Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Ok a little dig has found the following information, which is current as of September 2003 From the ACCC...... Cosmetics and toiletries (TP Regulation - as amended): Unless covered by the Therapeutic Goods Act, all cosmetic and toiletry products must be labelled with a full list of their ingredients. And from OCBA....... Listing Ingredients The ingredients are to be listed in descending order calculated by either mass or volume. Alternatively, the ingredients may be listed in the following way: ingredients (except colour additives) in concentrations of 1% or more in descending order by volume or mass; followed by: a. ingredients (except for colour additives) in concentrations of less than 1% in any order; and finally b. colour additives in any order. So it does appear that the 0.5% loophole has been closed. I wish now that I had printed that out because it was information directly from the ACCC website. Not that it affects me because I don't use GSE, however with the following paragraph... " Incidental ingredients are not required to be included in the list of ingredients. Incidental ingredients have no technical or functional effect in the cosmetic or toiletry and are present at insignificant levels. Substances that have no technical or functional effect in the cosmetic or toiletry but are present because they are ingredients of another ingredient are also incidental ingredients. " I wonder would the same apply for a preservative such as Herbigerm? The ingredients are listed as " Herbigerm Preservative is a composition of Grapefruit Seed Extract, Rosemary Extract, Tea Tree Oil, olidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Polyparaben, Propylene Glycol " Theoretically you are buying a herbal preservative right? Therefore you are purchasing the GSE, RE and TTO as the preservatives, and the fact that they themselves are preserved with parabens would be incidental and so listing them on the label wouldn't be required? regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2003 Report Share Posted October 5, 2003 Hey , Thanks for all of the digging... Again, this is a topic which is not of immediate concern for me, but (hopefully) will be in my near future, when I get past making my soap for friends and family... Who can say 'no' to such a fun thing?!? LOL Seriously though, when I make more time to devote to this endeavor with the intention of selling my products, this will be a very real concern - So thanks to you for locating and sharing the info and also to those of you who raised the questions regarding contents and labeling in the first place! I've already bookmarked all of the relative sites for future research... The sharing of this kind of information is a huge part of what makes this sight so valuable and interesting! (As well as the never-ending ideas and great recipes...) Anyway, thanks to all! Chris :>) labelling requirements in Oz Ok a little dig has found the following information, which is current as of September 2003 From the ACCC...... Cosmetics and toiletries (TP Regulation - as amended): Unless covered by the Therapeutic Goods Act, all cosmetic and toiletry products must be labelled with a full list of their ingredients. And from OCBA....... Listing Ingredients The ingredients are to be listed in descending order calculated by either mass or volume. Alternatively, the ingredients may be listed in the following way: ingredients (except colour additives) in concentrations of 1% or more in descending order by volume or mass; followed by: a. ingredients (except for colour additives) in concentrations of less than 1% in any order; and finally b. colour additives in any order. So it does appear that the 0.5% loophole has been closed. I wish now that I had printed that out because it was information directly from the ACCC website. Not that it affects me because I don't use GSE, however with the following paragraph... " Incidental ingredients are not required to be included in the list of ingredients. Incidental ingredients have no technical or functional effect in the cosmetic or toiletry and are present at insignificant levels. Substances that have no technical or functional effect in the cosmetic or toiletry but are present because they are ingredients of another ingredient are also incidental ingredients. " I wonder would the same apply for a preservative such as Herbigerm? The ingredients are listed as " Herbigerm Preservative is a composition of Grapefruit Seed Extract, Rosemary Extract, Tea Tree Oil, olidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Polyparaben, Propylene Glycol " Theoretically you are buying a herbal preservative right? Therefore you are purchasing the GSE, RE and TTO as the preservatives, and the fact that they themselves are preserved with parabens would be incidental and so listing them on the label wouldn't be required? regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 I never heard of Herbigerm before, but I know what's in Germaben II: Propylene Glycol (and) olidinyl Urea (and) Methylparaben (and) Propylparaben. Loks like Herbigerm is pretty much GSE, Rosemary and Tea Tree, with Germaben II in it. I think that's funny! Traci > I wonder would the same apply for a preservative such as Herbigerm? > The ingredients are listed as " Herbigerm Preservative is a composition > of Grapefruit Seed Extract, Rosemary Extract, Tea Tree Oil, olidinyl > Urea, Methylparaben, Polyparaben, Propylene Glycol " > > Theoretically you are buying a herbal preservative right? Therefore you > are purchasing the GSE, RE and TTO as the preservatives, and the fact > that they themselves are preserved with parabens would be incidental > and so listing them on the label wouldn't be required? > > regards, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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