Re: what I'm learning about the SI Joint

[Guest guest]

Chris:

I've responded below:

>

> Doug,

>

> I'll confess that I started correcting it based on information I

> found on the Internet a few days after I got the diagnosis and

before

> going in to physical therapy. But I'm in physical therapy and I

have

> my PT's blessing for it.

I think that those exercises are pretty benign, so I'm sure you're

alright... just be careful!

> Are you familier with the " Sacroiliac Resources " page at

> www.kalindra.com ?

*** Snip

> If you've already seen these, I'd be interested in

> hearing your thoughts on his theories and whether you think it

would

> have applied to your case.

From a brief review of the articles, it looks like exactly what my

doc & PT were talking about a few years back when my pelvis was out

of whack.

> Bascially he takes the position that SI disfunction virtually

always

> consists of one or both SI joints sticking in a forward position

(in

> other words with t your pelvis on the effected side(s) shifted

> forward on top and backward on bottom).

That is EXACTLY what I had.

> BTW, DonTigny is also pro-prolo! But only for the tightening of

> specific ligaments and only with the dysfunction corrected.

That is great. That was my experience too... once the dysfunction

was corrected (the pelvis), prolotherapy was used to fix the damaged

ligaments and tendons in the knee.

> Now I'm hoping that I can identify and address the factors that are

> causing the joint to " go out " in the first place. Were you able to

> determine why your pelvis was being twisted?

I'll never know for sure, but our best guess was that it happened

while I was in business school. I was lugging around a laptop

computer all the time in a shoulder bag, on trains, NYC subways and

all over campus. This was back in the olden days (1997) when laptops

were alot heavier. To make matter worse, my son was 2 months old

when I started school, so I was dealing with a newborn and eventually

a toddler at the same time.

I started to get some sciatic problems during this time, which

eventually went away and I forgot all about it. It was only after I

got the knee pain and it was traced to my pelvis, that I put two &

two together. I think my pelvis probably " popped out " during that

time, which led to the sciatic problem.

I agree that SI problems are much more prevalent than people

realize. It is amazing how ignorant most docs seem to be about it.

My OS didn't even bother to check my hips; my first PT discovered the

leg-length discrepancy but assumed I was born that way. It wasn't

until I found the " good " doc & the " good " PT, that they discovered

the true, underlying cause of my problems.

HTH,

Doug

[Guest guest]

Other loose ligaments, was there anything else that you're aware of

that was causing the SI joint to go out on you? They have me doing a

bunch of stretches and exercises and I doubt if they'll do much for

loose ligaments (assuming that's what it is).

Yeah, I also finally found a " good doctor " --someone who actually

spent a few minutes doing a bit of diagnostic evaluation instead of

just giving me a " cookie-cutter " diagnosis and solution. I had to go

outside my HMO Group but it's worth it. I should've done it long time

ago.

Considering that low back pain is one of the most widespread medical

problems (second only to the common cold apparently!) I'd expect

there are a LOT of undiagnosed people out there.

Some of the major contributing factors to SI joint disfunction are

spending lots of time slouching over a desk and not getting enough

exercise. Who'd have thought that a desk job would be so hazardous!

> >

> > Doug,

> >

> > I'll confess that I started correcting it based on information I

> > found on the Internet a few days after I got the diagnosis and

> before

> > going in to physical therapy. But I'm in physical therapy and I

> have

> > my PT's blessing for it.

>

> I think that those exercises are pretty benign, so I'm sure you're

> alright... just be careful!

>

> > Are you familier with the " Sacroiliac Resources " page at

> > www.kalindra.com ?

> *** Snip

> > If you've already seen these, I'd be interested in

> > hearing your thoughts on his theories and whether you think it

> would

> > have applied to your case.

>

> From a brief review of the articles, it looks like exactly what my

> doc & PT were talking about a few years back when my pelvis was out

> of whack.

