upon and on behalf of it's members. 3. Encourage and direct member professional development - set standards and set em high the first time! 4. Promote the profession to industry - we need to be able to demonstrate why we are more desirable than DMTs (no flames please, I'm one) 5. maintain a register of accredited personnel. Probably heaps of others, but hell, I'm only a nurse.... Another issue would be who would be eligable to join/who would come under thier sphere of influence. For example, would an Aussie medic working in international waters on seismic vessels be required to comply if hired by a brit company? I guess for some people membership/compliance would be optional not mandatory, but with a good professional body this would only be a good thing. One thing that does spring to mind, I assume that most medics are currently not registered in any capacity, other than the Sparas and RGN's. I know that the client of the company I am currently working for 'demands' that all it's medics have some recognised national registration. I work under the assumption that what I do (or don't do) professionally offshore can and will damage my nursing registration. I don't see that as an impediment to practice, but it does lurk in the back of my mind and make me take that extra pause before action. Does anyone have any views on this? Rgds, Nic Aulmann _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Nic, I must admit, I find that having a mixture of medics in a team, Nurses, RMA / CMT, ODA, make some of the best groups to work under as they all contribute with various strengths, I have found my self calling other medics before I call the top side doctor for advice, It works well that way, and in some ways I learn allot more of the other guys than I do from the topside, as we tend to have a long debate about it afterwards. I'm sure you all know what I'm on about. if they insisted that we had to have a registration that's recognized outside the industry, I would be out of a job along with all the other ex military. lets say at the moment, that I have a back to back that has a form of state registration, but, he is not keen to carry out continued education or updating of skills. I see that he does not record most of the consultations in the patients log or in their notes, does not check equipment or maintain stock levels. Its just a case of him being a crap idle bloater. At the moment, there's nothing you could do to protect your self or the patient, if you was doing the work of two, or is there! Regards Benbow HMD Paramedic Day 01932 756150 Clinic Night 01932 756134 Out of Hours Radio 01932 756151 Call sign X-RAY Re: Governing Body? Hi all, I thinking that a governing (for want of a better word) needs to do several things (least I would expect it to): 1. Accredit training/experience within a recognised national/international framework. In Aus we have a federal vocational training body who take care of that. 2. Define and enforce relevent legislation upon and on behalf of it's members. 3. Encourage and direct member professional development - set standards and set em high the first time! 4. Promote the profession to industry - we need to be able to demonstrate why we are more desirable than DMTs (no flames please, I'm one) 5. maintain a register of accredited personnel. Probably heaps of others, but hell, I'm only a nurse.... Another issue would be who would be eligable to join/who would come under thier sphere of influence. For example, would an Aussie medic working in international waters on seismic vessels be required to comply if hired by a brit company? I guess for some people membership/compliance would be optional not mandatory, but with a good professional body this would only be a good thing. One thing that does spring to mind, I assume that most medics are currently not registered in any capacity, other than the Sparas and RGN's. I know that the client of the company I am currently working for 'demands' that all it's medics have some recognised national registration. I work under the assumption that what I do (or don't do) professionally offshore can and will damage my nursing registration. I don't see that as an impediment to practice, but it does lurk in the back of my mind and make me take that extra pause before action. Does anyone have any views on this? Rgds, Nic Aulmann _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... Post message: egroups Subscribe: -subscribeegroups Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 Hi Steve, Not sure I was clear enough. Us and them doesn't come into this issue at all. I was just curious about the registration issue - but since it's hanging, who are you/we accopuntable too? If you make an unfortunate slip (read out and out negligence) who is to stop you doing it again with another company in a nother location? I would suggest that some formal some formal credentialing from the proposed new offshore medic body (to use a better word) may be required. And, you can pin the credentials to continuing education (cme points if you so use). Registration does not a professional make, however, it's a nice way to encourage accountablility. Actually, I'll rephase that - in a perfect world, registration a professional recognises! But let's not talk about putting people out of a job (is it me or is this list overly sensitive - the industry is booming and you blokes are laughing all the way to the bank! ;-> (that was humourous...or at least intended to be)) Instead - let's register and accredit the blokes who are already there and have the quals, and quality assure those who follow! As to who can be in the club and who can't - I'm not sure I'm in a position to comment, nor do I really care at this point (lest I incur the wrath of non- nurses..). If this thread is innappropriate or off topic, pls let me know... Regards, Nic >From: " Benbow, Steve (HMD) " <benbows@...> >Reply- > " ' ' " >< > >Subject: RE: Governing Body? >Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:40:46 -0000 > >Nic, > >I must admit, I find that having a mixture of medics in a team, Nurses, RMA >/ CMT, ODA, make some of the best groups to work under as they all >contribute with various strengths, I have found my self calling other >medics >before I call the top side doctor for advice, It works well that way, and >in >some ways I learn allot more of the other guys than I do from the topside, >as we tend to have a long debate about it afterwards. I'm sure you all know >what I'm on about. > >if they insisted that we had to have a registration that's recognized >outside the industry, I would be out of a job along with all the other ex >military. > >lets say at the moment, that I have a back to back that has a form of state >registration, but, he is not keen to carry out continued education or >updating of skills. I see that he does not record most of the consultations >in the patients log or in their notes, does not check equipment or maintain >stock levels. Its just a case of him being a crap idle bloater. > >At the moment, there's nothing you could do to protect your self or the >patient, if you was doing the work of two, or is there! > > >Regards > > Benbow >HMD Paramedic >Day 01932 756150 Clinic >Night 01932 756134 Out of Hours >Radio 01932 756151 Call sign X-RAY > > > Re: Governing Body? > > >Hi all, > >I thinking that a governing (for want of a better word) needs to do several >things (least I would expect it to): > >1. Accredit training/experience within a recognised national/international >framework. In Aus we have a federal vocational training body who take care >of that. >2. Define and enforce relevent legislation upon and on behalf of it's >members. >3. Encourage and direct member professional development - set standards >and > >set em high the first time! >4. Promote the profession to industry - we need to be able to demonstrate >why we are more desirable than DMTs (no flames please, I'm one) >5. maintain a register of accredited personnel. > >Probably heaps of others, but hell, I'm only a nurse.... > >Another issue would be who would be eligable to join/who would come under >thier sphere of influence. For example, would an Aussie medic working in >international waters on seismic vessels be required to comply if hired by a >brit company? I guess for some people membership/compliance would be >optional not mandatory, but with a good professional body this would only >be > >a good thing. > >One thing that does spring to mind, I assume that most medics are currently >not registered in any capacity, other than the Sparas and RGN's. I know >that the client of the company I am currently working for 'demands' that >all > >it's medics have some recognised national registration. I work under the >assumption that what I do (or don't do) professionally offshore can and >will > >damage my nursing registration. I don't see that as an impediment to >practice, but it does lurk in the back of my mind and make me take that >extra pause before action. Does anyone have any views on this? > >Rgds, > >Nic Aulmann > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > >Member Information: > >List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... >Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > >Post message: egroups >Subscribe: -subscribeegroups >Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > >Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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