>

> > Bascially he takes the position that SI disfunction virtually

> always

> > consists of one or both SI joints sticking in a forward position

> (in

> > other words with t your pelvis on the effected side(s) shifted

> > forward on top and backward on bottom).

>

> That is EXACTLY what I had.

>

> > BTW, DonTigny is also pro-prolo! But only for the tightening of

> > specific ligaments and only with the dysfunction corrected.

>

> That is great. That was my experience too... once the dysfunction

> was corrected (the pelvis), prolotherapy was used to fix the

damaged

> ligaments and tendons in the knee.

>

> > Now I'm hoping that I can identify and address the factors that

are

> > causing the joint to " go out " in the first place. Were you able

to

> > determine why your pelvis was being twisted?

>

> I'll never know for sure, but our best guess was that it happened

> while I was in business school. I was lugging around a laptop

> computer all the time in a shoulder bag, on trains, NYC subways and

> all over campus. This was back in the olden days (1997) when

laptops

> were alot heavier. To make matter worse, my son was 2 months old

> when I started school, so I was dealing with a newborn and

eventually

> a toddler at the same time.

>

> I started to get some sciatic problems during this time, which

> eventually went away and I forgot all about it. It was only after

I

> got the knee pain and it was traced to my pelvis, that I put two &

> two together. I think my pelvis probably " popped out " during that

> time, which led to the sciatic problem.

>

> I agree that SI problems are much more prevalent than people

> realize. It is amazing how ignorant most docs seem to be about

it.

> My OS didn't even bother to check my hips; my first PT discovered

the

> leg-length discrepancy but assumed I was born that way. It wasn't

> until I found the " good " doc & the " good " PT, that they discovered

> the true, underlying cause of my problems.

>

> HTH,

> Doug

[Guest guest]

Chris:

I don't think it was loose ligaments at all in my pelvis. I think

the SI joint just " popped out " from carrying the heavy laptop bag (w/

heavy textbooks too) on my shoulder -- standing waiting for the

subway, etc.

The loose ligaments were in my knee. My knee was most likely damaged

from running with my left leg 1/2 " longer than my right -- which was

due to the pelvis problem. The first couple of docs I saw said my

cartilage was wearing away, but the " good " doc correctly diagnosed

the problem.

The only way to fix loose ligaments that I know of is prolotherapy.

I don't think stretching & exercises will help much, except perhaps

to unload some of the stresses on a particular area. As I understand

it, once you are older than, say, 18 or 20, ligaments & tendons don't

heal very well on their own. Old folks like us need some external

stimulation (prolo) to promote healing.

- Doug

>

> Other loose ligaments, was there anything else that you're aware of

> that was causing the SI joint to go out on you? They have me doing

a

> bunch of stretches and exercises and I doubt if they'll do much for

> loose ligaments (assuming that's what it is).

[Guest guest]

In chondromalacia treatment , " Ann " <ruby2zdy@f...>

wrote:

>>>>> And " One of the most common causes of problems at the SI joint

is an injury. The injury can come from a direct fall on the

buttocks...

Funny how that works. Around the same time my knee problems started I

spent a weekend trying to learn how to snowboard ( " trying " being the

operative word). I spent a lot of time falling on rock hard S.

Cal " snow. " I remember complaining that they must've just paved the

area over with concrete and painted it white. My sacrum area was sore

for at least 4-5 weeks.

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, one of the big problems with snowboarding is that both

your feet are strapped in together on one board with no release

mechanism. So you have a lot less control of your body position when

you fall. Very different from skiing or rollerblading where you can

just twist around and fall on your side.

> >>>>> And " One of the most common causes of problems at the SI

joint

> is an injury. The injury can come from a direct fall on the

> buttocks...

>

> Funny how that works. Around the same time my knee problems

started I

> spent a weekend trying to learn how to snowboard ( " trying " being

the

> operative word). I spent a lot of time falling on rock hard S.

> Cal " snow. " I remember complaining that they must've just paved

the

> area over with concrete and painted it white. My sacrum area was

sore

> for at least 4-5 weeks.

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